Thanks for the hilarious poem about Tom Bombadil's boating adventure.

Hypothesis: Cirdan's beard is a special blessing from Aule and/or Ulmo for being such a cool shipwright. ;) PS: For the next time: Katarzyna is just Kate. And just like Elves, I'm all for translating names. Use any form you like. :)

@John-Sierra

3 ай бұрын

Ok, I'll stick to Kate, I'm sure I butchered it anyway.

A paasage in the silmarilian mentions the immortality of elves, "For the Elves die not til the world dies, unless they are slain or waste in grief… neither does age subdue their strength, unless one grow weary of ten thousand centuries." Does this not imply that elves will die after 1 million years? I guess it could mean that they grow weary after that long, not necessarily die...

@John-Sierra

3 ай бұрын

I think it's saying that it would take that long for them to feel their age - to feel the soreness and tiredness and weakness of age. Tolkien never really said what exactly happens to the elves when the world goes - they're bound to it, but so are the Valar - and it was certainly suggested the Valar would survive the armageddon (with some versions even having Túrin join their ranks) but the elves? I'd like to think they'd be reborn as mortals, but Tolkien was very tight lipped about their eventual final fate.

@matttyree1002

3 ай бұрын

@John-Sierra I appreciate the quick response! To me, I've always thought that ten thousand centuries just seemed like an unfathomable amount of time to tolkein, so he may as well have said a zillion years. The ages of arda were always in the thousands of years. We have the benefit if hindsight nowadays, with out estimation if earth being 4 billion years old. But in tolkeins day that wasn't a known value, so a million was a much larger number to him I think

@John-Sierra

3 ай бұрын

You'd be surprised - Tolkien was aware of the long age of the earth and things like dinosaurs and such - which he referred to as "the new mythology" I think it's just an unfathomable amount of time in the way that we can't imagine a person living that long, and not becoming old or tired until such a long time has passed. Tolkien's point with the elves was very much that immortality is a burden, that after all that time they're going to want to die and pass from the circles of the world like mortals do - he said even the Valar will envy the gift of men.

(Agata) Pasieczna = pa-Siyetsh-naa (means: "apiarian (f)" in English - you could use the English translation, I would recognize it ;-) )

@John-Sierra

2 ай бұрын

I will do my best!

Hai