Barry Altschul -- an underrated drummer from this period. He could swing and play free while giving empathic support for soloists and ensemble. You don't play with Dr. Anthony Braxton if you're a drudge. (Michael Cuscuna was an angel to sign Braxton to the major label Arista in the 70s with some classic albums resulting -- including one with material from this concert.)

@jonathanedwards8696

6 ай бұрын

As a young drummer in the early 70s, Barry was one of my favorites. It wasn't until the late 80s that I got to see him perform. It was in Cambridge. Trombonist Ray Anderson was there but I forget who thesax player and the bass player were.

I was there in 1975 squatting the Continental Hôtel. Braxton was a revelation. And Bill Evans, Charles Mingus, Gerry Mulligan, Dizzy Gillespie and friends jamming late at night. Mémorable.

@jsiron6

2 жыл бұрын

Same memory

@stevegove-humphries7896

3 ай бұрын

So jealous. I am a particular fan of Kenny Wheeler & Dave Holland ( the boy from Wolverhampton) who played often in Birmingham ( England ) & whose double bass I stored in my hallway when he came over to Birmingham for a series of concerts. Saw Mr Braxton 3 or 4 times when he did a tour of England. And Kenny was such a nice man. And a supreme composer & player.

for the record, this is Composition 40M. in Braxton's Composition Notes, reproduced in Graham Lock's "Forces in Motion" (New York, Da Capo Press, 1988), Composition 40M is described as "Fast tempo line over bass vamp" (this is on p. 343). Whereas Composition 23E is described as "Slow to very fast pulse line" (p. 337); in this case the horns play a slow, rubato line while the rhythm section starts out very slowly and gradually becomes quite frenetic. further, the "opus" numbers (i.e., the composition numbers) in the Mosaic set, which Michael Cuscuna prepared working closely with Braxton, bear this out. (it's confusing on the Arista albums because Braxton hadn't started publishing the composition numbers yet.)

@halcharles9995

3 ай бұрын

You're quite right, this is Comp. 40M. FWIW though the description you cite from Lock is just the catalog(ue) of works, not the Composition Notes as such (which are MUCH longer and more detailed)

Saw Braxton and Holland live as a duo at around this time period. They did this piece with Bass and Contrabass Saxophone - slowly!

Ever since first heard this piece some 45 years ago, the head was etched into my ganglia to the point that I would occasionally find myself singing it while doing mundane things - even after not hearing it for decades. Folks would ask what I was humming...

@jedwing

3 жыл бұрын

SAME HERE! It's one of his hits!

Every single Dave Holland solo I have heard always blows the audience away!

@sterlingweston

2 жыл бұрын

The theme/head to this tune is exactly what I think your name refers too. absolute MONSTER JAZZ LICK!!!

@monsterjazzlicks

2 жыл бұрын

@@sterlingweston ha ha, what an analogy!

@michaelhoffman5486

9 ай бұрын

cause dave is a god of the bass

@stevetimm6773

7 ай бұрын

When I saw this group (in Minneapolis), his bass was bouncing on the stage during his solos

I'd kill to see these guys again...

I thikn that Wheeler's solo'd deserve more praise :)

Christ, Dave Holland is just formidable on this one (well, always). His walking lines swing like fuck, and technique in his solo is just scary-good. What a player!

What a Rhythm section Dave Holland and Barry Altschul were! Anthony Braxton as always is mindblowing! Kenny Wheeler is great on Trumoet.

I was there!!! What a Concert!!!

@tomd3098

5 жыл бұрын

Wow, really?! How was it? Did you get to speak to the band after?

@monsterjazzlicks

4 жыл бұрын

Did they only play this one tune?

@jfblanc3618

3 жыл бұрын

a big shit

@WeyrdSonRecords

3 жыл бұрын

@@monsterjazzlicks yeah, these killer musicians went to Montreux Festival to play a 8 min tune only............................................. (DUH)

@monsterjazzlicks

3 жыл бұрын

@@WeyrdSonRecords Horrible attitude towards this community.

U lucky bastard!!! One year before I was born!!

This was a FANTASTIC group. Those Arista albums 1971-1976 - wow. Good to see these guys at their prime ... young. CIRCLE was a great group, too - sub out Wheeler for Chick Corea. Like Eric Dolphy, Braxton played/excelled on several horns. After 1979 or so, I was only occassionally interested - when he did an album like "Six Compositions", for instance.

@tonymostromable

3 жыл бұрын

Did Derek Bailey ever play w Circle?

@brianhammer5107

3 жыл бұрын

@@tonymostromable he was never a member and no album releases have Bailey on them - as to whether he ever had a jam with Circle - who knows?

@1adneumann

Жыл бұрын

I agree.... There WERE the peak years.

Formidable band with an open sound like Ornette’s.

Such an insanely brilliant quartet!

man that bass sound, pretty heavy

Great music played by a great lineup.

One of my most favourite ensembles of all time. Many thanks!

So interesting to hear Kenny's gorgeous tone, particularly on flugelhorn deployed on music this, uh, "astringent".

New York in the fall is a beauty as well as this.....

@jfblanc3618

3 жыл бұрын

vieillerie qui nous casse les oreilles depuis 80 ans

So Happening Swinging in an original way. My generation. Still holds up. Great Music

Thanks for the upload... This is beautiful music !

Just amazing playing... thanks for uploading this beauty.

Dave Holland is the man! Watch him play at the Isle of White with Miles if you doubt that.

@brianhammer5107

5 жыл бұрын

LOL! It's the "Isle of Wight" ... yankee.

@monsterjazzlicks

4 жыл бұрын

Is it not 'aisle'?

@monsterjazzlicks

4 жыл бұрын

Or even I'll?

i saw this line up at the Painted Bride Art Centre in Philadelphia - a long interview was in the Philly Inquirer. Great link - powerful

This is a great excerpt - thanks for sharing. I was revisiting AB's Montreux/Berlin concert album (Arista) today and recall how it really opened up my ears to a really high level of ensemble playing and improvisation when I first listened to it in 1991. Braxton and cohorts Wheeler, Altschul, and Holland were intrepid sonic explorers on that magnificent album.

This is the best

still love it!!

Fantastic.

Very good !

Wow! From "Five Pieces 1975", which may have been the first jazz album I bought.

@emilianoturazzi

5 жыл бұрын

not bad as first album... I don't remember mine, but I wa luck: I had my father's library...mostly New Orleans Jazz, but also modern jazz, especially late hard bop and free. and classical, too, not too muc, but I provided it :)

Wow... 9 dislikes... Go listen to Perry Como... (Sorry... "No slight to Mr. Como') Superb line up... Anything D. Holland and K. Wheeler are on is usually GREAT!!! Braxton= A brilliant explorer!

Mind blowing!

@jfblanc3618

3 жыл бұрын

au lieu de nous les gonfler, il ferait mieux de nous les vider...

All...stars!!!

Wonderfull "freebop".

@jfblanc3618

3 жыл бұрын

grosse merde, attention ou on marche

que viagem irmao

i just love how most of these musicians are had been played together since chick corea's circle lol

Ovo je muzika....breeee.....!!!!!!!..... Awsome.....

This is the Braxton Group that's most important. Wheeler!!! Holland!!!Altschule!!!

@CF127

5 жыл бұрын

and George Lewis

@tonymostromable

3 жыл бұрын

...did Derek Bailey ever play w them ?

kenny wheeler running out of breath from that diabolical head lol

@Sisyphus_But_On_Guitar

2 жыл бұрын

I need some diabolical head rn

@ianscarlett6884

Жыл бұрын

@@Sisyphus_But_On_Guitar "I need some diabolical head rn" ~mingus, 'Devil Woman'

Braxton first great quartet !!!

Classic band

Braxton and Wheeler RIP

@justinreich5073

6 жыл бұрын

Braxton's still alive.

Kenny on 🔥

remembers

Fuck, Dave Holland is amazing.

Fierce

This is Opus 23E, not 40M. Great upload and recording regardless!

can't find five pieces album(

Unbelievable

Utterly fabulous, even with that horrific piezo bass tone.

Most folks don't know that chick corea could've been the foremost avant garde anyway never mind.

@tomd3098

5 жыл бұрын

Didn't he have that group, Circle, with Braxton? Can't remember who else was in it.

@crownpropeller

5 жыл бұрын

Circle = Braxton, Corea, Barry Altschul, Dave Holland

@tomd3098

5 жыл бұрын

I'm drooling just reading the lineup!

@brianhammer5107

5 жыл бұрын

He explored it, then moved to another area. It wasn't really his deep artistic motivation - he was too lyrical.

@horowizard

5 жыл бұрын

@@brianhammer5107 It might have been Chick that was quoted as saying that they call it Free Music because nobody ever got paid! When he formed Return To Forever he made it a point to write down every note he wanted to hear the musicians play. Then Light As A Feather exploded in the success that it became and he never looked back.

What a great clip ! Is there more from that concert ?

@crownpropeller

8 жыл бұрын

+CovertKeller There may well be more - but not in my collection, sorry.

@CovertKeller

8 жыл бұрын

+crownpropeller Thanks for this one, and thank you for answering

@crownpropeller

8 жыл бұрын

+CovertKeller you're welcome!

@tomd3098

6 жыл бұрын

You might be familiar with the Dortmund recordings of 1976 already - same lineup, but with George Lewis on trombone instead of Kenny Wheeler's trumpet. If not, highly recommended listening!

Love this tune. What's the name?

@juliusseizure591

3 жыл бұрын

Composition 23E

unremarkable

Do you have the entire concert? If so, PLEASE upload it as I would love to see it! Thanks ;-)

@jfblanc3618

3 жыл бұрын

Et apres cette merde, tu pue pendant six mois

@monsterjazzlicks

3 жыл бұрын

@@jfblanc3618 Can you please send this in English? Thanks.

@rinahall

3 жыл бұрын

@@monsterjazzlicks google trad = friend

@monsterjazzlicks

3 жыл бұрын

@@rinahall I have no idea what you are referring to?

@rinahall

3 жыл бұрын

@@monsterjazzlicks you are a crook fan

It sounds to me like this piece is from "Five Pieces" album and is called "BOR----H (Opus 23E)", not "Composition 40M"

@senorton

2 жыл бұрын

@Forgotten Computer - close! this IS "BOR---H (etc.)", but that piece IS Composition 40M, not 23E. composition 23E is the long piece which starts slowly, right before 40M on the "Five Pieces 1975" LP.

The drums control the Swing time in Jazz. All the other musicians must lock in perfectly with the drummers time. If the Bassist cant lock in he better be looking right at the drummer and following his time until they are together. Drums have the Power.

@jfblanc3618

3 жыл бұрын

cons men ! big caca

anyone have a chart for that line?

@senorton

Жыл бұрын

yes, i do.

@sterlingweston

6 ай бұрын

@@senortonshare it then pal

@senorton

5 ай бұрын

@@sterlingweston can do. what's the best way?

Braxton on sax - for those who don't care about tone.

3 people voted this video down because they hate genius. LOL

@alexanderraevsky3207

5 жыл бұрын

Already 9.

@mexufo

4 жыл бұрын

3 assholes voted this video down, no music understanding.

@YaoEspirito

4 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderraevsky3207 There are a lot of Lil Nas X fans out there. True genius goes underappreciated.

@AaaAaa-mh6zv

Жыл бұрын

@@YaoEspirito I think there is no reason to play people who make such different music out against others. It is possible to enjoy people like Lil Nas X and Anthony Braxton at the same time.

la cacophonie habituelle. Et il y en a qui s'extasient ! !

@rinahall

3 жыл бұрын

le plus grand escroc du ''jazz'' et depuis 60 ans ! Les gens sont des malades !

Jazz is just a bunch of fast note and banging noise. real players play tastefully..

a band? what band? I hear oxen making the usual noise. And the oxen admire!

Not really musical except for the bass playing.

@LOS_NEGRITOS

12 күн бұрын

you mean they playing a long complex sequence of notes clearly planned and writen on sheets AND doing solo chops in between AND keeping both swing and rhythm going on is 'not really musical'? jesus christ.

@joksal9108

12 күн бұрын

@@LOS_NEGRITOS Like I said, not musical. Bass player is good.

@LOS_NEGRITOS

12 күн бұрын

@@joksal9108 i mean if music for you isnt related to composition, improvisation nor rhytmical foundations then, first off, yes, this isnt music and second, what a horrible concept of 'music' you have, lol.

Absolutely no interplay between the bassist and drummer. The drummer fails to interact in rhythm with what is happening in the head. The head is where you can compose some rhythms to support various formations as acted out by the other pieces of the ensemble here. Too bad there is no group dynamics.

@yoshiwall5870

2 ай бұрын

Cringe

Awful amplified bass sound! And Braxton is badly overrated; his sound is ugly!

@emilianoturazzi

7 жыл бұрын

I agree on his sound (and on his vibrato, too), but he is a clever musician and can get it work all the same. sometimes he plays very, very well. few musicians are able to obtain such good performance even if they are not excellent instrumentalists - I think this is more important...

@ericmalone3213

7 жыл бұрын

Please introduce us to your original & outstanding music, Sir, if you're going to slight the work of Mr Braxton. I'm very interested to hear what you've accomplished that qualifies your criticism. Cheers. Thank you.

@emilianoturazzi

6 жыл бұрын

I really can't understand this kind of arguments... it doesn't fit nothing with what the other one said just intending to put him down on a personal level. One can be a good listener without being a good player. or being a good musician without being a virtuoso (Braxton's case to me) or being a good musician giving bad evalutations (see Miles Davis' on lots of his collegues ).

@wbhrash

5 жыл бұрын

You like what you like for whatever reasons.

@RanBlakePiano

3 жыл бұрын

And hear his solo on Round midnight