From my own personal experience and research, I disagree that aphothenia (particularly pareidolia) is a bad thing all together. As a whole, this way of thinking can be healthy and lead to wholistic understanding so long as discernment, common sense and context is properly used. Correlative intelligence is a very important skill/state of consciousness, not so much valued in the modern world as it was to ancient cultures and metaphysical practices. Socrates (Plato) said “all is re-membering” for a reason. The universe is one large mind re-cognizing itself (by recognizing its own correlative and analogous patterns-symbols in order to ascertain a mystical intuition-gnosis-state of atonement (at-one-ment). Is it a coincidence that the word ‘pattern’ is etymologically connected to ‘paternal’ and so in this way, at least poetically, by knowing the patterns (manifest things) we come to know the Father-Pater (the unmanifest). Alas, what is the point of everything but to finally understand the mystery that is the “no-thing”? Pattern recognition is the ultimate human skill!

@888_vav

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Reading that gave me some hope that there are others with the truth. Not only do I know apophenia isn't possible, I would make a strong argument that luck, randomness, karma and coincidences all are an illusion of our limited perception. Things run even deeper but I'll leave that there lol. Cheers

My poor sister with schizophrenia deals with serious apophenia on a daily basis...

Idk the world kinda does work in patterns, i mean, to me... uh oh.

This becomes especially potent when paired with the sunken cost falacy.

@Ikaros23

3 жыл бұрын

Also add the Dunning&krüger effect+ some narcissism and you have most first time stock buyers on the wall streets bets community 😂📉. They all chase patterns in the short term charts and news where there 99,9% of the time are none

@x914pqmm5

10 ай бұрын

​@@Ikaros23I have to get my phone back 😂😂😂😊

Wish everyone in the USA had seen this video 20 times in March 2020.

@NYCQuint

2 жыл бұрын

So you just displayed confirmation bias. Nice.

Sweet video man. Clear explaination👌

There is noise in this signal, therefore this signal is all noise. Minds evolved to detect patterns so pattern detection must be false, the way radios were designed to receive radio signals, therefore any reception of signals must be disregarded. After all, every animal that lives in a dangerous environment evolves an organ to detect patterns. A big cerebrum is universal in nature. Plenty of confirmation bias in the thinking about this. Maybe make distinctions rather than dismissing an entire class of phenomena.

Like it's easier to see patterns in a textile pattern because there just is one there and it's harder to see patterns in the clouds then that a lawn of grass which it's easier to see patterns and then a blank white page hyphen what does that mean or how can I express that quandary?

Yes i have issues with that big time would love to find a way to understand how to re wire my brain again. I realized it about a year ago it has to do with my brain being wired differently. It starts when I did alot of drugs for along time but now I'm 2 half years sober from them and still see it from time to time.

Nice coverage of the topic ... sharing this with people who need to understand it ... subscribed ... thanks much ...

@MindfulThinks

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the channel!

2:54 seems like that means the Cure is to try to prove yourself wrong if confirmation bias is the issue or to try to see if your pattern is useful if you're making a pattern largely based on nothing

My question sort of is how do you form the question of what patterns are able to trigger apophenia and what patterns are not able to trigger apophenia and if that style of question makes sense or if there's a different way I'm stating the truth underlying that is to say you can talk about apophenia but talking about its cause this sort of redundant

This certainly explains part of religion's development and staying power.

Hello, I have been susceptible to pareidolia and apophenia for as long as I remember, I've started posting shorts about those 'false positives' as youtube shorts and Instagram posts to see if other people would recognise the patterns. Would you say what is being seen is just 'dot connection' and pattern recognition or are part of the perceived information being 'hallucinated' ? Thanks

@0ptimal

Жыл бұрын

There is quite a bit of flexibility in how we interpret external data. If you expect to see patterns your brain will seek them and you'll find them. But if you understand the process of perception, how the brain takes sense data and constructs a version of it in your mind, and that there is a lot of things that influence how that happens, you can know that what you think you see is just that, a mental construct and not actually a frog face in your bowl of oatmeal. Ultimately you decide what is legitimate, if you see a shark in a brownie and you know that you have applied the idea of a shark to what you're looking at, and there's not actually a shark image there, you then understand that nothing made the image but your perception. We all do it, but ideally we don't apply much meaning to the patterns we may find in random things. Things can look like other things, but only you dictate the meaning, so try not to give meaningless patterns meaning.

My youtube algo foofbowl is feeding me WSOP, World Series of Poker...foofbowl!...the spellchecker does that!...foodbowl...hmmph...😃

Interestingly enough, was just looking into doing day trading to try to get me motivated to get into stocks. My assumption is if the patterns were easy enough to predict, you could literally just program a computer to watch the market and theoretically just make infinite money with little risk. (Which is obviously not true.) At some point it becomes similar to the idea that you could make infinite money playing blackjack if you only had a large enough bankroll.

I guess that explains the constellations.

@psychee1

Жыл бұрын

That it does.

Bring back some common sense 👍 especially in today's digital age it is important

Terrence Howard likes this...

Qanon.

❤

Is materialism, by which I mean the belief that the only REAL things are material things (partials and forces) an example of confirmation bias. The "rationalist" BELIEVES in materialism and so is inclined to dismiss experimental findings that suggest that non material factors might be at work as "noise".? The whole idea of cognitive bias suggests that we KNOW (as opposed to believe) what things count as REAL. This is not to suggest that there aren't things which are definitely NOT real. Rather, we should at least consider the extent to which our criteria for assessing reality might not also be the product of apothenia.

is following my instincts apophenia

👍 hi frens

Subtle propaganda

@abundantharmony

Жыл бұрын

...actually exists, and if you are impartial enough to acknowledge it, you are part of the true elite.

Apophenia ranges from cloud watching to the more extreme, religion...

This is me. I might be schizo lol

@jamie-qg1ix

Жыл бұрын

yea you definitely might \\ ]]

It's the conspiracy theorist's best friend and why "There are no coincidences" is a favorite saying of assholes who peddle in conspiracy theories.

Please don't hate me: if I have a Type 1 error

@Alan_Duval

Жыл бұрын

Is it diabetes?

Sounds like naive realism to me

Everyone has got a feeling in the gut