Decklists Ao - bit.ly/S15E10-Ao Hinata - bit.ly/S15E10-Hinata Tevesh/Ishai - bit.ly/S15E10-Tevez-Ishai Malcolm/Tana - bit.ly/S15E10-Malcolm-Tana Yuriko - bit.ly/S15E10-Yuriko-Budget Yuriko - bit.ly/S15E10-Yuriko-Budgetless

5 solid minutes of describing a nim deathmantle combo youz a hero

Was great to see Ao pop off. But what I REALLY want to know is if Higher recorded the 'Charles sacrifices Ao to Ashnod's Altar and looks at the top Seven cards of his deck' individually or did it once and looped it.

Some say Ao is still looping to this day.

Ah, dangit, I screwed up Game 2 and didn’t sacrifice Sanctifier En-Vec first before I sacked Ao at around 17:50. Higher, we’re gonna have to redo this and you’re going to have to read everything again lol.

@Xeno-MTG

2 жыл бұрын

That was absolutely glorious Charles :D Felt incredibly janky and I loved every second of it

@gorzakMtG

2 жыл бұрын

didn't you have the win already once you had bomberman out and LED in yard? make infinite mana, sac a creature pay for deathmantle vial damage triggers and rinse repeat?

@Ilvaldi

2 жыл бұрын

@@gorzakMtG Yes. However, in the audio of that game, Cal wanted to know if I could loop through my entire deck and win with RoL in play, so I showed him I could do just that. This way, you can see as many of the win cons in this deck in one showing since I flip through a large portion of it.

@hang03

2 жыл бұрын

Sanctifier only exiles red or black..?

@Ilvaldi

2 жыл бұрын

@@hang03 Nim Deathmantle turns the equipped creature into a Black Zombie.

Charles is built different love seeing the mono white decks.

@jetselenting8153

2 жыл бұрын

I love matches with Charles in them. Always unexpected, ever entertaining!

Man higher had their work cut out for them narrating that game 😂

@Ilvaldi

2 жыл бұрын

You should’ve seen the DM Higher sent me after narrating my game lmao.

We can hear Higher's fatigue narrating Ao's loop! hahaha! we feel you bro! Great line though! Awesome deck that Ao! Never seen it in action! :D

I saw it coming when Nim Deathmantle was ignored. In fact, it should be the most valuable card alongside Ashnod's Altar for game 2, as they can loop with anything that puts an extra creature on the battlefield: persist/undying creatures, creatures that make tokens when they enter or die, creatures that reanimate when they enter or die, and so on.

I almost feel like Charles is on a one-man crusade to show mono-white is valid in cEDH :P

8:39 Fun rules fact: If a creature changes controllers during the combat step, it is removed from combat. It might have been the correct choice to activate the Path now, of course. This is just something to think about in the future!

@adfinder5791

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn't swinging at him, so there was no upside to removing it from combat.

First game was nuts. Nobody paid attention to Charles due to mana screw, and ended screwing everyone else XD. Game 2 no one expected the combo (me neither) and...... kaput, everyone else's dead.

I love Highers' energy while narrating

Birdslapped is not a word I knew I needed in my vocabulary

@TRS-Aphelion

2 жыл бұрын

I legitimately laughed out loud

@jldrums

2 жыл бұрын

@@TRS-Aphelion I have tears in my eyes from the fierce delivery he put on it.

That Homeward Path was godly 😂😂😂😂

This is my favorite episode of the new voice. Really dig it

I love seeing mono-white piloted so well! Such an underrated color.

He Sacrifices Ao

@khalitz

2 жыл бұрын

Each opponent loses 2 life

@noteveryday

2 жыл бұрын

OW. OW. OW . OW

Love seeing Charles showcase his mono-white decks.

When was the last time we saw a cEDH game where every player was eliminated with combat damage?

@Xeno-MTG

2 жыл бұрын

Literally the last PWP episode (the Mox Pearl one) Game 1 :D

@iPhoneeditor

Жыл бұрын

Godo Bandit Warlord and Finale of Detestation decks technically do win through combat, even if they combo to get there.

6:13 Take me to the land where candy is thrown in such a manner.

Holy Cow! This is why i absolutely love mono colored decks!

I think most valuable card in game 2 should be oswald, he can assemble all the combo by himself.

Just wondering if there is an updated deck list for Ao? The one that's in the link is not the one that was played on the video.

@Ilvaldi

2 жыл бұрын

There is an updated list and it's on my Moxfield. Just search for the user, "Ilvaldi," and the list is called, "F.U.Y.A."

@DavidOConnor44

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ilvaldi Thanks! This deck looks fun to play!

Ao in action is so fun to watch

geez, mono white had no mercy! awesome deck

Had to like for the Ao Narration loop

Ao is stronger than it seems. Phyrexian Altar plus Helm of the Host is a free Ao trigger each table rotation. Nim Deathmantle is very strong too with the Altar. And there are two or three draw engines in white which give you cards for putting onto the field low mana value creatures.

Charles is a God when it comes to deck building

What's that "chains of mephistopheles" Adam's deck runs in the second game coming into play at 13:09. That card only exists in two old versions, it's a proxy I assume?

Wow, such a nice win 🤯

With Auriok Salvagers + Grand Abolisher + Relic Vial isn't Charles just flexing instead of finishing them off?

@Halinn

2 жыл бұрын

Yes a bit. It's explained in another comment, but someone in the game wanted to know whether it could win through a Rule of Law

As someone interested in starting their own MtG gameplay channel, playing with others long distance, is there any equipment you could suggest starting out?? Card pool is no issue, it’s just the camera and such.

Ok but seriously, where are people finding these nice full proxies for their decks! I want to do something similar and I’m curious if there’s some sort of mass entry I can do

Finally, the Ao episode!

Game 1 comments: Really cool, liked the interactions and strategies. Game 2 comments: bruh

Sometimes you gotta get bird slapped! Lol

Charles: I'm gonna win but first lemme show you all the cards in my deck...

Really amazing showing from Ao

Ha, Charles and his mono-white builds, he always does it!

Did I miss something or was flusterstorm payable in game 1?

before I even watch this game - I love Cal's aggressive mulligan

What happened to the vintage gameplay? I was really enjoying those videos. CEDH is good too tho

well done!

Is this some kind of tuned down low power episode? Barely saw tutors and the usual combos combos.

Anyone know where Adam got the retro lands playmat?

What a wild way to win!!

I love that Dragon, Ao is awesome

are these games all played over the stream/internet or is this a IRL tournament?

Great game! Can't wait for the day that TCGPlayer's deck builder comes out of beta aka just separate spells by card types....

Is this the same charles as from the spike feeders or another? Feel like I've seen a monowhite charles before

@Ilvaldi

2 жыл бұрын

This is the same Charles that's on the Mind Sculptors and the Mono-White Guys Podcast.

All I can say is...ao poor highers throat

Damn that mono white pop off

Ah cheaper version than shinto: first hand chains of Mephistopheles jsjss, i laughted

What was the card in game 2 In which the ao player kept draining life by the creature dying?

@Ilvaldi

2 жыл бұрын

Relic Vial. The trigger only works if you control a cleric, which Ao flips over. Incidentally, a lot of hatebears tend to be Clerics.

I'm just surprised that the Ao list doesn't run Krark-Clan Ironworks. Seem stupid good with the Death Mantle loop

@Ilvaldi

2 жыл бұрын

The list I ran didn't have enough of an artifact density to really make KCI work. On top of that, KCI is 4 mana which eats up one whole Ao trigger, whereas you ideally want a permutation of 2 2 drops or a 3 drop plus 1 drop so you're netting positive on each flip. In Higher's version of Ao, he's running way more artifacts which makes KCI more viable there. His version also forgoes more of the stax to B-line in a faster combo win.

@levijaeger4910

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ilvaldi Right. Enough artifacts, though, and KCI seems like a worthy inclusion. I feel like it wouldn't be too hard to hit a critical mass of artifacts. All those mana rocks basically pay for another activation and then some. Definitely more for an all-combo deck. I'm probably going to have to work on a list now.

That Ao win was beautiful

Where did Adam get his playmat????

Would love an update to the budget Yuriko cedh list.

Cool games guys. I might be missing something, but Nim Deathmantle's trigger costs 4 and Charles is only sac'ing 1 creature most of the time? That's 2 mana short each time.

@PlayingWithPowerMTG

2 жыл бұрын

He’s saccing Ao as well

@ForestprowlerZ

2 жыл бұрын

@@PlayingWithPowerMTGAhhhh, thanks for pointing that out :)

Honestly kinda love watching Ao go off.

I'm so confused. How is charles paying the nim death mantle 4 with only sacrificing one creature to ashnods for 2?

@farleinfortenia3896

2 жыл бұрын

He basically sacrifice Ao for 2 and another creature for another 2.

@wrexbodypillow4081

2 жыл бұрын

@@farleinfortenia3896 omg I can't believe I didn't notice that. Thanks!

@Anubis9033

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you soo much, i habe the same questionmark over my head!🙈🤣

Charles really likes his mono-white decks

Ao seems pretty sick

Am I missing something how was charles sacing one creature to pay for nim?

@jasperowens1669

Жыл бұрын

Nvm I was missing the fact that he was also sacing Ao

"he loops Ao" is going to haunt my dreams

Lets go Charles!!!!!!

When Ao was being looped by Deathmantle why did he only need to sacrifice one creature to ashnod's alter and not two? Doesn't ashnods give 2 mana, but you need 4 mana to activate nim deathmantle? What am I missing?

@johnie4311

2 жыл бұрын

Each time he looped Ao he also sacrificed Ao to ashnods for the other two mana

Charles and cal with the based playmats

Great to see Ao loops. But couldn't he have stopped when he had bomberman online and flipped into the ranger captain? He get's ballista with captain to win....though not nearly as interesting lol.

Spoilers! Couldn’t Charles have made infinite mana through Auriok salvagers and LED that second game, and looped LED with extort triggers through blind obedience to win? Am I missing something?

@thiagoschernikau4769

2 жыл бұрын

he just went for the flashy win

@Ilvaldi

2 жыл бұрын

I could have killed them with the Salvager combo, but they wanted to see the other combo kill, which involved not needing cast anymore spells after the first spell was cast.

Mono white Ad Naus! 🐓

Ooo a video.

Charles has to be one of the top players of cEDH by now. A master of his craft

@kingofrunescapepking

2 жыл бұрын

He really isn't, he just gets left alone all the time for no reason

@abrahamdrinkin2534

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingofrunescapepking you don’t make it to top 4 at Marchesa because you get “left alone” lol at some point skill is needed

@kingofrunescapepking

2 жыл бұрын

@@abrahamdrinkin2534 right but as far as these videos go it always seems like nobody interacts with anything Charles does until it's too late

I cannot believe how many games Charles won with mono white

First game : Any reason Adam attacked Cal with his double striked 14/14 ishai rather than Charles who clearly was a bigger threat at that point ? :/ I can't see clearly the board of charles but afaik he didn't have a blocker. Second game : why didn't Cal cast his brainstorm during the endstep of Charles turn 1 ? He would have had his two mana free during his turn, meaning solring into malcolm T1 was a real option. Is it to draw an additional card before fetching ? (I'm not asking to attack the play validity but to try and understand the strategy behind)

Is Adam a magician? (I ask 'cause I am and also use cards for tokens)

Love mono white.

I knew Ao would be a great cedh option. Thanks mono white players!

Bro was playing solitare in game 2

Cal has the coolest proxies

I must have missed it but how is he only sacrificing one creature to Ashnod for Deathmantle? Ashnod provides two mana but DM costs 4.

@PlayingWithPowerMTG

2 жыл бұрын

He sacs Ao to it as well.

@noahsanchez9985

2 жыл бұрын

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG Aaaand now I feel like an idiot. 🤣 thanks for clarifying that for me!

non-deterministic loops are funny

Ow Ao!

Homeward paaaath!!

Serra Ascendant is just too good

I want this ao deck

Wow Ao can get dirty!!!

While Charles was doing the thing, he was probably like "I'm so sorry guys, I know I said this would probably take a minute but really, I'm so sorry."

Mono-white aristocrats is convoluted but god damn is it cool to see

And some people in the discord I'm in talks mad shit about Mono White xD

whenever the announcer says Ao it sounds like Al

Homeward Path is my favorite land. Play with your own cards, don't take mine.

Charles is my hero

He LoOpS aO!

Couldn’t Charles have won the moment get he got Auriok Salvagers? Make infinite mana for Nim Death Mantle and then proceed to keep looping without having to do the very time consuming resolving of Ao triggers. Although I do get playing it safe and having as much on the board as possible.

@xgxwills2857

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing. If somebody was going to interact, they would’ve definitely done it sooner and not waited that late in the combo to do it.

@Ilvaldi

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but the players wanted to know if I could win without ever casting another spell again, so I did the non-deterministic loop in the deck to give them a demonstration. This way, to the viewers, they can see what other win cons exist in the list as I flip over through most of them. There’s quite a few combo lines in this deck.

@xtyberius

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ilvaldi very cool list. Reminded me of what a Teshar list would look like if it had secks with an Oswald list, and then married a Heliod brew.

@paulinof2

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ilvaldi That’s cool nice demonstration of “challenge accepted” especially when you get to show off your deck instead of winning with a known loop. That’s why I love cEDH in a more casual pod your non deterministic loop would have been the stuff of legend in so far as people people feeling salty because you took up a lot of gameplay time. And I don’t say that derisively to either community or you. I’m glad you got to do that and had a group of players happy to watch the show. I enjoyed it, “like where was this gonna go lol”

@Ilvaldi

2 жыл бұрын

@@xtyberius Believe it or not, your description isn't too far off to how Higher described the deck when he saw me demo it to him haha.

Shouldn’t blind obedience be illegal to play in a mono white deck

Flusterstorm would not have countered curse as due to Hinata text he has to pay and additional 1 for each copy targeting curse

@PlayingWithPowerMTG

2 жыл бұрын

Try again next video.

@therealax6

2 жыл бұрын

It's only spells you cast, not spells you copy. You do have to pay {1} extra for Flusterstorm, but it's just one mana - not one per copy.

That Ao deck wow, very impressive.

Mono white really showing up here. Kind of strange to just see a cEDH game where several people die to old fashioned combat. Or is that just me?