"memento of his youth"? What a beautiful moment!

One can hear signs of what´s to come. It´s a hotch-potch but his obsession with sheer beauty of sound and colour are manifest. lol. Even the applause at the end is sort of in Webern-poetic style.

@plekkchand

4 жыл бұрын

hotch-potch my a**

It is indeed a pity that Webern did not publish works before the passacaglia. There are quite different works of course, but which deserve to be heard.

A very beautiful piece and have listened to this many times. It shows an inevitable early and youthful style given the musical circles he associated with. He went on to invent his own voice very soon after.

Wonderful tone poem by Anton Webern, who takes cues from Richard Strauss.

Thanks, I had never given this a proper listen and now I see how great it is.

What a beautiful music

Que coisa linda! Uma verdadeira aula de elegância sonora. Estrutura interna sem arroubos. Economia que nos satisfaz! Bravo, bravo, bravo!!!

Beautiful ! Thanks for sharing!

Absolutely beautiful, thanks for this upload.

Beautiful!

Soul-touching music

Bellissimo. Un incanto!!!

If I had to guess the composer I would have said Richard Strauss. What a difference between this early piece and his String Quartet!

The first works by Webern are really beautyfulk, in a romantic way.

@canalesworks1247

Жыл бұрын

Even mature Webern is romantic and beautiful, just in a completely different way. Think of every Webern work as something taking place on another planet, where atoality is their common musical language. In that context Webern is sweet, gentle and obsessed with the glory of pure sound...it's romantic.

AHHHH. When Webern still was tonal! Remarkable listen isn't it?

@maestroclassico5801

2 жыл бұрын

@Qerftg Shlll Haha! Do you like his later works better?

@maestroclassico5801

2 жыл бұрын

@Qerftg Shlll ahhh yes! I just don't get into atonal Webern. I didn't really understand Opus 21 as a student (I thought it was musical JACKSON POLLOCK)....I understand it a bit more now! But I yes I too greatly prefer the Late Romantics as Strauss, and of course, Mahler....who clearly DID influence Webern here. I just prefer this and the Passacaglia to Five Pieces and Op. 21. I also prefer Berg...and if he only he didn't die so young (and Webern's tragic death) I often wonder had Mahler lived 35 more years, if he maybe could have impacted Schoenberg, Webern, and Berg more.

Wow, thanks for this. I almost passed it up as most Webern is not to my liking. I love this, though .. kind of post-Mahler, with some impressionist moments. Not a "stylistic dead-end," regardless of Schoenberg's criticism (I don't care much for Schoenberg's music, either).

@johnappleseed8369

7 жыл бұрын

Webern's first two Op numbers also display a clear and obvious influence of Mahler.

@benschweitzer6307

7 жыл бұрын

Sounds more Straussian to me. The expressionist Webern is closer to Mahler than this.

Somewhat surprised that no one mentions this work being excerpted in Disney's fanfare at the beginning of their movies.

@rafaelwillems3244

Жыл бұрын

So much Disney music is Second Vienna School. RIP Frank Churchill!!

So when *was* this piece first published and performed? I will admit that, listening to it without knowing the composer, I would never have guessed Webern.

@bartjebartmans

7 жыл бұрын

First published in 1962 and performed that year in Seattle by the Philadelphia Philharmonic conducted by Ormandy.

@harryandruschak2843

7 жыл бұрын

Bartje Bartmans Thank you.

@AnthonyLeighDunstan

7 жыл бұрын

Webern didn't publish anything until after meeting Schoenberg which effectively means everything we know of Webern in the "mainstream setting" (for lack of a better term) is atonal. It wasn't until Boulez came along and headed the project that recorded ALL his works, published and unpublished, that we hear his delicate restrained romantic style before Schoenberg. Besides this, Webern only wrote some 30 works, so its easy to miss what he wrote prior to 1908 (his first opus numbered work).

@benschweitzer6307

7 жыл бұрын

Both the Op. 1 Passacaglia and the Op. 2 choral piece have key signatures, although the latter is pretty weakly in its key of G major (like Webern himself, I don't think atonal is a good description of his music).

@esejsnake1503

5 жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyLeighDunstan Correction, I believe he didn't only write 30 works - he deemed only 30 of his works worthy of publishing, and so he did. He was very concious about his choices :-)

Anton Webern:Nyári Szél-Idill zenekarra Chicagói Szimfonikus Zenekar Vezényel:Bernard Haitink

I find both opus 1 and this piece quite listenable whereas I am no longer able to consume Mahler who released three majestic symphonies 7, 8 anf 9 between 1905 and 1910.

Hmmm, it's odd people continue to want more of the same. How many other composers were there (known and unknown), besides Schoenberg and Webern, writing this type of music. So much of the same and yet you still want more. I find this an odd mindset. What place do living composers have in society today if this is the attitude? Imagine if medical practitioners or mechanics or IT professionals had the same mindset. I understand a deep seeded component of art is nostalgia, but it's also innovation - ironically Schoenberg and Webern's atonal music is nostalgic to me - time and perspective are curious phenomenons. There needs to be a healthy balance. For the moment, my feeling is it's digressed to former.

@bartjebartmans

7 жыл бұрын

Lots of people don't want innovation. They stop listening to music after 1850 or they listen to only Baroque. I know people who only listen to Medieval and Renaissance music. With popular styles it seems to be even worse. Being eclectic is probably, would be interesting research, not how most people enjoy music. I might be wrong but I doubt it.

@AnthonyLeighDunstan

7 жыл бұрын

I should add that Webern's style was already shifting toward the harmonic extremes of serialism even in this piece. Between 1904 and 1908 he was developing a much more adventurous chromatic style than his peers. To me it's perfectly natural he followed this into atonalism. As to your point, that's my feeling too. Most people want to experience music as entertainment. I also look for this at times, of course, only I enjoy Webern's String Trio as much as Puccini's Tosca because I oddly met one before the other. Music is incredibly versatile. Like all art and expression it comes down to taste - limited, narrow, broad, or extensive. It's all relative an fair enough.

@Listenerandlearner870

Жыл бұрын

@@bartjebartmans I've found that too. Some people miss out the 20th century and some the 19th as well. My favourite genre is 1850 to 1950 German and Austrian music. Much recent music is hire only sadly.

@MutantsInDisguise

9 ай бұрын

​@@AnthonyLeighDunstanas Thomas Mann said on his Doktor Faustus: music is an intellectual art. Listening to academic music is very different from listening to a pop song, because the listener has to decypher the notes and tones, whereas a pop song is easy for to swallow.

スークの「夏のおとぎ話」に似た音

Anton Webern out here looking like discount Gustav Mahler.

@catherinehamer5653

Жыл бұрын

and Paul Dukas, Strauss and Disney cartoons…..no wonder he did a complete volteface later

"He never tried to have it performed or published, but kept it as a memento of his youth." Autrement dit, il aurait très bien pu le foutre à la poubelle un jour de grosse déprime. Et nous ne l'aurions pas. Terrible à penser...

This mess was a dead end for Webern. Five years later he found his real voice.

@andrewpetersen5272

Жыл бұрын

And then it became an unlistenable hot mess.

@stephenjablonsky1941

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewpetersen5272 Like a lot of other music in the 20th century.

SAGITTARIUS

hmmm a shame he didn't continue writing in and developing this style

7 жыл бұрын

Miles Shore There are a lot of post-romantic composers, but there is only one Webern, so no, this is not a shame at all.

@miles3756

7 жыл бұрын

thanks so much for your input

7 жыл бұрын

And this work is a bit "clumsy", if you want to listen real post-romantic music, try Mahler, Bruckner, Rachmaninov, Hahn, Fauré, Dukas, R. Strauss ...

@soyoltoi

6 жыл бұрын

How is Rachmaninoff post-romantic? His music is some of the most popular in the romantic repertoire.

@LouisGuillotYT

6 жыл бұрын

Soyoko U. Rachmaninov is post-romantic

Uno strano brano, questo... Bisogna essere indulgenti con i giovani...con gli artisti che ancora non hanno trovata la loro strada... Non posso impedirmi, però, di notare qui, una sorta di distillato di molte delle cattive qualità proprie a Richard Strauss... Non si tratta di stili o di scuole... Evidentemente ci sono musicisti che (ancora?) non capisco... Anton Webern è uno di questi...

About 12 minutes too long, I'd say.

Meh.