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Appreciating Hodgepodge: Camden & Pickwick LP Discission (EAPS S01E14)

Among the most maligned and hated LPs in Elvis's catalog (even at the time), these days it can be hard to understand why the Camden and Pickwick LPs exist, especially with the seemingly random tracklistings they offer! But for some fans, these were an amazing way to get a difference perspective on Elvis. In this episode, Jamie and John take a look at some of these LPs, talk a bit about their historic value to fans at the time, and why they're an important part of Elvis history, and how these LPs shaped the two of them as Elvis fans!
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  • @huckoo
    @huckoo Жыл бұрын

    I am 59 years old and had all of those Pickwick albums as a kid. I loved them. Looking back on them, the album art was so much better than what RCA came up with. Enjoyed the show.

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, John! That's awesome!

  • @dannad123
    @dannad123 Жыл бұрын

    Enjoying your posts after hearing you on the TCBcast with Justin! Great stuff, Thank you!

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    That's awesome! Thank you so much - and welcome!

  • @Melbournelost66
    @Melbournelost66 Жыл бұрын

    Keep up the great work guys. You do a great job. My brother bought all the Elvis Camden albums as he did all releases as they came out in Australia. I now possess the vinyl after my eldest brother passed away. As a kid in the 70s I loved these Albums with the turquoise coloured RCA label. It was part of the phases of Elvis. My vinyl collection means the world to me. I literally was raised on Rock Elvis style.

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! So glad you're enjoying it! And absolutely - "Raised On Rock, Elvis style" is a great way to put it! 😁

  • @helgeevensen856
    @helgeevensen856 Жыл бұрын

    one thing i have never forgot about the "I Got Lucky" album: back in 1975, by way of a cassette tape, me, my brother and a buddy of ours, we literally "played the heck" out of "A Whistling Tune", we all *loved* that song.... and the buddy guy, he wasn't even an Elvis fan, he normally listened to completely different artists... :)

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    That's really cool! Yeah, I love that album. 😁

  • @snowbird4212
    @snowbird4212 Жыл бұрын

    Great Channel. Love your knowledge and enthusiasm. Keep up good work, and good luck. Forever Elvis 🥰

  • @-dave3577
    @-dave3577 Жыл бұрын

    The 'Elvis Sings Flaming Star' cover shot isn't from Stay Away, Joe, but was taken at a promotional shoot for the NBC '68 TV special. One point of interest about the UK edition of the 'You'll Never Walk Alone' Camden album is that it concluded with the addition of Swing Down Sweet Chariot from 1960. In hindsight, it would have been the ideal opportunity to have included the 1968 re-recording, here. Excellent channel and content, guys. Keep 'em coming!

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi, David! Very interesting, especially considering what he's wearing - thank you for the clarification! And you're right - the 1968 re-recording would have been perfect!

  • @-dave3577

    @-dave3577

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EAPSocietyI'm thinking Parker may have used the photo shoot to kill 2 birds with one stone, so to speak. BUT, as the film had already been released [in March '68] prior to the NBC photo shoot, that doesn't make much sense. There are also shots of Elvis wearing the cool western red shirt at the photo shoot [FTD used one for the cover of the Too Much Monkey Business CD], again, very similar to what he wore in scenes in Stay Away, Joe. Weird.

  • @BrandNewRobot
    @BrandNewRobot Жыл бұрын

    Way back in the day a friend of mine picked up "I Got Lucky" as an 8 track tape. That's right - 8 track - talk about the Fred Flinstone era. It was in like a bargain bin at Target or something. He bought it just as a lark. It turned out to be one of our favorite 8 tracks. We'd often sing along to it as we drove around town.

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    8-track - I love that! I have a few Elvis albums on 8-track from back in the day (my parents' first van we'd go to Memphis in had an 8-track and cassette player). That's awesome - and "I Got Lucky" was definitely a favorite as a kid!

  • @davidwood9691
    @davidwood9691 Жыл бұрын

    Just came across your channel today, really enjoying it thank you. I love these budget albums with Flaming Star being my very first Elvis album from way back when, and I think your right they were a great introduction to all aspects of Elvis's music fir young fans.

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    That's fantastic, David - welcome!

  • @haraldtrittner4396
    @haraldtrittner4396 Жыл бұрын

    A very funny Show friends, thanx a lot😄 But i missed a review of the most selling Camden Album ever: "Elvis' Christmas Album" CAL 2428 (Mono) released in Nov. 1970 In *1986* (!) the Vinyl Album was for the last time Re-released as a RCA Special Product CAL 2428 (Stereo)🌲

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey, Harald! Yeah, that one we skipped because the Christmas songs are almost the same as what's on the 1957 Christmas album (with some changes, of course, but not as many). It's definitely a great album, though!

  • @adrianchapman6871
    @adrianchapman6871 Жыл бұрын

    I remember going to Woolworths to buy them on tape and vinyl I love all my elvis vinyl

  • @nigelwilson1957
    @nigelwilson1957 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Jamie & john love album Camden & Pickwick LP love play album sound so cool Great Channel. Love guys keep cool video on elvis

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much, Nigel! 😁

  • @nigelwilson1957

    @nigelwilson1957

    Жыл бұрын

    you welcome

  • @marcoesquandolez4737
    @marcoesquandolez4737 Жыл бұрын

    The records were great back in the day. I’ve since made a few playlist and distilled down the best songs into cohesive albums. Placing Guitar Man, Tomorrow Is A Long, and Big Bossman into the Almost In Love track list (I removed the first 2 tracks from AIL)

  • @helgeevensen856
    @helgeevensen856 Жыл бұрын

    fun episode :) ... but seriously, i grew up on these albums and i appreciated them very much then, and still do.... and i have always thought there is something appropriate with the selections (compilations) on them, especially Almost in Love, Let's Be Friends, You'll Never Walk Alone and Elvis sings Flaming Star... so many good songs, and so many good memories from these albums (and some nostalgia), and the songs fit together, in my opinion... these are in fact among my favorite Elvis album compilations, believe it or not :) .... i think they have received a lot of undeserved flak or "bad press".... but many of them sold well... i suspect many fans and non-fans have been judging these Camden/Pickwick albums on the basis of the couple of the weakest ones among them or maybe just because they are "budget" albums... who knows... (or maybe it's all "Old Mac Donald's" fault :) ... but i must admit you had some very funny (though kindhearted) comments on some of the song-combinations, and the comment: "and then you're gonna hear Old Mac Donald whether you like it or not", that was so hilarious, i cracked up for a couple of minutes there... 😂

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    Definitely - and I think part of it is that many fans (ourselves included, for a long while) didn't understand what the Camden label was doing at first (as far as unreleased recordings). Once you know about that, it changes the picture considerably. And thank you! So glad you enjoyed it; we do poke some fun, but we love all of these albums, too (grew up on them as well!)

  • @SharingElvis1935
    @SharingElvis19356 ай бұрын

    Elvis sings hits from his movies was a present from my Auntie aged 7, I Remember thinking wow this guy looks different (obviously in a good way) and that Album was played to death 😄 And now 50yrs on with a collection that’s outgrowing the house, I still have a soft spot for all of those albums but especially hits from his movies My mum n dad were teenagers when ELVIS hit here in the uk… so anything that wasn’t ELVIS from the nineteen fifties in there opinion wasn’t any good, but obviously that didn’t put me off Great video guys, really enjoying the content 👌

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    6 ай бұрын

    Hi, Paul! That's a great present - thank you for sharing that story! And I'm glad the non-50's music didn't put you off, either! And so glad you're enjoying the content, Paul! That's awesome!

  • @milesforman
    @milesforman Жыл бұрын

    We need a mini box set of these Camdens ;-)

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    Definitely! At one time, they did release the Camdens for $5 each in stores, but that was probably 10 years ago now.

  • @ELVISDINNERSHOW
    @ELVISDINNERSHOW Жыл бұрын

    Hey guys! The almost in love cover you were showing is from a 1975 reissue, and like you said there are multiple pressings of it which are slightly different, i have 4 variations, a USA Copy which has that photo that's on it full cover without the round border, then the version you guys have, i have a japanese one which has a back cover that's similar to ''Let's Be Friends'' having a blue border and a different photo from the 68 comeback special, then i have the UK version which actually used a '68 promo photo which was specifically requested by Peter Addidge (i don't know if i'm spelling his name right) because he wanted to have that as a cover photo for it in the U.K. The i got lucky LP also has one more variation which i believe was europe only which has a pink layout.

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    Very cool! Thanks so much for sharing - that's a lot of great info! 😁

  • @tallman4040
    @tallman40402 ай бұрын

    I think one of the common themes is that most everything that was put out on these records was that they were on singles or Extended plays, but basically unreleased in Album form. Or some of those songs were out of print.

  • @tallman4040
    @tallman40402 ай бұрын

    Note: "mama" was sung in the movie by the Amigos, not Elvis. and the song was not on the soundtrack. So when the Elvis sung version came out on Camden, it was an unreleased song at the time.

  • @harrisonchurch5982
    @harrisonchurch5982 Жыл бұрын

    Your channel name "eap society" when I was a kid back in 1980's I would make a elvis mix tape and instead of saying rca records, I make up my own label "eap records" I would included the year with my label name and still do it to this day when I make a mix cd or now a thumb drive or mp3 disc so your channel name reminded me of that, thanks

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh, that's awesome! And you're very welcome: I love names with double meanings, since our EAP means Elvis Archival Preservation, but obviously are also Elvis's initials. 😁

  • @marcoesquandolez4737
    @marcoesquandolez4737 Жыл бұрын

    The 2nd half of this video when you get to Burning Love I was laughing out loud! Yes! We need to get the details of the “Thinking behind these albums” ….Was there thinking? :-)

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    We may never know exactly what they were thinking, but the video two weeks from now will be a fun "thought experiment" on that idea!

  • @lestresorsdelvis8431
    @lestresorsdelvis8431 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video! 👍🙋‍♂️🇫🇷

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!

  • @hughmckenna4625
    @hughmckenna4625 Жыл бұрын

    Great chat, fellas. The agreement for these albums was made between Tom Parker and RCA vice president, Harry Jenkins. Jenkins selected the material and Tom Parker signed off on it. This was part of a 1969 agreement to pay Elvis $300,000 which was split 50/50 between him and Tom Parker's All-Star Shows. Money for nothing at the expense of creative worth and artistic value. And probably at the expense of some sales for Elvis's regular albums. Given how many albums were being released in a short period of time, i.e., 12 LPs and 2 box sets in 1970 and 1971 alone.

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry I missed seeing this, Hugh - great information and really good points, too - thanks for sharing them with us!

  • @kensmith8546
    @kensmith8546 Жыл бұрын

    Sorry Guys that I have only just commented on this show, I missed it when first uploaded. The Camden releases have a special place in my heart - like a lot of other fans from the UK and of the same age. I was 10 when I bought the Separate Ways LP in 1973, soon followed by the rest, C'mon Everybody ( with the UK cover, being a photo from his wedding) I Got Lucky, Almost in Love ( again different album cover ) etc and of course the fabulous Camden Christmas album with the photo from Speedway on the cover. ( Yes - why Mama like the Roses?? even as a 11 year old I questioned that), Like Jamie but a good many years earlier I had the same feeling about these releases - played them to death and never thought about or cared when the tracks were recorded or how they fitted together on the albums . I just loved Elvis voice and they were all new songs to me. Before the Camden albums all I had were some 45s past down from my parents and the 68 special and MSG LPs both presents I had received from family members and was disappointed that the tracks were not the hit record versions I had heard on the radio. So for me the Camden LPs were priceless but I really enjoyed this show and the fun and jokes made about them 😀

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    It's all good, Ken! Thank you, and thanks for sharing your experiences with these albums, too! :)

  • @user-dc1dw2np1w
    @user-dc1dw2np1w Жыл бұрын

    Hey hey friends, Excellent video, love the Camden LPs , just like you, i grew up on those when i started to collect some on cassettes like Flaming star, Lets be friends, Almost in love...great memories

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    Definitely - and next week will be a fun time, too - putting ourselves in Camden's shoes!

  • @harrisonchurch5982
    @harrisonchurch5982 Жыл бұрын

    I don't know if you know this or not but the reason the rca Camden and pickwick Camden are so similar is that in 1975 rca sold the Camden series to pickwick some covers got changed and some stayed basically the same and with about two or three new pickwick releases, thanks

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    Interesting! Thanks for sharing, Harrison!

  • @SuperAtlantis1
    @SuperAtlantis1 Жыл бұрын

    My first album was Separate Ways. My favorite Camdens were I Got Lucky and Cmon Everybody. They were inexpensive for a teen.

  • @JeffCelentano
    @JeffCelentano Жыл бұрын

    Great podcast, fellas! Two of my friends had a short-lived podcast called "A Little More Conversation" that only lasted a handful of episodes so it's nice to have a new outlet to geek out on Elvis minutiae. Question, is there an audio-only version syndicated out there anywhere in the pod-verse? (Not that your background set isn't awesome...) Thanks again and keep up the great work. Well done, Gents!

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi, Jeff! Thank you so much! At the moment there isn't an audio-only version, just because so many episodes rely on visuals - but we may look at that in the future, you never know!

  • @antoniod
    @antoniod Жыл бұрын

    Your comment about Elvis not being one thing reminds me of a friend who lamented that after Elvis "rediscovered who he was" making the '68 special, the Colonel put him "back in the box". He was probably assuming(like many others)that "Vegas Jumpsuit Elvis" was entirely Parker's creation, accepted under duress by Elvis. But had Elvis wanted to keep being Steve Binder's Elvis? Was Jumpsuit Elvis any less "who he was" than Binder Elvis?

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly, Steve - Elvis was many things; it's what made him such a multi-faceted artist and creator. 😁

  • @helgeevensen856
    @helgeevensen856 Жыл бұрын

    wasn't "Elvis sings Flaming Star" first released by Singer Co. in 1968 or early 1969? (as a result of the '68 Special) ... i think it was 1968... that would be *before* Elvis first Vegas engagement... but i'm not sure about the album cover in the first pressing or release by Singer.... but the album cover as it is fits also perfectly with the theme song "Flaming Star" and that movie...

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it was - we got ourselves turned around at first and then I think we corrected ourselves later (we generally "shoot from the hip" on this to maintain the conversation aspect, so that happens from time to time 😁)

  • @roustabout583
    @roustabout583 Жыл бұрын

    Love Flaming Star, I Got Lucky,C’mon Everybody Camden releases!!!

  • @tallman4040
    @tallman40402 ай бұрын

    At one time I owned all of them. The camden ones came out first. They had a blue label. They were in the budget bin back in the day. $1.99 each if I remember correctly. Double dynamite....$2.99 or $3.99.

  • @harrisonchurch5982
    @harrisonchurch5982 Жыл бұрын

    Also did you know that tigar man replaced blue christmas when they reaired the 68 special in the summertime don't know the actual date maybe summer of 69 not sure, thanks

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep - that one we did know! Still good info to share though, we appreciate it! 😁

  • @elvis1977nico
    @elvis1977nico Жыл бұрын

    1 171 / 5 000 Résultats de traduction Hello, I find your channel very interesting. But you made me laugh with your old covers. I don't know what was the purpose of showing us this, there are so many copies in circulation with covers in perfect condition. For a company that cares about everything that represents Elvis, we would have been entitled to something more decent. But I guess it was to attract attention and on my side it worked. I found that all the same very funny coming from young people like you. I've been an Elvis fan since I was 6 and now I'm 62. Unlike some people I like Camden albums. For me it represented variety, instead of a classic album. I have subscribed to Siriusxm radio for over 15 years precisely because of the variety. The mix of the songs are a bit like the Camden albums, everything is mixed. That's what attracts me to this radio, it's a bit of a surprise with each song, not knowing exactly which ones will follow. I encourage you to continue your excellent work, I like to see and hear different points of view on Elvis. Thanks again and long life to your channel.

  • @johnheath1868

    @johnheath1868

    Жыл бұрын

    You can certainly tell that those are Jamie’s personal, well loved copies of the Camden albums and not someone’s precious collectors items, huh!?!

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi, Martin! Yep, there are definitely better condition copies out there - but there's also personal value (at least I think so) in the ones we loved as kids, before we wanted everything in mint condition, and just loved it purely because we loved it. We're certainly collectors, but also fans in a wider sense, so pieces just for memories and sentimental value can also be good to keep - as you can see these old copies are definitely just sentimental value items at this point, lol. And that also got us talking about merits to the Camden releases that we didn't even know was the case (then-unreleased or rare songs, etc), and we knew we had to talk about it on the channel. I can promise you it wasn't an attention thing, just for fun and memories alongside information people may not have known and a fresh appreciation. If we made you laugh, that's cool, too!😁 But that's a great point about them being like radio, I love that! And thank you so much for the well-wishes - John and I really appreciate it! We have a lot of wacky fun in store, all along the ride of this mission, and hope you'll come back and enjoy it all with us! 😁

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnheath1868 You know what's funny - I forgot to mention that in the video that those records were one of the things that got me learning to walk as a toddler; my folks said I literally started walking so I could use the record player for those records, lol

  • @robcollett3921
    @robcollett3921 Жыл бұрын

    Great job, but you overlooked a couple of Pickwick only releases, Frankie & Johnny from 1976 and Mahalo from Elvis from 1978.

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a very good point! And I love Mahalo From Elvis. This definitely won't be our last dive into these releases, so we'll definitely touch on those in a future video!

  • @Rock4UNow

    @Rock4UNow

    Жыл бұрын

    The Pickwick Frankie & Johnny had some songs missing from the original soundtrack.

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Rock4UNow It did? Which songs were missing?

  • @Rock4UNow

    @Rock4UNow

    Жыл бұрын

    @@EAPSociety Everybody Come Abord & Chesa

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Rock4UNow Those were on the original album, but not the Pickwick, you mean? "Look Out, Broadway" is also missing from the Pickwick version, it seems.

  • @harrisonchurch5982
    @harrisonchurch5982 Жыл бұрын

    Answer to question what is cal and cas, well in the prefix number cal is mono and cas is stereo and according to what I've found is pickwick's marked as cas stereo is in fact monaural, also the "I got lucky" rca Camden record with pickwick record is not the correct record should have rca Camden blue label dynaflex with rca in white letters which a flexible vinyl rather than rigid vinyl which is stiffer also pickwicks did not come with dynaflex so somebody out in the world has your rca record in their pickwick cover while you have their pickwick record in your rca cover maybe and that a big maybe, thanks

  • @EAPSociety

    @EAPSociety

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh, interesting! Thanks so much for sharing that info!

  • @roberthobson9085
    @roberthobson9085 Жыл бұрын

    i nail in the coffin is elvis sings for children to top of the burn pile along with camden n picwick. elvis took the 5 th on this whole lot