I'm sure the young lady in the white lab coat who was providing treatment with this machine had at least an hours training. I love that a lot of modern products contain a microcontroller core that dates back to 1980 - the era I'd happily time travel back to, to relive it again.

@TheRasteri

Жыл бұрын

devices should be assumed to contain 8051s unless otherwise stated

@maxmayer4247

Жыл бұрын

Imagine working for Intel in the 1980, and been told that the micro Controller you are developing is still used, nearly half century later

Prized components - the pumps and valve systems, and maybe the PSU for non safety critical applications.

Manufactured date 2021, scrap date 2022. Hm, this didn't last long...

Those 8 connectors are obviously independent safety interlocks. One for each hand and foot of both operator and victim.

Looks like the brains for an IPL, "intense pulsed light" unit. The laser head is just a stack of 808nm diodes bolted together, with no lenses, and overdriven to death in pulsed mode by the CC circuit inside.

This seems to be a standard construction of a cheap cosmetic device sold expensively. I work in an environment that I repair many cosmetic devices (out of courtesy). The vast majority of them are medium to good quality modules slapped together with cheap plastic by people that doesn't seem to understand what they are doing. Many boards are interchangeable between LASER devices, TENS devices, galvanic currents, high frequency ultraviolets therapies, ultrasonic peeling devices. etc.

*DiodeGoneWild:* And the conclyoosion is: Syooper dodgy!

@JohnnyX50

Жыл бұрын

Niiiiiiiice :D

Always look forward to your teardowns Mike. That display looks like the old seat back screens on a 747. The PSU also looks to be an ‘off the shelf’ open frame type

A bit creeped out by the Precious Bodily Fluids reservoirs.

@uncommonsensor

Жыл бұрын

lol

Lack of grounding to the power supply filtering is a new “feature”: Wash your body in soothing waves of EMI/RFI while getting simultaneous laser hair removal and liposuction. Relaxes the body energy, improves consciousness, and cleanses tense feelings. Customer pays extra for that, ‘ya know. Seriously though, neat tear down. Surprising what people will do to save a few cents. Thanks!

@seanyem

Жыл бұрын

There machine actual do bath you in RFI, The use SW RF to sooth the skin from the pain of the Laser or the IPL Xenon.

10:32 Nice human dripping.

Great to see you back doing teardowns Mike, things are very thin on the ground at the moment aren't they? Glad you posted though, this is a horrible mash of cheap Chinese made modules wrapped up in something that looks 'professional'.

@gorak9000

Жыл бұрын

A cheap doged together controller for some wankery cosmetics "lazers". Seems about right.

It was in a vapor face cleaning device (with an ultraviolet lamp ozone generator) that had the ground wire screwed on the plastic case. With a proper locking washer and everything. 😂😂😂😭😭😭

I see lots of new videos on my subscription page every day, but if there's one from Mikeselectricstuff the decision of which to click first is easy. 👍👍

@erlendse

Жыл бұрын

Totally, a lot is a waste of time while this is not!

new watering and lightning system for your plants ?.. its all there .. pumps, valves, reservoir, simple micro , light switches, power supply.. really all you need :D

@tinygriffy

Жыл бұрын

PS: I would guess the 2 pin connectors are for something like foot switches to turn on and off suction or the laser or whatever functions that thing has, maybe programmable through the software ? maybe there is a manual for similar machines that reveals that secret ^^

Awesome video as always.

9:30 the 8 outputs makes me think either a TENS style machine with a bunch of zappy...(but no HV flyback coils so that's probably not it), or worse 'cold laser' infrared leds - the hypest of sham treatments.

One of my 3D printers has a smaller DWIN HMI. They're neat little modules for what they are and the price, although the documentation is mediocre. I think yours is dead, since they'll normally boot up into some sort of display (usually a splash screen) before receiving any serial commands. They expect you to use their janky Windows software to build UIs for it, which spits out a bunch of binary blobs that you then load onto an SD card and put into the display. The display can do limited navigation between screens (which the docs call "pages" iirc) without serial interaction, and I think it can toggle GPIOs on the modules that have them, but otherwise they rely on another host reacting to touchscreen/button presses and updating the field values via UART (where the layout/type of fields is programmed via SD card and can't be changed on the fly). They are conceptually similar to Nextion displays that I think have a little more foothold in the hobby market.

Those 2-pin connectors on the back seem to be standard for "small" lipo laser pads.

Thanks Mike.

the pump may have been for pushing cool air to the laser head - I've had hair removal before and the head blasts cool air onto the skin to help with the pain (feels like having a thick rubber band snapped against your face repeatedly)

that pump awesome for a new pc build

I bet you those outputs on the back were for some stupid led facemask or something like that lol

I doubt that the screen in that thing is 1080P but if it is that explains the two video chips - some higher res lcds are electrically two lower res screens stuck together, with ODD and EVEN LVDS pairs.. it might be that each chip drives either the left or the right side in sync.

Lasers of this class require some form of access control, like a key switch to turn on the laser. I don't see any on the unit. It is allowed to implement the switch as a software password as well, so it could be in the touch interface. A remote interlock jumper is also mandatory, so at least one of the connections on the back is an interlock.

Must have been a pilot device. I can't believe any importer would deploy kit in a metal box without grounding the chassis. Especially something containing a conductive liquid and intended for a wet operating environment. It wouldn't even pass a PAT test. That said, it's surprising to see that in a prototype too.

@mikeselectricstuff

Жыл бұрын

It was a plastic box

@premaji4520

Жыл бұрын

The biggest plot twist of the day that even i fell for. That plastic box looks more metallic looking than most metallic boxes out there.

@maxmayer4247

Жыл бұрын

I've seen some impressively Badly designt and manufactured equipment important from China to Germany

It looks like a machine full of woo-woo to me! The ultrasonic stuff is probably used for "fat removal" (which doesn't work) and the laser might be for hair removal (which does work.) Also very clearly built to a price.

@tad2021

Жыл бұрын

And the random switched outputs on the back might be for magical woo-woo LEDs any number of claims.

i would love to get my hands on the display and pumps. If you have finished playing with the stuff, i would take care of these components for you. Just get in touch with me...

I believe there's an errant 'p' in the title :)

9 in 1 Ultrasound 40K Cavitation Vacuum RF Slimming Machine Laser Treatment Body Liposuction ??

@Thermoelectric7

Жыл бұрын

Definitely not the same unit, but gives an idea of the accessories and operation modes. Those multiple identical plugs Mike was unsure about are for "laser pads", looks like a couple of laser diodes on a pad for some voodoo fat removal magic. Can see an overview of that 9 in 1 thingo here kzread.info/dash/bejne/fKx227qLebzYe5c.html

@andreas9238

Жыл бұрын

@@Thermoelectric7 creepy

@seanyem

Жыл бұрын

Your very close, all the the Liposuction, Although the do used Mixed Lasers and Xenon aswell as SW RF to break down fat, But mostly used for SHR IPL Hair Removal, and some Laser Treatment, But most of the Hair Removal there days used the Xenon Lamps rather than the External Lasers

Remove seal after washing

@gorak9000

Жыл бұрын

maybe they just wanted the beepers to be quieter

This hmi is quite nice. I can see its about 15-20£ ttl uart module

Very chinezium construction.

Fancy drink dispenser 👍

at least you can get a few fans and heat sinks for your “junk” box out of it The display could also be useful. Thank you for the tear down

@mikeselectricstuff

Жыл бұрын

I REALLY don't need any more fans or heatsinks....

@gorak9000

Жыл бұрын

And most of these displays that you can't get datasheets for are a waste of time. Why reverse engineer some one off garbage when you can just buy a display that's still in production and comes with datasheets for not that much money

It looks like a very similar level of shoddy crappyness to Styropyro's Nd:YAG tattoo removal system from his 10 million view video, and is almost certainly a "lipolaser slimming" device from the illustrious Dongguan Yahao Electronic Technology Co. which not at all hilariously sings the praises of its "powerful blastfat and vaglnaL tighten" systems. It's that delightful combination of pure pseudoscience ultrasound type stuff coupled with a very real and very dangerous high power pulsed laser, all thrown in a box with a pair of those random blue tinted plastic "laser protection goggles" taken from the factory's twin Lady Gaga inspired fashion eyewear production line next door that we've all come to expect from the Chinese by now.

As others have said, probably not a real laser thing. Looks like something from taobao. There are some real cosmetic (fractional) lasers that put out high-energy pulsed beam patterns. Those might have a cold air output on a handle to relieve some pain. They are usually leased and take "consumables" in the form of encrypted countdown chips costing $$$ a piece. One of those units would be interesting to tear down and reverse engineer.

@seanyem

Жыл бұрын

Narr this is actully very typical design, These wouldn't be found in the NHS, but many Private Skin Treatments and Hair Removal places across the world. Most come from good old Alibaba. They only cost about £1500 to £3000 with depending on if you go for 1 or 2 lasers (These are Gas Lasers that live in a Seperate cabinet with there own cooling and power supply's this control head sits on top of) 2 different options for Xenon IPL heads in each of the Wands. Also SW RF is emmited from the wands to the skin for pain relief. The air and water cooling is for cooling the the wands in different ways depending is they are cooling the Wands from Laser use or Xenon, The IPL Xenon lamps in the wands sre Air Cooler to help with re-triggeeing. These machine are cheap and usually boaged together from other machine the company has used or sold for similar to totally different use.

Looks like an early prototype......or a shoddy production unit!

Ah another instalment from curiousmarc - wait, what - Mike has got his hands on some Apollo cosmic gear? Ah bugger, need better glasses 😂

@spagamoto

Жыл бұрын

I legit read the title as "Apollo cosmic laser" thinking it was Marc haha. No worries though, this channel is just as good!

Can you pull any firmware of?

This might have some similarities to a product on Ebay be sold as a "RF photon slimming machine".

@jaro6985

Жыл бұрын

yeah definitely the same style with many connectors going to multiple head styles.

@jaymzx0

Жыл бұрын

I think you're right. WL-939S "7 in 1 Radio Frequency Photon Cavitation Machine". It looks like $800 worth of sketchiness to me.

the whole thing screams made in china. The cheap GX12 connectors, the unused hole for a mains lead, the giant CE sticker with no further information the shitty LY2NJ relays (they cost 1 to 2 €), the wrong size crimp connectors, etc ...

Hi Mike, This machine is too small for a Dual Head machine, The Laser Module would normally sit under this control head, in the Laser Module it would have the 2 or more diffwrent wavelength Gas Lasers and the more cooling system, They have cooling for the Laser Tubes but also cooling for the wands so soothing the skin. There machines use Short Wave RF that is emmited from the wand thet is used for multiple reason but pain relief from the zap of the Laser is one reason. In the head of the wands they also have high power xenon lamps for IPL (Intense Pulse Light) treatment this also has some selectable filters to tune rhe light for different skin types.

@seanyem

Жыл бұрын

The lasers are normally nd:YAG or other mixed Gas Lasers. The connection on the back are normally for Light Therapy Modules, Which are packs that contain a mixed or Red and Blue LEDs, & Near-UV, Near-IR LEDs.

04/2021, is the 'use by' date I think actually my friend👍

@mikeselectricstuff

Жыл бұрын

Nope. The factory symbol means manufacture date. An hourglass means expiry.

@dglcomputers1498

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeselectricstuff and the fact that the memory chip on the display board is branded Kioxia rather than Toshiba also shows it must be relatively new.

It has been built on a very tight budget, but no earth?? The wire management is deadful, just flopping about in the wind. 🤷‍♂ interesting teardown 2x👍

The fact the display showed nothing makes me wonder if it was supposed to read from an sd card and only switch between images or whatever from the sd card via the cable from the other boards given they did not look like they could produce any form of graphical display data.

Was there a micro SD card in the slot? Anything on it?

@mikeselectricstuff

Жыл бұрын

no - I think that would just be for loading content onto the onboard 1GB NAND flash

The heavy screw termial at 4:30 seems to be loose on the board, the whole thing is as dodgy as a dodgy thing!

@JohnnyX50

Жыл бұрын

Not as dodgy as Wee Dodgy Mc Dodgy, winner of last years 'Who is the dodgiest competition' 🤣

I'm not entirely sure I want to know what that was used for, and I ESPECIALLY don't care to know what is in those line dryers. I suppose it could just be old, funky water. But it also could be something rather foul. I think I would rather remain blissfully ignorant as to what it is.

did you somehow change a setting to make the comment section default to the sort by newest instead of the usual sort by best, or is this just more random youtube comment system bullshit

@mikeselectricstuff

Жыл бұрын

YT default is "Top", I usually set to newest but sometimes forget & do it later

@Muonium1

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeselectricstuff didn't even know it was possible!

I had too read the word cosmetic twice! By brain registered cosmic at first🔭

@CanizaM

Жыл бұрын

"Apollo" primed you in that direction for sure.

@everettwatson5074

Жыл бұрын

@@CanizaM I didn’t write that but you are100% correct it did.

Hi!

Looks like generic Chinese electronics with a whiff of magic woo-woo.

Wireless earth antena

Dermalogica Laser System killing of wine marks that sort of thing or erasing Verrucas, Maybe ask a Beautician.

I have some older editions of 60825, parts 1, 3 & 14 is there an email I can send to?

This looks like one of those chineese "multi" in 1 devices.

@flagg85

Жыл бұрын

Like a hairdryer and toaster in one.

Seems very cheaply built, clearly down to a price.

@rustblade5021

Жыл бұрын

cLeArLy dOwn tO a pRicE it's "clearly" a sample unit or prototype.

@SeanBZA

Жыл бұрын

Down to a price, then started digging deeper to save money.

Two words that have no business being used together - 'cosmetic' and 'laser'.

@donvito1973

Жыл бұрын

No Mr Bond, I expect you to look younger :-)

@Lemon_Inspector

Жыл бұрын

The laser doesn't do anything. It's purely cosmetic.

A liposuction device.

Don't let the others commenting fool you. This can be a very dangerous laser. I would look up the styropyro video on these. He is a laser expert and does a tear down on one of these.....

@Palmit_

Жыл бұрын

others commenting lol. I have to laugh at the irony.. (or is it hypocrisy) of your comment 🤣🤣🤣

@Muonium1

Жыл бұрын

this isn't a laser at all. for something to be a laser it needs to have a material that...um....lases. unless you know something about fiberglass circuit boards and plastic housings that I don't, this doesn't.

Those circuit boards are the definition of chinese electronics. You cant get more china than this, they should put those boards in thair national flag.

Who cares if it won't fly to the moon - it's still some nice modern pro electronic gear. It could be built a bit cleaner when it comes to cable routing, but it still looks pretty. I'm kinda concerned about these moving terminals at 4:30. Fan mounting (6:23) is indeed dodgy, the fan could be attached to the heatsink instead. The PCB looks pretty nice though I'm not a fan of this substrate. To think that a single piece of ground wire could make it so much better... The hydraulic system is just damn lovely, I'd totally reuse it in a small CNC mill or laser engraver cooling system.

@maxmayer4247

Жыл бұрын

the terminals at 4:30 look identical to the terminals used by Anet a few years ago to connect the hotbeds of 3d printers, which contributed to multiple building fires

@Brandon-rc9vp

Жыл бұрын

This is NOT a piece of pro electronic gear, it is a very dangerously made piece of high energy equipment, I doubt the laser safety was tested or is even controlled, and the CE mark is 100% fake because it would require adherence to ISO 60601 for medical devices, which in turn would require safety marking by one of a handful of registrars in the EU and it would be next to that mark. If it was intended to be sold into the US as well is would require the same under 21 CFR 1004-1050. And no safety agency would even stick around for 2 minutes after opening it and seeing the front panel mains switch with no grounding or isolation. I've been being audited by them in the device and laser emitting device industry for 20 years now. This would result in a consent decree if inspected by FDA.

Medical devices are so overpriced & underbuilt.

Glad I didn't invest in this cheap Chinese nasty laser !

Mike, I'm surprised YT didn't block this video on the basis that it wasn't woke-compliant. "Master/Slave" indeed! 😀

@bmay8818

Жыл бұрын

"Woke" = a term used by people who can't spell "empathetic". Sure, people go overboard sometimes, but I'd rather have it go too far in that direction than the other way. And really, how hard is it to change one term to another? The world hasn't ended because some words were changed.

@xjet

Жыл бұрын

@@bmay8818 I see no reason to change long-standing nomenclature simply because some people, with no understanding of the concepts involved, want to draw some non-existant connection with unsavoury aspects of our history. The world has *far* more important things to worry about than those who choose to have their feelings hurt at every turn of the cards.

@bmay8818

Жыл бұрын

@@xjet Or, and this will no doubt come as a surprise to you, some people who deal with racism every day really don't need unnecessary reminders of how they're different, and the horrors their ancestors went through. It's kinda like taking down statues; I don't know what it's like to walk by a celebration of slavery every day on my way to work, but I can see how that'd be a big problem for a lot of people, so down they go. Words can be similar. It's totally unnecessary to use master/slave outside of the actual master/slave situation, so why use those words that can be hurtful to a whole class of people? It really is as simple as replacing two words with something else. Or are you too offended by that?

@xjet

Жыл бұрын

@@bmay8818 Well don't blame me for the racism that others may exhibit towards you. Besides, this has nothing to do with racism. Master/slave is a term, in the context of this video, that has absolutely zero racist implications. Don't be a snowflake.

@bmay8818

Жыл бұрын

@@xjet Snowflake? I'm not the one getting offended by changing a pair of words. Nobody exhibits racism towards me, I'm a Standard White Dude. AKA I have the privilege to not be a concerned with this kind of thing, but I am because I'm empathetic. Or "woke" if you want to call it that. No, the master/slave thing in a technical sense has nothing to do with slavery, you're right about that. But it's not that this has any connection to slavery, it's that those terms are totally unnecessary and serve as a reminder of a very very ugly past that has ramifications today. I can see how, if I was Black, and I dealt with racism every day, seeing "master/slave" outside the actual context of actual racism would be a reminder of things I didn't need to be reminded of, and also an indication. Of what? Of how a whole lot of white people (like you) think it's more important to hold on to outdated terminology than to change literally TWO WORDS in order to help me. If your partner said "I really hate it when you call me 'honey' because that's what my abusive ex called me, so can you please stop, or change that to something else?", would you say "sure, no big deal, it's literally just one word"? Or would you say "suck it up loser, I'm not responsible for any of that"?

Yay, a laser unit with no laser! Boring.