Glenn Gould plays Bach: • Bach Partita No.6 Tocc...
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@CaptainBluebear0811 жыл бұрын
Impossible to EVER forget, when I first saw this man play on TV, back in the 80s. He became a lifelong companion, and will remain so, until the day I die. And thanks for sharing--which goes without saying.
@charlotterose6724
3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favourite Gould comments ever.
@samroth4118
2 жыл бұрын
Same here, bro
@neilmedina60968 ай бұрын
If there is such a thing as a "transport of ecstasy" Glenn is experiencing it when he plays.
@gunnarkoss926218 күн бұрын
The special Slowliness of the Berg-Sonata is just so unique and sublime, cannot find any better words for this than the notes themselves.
@kathleenmaryparker86625 ай бұрын
Not sure yet about modern classical music - but I know that if anyone is going to teach me to appreciate it, it’ll be Glenn Gould …
@juhismetalwa4503 жыл бұрын
This is magic. Nothing else.
@romulo5602 жыл бұрын
I love listening to Gould play this music even though I don't understand this music. It has no melody that I can recognize, it is so strange, it sounds like glass breaking and falling onto the floor, but somehow Glenn allows me to enjoy it immensely! I attribute this to Glenn's magical powers.
@TheYannickOne
7 ай бұрын
beauty doesn’t need to be understood. for beauty it is enough to only exist.
I believe I checked out this dvd from the library when I was around 17. Update: I'm 45 and still have the same dvd
@not2tees6 жыл бұрын
He is one of the performers whose interpretations are so strong that they tend to present utterly new aspects of music already created, so that I'm sure even the composers would be fascinated to hear them, and in Gould there is no separation between the performer and the composer, as he has rethought the music of others to such an extent that he's almost the composer of his performance. Ah well, it's magic - better to just listen.
@Opoczynski
5 жыл бұрын
Beautifully articulated. Thank you.
@user-rg5nm9jk5s
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, exactly explained
@ciararespect4296
6 ай бұрын
Don't dare compare the humble pianist to the composer. Gould was a great typist but no composer
@thefxbip3154 жыл бұрын
Astonishing Berg Sonata!Amazing Gibbons too.
@lucianovalle71783 жыл бұрын
In my opininion, this execution of the Berg's Sonata op.1 is not only the best one among all the others available by Glenn Gould: this execution is the best one in the Story! And it's really wonderful, an absolute masterpiece! Thank you for this sharing.
@kookamunga24585 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful !
@elmiramuradova5614 жыл бұрын
He is genius!!!!
@backtobach6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this upload stunning
@ronl71318 ай бұрын
Inimitable GG. Individual ideas and passions. With a powerful technique to open windows to enjoy Sound Worlds of many Composers.
@conrado16216 жыл бұрын
Glenn, pura delicadeza.
@anmarsrose3 ай бұрын
The first 4 minutes felt like my ears were being made love to. Exquisite!
@venus24184 жыл бұрын
total master
@RoccoSaviano12 жыл бұрын
Now you can see a link to the same session in which he plays Bach...thank you
@robertgift3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful. Love the view of Gould and his keyboard and conducting. Surprised the piano is not on the floor.
@deborasalgueiro37356 жыл бұрын
Adoro sua autonomia . É genuíno!
@simonaperez14758 ай бұрын
Гленн это целый мир, со своей музыкой, идеями, мыслями, чувствами… он приглашает нас в свой дивный мир
@alexisdanielvaneskeheian2127 Жыл бұрын
Muchas gracias por compartir!!!
@michaelhanrahanmoore16227 жыл бұрын
i think the gibbons pavane is without doubt one of the most profound compositions in music history. the change in key after the first few minutes is a master stroke. it changes the emotion considerably and makes the music previous to this a kind of prelude to this out pouring of feeling and expression which almost sounds romantic whereas the opening is very much a renaissance composition.
@blankname4716
7 жыл бұрын
I know! Glad someone can appreciate that. Was watching the keys closely here to see what the patterns were because they seemed simple enough but man what flavor of emotion it is.
@83mogreen
6 жыл бұрын
Pure bible, man
@alskndlaskndal
6 жыл бұрын
Gould's performance is spectacular, he makes it sound like Bach and Chopin at the same time!
@samanthayork3125
5 жыл бұрын
it's like nothing else, and the joy of watching him play it (as opposed to listening to the studio version, which is, of course, still fantastic) really does something too. like adding an extra three dimensions to what is already so highly-dimensional
@neilmedina60968 ай бұрын
With the Berg and Webern maybe Glenn is just having fun with us un-initiated. I sure wouldn't know the difference.
@fredhoupt40787 жыл бұрын
How the heck does he memorize all of that? Amazing.
@oscargranda5385
Жыл бұрын
The music Is him
@sneddley4 жыл бұрын
Looks like artificial intelligence at work: suggested video "Glenn Gould Plays Gibbons..." followed by "Baboons are not Pets!" which I also found to be moving and profound.
@genegoranov586510 күн бұрын
I'm just not ready..
@alskndlaskndal6 жыл бұрын
Oh I wish we could see the footage of the whole performance from the camera pointing down at his hands! (e.g., 1:58)
@dinsy512
5 жыл бұрын
R.D. Dragon yes, when the camera crops his hands out is very frustrating. I like the view from above at 11:50 where you see his whole frame and his hands dancing all over the keyboard. I could watch and listen to the whole performance just from that framing. It really gives you a sense of what is going on.
@phoebelinden9602
4 жыл бұрын
@@dinsy512Yes, watching his hands I can see the inversions. Retrograde inversions. Or something very like that. The camera angles can help describe the piece's structure.
@ciararespect4296
6 ай бұрын
Same. I don't wanna see hid jaw going up and down like a demented frenzied cow in a field chewing its cud
@TerryUniGeezerPeterson5 жыл бұрын
Love the random cat walk starting at 5:52
@elmiramuradova5614 жыл бұрын
Спасибо,чудесно
@Leibo077 жыл бұрын
best.
@user-ll7nx7yz4f3 жыл бұрын
Кто сказал Бога нет.. Смотрите Слушайте БЛАГОГОВЕЙТЕ...
@tsartodd2 жыл бұрын
@11:12 YOU HAD TO BE THE BIG MAN! 😁
@MrInterestingthings4 жыл бұрын
If you hear the Schonberg Suite without realizing what it is after the Byrd you realize just a little how marvelous Schonberg iz! That pf concerto ? Poor Edward Steurmann - he really loved this stuff . His programmes are completely composers who were living in his time I wonder what these Gibbons Pavane sound like on a guitar as a pianist I know those tinny chamber room keyboards of the late 16th century couldn't sustain pitches like this ...but this is the ideal music he makes out of them !Ive never heard Gibbons or Byrd in a recital programme . Pianists should start playing music the average person can like . A 3 or 4 movement Sonata is too formal . Ive seen 19th century programmes all these small trifles then a singer then a violinist and cellist then the orchestra or neighborhood quartet or trio play . Wow . Now that the average person is so poorly educated we could easily go back to this even if ther is only a single performer .
@johnnynoirman11 жыл бұрын
Can you write a playlist of these pieces your information box?
@RoccoSaviano11 жыл бұрын
I've no idea :)
@oscargranda5385 Жыл бұрын
Como se puede tocar así el piano😃😃😱😃😱
@judybond55136 жыл бұрын
Like Yehudi Menuhin, I’m at a loss on how to appreciate Schoenberg’ s music!
@willhawe6069
3 жыл бұрын
Ive tried to get my head round it for a few years and im only beginning to get it now.
@lotharlamurtra79245 ай бұрын
I never liked Berg sonata until I hear it here by Gould.
@12ghostsII6 жыл бұрын
the first piece?
@RoccoSaviano12 жыл бұрын
I don't know
@DRBiblicalMD5 жыл бұрын
This video is fine, everyone calm tf down
@user-gz2nv3ed9e4 жыл бұрын
Please let me know if you know the works number.
@Fritz_Maisenbacher6 жыл бұрын
Gibbons , apology of frustration
@joe457010 жыл бұрын
5:52 schoenberg
@tmjcbs7 жыл бұрын
He should have recorded Gibbons and Byrd just as extensively as he did with Bach, instead of just the one recording he made......
@sneddley
6 жыл бұрын
I wish he had recorded more of this music also, and it's puzzling to me that he had expressed such a dislike of so much of Mozart but recorded all the Sonatas while Gibbons, whom he said was his favorite composer, he only recorded a few pieces.
@CaptainBluebear0811 жыл бұрын
Just google "Bruno Monsangeon" and you'll find it soon.
@GRATES10 жыл бұрын
14:52 Berg
@RoccoSaviano12 жыл бұрын
Right...there's no Bach here...I forget to change title
@polgomezriquelme750510 жыл бұрын
Can somebody tell me which are the pieces he plays?
@elmiramuradova561
4 жыл бұрын
Look up,you could see
@davidjones12355 жыл бұрын
Abundant, clever clogs is not a Schonburger, it’s a Steinbeck. Now put the kettle on and make me a brew!
@pierredsa680911 жыл бұрын
thanks for this video clip. what are the name of the pieces he plays ?
@elmiramuradova561
4 жыл бұрын
You could see up to the third comment and take your answer)
@carbone195712 жыл бұрын
is the CD 318?
@sneddley
4 жыл бұрын
I read that this was in 1974, it could be CD318 but it would be after it was seriously damaged and repaired.
@abundance66926 жыл бұрын
The hostility still directed towards Schoenberg's music is difficult for me to understand. For me it's always been powerfully expressive expressionistic music - it's now over 100 years old and just as much a classic as Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, etc.and is treated as such by most educated musicians everywhere.
@zanexiao4488
6 жыл бұрын
People are still stuck with harmonic and melodic thoughts of the romantic era and incapable of realising that art music has moved on a long time ago.
@TheJerryXXX
6 жыл бұрын
I take on faith that his music is better than it sounds.
@laurenth7187
5 жыл бұрын
Because it's only noise: Give us something easy to sing to Give us something simple to cling to Something we can all understand Said the company man Oh yeah We sing
@kookamunga2458
5 жыл бұрын
I love Schoenberg because he was different and the same for Gould . Arnold Schoenberg had to wait for the world to catch up to the music . The masses were behind .
@PointyTailofSatan
4 жыл бұрын
The problem with Schoenberg's music is that he tries to extend music into atonal structure, but then sticks with Western scales, which to me makes the whole exercise pointless. I find music of people like John Cage vastly more interesting. Take this for example: kzread.info/dash/bejne/paKIxZezcty3aZs.html
@brendamoore98106 жыл бұрын
I don't know much modern atonal music but thinking I may be ready for it now - to me an important measure of any art is how well does it represent "reality" as we know it - orderly predictable music has its place but the unpredictable kind can affirm that one is not totally insane for finding "reality" to be pretty weird. My only grudge against Gould is now I'm not in love with Robert Plant any more.
@ciararespect42966 ай бұрын
He definitely didn't read music just eidetically photographed it in his memory and the music wasn't notated it was felt. Didn't like his humming though but he had to do it otherwise he couldn't play
@glennzornig49786 жыл бұрын
The camera should be on the keyboard.
@Geopholus7 жыл бұрын
Considering that Schoenberg, Webern, and Berg's music is about 100 years old, ... it is quite remarkable that the audience here, still pretty uniformly disdains it as 'modern',... random, and dissonant... (remembering my 6th grade music teacher in 1964 claiming the Beatles were doing nothing more than screaming and would be forgotten in less than a year)....wonder what she thought of 'modern music'. Contrary to Paul West's comment, I think it might be rather difficult to pull off a pseudo- 12 tone piece, if one really didn't know what one was doing,... however detecting the difference, between the Schoenberg, and the Webern , in this case could be quite difficult especially without looking at the video, and seeing the camera angle change,... on the other hand the Berg quite stands out from the other two atonalist pieces preceding it! If it wasn't supposed to be serious, Gould's histrionics, and antics at the keyboard for the 'Atonal' works would certainly compete with John Cleese doing "the Ants communicating the location of crumbs with one another" sketch , for sheer hilarity! I think Gould might even appreciate that! Now I'll have to relisten to the Gibbons again, I'll need more than a few moments for my early 20th century angst to dissipate....
@marcstoneslade
6 жыл бұрын
Geopholus The Berg sonata stands out because it is not atonal. The sonata is rooted in B minor with many chromatic extrapolations.
@veronicaconnolly4542
6 жыл бұрын
music should satisfy the mind and ear. atonality might satisfy the mind but not the ear so its not music
@morganbandy717
2 жыл бұрын
Do you find Beethoven’s Große Fuge pleasing to hear? Your answer to that question might complicate your definition of music.
@wanderlngdays
Ай бұрын
@@veronicaconnolly4542so now it’s you to decide what is music and what is not?
@benitofool8 жыл бұрын
When was this recorded?
@danielmcdonald3527
7 жыл бұрын
about 1976
@sneddley
4 жыл бұрын
listed as 1974
@normitac.53756 жыл бұрын
Really!?
@jankawiorski4 жыл бұрын
Under Gould fingers Byrd sounds like Tchaikovsky.
@dierotewand32976 жыл бұрын
are there any seasoned schönberg listeners? does it get easy? I just don't understand how can anyone enjoy such music. his verklarte nacht being one exception I personally know of, I can't tell if it's music or not.
@kookamunga2458
5 жыл бұрын
I think the further Schoenberg distanced himself from Gurrelieder the better it became . Some of the better works are Transfigured night and Five pieces for Orchestra .
@samanthayork31255 жыл бұрын
why does he have to play schoenberg right after gibbons and byrd :(
@samanthayork3125
5 жыл бұрын
good news fam, it grew on me
@charlotterose6724
4 жыл бұрын
@@samanthayork3125 In a way, you answered your own question! :)
@oucutie15 жыл бұрын
To each his own but for me not only no but HELL NO!
@Opoczynski
5 жыл бұрын
For me, HELL YES1
@Fritz_Maisenbacher6 жыл бұрын
5:52 the way Gould is playing these wonderful pieces is scandalous . Not a pianist , a fridge . Forgetting all the lyrical and emotionnal side of these romantic moments ....
@georgeholloway3981
5 жыл бұрын
The Webern is especially far from what the composer intended, if we trust the testimony of the pianist who premiered the work.
@Jalapablo7 жыл бұрын
I always thought Schoenberg sounds like arbitrary piano noodling, like something you can just make up off the cuff and 98% of most listeners wouldn't even know the difference. Of course, one would need to be a reasonably skilled pianist, but I'll bet it could be pulled off pretty convincingly.
@blankname4716
7 жыл бұрын
If you stretch your imagination to recognize the unusual musical shapes then it can be quite enjoyable and intricate. For example: I like to think that it's classical musics version of hip hop. I can see the music making gangster faces and what have you, hehe. But anyway, give it an honest try. Cause it's actually pretty hard to get it to sound like a meaningful story/dialogue when it's so dissonant. Attempt and compare.
@PointyTailofSatan5 жыл бұрын
Schoenberg, and the other Second V School composers are hacks compared to composers like John Cage, or Ryoji Ikeda. I mean, if you want to go atonal, don't go half way! Why be stuck using Western chromatic scales, when there is a world of sound sources to use?
@genegoranov5865
10 күн бұрын
I don't really understand all this, but your comment made more sense than most "sophisticated" ones here.
@Domanitaresolo10 жыл бұрын
What a waste of Gould! He could play Bach instead and i would be much better. Music isn't about MATH!! Music is something that touches you without any analysis. Stravinsky's music is modern and yet beautiful. You enjoy just by listening to it. But what do you find in THIS music except of smart formulas? nothing
@joe4570
10 жыл бұрын
stravinsky himself became a twelve tone composer
@Domanitaresolo
10 жыл бұрын
It doesn't make any difference. schoenberg himself wrote beautiful romantic pieces himself before he wrote this music.
@MrMaxroach
10 жыл бұрын
The harmony in Schoenberg is some of the most expressive ever written. If you think it's about maths, you have severely missed the point.
@Domanitaresolo
10 жыл бұрын
Maybe is compositions in free atonality are expressive. The 12 tone tow is mostly about math
@MrMaxroach
10 жыл бұрын
אברהם מילר Have you had any form of musical training? Just curious, because if you've ever studied the music, you would surely know that to be a mythicised fallacy.
@oucutie15 жыл бұрын
To each his own but for me not only no but HELL NO!
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Impossible to EVER forget, when I first saw this man play on TV, back in the 80s. He became a lifelong companion, and will remain so, until the day I die. And thanks for sharing--which goes without saying.
@charlotterose6724
3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favourite Gould comments ever.
@samroth4118
2 жыл бұрын
Same here, bro
If there is such a thing as a "transport of ecstasy" Glenn is experiencing it when he plays.
The special Slowliness of the Berg-Sonata is just so unique and sublime, cannot find any better words for this than the notes themselves.
Not sure yet about modern classical music - but I know that if anyone is going to teach me to appreciate it, it’ll be Glenn Gould …
This is magic. Nothing else.
I love listening to Gould play this music even though I don't understand this music. It has no melody that I can recognize, it is so strange, it sounds like glass breaking and falling onto the floor, but somehow Glenn allows me to enjoy it immensely! I attribute this to Glenn's magical powers.
@TheYannickOne
7 ай бұрын
beauty doesn’t need to be understood. for beauty it is enough to only exist.
Gibbons, Orlando, 1583-1625. Lord of Salisbury pavane. 4:00 Byrd, William, 1542 or 1543-1623. Galliards, keyboard instrument, MB 32b. 5:52 Schoenberg, Arnold, 1874-1951. Suites, piano, op. 25.Intermezzo 9:40 Webern, Anton, 1883-1945. Variations, piano, op. 27. 14:52 Berg, Alban, 1885-1935. Sonata, piano, op. 1.
@elmiramuradova561
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@zvezdinki7998
4 жыл бұрын
iok-1 without Bach...
@phoebelinden9602
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@dmasciare1
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@fiordisasso1633
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
I believe I checked out this dvd from the library when I was around 17. Update: I'm 45 and still have the same dvd
He is one of the performers whose interpretations are so strong that they tend to present utterly new aspects of music already created, so that I'm sure even the composers would be fascinated to hear them, and in Gould there is no separation between the performer and the composer, as he has rethought the music of others to such an extent that he's almost the composer of his performance. Ah well, it's magic - better to just listen.
@Opoczynski
5 жыл бұрын
Beautifully articulated. Thank you.
@user-rg5nm9jk5s
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, exactly explained
@ciararespect4296
6 ай бұрын
Don't dare compare the humble pianist to the composer. Gould was a great typist but no composer
Astonishing Berg Sonata!Amazing Gibbons too.
In my opininion, this execution of the Berg's Sonata op.1 is not only the best one among all the others available by Glenn Gould: this execution is the best one in the Story! And it's really wonderful, an absolute masterpiece! Thank you for this sharing.
This is beautiful !
He is genius!!!!
Thank you so much for this upload stunning
Inimitable GG. Individual ideas and passions. With a powerful technique to open windows to enjoy Sound Worlds of many Composers.
Glenn, pura delicadeza.
The first 4 minutes felt like my ears were being made love to. Exquisite!
total master
Now you can see a link to the same session in which he plays Bach...thank you
Wonderful. Love the view of Gould and his keyboard and conducting. Surprised the piano is not on the floor.
Adoro sua autonomia . É genuíno!
Гленн это целый мир, со своей музыкой, идеями, мыслями, чувствами… он приглашает нас в свой дивный мир
Muchas gracias por compartir!!!
i think the gibbons pavane is without doubt one of the most profound compositions in music history. the change in key after the first few minutes is a master stroke. it changes the emotion considerably and makes the music previous to this a kind of prelude to this out pouring of feeling and expression which almost sounds romantic whereas the opening is very much a renaissance composition.
@blankname4716
7 жыл бұрын
I know! Glad someone can appreciate that. Was watching the keys closely here to see what the patterns were because they seemed simple enough but man what flavor of emotion it is.
@83mogreen
6 жыл бұрын
Pure bible, man
@alskndlaskndal
6 жыл бұрын
Gould's performance is spectacular, he makes it sound like Bach and Chopin at the same time!
@samanthayork3125
5 жыл бұрын
it's like nothing else, and the joy of watching him play it (as opposed to listening to the studio version, which is, of course, still fantastic) really does something too. like adding an extra three dimensions to what is already so highly-dimensional
With the Berg and Webern maybe Glenn is just having fun with us un-initiated. I sure wouldn't know the difference.
How the heck does he memorize all of that? Amazing.
@oscargranda5385
Жыл бұрын
The music Is him
Looks like artificial intelligence at work: suggested video "Glenn Gould Plays Gibbons..." followed by "Baboons are not Pets!" which I also found to be moving and profound.
I'm just not ready..
Oh I wish we could see the footage of the whole performance from the camera pointing down at his hands! (e.g., 1:58)
@dinsy512
5 жыл бұрын
R.D. Dragon yes, when the camera crops his hands out is very frustrating. I like the view from above at 11:50 where you see his whole frame and his hands dancing all over the keyboard. I could watch and listen to the whole performance just from that framing. It really gives you a sense of what is going on.
@phoebelinden9602
4 жыл бұрын
@@dinsy512Yes, watching his hands I can see the inversions. Retrograde inversions. Or something very like that. The camera angles can help describe the piece's structure.
@ciararespect4296
6 ай бұрын
Same. I don't wanna see hid jaw going up and down like a demented frenzied cow in a field chewing its cud
Love the random cat walk starting at 5:52
Спасибо,чудесно
best.
Кто сказал Бога нет.. Смотрите Слушайте БЛАГОГОВЕЙТЕ...
@11:12 YOU HAD TO BE THE BIG MAN! 😁
If you hear the Schonberg Suite without realizing what it is after the Byrd you realize just a little how marvelous Schonberg iz! That pf concerto ? Poor Edward Steurmann - he really loved this stuff . His programmes are completely composers who were living in his time I wonder what these Gibbons Pavane sound like on a guitar as a pianist I know those tinny chamber room keyboards of the late 16th century couldn't sustain pitches like this ...but this is the ideal music he makes out of them !Ive never heard Gibbons or Byrd in a recital programme . Pianists should start playing music the average person can like . A 3 or 4 movement Sonata is too formal . Ive seen 19th century programmes all these small trifles then a singer then a violinist and cellist then the orchestra or neighborhood quartet or trio play . Wow . Now that the average person is so poorly educated we could easily go back to this even if ther is only a single performer .
Can you write a playlist of these pieces your information box?
I've no idea :)
Como se puede tocar así el piano😃😃😱😃😱
Like Yehudi Menuhin, I’m at a loss on how to appreciate Schoenberg’ s music!
@willhawe6069
3 жыл бұрын
Ive tried to get my head round it for a few years and im only beginning to get it now.
I never liked Berg sonata until I hear it here by Gould.
the first piece?
I don't know
This video is fine, everyone calm tf down
Please let me know if you know the works number.
Gibbons , apology of frustration
5:52 schoenberg
He should have recorded Gibbons and Byrd just as extensively as he did with Bach, instead of just the one recording he made......
@sneddley
6 жыл бұрын
I wish he had recorded more of this music also, and it's puzzling to me that he had expressed such a dislike of so much of Mozart but recorded all the Sonatas while Gibbons, whom he said was his favorite composer, he only recorded a few pieces.
Just google "Bruno Monsangeon" and you'll find it soon.
14:52 Berg
Right...there's no Bach here...I forget to change title
Can somebody tell me which are the pieces he plays?
@elmiramuradova561
4 жыл бұрын
Look up,you could see
Abundant, clever clogs is not a Schonburger, it’s a Steinbeck. Now put the kettle on and make me a brew!
thanks for this video clip. what are the name of the pieces he plays ?
@elmiramuradova561
4 жыл бұрын
You could see up to the third comment and take your answer)
is the CD 318?
@sneddley
4 жыл бұрын
I read that this was in 1974, it could be CD318 but it would be after it was seriously damaged and repaired.
The hostility still directed towards Schoenberg's music is difficult for me to understand. For me it's always been powerfully expressive expressionistic music - it's now over 100 years old and just as much a classic as Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, etc.and is treated as such by most educated musicians everywhere.
@zanexiao4488
6 жыл бұрын
People are still stuck with harmonic and melodic thoughts of the romantic era and incapable of realising that art music has moved on a long time ago.
@TheJerryXXX
6 жыл бұрын
I take on faith that his music is better than it sounds.
@laurenth7187
5 жыл бұрын
Because it's only noise: Give us something easy to sing to Give us something simple to cling to Something we can all understand Said the company man Oh yeah We sing
@kookamunga2458
5 жыл бұрын
I love Schoenberg because he was different and the same for Gould . Arnold Schoenberg had to wait for the world to catch up to the music . The masses were behind .
@PointyTailofSatan
4 жыл бұрын
The problem with Schoenberg's music is that he tries to extend music into atonal structure, but then sticks with Western scales, which to me makes the whole exercise pointless. I find music of people like John Cage vastly more interesting. Take this for example: kzread.info/dash/bejne/paKIxZezcty3aZs.html
I don't know much modern atonal music but thinking I may be ready for it now - to me an important measure of any art is how well does it represent "reality" as we know it - orderly predictable music has its place but the unpredictable kind can affirm that one is not totally insane for finding "reality" to be pretty weird. My only grudge against Gould is now I'm not in love with Robert Plant any more.
He definitely didn't read music just eidetically photographed it in his memory and the music wasn't notated it was felt. Didn't like his humming though but he had to do it otherwise he couldn't play
The camera should be on the keyboard.
Considering that Schoenberg, Webern, and Berg's music is about 100 years old, ... it is quite remarkable that the audience here, still pretty uniformly disdains it as 'modern',... random, and dissonant... (remembering my 6th grade music teacher in 1964 claiming the Beatles were doing nothing more than screaming and would be forgotten in less than a year)....wonder what she thought of 'modern music'. Contrary to Paul West's comment, I think it might be rather difficult to pull off a pseudo- 12 tone piece, if one really didn't know what one was doing,... however detecting the difference, between the Schoenberg, and the Webern , in this case could be quite difficult especially without looking at the video, and seeing the camera angle change,... on the other hand the Berg quite stands out from the other two atonalist pieces preceding it! If it wasn't supposed to be serious, Gould's histrionics, and antics at the keyboard for the 'Atonal' works would certainly compete with John Cleese doing "the Ants communicating the location of crumbs with one another" sketch , for sheer hilarity! I think Gould might even appreciate that! Now I'll have to relisten to the Gibbons again, I'll need more than a few moments for my early 20th century angst to dissipate....
@marcstoneslade
6 жыл бұрын
Geopholus The Berg sonata stands out because it is not atonal. The sonata is rooted in B minor with many chromatic extrapolations.
@veronicaconnolly4542
6 жыл бұрын
music should satisfy the mind and ear. atonality might satisfy the mind but not the ear so its not music
@morganbandy717
2 жыл бұрын
Do you find Beethoven’s Große Fuge pleasing to hear? Your answer to that question might complicate your definition of music.
@wanderlngdays
Ай бұрын
@@veronicaconnolly4542so now it’s you to decide what is music and what is not?
When was this recorded?
@danielmcdonald3527
7 жыл бұрын
about 1976
@sneddley
4 жыл бұрын
listed as 1974
Really!?
Under Gould fingers Byrd sounds like Tchaikovsky.
are there any seasoned schönberg listeners? does it get easy? I just don't understand how can anyone enjoy such music. his verklarte nacht being one exception I personally know of, I can't tell if it's music or not.
@kookamunga2458
5 жыл бұрын
I think the further Schoenberg distanced himself from Gurrelieder the better it became . Some of the better works are Transfigured night and Five pieces for Orchestra .
why does he have to play schoenberg right after gibbons and byrd :(
@samanthayork3125
5 жыл бұрын
good news fam, it grew on me
@charlotterose6724
4 жыл бұрын
@@samanthayork3125 In a way, you answered your own question! :)
To each his own but for me not only no but HELL NO!
@Opoczynski
5 жыл бұрын
For me, HELL YES1
5:52 the way Gould is playing these wonderful pieces is scandalous . Not a pianist , a fridge . Forgetting all the lyrical and emotionnal side of these romantic moments ....
@georgeholloway3981
5 жыл бұрын
The Webern is especially far from what the composer intended, if we trust the testimony of the pianist who premiered the work.
I always thought Schoenberg sounds like arbitrary piano noodling, like something you can just make up off the cuff and 98% of most listeners wouldn't even know the difference. Of course, one would need to be a reasonably skilled pianist, but I'll bet it could be pulled off pretty convincingly.
@blankname4716
7 жыл бұрын
If you stretch your imagination to recognize the unusual musical shapes then it can be quite enjoyable and intricate. For example: I like to think that it's classical musics version of hip hop. I can see the music making gangster faces and what have you, hehe. But anyway, give it an honest try. Cause it's actually pretty hard to get it to sound like a meaningful story/dialogue when it's so dissonant. Attempt and compare.
Schoenberg, and the other Second V School composers are hacks compared to composers like John Cage, or Ryoji Ikeda. I mean, if you want to go atonal, don't go half way! Why be stuck using Western chromatic scales, when there is a world of sound sources to use?
@genegoranov5865
10 күн бұрын
I don't really understand all this, but your comment made more sense than most "sophisticated" ones here.
What a waste of Gould! He could play Bach instead and i would be much better. Music isn't about MATH!! Music is something that touches you without any analysis. Stravinsky's music is modern and yet beautiful. You enjoy just by listening to it. But what do you find in THIS music except of smart formulas? nothing
@joe4570
10 жыл бұрын
stravinsky himself became a twelve tone composer
@Domanitaresolo
10 жыл бұрын
It doesn't make any difference. schoenberg himself wrote beautiful romantic pieces himself before he wrote this music.
@MrMaxroach
10 жыл бұрын
The harmony in Schoenberg is some of the most expressive ever written. If you think it's about maths, you have severely missed the point.
@Domanitaresolo
10 жыл бұрын
Maybe is compositions in free atonality are expressive. The 12 tone tow is mostly about math
@MrMaxroach
10 жыл бұрын
אברהם מילר Have you had any form of musical training? Just curious, because if you've ever studied the music, you would surely know that to be a mythicised fallacy.
To each his own but for me not only no but HELL NO!