"I'm not saying there was foul play... I'm just saying Anthony definitively murdered his wife."

@dantedeleon993

3 жыл бұрын

I busted out laughing!! 🤣🤣🤣

@Ligierthegreensun

3 жыл бұрын

HE BELONGS IN JAIL lmao

@alsatusmd1A13

3 жыл бұрын

…if by “murder” you mean “allow her to kill herself”.

@MikaelKKarlsson

3 жыл бұрын

So just politics then. 😉

@timothymclean

3 жыл бұрын

All the other Romans just divorced their political wives as soon as a better alliance came up, but Antony didn't want to deal with the paperwork I guess.

Man, Ventidius just casually pulled off a Caesar and then just vanishes from the records. What a boss.

@mrdelaney4440

3 жыл бұрын

He should have got his triumph, the guy earned it.

@freestylevimto3109

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrdelaney4440 He did get it

@samgrez7140

3 жыл бұрын

I figure mark anthony had him killed because he took his glory.

@napolien1310

3 жыл бұрын

@@samgrez7140 no way the Romans don't do that, andthat will outrage the soldiers.

@AlexKwiatek

3 жыл бұрын

He has pretty good track record. He also saved Antony at the end of Mutina campaign. He re-raised three legions from Ceasar's veterans* and merged with him while he was retreating from Octavius and Decimus *two of which were already re-raised by Octavius, so VIIth and VIIIth veterans were kinda fighting on both sides at this point

*The Son of Labienus led the Parthian Army* Wait hold up, you can’t just drop that lore outta no where.

@AlexKwiatek

3 жыл бұрын

In Philippi episode he foreshadowed that and told us that Labienus jr. was sent east to negotiate Parthian support for Liberators ;) i wish we knew more about it, but as HC said, sources are pretty poor for this war

@UrosDrljaca

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my God. Go Labienus Jr

@Madhattersinjeans

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah what the hell. A roman suddenly commanding foreign forces against rome?

@LostShipMate

3 жыл бұрын

God I wish there was more information on this.

@atuema1602

3 жыл бұрын

He had made an alliance with the Parthians in order to revive the Pompeian cause. He was originally there either because he had fled to Parthia or because he was sent there by Brutus and Cassius to obtain reinforcements for Philippi.

Who gave him permission to invade parthia? I sure as hell didn't

@decimusausoniusmagnus5719

2 жыл бұрын

Can I pee, Mister Aquila, Sir?

@jiffylou98

2 жыл бұрын

Tribune Aquila, my wife has been in labor for a week and a half, could you please permit her birthing my twins?

@robertgouldshaw2041

2 жыл бұрын

Hello

@desertexplorer8359

2 жыл бұрын

HAHA thats soo good, hilarious mann

@achilles7736

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, good one

Ventidius: > Barges in > Beats the Parthian Army with two legions > Refuses to elaborate any further > Leaves

@bpouelas

2 жыл бұрын

Tribune Aquila: > Barges in > Denies the legitimacy of Caesarian edicts > Refuses to elaborate > Leaves

@omnomnomnomm

2 жыл бұрын

the S in Ventidius stands for sigma

@kajolet

2 жыл бұрын

Lepidus: > Barges in > Beats Sextus and take Sicily > Refuses to elaborate > Leaves

@Julianna.Domina

2 жыл бұрын

@@kajolet Ceaser: >Rises to speak >gets stabbed >dies >refuse to elaborate any further

@flaviusbelisariusthebasedl3116

2 жыл бұрын

@@omnomnomnomm didn’t you mean sugma?

I would like to congratulate Antony on becoming pregnant once more.

@bpouelas

3 жыл бұрын

Big congrats to the guy. Pretty sure that really happened.

@naomiskilling1093

3 жыл бұрын

So do we send the baby shower gifts to Rome or to Alexandria?

@Julianna.Domina

3 жыл бұрын

@@naomiskilling1093 Yes.

@ericsilver9401

3 жыл бұрын

@@naomiskilling1093 No

@patricianoftheplebs6015

3 жыл бұрын

@@naomiskilling1093 send them to Parthia just like Crassus ;)

I swear Antony's story is just everyone around him succeeding at what he wanted to do

@secretscipio

3 жыл бұрын

My two favourite KZreadrs at one place.

@dimesonhiseyes9134

3 жыл бұрын

"everyone around him succeeding at what he wanted to do" Up until the point where Antony was able to finally snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

@ArcAngle1117

3 жыл бұрын

@@DerbyPorcelain He might have gotten Crassused if he had just marched into the open plains of Mesopotamia. Antony's plan for his Invasion of Partia was pretty good except for his long supply lines(and his inability to protect them)

@jamiengo2343

3 жыл бұрын

@@DerbyPorcelain though to be fair, whether Ventidius could’ve conducted a campaign into Parthia with his relatively few legions is unlikely. Staying in Syria was probably the best option

@Arigator2

3 жыл бұрын

I feel kind of bad for Antony. He's in way over his head. Everybody knew he was an idiot except himself.

Ventidius reportedly didn't pursue the Parthians further because he was concerned that he'd incur Antony's jealousy if he did so. I like to imagine Ventidius was the ultimate straight-man in all this dramatic high Roman politics, he saw how nuts all these major players were and dipped to the countryside rather than get dragged in to it all.

@pokeman5000

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, never outshine the master... Unless you can successfully kill the master and take his place. The dude took his W, cashed in his chips, and retired to his land/family/slaves/money. Arguably the smartest guy in Rome considering the climate of the empire at the time. Or they low-key killed him to avoid a competent general falling to the other side. I'd argue the latter.

@lorefox201

3 жыл бұрын

"yikes, I think I'll just get back to my family's farms..." Ventidius, 1st century BC

@misterpayah7723

3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant man. Got his triumph, got recorded positively in the history books, and died peacefully. Definitely inspired by Caesar.

@jiffylou98

2 жыл бұрын

Even more Labienus than Labienus’ own son

@BudMasta

2 жыл бұрын

A win is a win, peace out yo - Ventidius, probably

“Anthony and Cleopatra spent the next four days locked in aggressive negotiations” I’d say they did alright

@alessandragonzales8190

2 жыл бұрын

He negotiated twins right into Cleopatra

@moussanoir2807

Жыл бұрын

It was a kind of Depp-Heard story

@DylanDkoh

7 ай бұрын

Timestamp?

"I'm not saying that he murdered his wife, but he did do that, and should be in jail." *eats popcorn faster*

@jesseberg3271

3 жыл бұрын

Ya, except that we just covered the fact that the Romans were super casual about divorce in the last episode.

@TheOccupants

3 жыл бұрын

**popcorn eating continues**

@seneca983

3 жыл бұрын

Did the Romans have jails? More specifically I mean, did they use jail time as a punishment for crimes (as opposed to temporarily holding captives)?

@TheOccupants

3 жыл бұрын

I think it was banishment primarily. Cicero used a temporary jail for traitors during the Catlinarian Conspiracy but they were executed.

@TheOccupants

3 жыл бұрын

It ain't the grieving I'm worried 'bout *gets more popcorn*

Arguably, getting out of Parthia with only 50% of your army starving to death in the cold represents real progress compared to the previous campaign! Never give up on your dreams!

@alanpennie8013

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe next time we'll only lose 25%.

@michaeldunn5337

2 жыл бұрын

@@alanpennie8013 by the 4th time after definitely losing the 3rd time, who knows whats possible, actually winning? Crazy stuff

@Atomhaz

Жыл бұрын

Around 2000 years later and we still get to dunk on Antony. Cicero would be proud.

@wiritpollapcharoenporn3168

4 ай бұрын

You mean the Crassius blunder... that one is brutal

I'm disappointed it wasn't mentioned in the video, because Ventidius is one of my favorite lesser known Romans. But he started his life being a captative in another Roman's triumph. He then worked his way up through the Roman army, and after his victories, was awarded a triumph for himself. The feeling of elation he must have felt would've been massive as well as an example of the social mobility of competent men in Rome.

@longhairdontcare122

8 ай бұрын

The failure of a system to make upward mobility easier than before cost votes an power. The system making upward mobility unlikely or impossible means a war against said system which win or lose ends in its death. Gusse were the western world is atm?

@Pillowcase

4 ай бұрын

That's incredible

@geordiejones5618

Ай бұрын

A lot of the generals of the time have cool stories. Taurus fights in Sicily, North Africa, Dalmatia, Greece, Egypt and Spain, all with distinction. Agrippa is a known legend. Crassus's grandson redeems his family name by conquering north of Macedonia, up to the Danube, and was denied the crazy rare Spoila Opima. Drusus and Tiberius are very important in conquering the Alps and up to the Rhine, (the conquests of Drusus conquering up to the Elbe are reversed by Arminius).

Antony said his wife aggravated her own illness, and we know Antony is an honorable man.

@Number1Irishlad

3 жыл бұрын

this is emphasized by his outstanding performance as a Consel of Rome in Caesar's stead while he was off in Egypt

@waluigisbean3148

3 жыл бұрын

Just like we knew Brutus was an honourable man

@aristophanesghost3839

3 жыл бұрын

All honourable men.

@zheng7636

3 жыл бұрын

@@noctepraeceptor6548 It's a line from Shakespeare's play on Caesar, bro. After Caesar's death, Antony used this line in his speech to indirectly call out his murderers for justifying themselves. It's a pretty powerful moment.

@adrianbundy3249

3 жыл бұрын

@@noctepraeceptor6548 r/woosh

Cant wait to listen to this 15 times over the next week to get repeatedly angry at Antony's failures.

@literallyjudas2157

3 жыл бұрын

?

@Togro1990

3 жыл бұрын

totally ready for the next square to be mad at

@yevgeniygorbachev5152

3 жыл бұрын

I'm torn between being more angry at Antony vs Octavian. On one hand, Antony was vain and threw an allied kingdom under the bus for a strategic miscalculation on Antony's part, but on the other, Octavian violated their agreement and denied Antony the chance to reorganize the Roman West.

@YTuseraL2694

3 жыл бұрын

@@yevgeniygorbachev5152 west, or east?

@yevgeniygorbachev5152

3 жыл бұрын

@@YTuseraL2694 I meant East, sorry.

My wife and i literally came back tipsy from the bar and the first thing she said was "Let's watch the next episode of that roman thing" and i said "hell yes!". We are big fans of historia civilis

@picklerix6162

11 ай бұрын

Nothing like a little history to set the mood.

@athunderfan

3 ай бұрын

​@@picklerix6162especially with stories like antony and cleopatra, gets the blood flowing im sure

@Saddam_al-Husseini

Ай бұрын

@@athunderfanThey gonna be locked in some reallll tense negotiations 😏

3:34 as an egyptian who plays flute, I can confirm that those musicians were of the utmost royal swag

@mostafamagdy7117

3 жыл бұрын

i like your taste

@benjaminhoover6427

3 жыл бұрын

Saraswati anyone?

@VentiVonOsterreich

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't expect you watching Historia Civilis

@benjaminhoover6427

3 жыл бұрын

Compare and contrast the Hindu pantheon against the greeks for homework...hahaa

@benjaminhoover6427

3 жыл бұрын

I'd be a fool not to expect Cheer Bear was unlearned;)

So when Caesar left his supplies behind he made sure his army was between them and the enemy. That part was important.

@zimmerwald1915

3 жыл бұрын

Not at Avaricum. But even there, he had numerically adequate guards for his stuff so it couldn't just be raided and pillaged with ease.

@fearedjames

3 жыл бұрын

Eh, it's not a terrible strategy. While Civilis wants to claim "Antony just screwed up" it fails to explain the simple thing. In real life, you don't just magically know where the enemy army is. So Parthia should of believed entering the mountains was a death trap. Their entire plan revolved around Antony abandoning his supply train and it being essentially unguarded. Therefore simply put, someone had to of tipped them off, or the Parthian general was an idiot who got lucky, or he pulled a 10000IQ master play and somehow knew Antony would abandon his supply train. Based on the scenario, I would almost immediately assume Armenia betrayed them as well.

@Captain_Carrot

3 жыл бұрын

@@fearedjames might not have been the "state" of Armenia, but at least some Armenians were most likely involved. At that time, Armenia was considered part of, for the lack of a better term, Greater Iran, and was very close culturally to Parthia. It isn't that much of a stretch to assume that at least one pro-Parthian noble would've known about ~50000 foreigners leaving their supplies behind. Even if the pro-Roman king managed to conceal it from the aristocracy, the close ties and cultural similarities between Armenia and Parthia make it infinitely easier for spies to operate there, compared to Asia Minor, Egypt or even Syria. And I can't really say how well informed Antony was on the cultural intricacies of the region, the state of Armenian politics or of the Parthian spy network, but I feel like he should've known at least something about at least the first two, if he was planning the invasion for years. And the fact that the earlier invasion of Syria happened precisely at the moment of his absence (especially considering the difficulty of quickly assembling armies in the past) should've probably tipped him off about the last one too.

@mcglynn20

3 жыл бұрын

@@fearedjames I mean it shouldn't have been a surprise that the Parthians might have been able to track down the baggage train, especially when the heir to the throne is pro-Parthian. If you're going to leave your baggage train behind, in a nation with pro-Parthian partisans, you really ought to guard it. Maybe he considered that but wanted to maximize his forces at the frontline, but at the end of the day it still is a miscalculation like HC said.

@danny90099

3 жыл бұрын

This is not first time parthia being invading by roman. Crassus did it before and at the time armenia offer to help him. But he stupid enough to refuse, i think after that parthia keep their eye on armenia and send number of spy in armenia

Sextus is literally the best temporary side character. Competent and wanted glory but outshined.

@Igor_lvanov

3 жыл бұрын

I vote for Labienus

@y.r._

3 жыл бұрын

@@Igor_lvanov le benis :DDD

@JamesJJSMilton

3 жыл бұрын

Sextus should have won!

@bezahltersystemtroll5055

3 жыл бұрын

@@y.r._ :DD

@mustafaamin9516

3 жыл бұрын

@@y.r._ I see you are a man of culture :DDD

Cleopatra: "So, listen, you've got my sister in prison, and I kind of would like to have her..." Antony: "Returned to you? Of course, I'll bring her right back to Egypt." Cleopatra: "What? No. Dead. I want her dead. Slit throat. Severed head. Spill all her royal blood, the works." Antony: "...geez, girl."

@luizamorim8265

3 жыл бұрын

Then they fell in love

@maxalaintwo3578

2 жыл бұрын

"Well damn so much for family ties"

@selahanany5645

2 жыл бұрын

But he was roman so it was ''....Jupiter, girl.''

@chataclysm2112

2 жыл бұрын

@@selahanany5645 or jewp, potentially

@johnpatrickcosta52

Жыл бұрын

@@chataclysm2112 Omg jewp XD

Fun fact Ventidius is one of those examples of a subordinate being objectively more competent than their superior. After Ventidius had turned back the Parthians he laid siege to Antiochus of Commagene. One of the local Roman leaders who had turned coat and sided with the Parthians. By the time Mark Antony had arrived in Asia Minor, Antiochus was attempting to sue for peace with Ventidius and was offering 1000 talents of silver in order to lift the the siege. However, craving a bit of glory for his own, Antony turned down the offer and took over the siege from Ventidius. As soon as command of the siege changed hands it almost immediately took a turn for the worse. Antony absolutely bungled the whole affair and ended up suing for peace anyways. However, This time Antony only received 300 talents of silver, instead of the 1000 that Ventidius had managed to negotiate previously.

"Ok I'm going to stop procrastinating and do some work." Notification: Historia Civilis has uploaded "Oh no."

@andrewmartin9379

3 жыл бұрын

Literally exactly what happened to me

@jamiee7367

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@bugrilyus

3 жыл бұрын

Shut pff your phone for a week man, try it. No screen time, good sleep, good food, good work.

@OttomanDrifter91

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, same. Also, don't forget to hate Antony.

@sriharshacv7760

3 жыл бұрын

TBH, he uploads once an year. Not such a big thing.

"All my work and all my money wasted!" "All my work and all my money wasted!" "All my work and all my money wasted!" Octavian chuckles "This'll make a great gift for Mark Antony" "Five talents for that bird!"

@crisscross-apples-sauces4255

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@grantwillis8542

3 жыл бұрын

I love this reference. Well done

@timothymclean

3 жыл бұрын

The real reason the Second Triumvirate broke down.

@rickaiello5052

3 жыл бұрын

I see what you did there, Strongboy.

@createrz8433

3 жыл бұрын

Ha I remember that video I wonder if he will make a reference to that during thr Civil War video once it ends

I get the strategic implications, but I can't in any way see how Antony thought declaring Caesarian Ceasar's legitimate son was a good move. You'd think Octavian's reaction to that is super obvious to anyone even vaguely familar with politics.

@SudrianTales

2 жыл бұрын

Especially with how shitty Anthony had been to Octavian after Caesars death

@dorkfish1275

Жыл бұрын

insisting on proscriping someone octavian had considered a father must've STUNG.

@William-the-Guy

Жыл бұрын

I would imagine Antony/Cleopatra did that to deliberately provoke a war. That's bthe generous reading of the situation.

@dorkfish1275

Жыл бұрын

@@William-the-Guy well he was a bad politician.

@William-the-Guy

Жыл бұрын

@@dorkfish1275 True. But Cleopatra was a good politician and she was involved in the decision as well. My guess was Cleopatra wanted to kill Octavian so her son would be the undisputed heir to Caesar. Caesar's veterans we're still loyal to his name and to Antony, many of them might have chosen to follow Caesarian over Octavian. From Cleopatra's perspective, it was a shrewd political move... Or it would have been if Antony hadn't lost the war.

I always picture the actor from the HBO show when we talk about Antony doing shady stuff. That guy was such a loveable bastard.

@Addious

3 жыл бұрын

Octavian: I have the senate and all the good veterans by my side. I have the will of the roman people against you. What do you have? Antony: And I, have an angry egyptian mob. That will roast, and eat your crowds of quality in the ashes of the senate house!

@lukejones7164

3 жыл бұрын

James Purefoy

@xergiok2322

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, me too. James Purefoy will forever be the official Mark Antony. And his character just fits so well with historical Mark Antony's behaviour.

@William-the-Guy

Жыл бұрын

I so agree! That actor is THE definitive Antony. I would love to see him play Shakespeares Antony. Can't you just picture his funeral oration?

@AAARREUUUGHHHH

11 ай бұрын

Absolutely perfect casting with Antony. Sometimes hateable, sometimes loveable. Often drunk.

This is ark is definitely more interesting than the Pompey/Caesar dynamic. Anthony being a thick headed narcissist and Octavian being a nerdy sociopath makes for more insane twists and turns than two competent generals actually duking it out.

@vallytine

2 жыл бұрын

It's more chaotic that's for sure. The Pompey/Caesar stuff had this air of professionalism to it, whereas the Second Triumvirate just feels like absolute power in absolutely the wrong hands.

@gmat5046

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on what kind of story you like. History is full of em.

@Clementine_D

2 жыл бұрын

Truth!

@gmat5046

2 жыл бұрын

@@Clementine_D Good characters make good stories

@mightycannon1512

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh I like caesar vs pompey more

I like how Octavian just stormed out of the senate and got to the first podium he saw to deliver a speech. That's how I imagine every single senate meeting ended in Rome

@TempestLM

3 жыл бұрын

Ant there's a whole crowd just waiting for someone to butthurt and storm out from the Senate to deliver some speech

@danielchequer5842

3 жыл бұрын

@@TempestLM yeah everyone was like "I wonder what today's speech is gonna be about"

@tada-kun982

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielchequer5842 "I just hope it's not the land redistribution shite again. Last time heads started rollin'"

@Father_Qese

3 жыл бұрын

Thats just Roman equivalent of twitter.

Anthony: "OMG the Parthians have broke through, we're royally screwed !!! Ventidius, take these few men and please, please, slow them down a tiny bit by diying" Ventidius: "Hold my vinum, ya little Cleo's bitch. I'm gonna blew away those Parthians' whole campaign"

Crassus is defeated in the plains. Everyone: You shoulda marched through the mountains! Antony marches through the mountains and loses. Everyone: Not like that, Ant, not like that.

@OkurkaBinLadin

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta love arm-chair generals. They are almost as lovable as armchair economists. (y)

@dayhawkify

2 жыл бұрын

It wasnt just March through the mountains, it was get escorted through and get reinforced at the same time

@jerry5449

Жыл бұрын

@@dayhawkify leaving out context helps his argument

@HumanTouchArt

Жыл бұрын

antonys plan was not that bad to be honest the only mistake he made was not securing his supply lines ....

@aryaa7069

Жыл бұрын

@@jerry5449 Except the army that beat Crassus wasn't even the main Parthian army and was only supposed to delay him. So if Crassus marched through Armenia he would have faced the main Parthian army led by the king which was much larger.

"Antony should be in jail!" - Historia Civilis This dude is very passionate about punishing people who died over 2000 years ago

@Milkyshake117

3 жыл бұрын

Justice knows no bounds!

@BryanLikesCandy

3 жыл бұрын

Culpam poena premit comes

@janfranklin5269

3 жыл бұрын

Antony was a mass murderer... but who cares, he killed his wife!

@andrewstewart1464

3 жыл бұрын

We must find Marc Antony's bones and throw them in a jail cell!!

@Afrimusican

3 жыл бұрын

He's still mad about Cicero

Well when most of the new puppet kings are your children and the center of the alliance is your lover you can't blame some guys for being suspicious.

@necfreon6259

3 жыл бұрын

Crusader kings 2 diplomacy in a nutshell

@necfreon6259

3 жыл бұрын

Well that’s what it was in the beginning I don’t know what it is now

@sparklesparklesparkle6318

3 жыл бұрын

sus af

@aguy6771

3 жыл бұрын

Antony dogged the boys

@Dashcam-FPV

3 жыл бұрын

Can't help but think it was all Cleopatra's idea. Anthony definitely doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the shed. That Armenia debacle doesn't exactly portray him as the mastermind of the Roman East's grand design.

"Hmm, how should I illustrate that Antony has fallen to drinking and is near-constantly inebriated? ...Oh I know I'll make the whole army spin!"

@rgddydshevchenko2448

Жыл бұрын

They were standing on the grave of cicero, who's intense spinning moved the land over him with him

"I'm not saying Antony murdered his wife. I'm just saying Antony definitively murdered his wife." I want this on a shirt

@J3diMindTrix

3 жыл бұрын

ikr lol

@ethanthegamelion4233

2 жыл бұрын

The no foul play shirt buy now

@SmallPotato2313

2 жыл бұрын

Merchendise idea?

@stevenreid2223

2 жыл бұрын

I want a model Bibulus Award.

@spcxplrr

Жыл бұрын

bright pink square on the back

We will never know if Antony poisoned Fulvia without her knowing, or she was just so fed up with his crap that she willingly died

@lkcdarzadix6216

3 жыл бұрын

yea fulvia might have fed up with life or KILLED by Antony

@masterplokoon8803

3 жыл бұрын

She probably lost it with the charriot pulled by lions😅

@thwiftlythwept7023

3 жыл бұрын

"Dear Antony, I did this because you are a complete idiot. Goodbye forever." Antony stands with the note in his hands, ashen with jaw agape. A nobleman walks in, sees the corpse. Nobleman: "Antony you cunning dog. You've offed Fulvia for political gain! Genius!" Antony: "Umm...yeah! That's exactly what happened." Crumples note behind his back.

@breaden4381

3 жыл бұрын

Pulled a Padme

@ethanalspencer7294

3 жыл бұрын

Antony can't even win a battle against his wife without her doing it for him!

"It was around this time that Antony became pregnant once more..." Save it for the fanfiction sites!

@JoseHernandez-bv5gr

3 жыл бұрын

No... , no... , no... .

@michaelmoran9020

3 жыл бұрын

The Virgin HBO Rome Vs the chad ABO Rome

@nameless-user

2 жыл бұрын

@Scom Tott What are you doing?! *STOP*

"it was on the verge of being ripped apart by factionalism" *Vibrates with intense factionalism*

"Antony was not a sound negotiator" Antony: *gives an entire fleet to a guy who just siezed half his army from him for an IOU* Yeah ok cleo's spies were right

@zealousdoggo

2 жыл бұрын

Outstanding strategy

@concept5631

Жыл бұрын

Imagine if Ventidius was in charge of the east.

Cool fact: Cleopatra Selene, Cleopatra's and Antony's daughter have married king Juba the second of Numidia, and their pyramid shaped shrine still stands today in Algeria, not far from the capital Algiers. And is locally known as the "Tomb of the roman lady".

@tagmata1872

3 жыл бұрын

Wow that’s actually pretty cool

@mini_bunney

3 жыл бұрын

that is indeed a cool fact, and it led me into a half hour wikipedia binge, reading about her and Juba II, their son Ptolemy, and trying to figure out if the bloodline ended there or maybe continued through either their daughter Drusilla or their grand-daughter, also Drusilla :D

@METALFREAK03

3 жыл бұрын

@@mini_bunney This is funny to me as my Great-Great Auntie was called Drusilla...who was tamely called "the witch of the east" (she resided in Malta at the time a British Colony)

@thenorthshow3655

3 жыл бұрын

@@METALFREAK03 you cant just drop that and not say more about it

@yulusleonard985

3 жыл бұрын

He was featured on history civilis Roman Triumph?

Looks like Octavian is about to finally send those legions to Anthony...

@marckyle5895

3 жыл бұрын

You mean 'at Anthony'

@infidelheretic923

3 жыл бұрын

@@marckyle5895 😈

@ewanhogg3068

3 жыл бұрын

Pointy end first!

@hades7982

3 жыл бұрын

@@marckyle5895 same differanse

@jackj9816

3 жыл бұрын

This is the Roman definition of finger on the nuke button

How much longer do I need to wait for a follow up to this ? It is killing me, this is the longest break he has took between videos . I hope he is doing okay

@brogant6793

2 жыл бұрын

Congress of Vienna: “oh HELLO THERE”

@geekzombie8795

Жыл бұрын

F

@aj9306

Жыл бұрын

@@brogant6793 He still hasn't finished the Rome series, I hope he at least does one final one with the battle of Actium.

@villagemagician1320

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. He's really starting to piss me off

@villagemagician1320

Жыл бұрын

@@brogant6793 because so many people who are just holding their breath waiting for that to be released... What a jerk.

It's been 6 months and you still haven't followed up on this episode yet, it hurts because I'm so invested. This is easily my favourite series on youtube, I hope you know how much people appreciate your work my guy.

@mattthedoormat

2 жыл бұрын

He's working on the next video. You can see his progress on his website. I think he mentioned on Twitter that the audio for the video is going to be at least an hour long, so that might be why it's taking so long to make the next episode.

@portland9880

2 жыл бұрын

Same here, can't wait for more

I just watched the Netflix documentaries on Rome and it's amazing that with all the means they have at their disposal, they never achieve to deliver a story as captivating and detailed as my favourite coloured squares dashing around a map of Europe. Keep up the good work!

@panosloulos

3 жыл бұрын

Your comment should be in the top 5. (Perhaps comparing it to another channel's show is not well accepted :P )

@Ildskalli

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, very underrated comment.

@tulsatrash

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Netflix needs to step up their game. I mean I'd say plenty of other TV documentary producers I won't name do too but I long ago gave up on them.

@sunderzilla

3 жыл бұрын

I am more emotionally invested in these colored squares

@EditorialJoe

3 жыл бұрын

@@tulsatrash Well, come on. Netflix has no scholarly ambitions. They have a vested interest in tinting everything in the hue of modern politics, not in making a serious attempt at presenting raw history. Just be happy Susan and her YT goons haven't found a reason to crush this and other historically-oriented channels (yet).

Fluvia dies. Doctors: "She lost the will to live."

@cheerfulpessimist952

3 жыл бұрын

Impossible, perhaps the archives are incomplete?

@Novous

3 жыл бұрын

Anakin totally killed padme

@redlobster1143

3 жыл бұрын

@@Novous technically, it was palpatine who did it

@jackj9816

3 жыл бұрын

@@cheerfulpessimist952 Antony draws sword “ check again “

@miguelmontenegro3520

3 жыл бұрын

Antony: Yeaa I mean....NOOOOOOOOO

"Antony bad brain dumb dumb stupid" had me on the floor laughing for several minutes

If Antony had asked Tribune Aquila this would've all gone down differently

@admiraloscar3320

Жыл бұрын

Wasn't he dead at that point?

@johnpatrickcosta52

Жыл бұрын

@@admiraloscar3320 Not to this community he’s not

this is definitely my favorite tri-monthly drama show.

@pathutchison7688

3 жыл бұрын

yea and it's not even close.

I can't believe Antony may or may not have killed his wife.

@zimmerwald1915

3 жыл бұрын

You can't believe he may or may not have, because he definitely did it. You should believe that instead.

@Ayy_Doll_Fiddler

3 жыл бұрын

Listen and believe > trust but verify.

@sanguiniusi8187

3 жыл бұрын

If you had watched the video in its entirety you would now.

@necfreon6259

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ayy_Doll_Fiddler what an accurate representation of modern politics

@Marc-pu8bu

3 жыл бұрын

Antony's Cat

Cleopatra: *dresses up as Aphrodite surrounded by cupids * Historia Civilis: "Perhaps seducing Antony was all part of the plan." Yes, Historia Civilis, *perhaps* ...

@user-cg2tw8pw7j

Жыл бұрын

The Romans had a race of slaves from the Europeans, why do they care about this woman?

@masterexploder9668

Жыл бұрын

Nah, she totally just felt the need to dress up as Aphrodite, please don't sexualize and objectify women.

Antony: Caesarion is now heir Octavian: *and i took that personally*

Gaius Julius Caesar: dies* Well both Octavius and Marc Antony can probably handle it from here. Octavian: gets thousands killed and has to face Boat King Sextus Antony: screws up the Parthian campaign and gets manipulated Gaius Julius Caesar: 🤦‍♂️

@Serocco

3 жыл бұрын

Genuinely infuriating seeing just how dumb they were at their jobs

@gummigamer4125

3 жыл бұрын

He'd roll in his grave but it was made into an imprompto pyre.

@juliusrobertjuico6322

3 жыл бұрын

The energy from Caesar turning in his grave from shame could probably power the whole Roman Empire

@patrykg6220

3 жыл бұрын

Antony's faliure in the Parthia is even more disapointing when you consider the time he has spent in Gaul with Caesar. Caesar was always carefull with his baggage train and set a lot o posts in strategic locations (bridges, crossroads etc.) and Antony is pushing forward without thinking about consequences.

@C0wsmacker

3 жыл бұрын

@@juliusrobertjuico6322 Maybe thats how it lasted so long?

Ventidius accidentally on purpose won the campaign in like 3 moves while Antony was trying to put together an army to face them💀

@tada-kun982

3 жыл бұрын

"Why are you back here, did they break through?" "Who?" "The Parthians!!" "Ah those mucks. Dead"

Anthony when his wife died: "Oh no! Anyway..."

Hey man I’ve watched the whole series without commenting, but I really think this is the best synopsis of the period of Roman history for adults who want to reintroduce themselves to the subject. You did a REALY great here man. It’s appreciated, even if I hadn’t decided to comment.

Tribune Aquila has allowed me to watch this early. Praise Jupiter!

@matthiasnagorski8411

3 жыл бұрын

But only praise if it's alright with Tribune Aquila! Wouldn't want to go over the head of the Great Tribune Aquila!

@UrosDrljaca

3 жыл бұрын

OMJ, so lucky

@oopieswhoopies

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthiasnagorski8411 LOL

@officialromanhours

3 жыл бұрын

petition to replace "my wife's boyfriend" with "tribune aquila"

Remember long, long, ago, when Historia Civilis covered the Battle of Alesia, where Caesar "recognized talent when he saw it," making Mark Antony his right hand man after the latter repelled a Gallic breach in the wall? Mark Antony apparently farted all that talent away in the years since

@arawn1061

3 жыл бұрын

I guess a competant officer doesn't automatically transfer to a competant general or politician

@EvilPumpkin

3 жыл бұрын

@@arawn1061 Romans were awfull negotiators and politicians by default.

@arawn1061

3 жыл бұрын

@@EvilPumpkin haha yeah that too

@patrickovsiu

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair HC quite recognized that Anthony still had the talent in this video (by declaring his final plan logically sound and valid), he just got outclassed by Octavian, whose talent was also recognized by Caesar (well, otherwise why did he write that will?)

@dimesonhiseyes9134

3 жыл бұрын

Well Antony was probably a good General. Kinda the equivalent of a full Colonel or 1 star general. Where good soldier skills are still a great asset. But anything bigger he seems to be incapable of handling. Incapable of handling future thinking and bug picture stuff.

"Antony took to heavy drinking" *box starts spinning*

30:12 - The cutest and best thing I've yet to hear ever. Please can we get more bloopers??? Your laugh is the purest thing ever!

@cyruscheng499

2 жыл бұрын

His laugh makes me wanna be pregnant 30:16

@Cubelarooso

2 жыл бұрын

@@cyruscheng499 Pronatalism is child abuse.

@antonioducc4501

Жыл бұрын

​@@cyruscheng499 ayo what????????????

"Let's go invade Parthia, it will get me far more glory than my rival's conquests" You'd think they'd have learned their lesson by now

@pooroldman5089

3 жыл бұрын

Ventidus pulled it off

@prs_81

3 жыл бұрын

@@pooroldman5089 he did not invade Parthia.

@caesarion4975

3 жыл бұрын

@@prs_81 maybe he should have

@prs_81

3 жыл бұрын

@@caesarion4975 no? That would've been a direct defiance of Antony's orders. He was no glory hound.

@GrieferStudios

3 жыл бұрын

I guess much later on Trajan managed to do it

"Antony was set on conquering Parthia" Well, I feel like if there was a map of Rome that reached out to Afghanistan I would have seen it by now so... my bet's on Parthia.

@timothymclean

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, no spoilers!

@Mrkabrat

3 жыл бұрын

Trajan would like to talk with you

@DreableNeebal10

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mrkabrat lol thank you for telling me about that

@jessep3079

3 жыл бұрын

There is! Tabula Peutingeriana

@C0NSTANTINUS

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mrkabrat Trajan never went as far as Afghanistan

“I accidentally into a triumph” - Ventidius

In defense of Antony, at least he did NOT lose his head like Crassus

@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046

3 жыл бұрын

In defense of CXrassus - He was a relatively successful person in the military b4 Carrhae - And everyone makes mistakes

@OkurkaBinLadin

2 жыл бұрын

@@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 But he lost his head. Forever.

@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046

2 жыл бұрын

@@OkurkaBinLadin LOL fair enough :)

Early to a new Historia Civillis video? Instantly a perfect day.

@shinybaldboy4384

3 жыл бұрын

Same man I just woke up

@mrmemeable546

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@jeronimojaramillo8766

3 жыл бұрын

Same here

@mikeldiaz7349

3 жыл бұрын

X2

@historygeekdude4175

3 жыл бұрын

Watching HC while waiting to be tested :D

Napoleon: and then my entire army died to the winter Anthony: first time?

@LanMandragon1720

3 жыл бұрын

Hitler furiously taking notes... for which his father punished him terribly.

@Clever_Motel

3 жыл бұрын

@@LanMandragon1720 I like to imagine there's a large circular table in hell having this conversation

@brrrrrtenjoyer

3 жыл бұрын

@Deo God said the guy who killed Hitler would go to heaven.

@irarelyupload6930

3 жыл бұрын

@Deo Where else would two warmongering dictators belong?

@adrianbundy3249

3 жыл бұрын

@@irarelyupload6930 Hitler wouldn't, that is for sure. But Napoleon did in fact, do a lot of good. His worst mistake was really his egotism, which infected him by him placing his family on positions of power as a king. As for the wars themselves, while he certainly got into enough trouble from his own machinations, you cannot think that without his input, they would not have happened, do you? The moment his nation was in chaos due to revolutionaries that were lopping off heads, and now starting to be threatened by foreign powers who's monarchies also wanted to cling to power, did not want that, so Napoleon went in and fixed what was left of both problems really. And did really help revitalize, reform, and make a lot of changes that were good enough for the populace even for a long, long time after his death. Even after winning the defensive struggles vs the outside powers, the UK and some other nations continued to push him to topple and his nation collapse, because they could not stand him making a strong France, or other reasons. And we can also track this in policy. No, they would never have left him alone, and after the fourth time proving that, Napoleon needed no further reminders. I can hardly blame him if his default set after was to try and push for ending it, and further conquest. He went aggressive. But even if he did not, it would be naive to think those enemies just sit back and do nothing for the next 20 years, or that the war does not come, when he is just a bit weaker. Do not delude yourself on Napoleon.

"... a civil war was inevitable..." Roman people: Ah shit, here we go again.

I really hope you continue the Rome series one day, I enjoy the modern era videos too, but the roman ones just hit different rip little squares

Honestly Anthony seems smart af on some issues and dumb as a rock on others. Even though he's despicable in lots of ways, I feel like he's a weirdly human character in all of this.

@canadabacon4

3 жыл бұрын

Just was NOT a tactician

@BosonCollider

3 жыл бұрын

@@canadabacon4 He was a better tactician than Octavian though. Arguably, tactics was his stronger suit, and his politics became shrewd only when Cleopatra started "helping" him. Competence level was just overall much lower in this generation than in the one before

@louie97ation

3 жыл бұрын

Some people are just incredibly specialized. Antony didn’t always play to his strengths.

@arawn1061

3 жыл бұрын

There was someone who once said Antony kinda just seems like an officer who got lucky beyond his wildest dreams

@luizamorim8265

3 жыл бұрын

He seems like a somewhat smart guy who thinks he is better than he actually is

Losing a war and then blaming the Armenians, where have I seen that one before

@canadariots1139

3 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of when nothing happened in the Ottoman Empire between the years of 1915 and 1917

@armeniaeurovision8292

3 жыл бұрын

This comment is painfully funny for me 😅

@shafqatishan437

2 жыл бұрын

The crusaders did that.

@markokrcmar5940

2 жыл бұрын

You mean after

@misaelfraga8196

2 жыл бұрын

@@shafqatishan437 no they didn't. At first they blamed the Byzantine emperor. Then king Guy. Then the emperor once again.

I've never been so excited for a next part in a series.

@ChristopherGittings

2 жыл бұрын

Same!

@bcvetkov8534

2 жыл бұрын

Dude I can't wait

@jordanmince7613

Жыл бұрын

still waiting 😅

Kinda shocking that Antony left his supply lines wide open and far apart.

The Western Empire: A perfect map The Eastern Empire: A map made by a 7 year old

@waltervanbrunchem2462

3 жыл бұрын

Probably because the borders of the west were mostly defined by rivers, contrary to the east, where there were more 'made up' borders.

@user-vz1zc3fn7o

3 жыл бұрын

@@waltervanbrunchem2462 You are seriously confusing 20th century Middle Eastern history with Ancient Middle Eastern history here.

@krankarvolund7771

3 жыл бұрын

@@waltervanbrunchem2462 Because rivers borders are totally not made up, I mean there's just thousands of rivers in Europe, it's logical to split countries following these specific rivers there :p All frontiers are made up ^^

@sunjasonjb2773

3 жыл бұрын

I think he just means that the shape of the land in general is really wonky

@HolyKhaaaaan

3 жыл бұрын

@@krankarvolund7771 Sort of. One could build bridges and ferries over rivers to push the frontier farther away if one wanted. Caesar moved into German territory once and delcared it a triumph and a Roman accomplishment of invasion. But pragmatically, it's just easier to defend territory if you stop at a river, a mountain range, or some other natural barrier to travel. North Africa and the Middle East have deserts, but those are HYUGE. A definite border is MUCH less clear along a desert than along a river or a sudden increase in evelation.

Meanwhile Lepidus is like "Beautiful weather in Carthage! Wish you guys were here! XOX"

@batavica1875

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, Lepidus is living outside of Rome because Octavian stole his territory

@Zimisce85

3 жыл бұрын

I send you my blessings guys. I am the Pontiff, after all.

Can we just take a moment to acknowledge how obnoxiously romantic it is for Antony and Cleo to name their kids The Sun and The Moon while Antony killed his wife for her?

@concept5631

Жыл бұрын

Dude was a serious simp

@doorkey73

8 ай бұрын

...You and well...everyone else have different meanings of romantic.

I think you are the most underrated of all KZread Historians.

Antony, the one person who could do a massive miscalculation out of sheer Antony things.

@arawn1061

3 жыл бұрын

The absolute state of Antony

@necfreon6259

3 жыл бұрын

And turn that miscalculation into an accidental civil war

@kleinenfuchse5365

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@necfreon6259

3 жыл бұрын

lol

It was pretty bold of Antony to try and declare Caesarion as legitimate when he still required Octavian’s cooperation to get the plan through the senate.

@thibautnarme6402

3 жыл бұрын

"Bad brain dum dum"

@gabrieldossantos1116

3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the thin line between boldness and stupidity lmao I love how it defines almost every major event in history. Crassus invading Parthia? We would remember it as a bold move had him won, but he didn't so we only remember him as a stupid guy lmao

@TheSimmr001

2 жыл бұрын

it might have been a case of "surely Octavian will see the logic behind my actions" "Antony did WHAT?!"

@basedimperialism

2 жыл бұрын

A VERY stupid politician indeed.

@carval51

2 жыл бұрын

@@thibautnarme6402 tbh I agree on that one, but why the fuck cleopatra does not stop him. she at least clever enough to understand

I may humble insist, you continue Octavians story, since I urgently need to see it told with colorful squares entirely :) Please? :D

@concept5631

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

Holy Jupiter it's so hard watching everyone's incompetence after the age of Caesar, Pompeii, Labienus, etc... When losing 3,5 legions were huge losses. I feel really bad for all the competent people like Lepidus, Sextus the BoatKing, Ventidius, etc... Atleast it's nice to know that Agrippa is super competent and Octavian gets better later on. But holy shit this is hard to watch after Caesar.

@Saurophaganax1931

11 ай бұрын

I mean… there was still plenty of incompetent people in Caesar’s time *cough* Crassus *cough* Cato *cough*. Especially Cato. God damn Cato… over 2000 years later and people still remember what a stupid, stupid, stupid ass he was.

I'm sure that Herod guy will turn out to be a nice king

@seneca983

3 жыл бұрын

Anything to the contrary is religious propaganda.

@bun197

3 жыл бұрын

@@seneca983 I made a redditor seethe lol

@seneca983

3 жыл бұрын

@@bun197 Where?

@eazyv2069

3 жыл бұрын

@@seneca983 muh

@leemarshall348

3 жыл бұрын

Herod, what a nice sounding guy. Im sure wont commit mass infanticide in hopes of killing the son of God.

I'm a bit surprised that you dedicated an entire episode to Cicero, but left out the part about Fulvia sticking golden pins into the tongue of Cicero's decapitated head and may even have been responsible for his proscription.

@necfreon6259

3 жыл бұрын

Holy sh it I love that profile pic

@JawsOfHistory

3 жыл бұрын

@@necfreon6259 Thanks!

@necfreon6259

3 жыл бұрын

@@JawsOfHistory cool beans

@JustinCage56

3 жыл бұрын

Poor old man can't catch a break

@necfreon6259

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustinCage56 ouch his own wife did that to him

The best part has to be "When he did get around to sending his legions east, it was not in the way that Antony expected!" At 13.37

@concept5631

Жыл бұрын

13:37

"You can't describe late Roman Republic politics in one sentence" Yes I can, 0:26

@spencerborg7541

3 жыл бұрын

29:54

@CaptainSully101

3 жыл бұрын

@@spencerborg7541 ohmygodyes

As soon as Antony left those supply wagons behind, I knew it was going to be a disaster for the campaign

@dvened

3 жыл бұрын

gotta go fast!

@plzitzjustmahcheezits909

3 жыл бұрын

Julianus Vatinius, am I glad to see you here

@claymeistereu

2 жыл бұрын

the chekov's supply train

@shingshongshamalama

2 жыл бұрын

Infantry wins battles. Logistics wins wars.

@interestingtimes3296

2 жыл бұрын

I mean he just gambled and got unlucky when he did that.

Crassus: I have the biggest failed invasion of Parthia Antony: Hold my toga

I love these videos more than I can really state in words. Such a digestible way of telling history, without treating me like a child and dumbing everything down. Big massive thank you!

unironically, even considering the minimalist style, the graphics and animation on these videos only continues to get better and better. the camera movement is so smooth and the tiny little animation details, like on Cleopatra's ship, are amazing

It's almost like Antony was ahead of his time in dividing the empire between west and east.. Octavian said nah

@patrickovsiu

3 жыл бұрын

IMHO had he not put Caesarion forward things might have been different. Octavian probably would not give a damn if Antony had been _more_ egotistic than he actually did and only elevate his own children. Of course, putting Caesarion forward could be Cleopatra's idea instead...

@F14thunderhawk

3 жыл бұрын

@@rin_etoware_2989 What Rome needed was to strike a balance between centralization and decentralization, something they never achieved. a Single Emperor could have handled an empire the size of Rome, if they did the US thing, and started handling the empire as separate but united kingdoms, with the Emperor's duties to handle the military and treasury while they set up provincial Senates that handle local policy, while the governors essentially handle the actual campaigns. The problem is that its very difficult to convey to People as a whole the difference between Decisive Leadership, and Wise governance.

@SimuLord

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. You can see the roots of the Byzantine Empire as far back as Pompey heading east in 49 BCE, over three centuries before Diocletian became the first to formally divide the empire.

@necfreon6259

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t you dare mention theodocious round here we are in 40 bce not random barbion sacking Rome year 5

@METALFREAK03

3 жыл бұрын

@@rin_etoware_2989 "for a realm as big as the Roman Empire, a single emperor won't be enough" The second British Empire takes notes. (Empress Victoria!)

You are literally one of the only youtubers that makes me drop everything to watch a video as soon as I see it uploaded.

I just have to say, the way you speak, the way you put it together, just everything is perfect. I get more joy out of these then actual tv shows. I'm not laughing or anything, it's literally just entertaining to listen and watch. Great job dude.

20:57 "It is at this time that Antony took to heavy drinking" Antony: *WHEEEEEEZE

@tulsatrash

3 жыл бұрын

After a trip like that I can totally understand heavy drinking.

@leemarshall348

3 жыл бұрын

Anthony Stark Stark Anthony

@sparklesparklesparkle6318

3 жыл бұрын

Vinny "SPEEEEEEEEEEEEN" came to mind

@TheSecondVersion

3 жыл бұрын

Was Antony ever NOT heavily drinking?

@cyberhikikomori5326

3 жыл бұрын

You mean ha WASN'T DRUNK during his fiasco of a consulship? Color me shocked

"It's at this time Antony took to heavy drinking" Feel like I've heard this somewhere before

@ryangrear3430

3 жыл бұрын

yea i heard that and was like "wait THIS is when it started what the hell was he doing before"

@thibautnarme6402

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryangrear3430 He was just partying, social drinking you know the amount and habit that are completely acceptable fir an elite Roman...

@ryangrear3430

3 жыл бұрын

@@thibautnarme6402 you sure I distinctly remember a certain Lupercalia festival and more importantly an number of time he walked into the senate drunk (while being Caesar’s master of horse) But yea I get what you mean it’s really bad when even his supporters are saying he is drinking excessively (actually considering his life I’m surprised gout didn’t kill him)

@kanrup5199

2 жыл бұрын

I believe one Roman general once took to heavy drinking getting besieged by rabid Egyptians...or am I mistaken?

@lonelittlejerry917

2 жыл бұрын

@@kanrup5199 precisely

God I hope you continue this series, can't go on re watching forever

Ventidius is the most baller guy I've never heard of.

The system that Antony wanted to setup in the East reminded me of how Napoleon put his family members on various European thrones.

@VAWM.

3 жыл бұрын

And it seems to have worked out about as well.

@ferrjuan

3 жыл бұрын

@Kelvin Higgs not at this level at least not until the Habsburgs when they controlled HRE, Kingdoms of Spain, Bohemia, Hungary and Naples, Low Countries, Lombardy and its colonial possessions under Charles V.

@thibautnarme6402

3 жыл бұрын

Eventually it is what happened anyway (not with his family) but Lydia, Thrace, Galatia and Pontic were all at some point headed by the same Hellenic family network under Roman 'guidance'

@hyort3613

3 жыл бұрын

Here in the Netherlands it worked too wel, Luis napoleon bonaparte ruled us from 1806 to 1810 and became so popular that some claimed he cared more about the Dutch then the French. He learned Dutch, visited disaster sites and donated money to poor and those that had suffered disaster. In one speech he even called himself “konijn van olland” which is almost the right way if saying king of holland but it actually means rabbit of olland. In 1810 he refused to give napoleon as much troops as he wanted for the russian campaign and seeing his popularity in the Netherlands Napoleon removed his brother Luis from the throne

@donrog5035

3 жыл бұрын

I respect Napoleon and I admire the guy for some of his success but put his family members on various european thrones was a DUMB move. that didn't even pay off when he was in trouble. there were no legitimacy in that. The system that Anthony wanted to make in the east was interesting but for such a huge task I think it was best for him to go in Rome to explain that himself to the senate. Maybe his plan would have been approved.

“I’m not saying there was foul play, I’m just saying Antony definitely murdered his wife” had me lose it

@dougkleen9917

3 жыл бұрын

was funny but I disagree with him as Romans divorced and remarried for alliance purposes all the time, Antony had no reason to kill his wife and he would know how it would look in Rome.

I am curious, in this video you say Venditius deserves a triumph. But in one of the Caesar videos you mentioned that to be awarded a triumph you needed to conquer territory for Rome.

Wow. This story of Anthony's retreat resembles quite like Napoleon's retreat from Russia. Retreat under attrition is a daunting circumstance.

“Antony was not a particularly deep political thinker.” We learned this years ago with his disastrous occupation of the senate while Caesar fought in North Africa

@Mikko088

3 жыл бұрын

Or how about when he lifted up a direct challenger to Octavian in his plan. I mean did he really expected that to go over smoothly?

@jacquesmesrine3244

3 жыл бұрын

Octavian simply outsmarted him. The spirit of Caesar would not allow anyone other than his legal heir to reign!

@jejeakle

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacquesmesrine3244 either way, Antony is probably my least favorite Roman politician

Anthony moves with Cleopatra's sons is something out of Crusader Kings Strategies

@patrickovsiu

3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm... how did he get the game about 2050 years early is anyone's guess

@xthief1037

3 жыл бұрын

@@patrickovsiu probably a mod

@arthurrebello919

3 жыл бұрын

He was a beta tester

@Nothing-ch3dw

2 жыл бұрын

@@arthurrebello919 He was a beta alright and he sure was testy.

Looking forward to more content! Been rewatching your entire catalog and loving it. Hope I've not missed something massive 0.o

Fantastic as expected. Always a pleasure to see a new update!

I feel like "the son of Caesar's right hand man leading a Parthian army against Rome" needs some more explaining than it gets in this video...

@renerpho

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Unfortunately the details are lost to history. We know (and he did mention this in a previous video) that Labienus was sent to Parthia to gather reinforcements. However, what happened in the years after that is a mystery.

@alanpennie8013

2 жыл бұрын

@@renerpho It's not that much of a mystery. Quintus was aligned with The Liberators and was exploiting Antony's incompetent government of The East to revive their cause. The Parthians supported him because it was pretty evident that Antony would invade Parthia if left alone. One weird detail supplied by Dio is that Quintus adopted the ironic title Parthicus (conquerer of Parthia).