Apple’s Craig Federighi Explains New iPhone Security Features | WSJ
Apple is finally bringing end-to-end encryption to most of iCloud, including backups, photos and more. In an exclusive interview, Apple software chief Craig Federighi sat down with WSJ’s Joanna Stern to explain how Advanced Data Protection works, and what it means for law enforcement.
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Great work explaining this for most people to understand without skipping the important points that us security enthusiasts want to know.
You can criticise Apple for taking too long on this - it should have been standard long ago. But well done to them for taking this important step in allowing users to have control of their own data!
@alexdubois6585
Жыл бұрын
Yes finally. Particularly the Yubico part. Thank you Apple.
@spacecadet2172
Жыл бұрын
Which part are you referring to? Physical keys they are a bit late, but everywhere else they are way ahead of the rest of the industry. iMessage has been end to end encrypted since its debut in 2011 over a decade ago. That was unheard of back then.
@lambertois11
Жыл бұрын
The horror of the Foxconn China has done extensive damage to Apple image. Craig Federighi, Tim Cook and the other Apple executives have lost whatever credibility they had. The lack of judgment of Tim Cook has also done extensive damage to Apple image. Why Tim Cook has decided year after year to all the ’’eggs in the same basket’’. Tim Cook could have decided years ago to diversify the production of Apple products in several countries; this is common sense, basic risk management! What are the secret agenda of Tim Cook, behind his persistence to keep all the Apple production in China? I have an iPhone and an iPad. They are the last products I will ever buy from Apple!!!
@SaintFederalo
Жыл бұрын
Or you can criticize them for stealing information still
@deforged
Жыл бұрын
@@spacecadet2172 what do you mean which part. every new part is listed in the bleeping video. maybe try watching it, before kneejerk post react with useless comments like this one.
“We do not want to see your photos” I gaged 😂😂😂
@martinomg
Жыл бұрын
He didn't deny they see our photos 😅
I don't say this often but credit to Apple.
@Aashishkebab
Жыл бұрын
Credit for doing something that has existed for a while in other places?
@BenWilson24
Жыл бұрын
They literally made efforts to block apps on the app store that did this
Man, Craig is so good at talking to people.
"Do you know how the Chinese government feels about it?" "They did not tell me 🤡"
@choisimon3705
Жыл бұрын
We already know the answers, right?
@gfr381
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@j340_official
Жыл бұрын
They told Tim Cook who then told him…
@BimsaraHerath
Жыл бұрын
"They have not told me😃😃😃🤪"
@Alex-hv3ir
Жыл бұрын
@@choisimon3705 I guess so haha
Great interview Joanna, As always! Looking forward to better security options too.
@azizaj87
Жыл бұрын
What’s great about that!! they keep cutting him! 1:01 It looks like investigation
Great interview! Every question that popped up in my mind as I watched this was answered in the next question.
Craig Federighi with a slight smile on China "they have not told me" LOL
@CameronKinvig
Жыл бұрын
Only a slight smile
@davidc2072
Жыл бұрын
CCP will be the Recovery Contact for all Chinese citizens.
Excellent video and explanation. Very helpful. Thank you.
4:12 the way Craig looked away once Joanna mentioned investigations really cracked me up😂
This is one thing I definitely give Apple big props for!
Very informative interview, well done!
When people like Marques Brownlee or iJustine interview Craig, they ask advertising questions. Meanwhile WSJ asks more technically advanced questions.
@AmpdLSU
Жыл бұрын
I agree. These interviews are closer to the definition of journalism. It's even in the name lol
Thanks for asking about China. I love how Craig answered the question😂. Unfortunately the iPhone is too expensive for many users in China but I hope this feature can make it onto older iPhones which will be more affordable to Chinese users.
@user-ld4jc9je3o
Жыл бұрын
Apple has more than 50% market share in China now
@seachemistry
Жыл бұрын
It will be on every single iPhone you can update
@buttermashpotatoes4617
Жыл бұрын
The question about China seemed random since it's the US government most of us care about.
@noahpoobbailey
Жыл бұрын
@@buttermashpotatoes4617 I think with the current Apple China debacle it was relevant. Also, not everyone lives in the US.
@krazymeanie
Жыл бұрын
@@buttermashpotatoes4617 The US government is what you care about. They have alot of customers outside the US and alot more to be clear. The US isn't Apple's main market
That dodge when she asked about keeping data from the government “if need be” was magnificent. Go Craig. You show them!
wonderful reporting
I love this please keep on protecting the individuals and helping your customers protect themselves. Nobody should be able to get into someone’s personal phone. Not a hacker and not a police officer for sure not the government. Privacy is a liberty that’s held dear by Americans and the war for our privacy is threatened every day.
Acc really good interview. Answered all common questions! ❤
Anyone else wondering how they had multiple angles of Craig despite this interview taking place over video call? Did they also have a film team on site? Did they just request Craig setup multiple cameras? Are these just cleverly cropped angles from the one singular webcam?? So many questions WSJ
@joannastern4463
Жыл бұрын
I'm happy to answer that! Apple shot two camera angles on their end with their crew and we shot two camera angles on our end with our crew. Then... editing! Only way to make a remote interview look good.
@KylePapili
Жыл бұрын
@@joannastern4463 wow, thanks for the response! I understand this interview was specifically tailored to the advanced security features but did you have a chance to ask about any other topics? (China airdrop censorship, Apple car rumors, xOS trademarks, AR headset announcement, etc)?
@jbnelson
Жыл бұрын
@@KylePapili they’ve repeatedly dodged any AR/VR headset or car rumors. Would be wasted breath. AirDrop changes would’ve been nice, however.
@s0kulite
Жыл бұрын
@@joannastern4463wow, it’s not often that you see reporters comment below their stories. I just wanted to say, great work.
@vamshik
Жыл бұрын
All scripted bro, WSJ and Apple seem to have a good understanding.
Great interview thank you
Great, thanks for this.
Great questions Joanna!
With the expanded end-to-end encryption, it’d be great to be able to have macs backup via timemachine directly to iCloud for convenience
@aaron2024_1
Жыл бұрын
How much icloud storage do you have lol. Just use backblaze
@AmpdLSU
Жыл бұрын
@@aaron2024_1 Doesn't backblaze cost the same per TB at entry level? Using a separate service from a different company would take away from the convenience aspect that @tph5ht is referring to. Apple will likely implement this soon. More services>more profit
I love this. Thank you!
Great piece
Great interview
she really grilled them in the last interview, good on her.
Craig is my favorite apple guy
😅lol one of the best tech journalists with humour and good personality
Very well explained about apple's new security feature -Advanced data protection. Great feature and great work done by apple.
Craig’s cheesy grin when saying the Chinese government haven’t told him how they feel on their encryption 😂
5:15 😂 it should be we dont care what they think we are apple still the smile was 👌😂
Craig has the most expressive eyebrows - and he's a pretty cool guy too.
Good job Miss Joanna & WSJ Team 👍🏽
Good segment Joana
Solid interview. Thank you for the plain-speak verbiage for those of us still a little new to the topic. I feel as if you have our back. Your questions have a pitch speed somewhere between softball and hardball, so direct but not rude. Also thanks for not wearing those dorky looking white pods while respectfully speaking with a fellow human being.
Great news! I am pumped!
I think the yubikey integration is a very good and thoughtful idea.
I wish Craig was Apple's CEO.
@0xmmn
Жыл бұрын
I think he is the next one.
@___Truth___
Жыл бұрын
@@0xmmndefinitely would be a better option than Tim Cook
@gokuaravind
Жыл бұрын
Why do you say that?
@gokuaravind
Жыл бұрын
Because he speaks well? Tim cook is exactly what Apple needs. It's a 2.3 Trillion dollar company from a 153 billion dollar company in 2011 when Tim cook became CEO.
@0xmmn
Жыл бұрын
@@gokuaravind It doesn't make him good for the company; it just makes him good for investors. From misleading marketing statements to claiming that "what happens on an iPhone stays on an iPhone". There is also the illusion of privacy that they market for. In addition to the notorious refusal to include charge cables on the box (classic make a problem, then sell its solution), and the stickiness for the lighting cable rather than USB-C despite marketing that they care about the environment. IG if the company still runed by steve all of this won't happen, not saying steve was good person just saying he would care more about apple customers than pleasing aka "sucking b*lls" of apple's investors
Love it!!
How is it work between the device under the same account? Are they sharing the same private key on the device? What happen if one device is not update to the latest software version which has this feature? How is new iPhone setup work? Is the old device sharing the private key to the new iPhone when doing the quick setup?
The content is so great. Looking forward to more videos.
Is there an uncut version where we hear all his answers?
@whitemailprivilege2830
Жыл бұрын
You mean the uncircumcised version?
@denissssss8579
Жыл бұрын
No
Good to know!
Quality content
How do you enable yubikey for AID?
Once again another common Joanna Stern W
Already moved to GrapheneOS and using Cryptomator for cloud backups.
"They have not told me" is the best politically correct answer. 💯
I'm excited to see this as the norm.
Hope itll come in all parts of Asia, The advanced data protection!
Do we know how Apple will ensure “law enforcement”? Will they share the keys if required? How do they sync keys across devices?
Does anyone else love Joanna’s Craig interviews or is it just me?
@slob5041
11 ай бұрын
She’s kinda harsh
fantastic!! thank you apple!!!!!
So how do you turn this on?
"We do not want to see your photo" yes yes yes ...OMG...yes yes... what happened to me.😆
Very advanced
finally yubikey can be used for apple id. it's so much more convenient than default 2fac from apple
If I have already setup a Physical Security Key for my Apple ID, do I still need to generate the an account recovery code for Apple iCloud Advance Data Protection ? In other words, what the difference between Physical Security Key vs. Account Recovery Code (in iCloud)? Can I not use the same Physical Security Key to cover both my Apple ID and iCloud Advance Data Protection? It would be much easier to a keep a Physical Security Key than a printed Account Recovery Code.
@TheLifeOnHigh
8 ай бұрын
This is an excellent comment and question. Disappointed no one has attempted to answer 🤔
I love Apple's approach to privacy. It's a human right! And they respect it! aka why I use an iPhone
@zt9233
Жыл бұрын
Lol. Don’t be too trusting. This is all closed source. We are just taking their word for it.
@andr3970
6 ай бұрын
I use iPhone too but in the end is their words and we don’t really have proof if what Apple is saying is really the truth.
@fvs666
6 ай бұрын
@@zt9233bro everything can be hacked, but companies still must do everything to secure us
Big W for Apple here.
A reddit user found someone else’s files in his iCloud library which included bank credentials and other logins, some people said it also happened to them ;so hopefully this update will solve it
Joanna: "So you'll never see that photo, Craig?" Craig: "We don't want to see your photo." Way to dance around that question. 😎
@MatejaMaric
Жыл бұрын
Are you implying that all of this is a giant scam and that none of it is actually encrypted? 🤦♂️
@Theoryofcatsndogs
Жыл бұрын
NSA: hole my beer
@MichaelBTech
Жыл бұрын
@@MatejaMaric lol no
Is it just me or anyone else wondering Kevin's EarPods working way seamlessly than those usually working a video call setting.??
@martinmaertin
Жыл бұрын
Haha, it's all staged - just look at the multiple camera angles of him during the video. The pods are very likely not used or maybe only to hear the journalist. Makes the whole interview thing feel even more like a marketing stunt to me.
@Mohamedahmed-jz7xd
Жыл бұрын
Seems like a part of a makeup while in reality he's using a professional mic for this interview.
@spacecadet2172
Жыл бұрын
Who is Kevin?
@spacecadet2172
Жыл бұрын
@@martinmaertinthey use the AirPods to hear what the other person is saying in real time. The video feed they chat via is not shown in the finished product. That is filmed locally on cameras and then edited together after the fact.
@AmpdLSU
Жыл бұрын
@@martinmaertin What @Space Cadet said. 100% AirPod's microphone quality is not that good. But there's no reason to believe he's not listening to the call with them. If you owned a company that produced goods and services, regardless of the status of it, would you really not try and get some extra marketing in for other products you may not even be discussing? Joanna, the interviewer, actually replied in the comments section to someone pointing out all the cuts and questioning the validity of the journalism. She basically said of course they set up two cameras and a mic at each party's location to make for a quality video, rather than posting a one sided screen recording of a video call. It doesn't necessarily mean all the questions are known beforehand and it's purely actors going over a script. I'm still open to the thought that they did discuss questions that were off grounds and would neither result in Apple getting their message, which yes is still marketing, spread as much as possible, and WSJ not getting a high profile interview at all. Anything a company publicizes is inherently a form of marketing, as long as the public is their target market.
Can't wait to flip that switch. Very excited
WSJ: Could you provide a link to that table (if publicly accessible) that identifies which services are or are not E2E encrypted?
@MatejaMaric
Жыл бұрын
It’s on Apple’s support site, just a quick Google search away :)
@FlorianWendelborn
Жыл бұрын
Basically after this feature rolls out everything besides Calendar, Mail, and Contacts is fully e2e-encrypted (those are exempt because they need to interoperable with other services) ASSUMING YOU OPT-IN OF COURSE
@lascurettes
Жыл бұрын
@@MatejaMaric thanks, you’re not helpful or cute. I can do that. I will do that. But for journalistic integrity and citing sources, why hasn’t the WSJ done that work?
@PMX
Жыл бұрын
@@lascurettes The iPhone shows which services are protected (and has the link to the page with more details), but as mentioned in the video, its all except mail, contacts and calendar
How about an end-to-end encrypted calculator app for iPad.
ADVANCED DATA PROTECTION :O
Ok I’m what type of situation would we need to “recover”our data? If I get a new phone I just log in with my Apple ID and PW right????? This end to end encryption does not affect iCloud backups correct!!?? Where in the world do you get a key if you don’t want to use a contact??!
Huge thanks to Apple for this BOLD move! ❤️
That’s good news
Finally. Thanks apple.
A bit simplified, but informative. And I think because it’s some as prestigious at Joanna, she gets away with some of the questions. Or maybe it’s that Craig isn’t as guarded/critical.
what about RCS ?
FINALLY!
Why didn't you ask about apples lack of adopting RCS(end to end encryption) the successor to SMS? We all send texts to non iPhones from time to time.
Makes me want to get an iPhone.
Take a shot every time he says data protection
he said "we do not want to see your photo" 2:20 so it means they can see it :D
2:22 rekt lol 😂😂
love apple
Joanna Stern = Apple's spokesperson.
This isn’t ‘end to end’ encryption, it is ‘zero knowledge encryption’. ‘End to end’ encryption already existed on iMessage, but the backups in iCloud were not encrypted and could be read by Apple and security services.
THANK YOU APPLE ❤
its wow!
Why is this an opt-in feature? And not a new standard instead?
its protection…of data…. that’s advanced , hope things are cleared👍
I love that Craig does not want to see my photo, but the government still does
@Techinvestor567
Жыл бұрын
The government wants to see it if you are a threat to the other members of the society you have chosen to belong to :)
What about FSB or KGB data protection?
How can this security contact help to decrypt/retrieve the data? If the password is lost the password is lost? Or should the password be told to this person?
@cat-.-
Жыл бұрын
Apple holds a partial key that is useless on it own. Your contact holds another partial key thats useless on its own. Combined, these keys can decrypt your photo.
With advanced data protection enabled, you are disallowed from adding legacy devices that don’t support the latest version of iOS/macOS, until you turn it off. It actually completely blocks iCloud signin on windows
@luluthecat1570
Жыл бұрын
Doesnt it just send the "An unrecognized device may have been added to your account" message?
@JPS13Laptop
Жыл бұрын
@@luluthecat1570 Idk about it completely blocking the sign-in, but you certainly wouldn't be able to access the protected data and no I don't think you would get the unrecognised device error in that case.
@carloscervantes836
Жыл бұрын
Good.
So is CSAM still a thing happening because I’m still on iOS 13
@jz29072004
Жыл бұрын
No they announced that they will not implement CSAM
Apple's security is the best in industry
The China answer killed my 😂
Looks advanced.
@quentinlemaitre2998
Жыл бұрын
It is. But it's great!
why is it nesceary for product placement in this video
5:15 They have not told me😁
Thank you Apple.
5:23 the look of his face and the tone of his voice isn’t selling me on this Advanced Protection