Answering a frequently asked question... | Why I use 27" triple monitors for Sim Racing?

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I have been asked this question more times than I care to remember, so I thought I would share my thought process for choosing the right monitor size for my triple monitor sim racing setup.
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  • @arthurdaley1124
    @arthurdaley11242 жыл бұрын

    The voice of reason. Been telling the wife for years that bigger isn't always better.

  • @davecamm

    @davecamm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too 😁

  • @NVidiero

    @NVidiero

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe she already wants triples, be carefull :D

  • @OCRacing

    @OCRacing

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NVidiero @arthur you two are legends 😂💀

  • @Swift41

    @Swift41

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NVidiero OH GOD LMFAO knew that was coming lol

  • @tonywilliams4223

    @tonywilliams4223

    2 жыл бұрын

    At least she still married you

  • @SimRacersArms
    @SimRacersArms2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for taking the time to put this together, great to hear your thought process and makes complete sense to me as I have limited space also. 👍🏁

  • @ronknox3376
    @ronknox33762 жыл бұрын

    I'm just setting up my first rig with a triple monitor stand. This is great information! Thank you for sharing the what and the why. Cheers

  • @Lynski1983
    @Lynski19832 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been looking for a video similar to this, been struggling to decide on screen size. Pretty much made my mind up now. Cheers Dave 👍

  • @Dysert91
    @Dysert912 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Dave! I've been waiting for this video. Seems like the 27" monitors are the best middle of the road for screen size, unless you want to go big. You have definitely helped me to make a decision on my monitor upgrade.

  • @kindnuguz
    @kindnuguz2 жыл бұрын

    so glad you did 27 inch 1440p , it is the sweet spot and I hope this shows more sim racers that 27 inch is all you need for triples.

  • @markbagley9194
    @markbagley91942 жыл бұрын

    Many thanks for putting this video together Dave. Very informative. I thought you'd never do it, you teased us way before Christmas when you first got the new monitors!

  • @lovemyevo4
    @lovemyevo42 жыл бұрын

    This is insanely crazy as I was watching your other channel earlier of a race at Snetterton 200 and I wondered this exact question 🤯

  • @MrTurbine777
    @MrTurbine777 Жыл бұрын

    Great information here that's still, and always will have the most important information for those triple screening. Prices change on monitors and new GPU's come out that can pump more pixels, but in my opinion, the MOST important decision in going with a multi monitor setup (simming, gaming or productivity) is the footprint. My first triple setup was with a Matrox G400 using a Matrox Trip2Go unit decades ago with 26" screens. Much later I had built a very expensive 744 (way before it was common, and using Epic cards and Epic programming). It was 2002 and I had $1400 in Project Magenta software to mimic the instruments with only open sky on the projector screens. Now, I love my HP Reverb G2, but just got back into triples. I have three 4k Samsung 28" Odyssey G70A's. Keeps me under 5' wide on my rig which is a must. Having them just like you do, right over my yoke and so close to my face I can appreciate my 4k screens detail. What got me back into 3 screening was I helped a friend get three 55" Oled TV's going on his setup. Both of us are more into aviation sims. I loved it, but his screens have to be far away. That wasn't on my mind at the time, but weeks late, on my one 28" 4k Odyssey G70A, I was practically drooling at the detail. So much more crisp and detailed on my 28" Computer monitors than his 4k Oleds (I love my 65" Sony Bravia Oled for movies and gaming from afar), plus they're right in front of me so I see soooooo much more than anyone with larger anythings. For those interested, I have a 3090 Ti, and I do not run all three in 4k, nor do I run them all at 144hz. I run only the center screen at 4k and the two sides at 1440. Sometimes all three at 1440 due to my beast of a comp screaming. My room gets way too hot and the drop doesn't look any different to me on the side screens, and never notice when all three are at 1440. Had I to do it over again, I would have bought 3 1440 native monitors. I went this route because I already had one of them. Flight simmers that use other screens for their replica pits, such as even Winwings awesome F18 Top Gun Mip that uses three USB 3 screens, need to know that all of these things with resolutions will demand a ton. Even a 4090 trip screens on 4k isn't worth the tradeoff to me for the added heat in the room for 4k vs 2k. Dropping a 4k monitor to 2k gets lots of flak saying it's blurry is nonsense in my experience (since 2k is a fine ration drop from 4k), but having native 2k screens with 240hz refresh for other games would be my choice now since as I said, 4k in MSFS vs 2k isn't worth the tradeoff.

  • @enner-racing
    @enner-racing2 жыл бұрын

    thx Dave for sharing your thinking process. I also went to 27“ tripple setup . for me the footprint of the rig was same important. I even run 1080p only and for my eyes it is good enough pixel density and my GPU is happy as well not being forced to generate too much of those pixels ;) .. cheers

  • @wegpiraatjochem

    @wegpiraatjochem

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes 1080p is just fine for 27° id say, if you go bigger than that you need 1440p

  • @jericosha2842

    @jericosha2842

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad to see others happy with 1080p. I decided to go 1080p because I would rather upgrade my graphics card in the future to get maximum frames with high graphics settings than feel forced to run at a native 2k.

  • @bjornna7767

    @bjornna7767

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jericosha2842 Also higher than native resolutions can do the trick with 1080p monitors and/or Anti Aliasing plus sharpening stuff on top (reshade), but well with 24"ers you would need to come closer to your screens in order to have a 1:1 feeling like in real, which in turn would make the pixel density more visible. I would definitely go for 27"ers.

  • @ligapersada4793

    @ligapersada4793

    Жыл бұрын

    What gpu you use for your triple setup? Does it get decent fps?

  • @enner-racing

    @enner-racing

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ligapersada4793 iam running a rtx2080 and have very decent framerate in iracing

  • @SeaLion8488
    @SeaLion84882 жыл бұрын

    Great video thanks Dave. Very helpful!

  • @richardcook9606
    @richardcook96062 жыл бұрын

    Always great to hear your thoughts on hardware and rigs! I enjoyed my 27 inch but going triple with the current setup isn’t achievable! I would happily go back now I have tried some bigger single screens and a small ultra wide! Trying to do it on a budget is challenging but quite enjoyable!

  • @herculesmorse9526
    @herculesmorse95262 жыл бұрын

    Good vid Dave thank you. One thing I couldn’t see was whether the cord coming out of your wheel is also clipped secondarily to the back of the wheel to take tension off of the wheel side plug. Wires breaking inside the plug housing after a number of months are/were a common issue for these connections (happened to me too) if not secured that way. Lots of vids on it if my description isn’t clear ! Cheers.

  • @SN3Gaming_
    @SN3Gaming_2 жыл бұрын

    As someone who is starting to get into sim racing and has a small space available in a townhouse, this was a great reference point for monitor size. Thank you

  • @Bob-huisbaas
    @Bob-huisbaas2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Dave, i will go for 27's when i go for a rig. Happy with VR for Iracing now!

  • @FoxRob93
    @FoxRob932 ай бұрын

    Great video, Dave. I have been considering making the move to triple screens.

  • @ThexGreatxLTS
    @ThexGreatxLTS2 жыл бұрын

    Love the content Dave, running a 34" ultrawide currently but hope to make the switch to triples when my work space allows for it!

  • @mikeross7377

    @mikeross7377

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's what I run too...I love it! BUT, triples...that's the way to go

  • @eversharpaudio8757

    @eversharpaudio8757

    2 жыл бұрын

    Running that too! Suits me fine, looking into head tracking software at the mom

  • @michaeljohn3559
    @michaeljohn35592 жыл бұрын

    27's are all i have ever run for years and as said they are the perfect size, won't break the bank for a decent set of them and and the FOB allows you to stay pretty close not taking up any more room then a rig already takes up. Good video.

  • @JorgeTuga
    @JorgeTuga2 жыл бұрын

    I totally agree, bigger is not necessarily better. It has a lot to do with what we want and can have in our room/wallet. I would just make a change to your rig, I'd cover it up like a dome. The immersion is perhaps greater that way. No 'distractions' behind the monitors.

  • @John-ok8ts
    @John-ok8ts2 жыл бұрын

    If both monitors have the same res a larger monitor just allows you to place it further away and get the same pixel density and fov. 27 inch monitors are fine but you need them close to your eyes which can give people eyestrain and obv requires then to be above the wheel base.

  • @matk4731
    @matk47312 жыл бұрын

    I do like your set up. Your not half wrong with what you’re saying. I didn’t end up going with triples I ended up with a 32’’ curved with TrackIR. It’s all about space & what you are willing to spend. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻🙃🙃

  • @SCFCJack14

    @SCFCJack14

    2 ай бұрын

    Can I ask what the width of this set up is? I know its been 2 years, but I can't seem to find an answer

  • @Dynamite_H
    @Dynamite_H2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Dave, love every single video you make, congrats! Could you share the actual distance between monitor, heights, angles etc in order to put my setup like yours? Looks incredible fine!

  • @intensify4521
    @intensify45212 жыл бұрын

    Hi Dave, thanks for the great videos you make. I noticed you went from a VA panel to a IPS panel. Can you comment on your impressions of the change in decreased motion blur, but decrease in contrast ratio? (I've read that blacks aren't as great)

  • @stuartgibson9755
    @stuartgibson9755 Жыл бұрын

    Good advice Dave. I'm just getting into sim racing. Triple 27's fit on my desk perfectly. I don't have room for a dedicated rig. I've got a new PC on order with an RTX 3070 to push the pixels around. Subbed

  • @davecamm

    @davecamm

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Stuart 😁

  • @stormforce9521
    @stormforce95212 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree with you Dave , I run with 27" and find them perfect.

  • @jonboy2950
    @jonboy29502 жыл бұрын

    Your rig set up looks awesome Dave

  • @deskane8757
    @deskane8757 Жыл бұрын

    Yep just done the same mate and gone back to 27” Triples 👍🏻

  • @Kozi03
    @Kozi032 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another great video. I must say are we dancing around a video on your..... cabling?

  • @davecamm

    @davecamm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Leave my cables alone. They are perfect in their own little way 😁

  • @rmstigerfan
    @rmstigerfan2 жыл бұрын

    I agree with Dave 27 is a great size. Going any bigger and you are just going for the wow factor as you are just seeing things that don't matter inside the car. I went with 1080p monitors about 3-4 years ago as my 1070 could run it fine but I wasn't going to be getting enough power to warrant 144hz/1440p

  • @TheMrKarolus

    @TheMrKarolus

    Жыл бұрын

    So you run 3x 144hz on 1070 on what sim? I want to go with the same setup but Im not sure if my computer will handle this.

  • @dlerman66
    @dlerman662 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always Dave, thank you. Any thoughts on IPS vs VA panels? (Not high end monitors though)

  • @dylan538
    @dylan5382 жыл бұрын

    Currently running a dual monitor 27inch setup (center and right screen for a full dash view) while I save dosh for number 3. 27inches is absolutely a sweet spot without taking up a full room of space

  • @bitemefoker
    @bitemefoker Жыл бұрын

    i would love to see some one with a setup up with a wide monitor in the middle with 2 normal sized ones on the side... or even if the middle one was a wide curved with 2 regular monitors on the side

  • @rubik224
    @rubik2242 жыл бұрын

    I just got triple 1440p 27" 165hz recently too from Dell. Really enjoying it :)

  • @cv8831
    @cv88312 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again Dave - what angle are you running the side screens at? Mine are at 52 degrees and they look tighter than that

  • @samcope4265
    @samcope42652 жыл бұрын

    loved this video and what i've been waiting for, is there any reason why you wouldn't have curved monitors instead of flat? Thanks

  • @Melzasx

    @Melzasx

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm also interested on this question. I got triple 27 curved (C27G1, 1800R). Any advise or guide for perfectly setup it will be very welcome received.

  • @gregvandy8902
    @gregvandy89022 жыл бұрын

    I agree with you 100 percent. I run triple Dell 2721dgf which is 1440p 165hz and they're beautiful.

  • @ksazubbie

    @ksazubbie

    Ай бұрын

    Digging up a buried post here. Are you still running your Dell monitors? Are those flat? I'm looking at the 2722 version, they've got a slight curve to them, wondering if flat would be better

  • @huntermd3407
    @huntermd34072 жыл бұрын

    Any chance on letting us know what your gorpo settings are? Looks great! Also, great video as usual!

  • @sock2070
    @sock20702 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Dave, I think I'm going to take the plunge with triple monitor this year! What's the angle you have them at? I have 1200mm Pro Sim monitor mount and I figure if I use 3x 28" monitors then it'll come out to about the same width if I use 45 degrees (my current 28" is 600mm across) but would 45 degrees be too tight?

  • @MikeBoire
    @MikeBoire2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Dave great video! I also have triple screens but they are curved. Why do you like flat screens? Another benefit to 27 inch screens is that its easier on your graphics card for rendering. Hey i noticed your running the simucube dd wheel base. I thought you were a Fanatec man!👍🥃

  • @davecamm

    @davecamm

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just think it's easier to set up the correct fov with flares, plus they're much easier to line up 😁 I'm still a Fanatec guy. I just have both now 😁

  • @OkiDingo
    @OkiDingo2 жыл бұрын

    I just built my triple 27” rig using LG 180Hz 1440p screens…..after hearing you use 27s and SRG uses 27s. They are great.

  • @KuSQ3N
    @KuSQ3N2 жыл бұрын

    agree, I was thinking to get 32inch but I liked the 27inch more and the 3x4k isn't really there may be the "RTX 5000s" series will be good for 3x 4k

  • @marcusdutton1808
    @marcusdutton18082 жыл бұрын

    I think triple 27's is a good place to be... I considered 32's but I am completely happy with my triple 27's for all the reasons Dave sets out.

  • @gadirigadiri2763

    @gadirigadiri2763

    2 жыл бұрын

    i started by 27 triple for almost 2 years. now am on 32 triple wich is the best ratio i think.

  • @levi859
    @levi8592 жыл бұрын

    I got triple 43... 69 degrees screen angle and a 218 degree view. I like it cuz when the monitors around you it's more immersive like you're in a real car. Only thing just like you say my wheelbase can't go under my screens and if I did that the top of the screens would be pointless and show nothing but roof. Unless I got a Simucube with a spacer. Right now I got a club sport so I still sit pretty close. I used to use 1 65 inch but anything 55 and up is too pixelated

  • @vinzvega5614
    @vinzvega56142 жыл бұрын

    thank you for your opinion and description

  • @JoeBlowUK
    @JoeBlowUK2 жыл бұрын

    I've been running triple +1 24" monitors in 5860x1080 for the past few years. I find now with a 3090, I can have maximum graphics in most games, with around 120 fps. I'm considering going to 27" monitors, so thanks for putting this video together Dave. 👍

  • @YouThober

    @YouThober

    2 жыл бұрын

    my iRacing with RTX 3090 run my triple 1440p @120-160 fps with settings medium/high + 4x anti-aliasing + 16x anisotropic. The 3090 is a beast and iRacing is not really demanding

  • @JoeBlowUK

    @JoeBlowUK

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@YouThober Nice one mate. I usually race ACC, AMS2 and Raceroom. AMS2 is fairly well optimised, so I get much higher fps than in ACC which is a hog when there are lots of cars.

  • @logo8009
    @logo80092 жыл бұрын

    I really didn't understand your comment on the 32's in front of the wheel base. I myself run 34" triples and run in behind the monitors but, use a extender to move the wheel out so I can have the monitors lower. That would be the only reason I would think of. I sit 27" from the screen with a 55 degree angle and a 165 FOV. It's like you could a person preference like you said. As for me my eyes are going and it's hard to sit that close to the monitors for me. I'm thinking your right Dave it's what works for you. Love the channel. I think a FOV video to explain to people that really just don't know. about a 1 to 1 FOV.

  • @Simlife101

    @Simlife101

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Logo 800 same as me. I think Dave is more limited by space. I have my triple 32in screens in front of my motor right above my Simcore 105mm spacer and it looks amazing

  • @NguyenNguyen-fe3gm
    @NguyenNguyen-fe3gm Жыл бұрын

    great stuff Dave, do you mind adding a footnote of units in metrics when you say inch or foot next time?

  • @PCPAyLOAD
    @PCPAyLOAD Жыл бұрын

    Same methodology goes for flight sim rigs. I have finally settled on three, LG 27GP850's. I've tried a varity of different display setups from single large 4k to 49" ultrawide. The best based on eye distance, FOV, clairity and cost are 27" 1440P flat panel IPS. Totally understand where youre coming from.

  • @TheLDunn1

    @TheLDunn1

    Жыл бұрын

    are to saying 'flat' there purely on cost grounds?

  • @PCPAyLOAD

    @PCPAyLOAD

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheLDunn1 I went with the best picture quality for the price. The LG 27GP850 is their nanocell IPS. Same tech they use in their high end ultrawide monitors. Really vivid colors, no ghosting, super low input lag and much less backlight bleed then the cheaper IPS panels. Basically the best IPS panel available. Curved are usually VA panels which have ghosting issues because by nature have slower pixel transitions. Curved 27 inch monitors are not necessarily more expensive but the picture quality tradeoffs weren't worth it to me. Every person is different though. Some people will take a hit on monitors performance for a curved setup.

  • @TheLDunn1

    @TheLDunn1

    Жыл бұрын

    great feedback - thank youo@@PCPAyLOAD

  • @34boilerhouse
    @34boilerhouse2 жыл бұрын

    Great video Dave, I think you have helped to convince me to go down the triple 27 route. I have an option to get a flat IPS monitor or a curved VA, would you recommend flat IPS over curved VA - same resolution and refresh rates, I know that some people find that curved monitors can distort the picture as software such as ACC is already adding in a degree of correction? Thanks in advance, liked and subscribed!

  • @davecamm

    @davecamm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes I would always go flat if you can 👍

  • @jimmixgs
    @jimmixgs Жыл бұрын

    Sounds pretty reasoanble! I've been thinking about getting myself a triple screen setup for a while and that was pretty helpful. Since I have the fanatec CSL DD which is pretty short, it looks like I would be able to fit the 32 inch screens behind the wheel base at just the right distance from my eyes (65cm) for a 180 fov, would you go then for the 32" if I have the space and I can benefit from the higher vertical real state? Or 27" screens over the wheel base would still be your go to? Thank you!

  • @aubreycolemanracing
    @aubreycolemanracing2 жыл бұрын

    Dave, great video, I normally use VR exclusively, but wondering, is there and warping at the edges of the screen, I may go triples one day, just want to make sure it's emersive enough, and no warping at the screen edge.

  • @craigleppert1436

    @craigleppert1436

    Жыл бұрын

    IMO no triple setup comes close to the immersion of VR, but as I'm sure you've found, VR has its own limitations, particularly relating to comfort. I'm tempted to go back to triples just for that reason, but I'm not sure how easy a detransition from VR will be having spent the last year or two using it.

  • @aqulex84
    @aqulex84 Жыл бұрын

    And thats the reason why you place the monitor ( I use a triple 32" setup) between the base and the wheel and you use solid wheel extensions.

  • @BenFilley
    @BenFilley2 жыл бұрын

    i personally run a 32 in the center and a couple 16:10 1920x1200 panels on the sides. its the same pixel density or close enough you cant notice scaling differences. cant run anything in "fullscreen" mode sadly because its not in "surround" mode, but it works and works well. if i want better, i throw on the quest 2.

  • @icedrinksfmj
    @icedrinksfmj Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for the information

  • @SaschaHenken74
    @SaschaHenken742 жыл бұрын

    Oooof. And as stupid as I am spent a lot money just for a 32" 1440ish to use. Unfortunately I have not the space for triples and a complete rig either but looking at your rig makes me jealous :D I can live with one monitor to be honest as i´m adapted to it but when it comes to overtaking in corners you have definately the best option as you can see into the corner and also exit which I cannot see. So i´m bound to the spotter and imagine where that other dude is right or left of me. Thanks for this cool explanation mate :)

  • @ZirbMonkey
    @ZirbMonkey2 жыл бұрын

    Great info. I just made my rig with 32" G5's, but my rig footprint is quite big. Glad you made this vid to inform others looking to make their rigs. 180 degrees FOV is a wonderful thing

  • @Simlife101

    @Simlife101

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ondrejtoman If you want it comfortable and last a few years get the 3080 or wait for the new 4080

  • @Tautulis7
    @Tautulis72 жыл бұрын

    Had the same footprint issue or limitation in my attic, where it's basically just a crouching area for me (197cm tall). The simlab triple stand just barely fit in between the both roof beams 😀 i think I have about 5cms left on each side, so no temptation for bigger monitors haha. The wheel is also very close to the monitor and my go-kart style seat means I almost sit on the ground. The only issue I have is lack of fresh air haha

  • @elbowsout6301
    @elbowsout63012 жыл бұрын

    Awesome thanks for doing this.

  • @keeef23
    @keeef232 жыл бұрын

    Nice video Dave 👍🏼

  • @olcique
    @olcique6 ай бұрын

    Another informative great video Dave! May I ask if you measured the distance from your eyes to the center screen? I'm trying to have a referance point and compare it to the new 57" monitor that Samsung released lately, which is also 132cm distance from edge to edge...

  • @davecamm

    @davecamm

    6 ай бұрын

    My eyes are approx 55cm from the centre screen 👍

  • @culerone
    @culerone2 жыл бұрын

    Nice one 👌 So how do you figure out how far your wheel has to be from your screen depending on the screen you use ?

  • @darrylcote9759
    @darrylcote9759 Жыл бұрын

    Love the rig Dave been watching for awhile but id personally go with 32s as long as your hardware will support it. Im running a 3070 and its halfass for 32 inch 1440p in situations so im currently upgrading within the month to a 3080ti with NO regrets. Always future proof your hardware when u can and i had that thought with these monitors when purchased. So many of my friends went with 27s now they are upgrading monitors and gpu's

  • @davecamm

    @davecamm

    Жыл бұрын

    No, 27s are perfect for me. I've had 32s 👍

  • @zzsdad
    @zzsdad Жыл бұрын

    Great info Dave. Can I check, why did you go for flat monitors rather than curved ones?

  • @Daz555Daz

    @Daz555Daz

    Жыл бұрын

    None of the current sims corrects for the curve so geometry is slightly distorted if you run curved. Whether you'd notice or not is another matter.

  • @a.vandervelden

    @a.vandervelden

    Жыл бұрын

    ​​​@@Daz555Daz that is actually not correct. ACC has a curve correction slider and when using Nvidia surround on triples it even auto detects the curvage of your screens.

  • @NetPhyll
    @NetPhyll23 күн бұрын

    Love it, mate ❤

  • @CoreyKearney
    @CoreyKearney2 жыл бұрын

    I have a 32 16x9. I run sims @ 2560x 1080 I have 70cm between my face and the screen. I run an external dash in the extra space and eye tracker. It's not perfect but it's means I can fill my game screen with windshield more or less, sizes are about right. If I fiddle with it I 'look' at the mirrors. What I want to try is 40+ in ultrawide.

  • @supermotohead119
    @supermotohead1192 жыл бұрын

    Best dig that bezel free kit out now! 😎😎

  • @wwjnz9263
    @wwjnz926311 ай бұрын

    I finally made the move to triple 27" monitors. At first I had the monitors 110cm from my eyes. When properly setup I was able to place my car right on the edge of the track when needed, and the in sim elevation changes were incredible. The last hill on Road America in RaceRoom felt like I was climbing a moutain, Brands Hatch's drops felt like being in a roller coaster. Getting close to cars in front of me, the cars filled the screen and sold the illusion of being close. As nice as that was, I still had issues with seeing apexes sitting that far back from my screens, so I pull the monitors closer when I am racing. They are now 75cm from my eyes thanks to my Fanatec wheelbase not being able to fit under the monitor. I was expecting the same large scale feeling out of the new eye distance, but after using multiple FOV calculators and getting my sims dialed in, things just seem so much smaller. Not only that but placing the car is tougher. I'm giving myself time to adjust to this but I don't feel as confident in this area. I am wondering what happened, and why did the perception of size vary so much if both setups were properly calculated?

  • @davecamm

    @davecamm

    11 ай бұрын

    Mathematically there is a correct fov, but don't get too hung up on that. Set up your triples so it looks right to you. If the numbers are off a little don't worry about it 👍

  • @jperk323
    @jperk3232 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always Dave. I’m currently running 10 year old triple 1080p 60hz ASUS monitors that are just under 24”. Would I notice a big difference going from what I have to 27”? I know the resolution and refresh rates would be noticeably better, but just in terms of visual real estate is it a big difference? I’m currently using mostly VR in sims and I love it but I miss the freedom of not having to wear a headset and the better visuals a good screen provides.

  • @jperk323

    @jperk323

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh and why don’t you like curved? I figured curved monitors would wrap around you better and more importantly a 32” curved would take up less space making the footprint a little closer to flat 27’s.

  • @motozfighterb1189
    @motozfighterb11892 жыл бұрын

    I agree completely dave! I had triple 32" curved and though I must say it looked great as a rig, I prefer my closer fov with my triple flat 27" setup. And the flat-screen setup looks better in game somehow. I feel games aren't really designed for curved screens and stretching occurs that I couldn't look past.

  • @kTSWaynos
    @kTSWaynos2 жыл бұрын

    I'm running only a single 27inch but was done with the idea to eventually move to a triple 27inch setup

  • @TheLDunn1
    @TheLDunn1 Жыл бұрын

    I think one of the big factors for many (myself included), will be going much bigger will then drive thr need for >1440, which not only increases the cost of the monitors, but also into the GPU required to feed 3x4k. That is a big dis-incentive to go larger I think

  • @JorgeOkamoto
    @JorgeOkamoto2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Dave, I was wondering what is your current PC setup running with 3 monitors. Thank you for this video.

  • @jorisbonson386
    @jorisbonson3868 ай бұрын

    I was using triple 3d 65" screens 14 years ago now 😅 3 x G7 32" perfect for Sim Racing now

  • @Toutvids
    @Toutvids Жыл бұрын

    I like my 32 inch screens but since I do a lot of truck simulators as well, wish I had room for bigger screens. Then there's Star Citizen, which would be epic on huge 55 inch screens... too much space though.

  • @darrylcote3971

    @darrylcote3971

    Жыл бұрын

    32s sre the way to go... sweet spot!

  • @jurgenhelmholz6163
    @jurgenhelmholz61632 жыл бұрын

    Hello Dave, I have been following your channel for 3 years with great enthusiasm. Now that I'm switching from an ultrawide monitor to a triple setup myself, I'd be interested to know what graphics card you use for your monitors? Thanks for your support.

  • @davecamm

    @davecamm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey buddy. I use a 3090 👍

  • @RTAMOTORSPORTS
    @RTAMOTORSPORTS2 жыл бұрын

    I have 3 27's but they are overclocked to only 80hz and are 1080p, been thinking 1440p Samsung g5's in 32 but now u got me thinking lol

  • @gosimracerjoe2783
    @gosimracerjoe27832 жыл бұрын

    I was set on 32s when I do triples (as soon as it makes financial sense to upgrade from my 3060) but I think you changed my mind. 27s are the same height as my 34" ultrawide and I don't find myself craving more vertical space. I was just hoping to not have the screens so on top of me.

  • @JoseFcoBN

    @JoseFcoBN

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't need more vertical, my eyes are at 70cm, I have a steering wheel extender and the base goes behind the central monitor, a curved LG 34" 21/9 1080p 144hz for the center and 2 27" with the same characteristics for the sides with XFX 5700xt ultra...I expected to buy a 6800xt or 6900xt but with these prices I will continue playing at 100fps on average, 144hz will have to wait...

  • @hod64

    @hod64

    10 ай бұрын

    @@JoseFcoBN How well do games support mixed sized (or mixed aspect ratio) monitors in triples? Which games did you manage to configure well with this setup? Was it more complicated than normal?

  • @JoseFcoBN

    @JoseFcoBN

    10 ай бұрын

    Games don't manage your monitors, the AMD graphics, if it allows you to put triples with different formats and definitions, and it's an old patent, with Nvidia you need 3 equal monitors... Now with my msi 6950xt gaming x trio limit the triples at 144hz, although I only use the central one for VR.

  • @brendanwilsongtr
    @brendanwilsongtr2 жыл бұрын

    Love the setup and content Dave. Keep up the good work 👍🏻 I’ve was debating what setup to get myself but ended up going with triple 55” LG C1 4K OLED gaming tvs for a more immersive feel. Absolutely love them coming from just a single monitor setup previously.

  • @garyhutchins4481
    @garyhutchins44812 жыл бұрын

    Have you got any more details about the rear-view mirror set-up Dave ? Is it an actual display screen in the mirror housing ?

  • @billyleungkt
    @billyleungkt Жыл бұрын

    Hi Dave. Nice vid and explaination. Very helpful. do you think my pc spec is good enough for Triple 2k 27 inches. CPU i12700K, GPU RTX3080 12GB, 32GB ram? I play ACC and Dirt Rally 2 mostly

  • @f0rdfalc0n46
    @f0rdfalc0n462 жыл бұрын

    My understanding is response time is how quickly it changes colors. No doubt I’ve misunderstood this for eons. I’m happy with my 49” ultra wide. One day I’ll try triples.

  • @johnsanderson966

    @johnsanderson966

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same mate, runs at 120 - 200 fps @ 240 hz Samsung G95

  • @f0rdfalc0n46

    @f0rdfalc0n46

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johnsanderson966 Samsung make the best screens IMO.

  • @duanemari11
    @duanemari112 жыл бұрын

    Dave, could you share your FOV Settings? How far are the is the center monitor from your eyes? What degree are your side monitors? Thanks!

  • @viperxbr
    @viperxbr2 жыл бұрын

    Great video Dave! One thing I would recommend is to stay at 1080p in iRacing. Unfortuntaely iRacing's graphics engine is ancient and is still very much more CPU bound than GPU. Even with my OC'd 11700k and a 3080 and triple 32", It still struggles at some tracks with a full grid to keep 60fps even at triple1080p. I couldn't imagine what that would be like with a triple 1440p! That's the unfortunate old backend coding of iRacing. IMHO, fps is far more important in these types of sims than high resolution and eye candy.

  • @BenFilley

    @BenFilley

    2 жыл бұрын

    im forced to assume something is setup wrong. im running a much lesser system and can run at those resolutions and higher at well over 60fps. maxed out in vr i get better than 90fps stable on the quest 2 at 1.2x supersample. out of a 5800x and a rtx 2080. you have 40% more gpu performance than me. your cpu isnt creating a bottle neck at 3k resolution when youre running a 3080. or at least not at 60fps. something HAS to be setup wrong. i personally run a 1440p and 2x 1200p screens for my triples and never have a problem keeping high frame rate. ever. and you have 40% more gpu than me lol.

  • @stickupmotorsports5854

    @stickupmotorsports5854

    2 жыл бұрын

    i have 3080 and run triples 1440 @165hz at max settings in iracing. Frames range from 90-140

  • @viperxbr

    @viperxbr

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stickupmotorsports5854 ​ @Ben Filley A simple test would be an AI race, at Barcalona, night time with 50 cars on grid. Try it out.

  • @Don-1307

    @Don-1307

    2 жыл бұрын

    Higher resolution should barely affect CPU load. The CPU and GPU are doing completely different tasks and resolution is almost completely GPU bound as its the graphics card thats actually pushing the pixels. The CPU is running game engine calculations while the GPU is creating the video output and applying processing and post-processing filters like MSAA, FXAA, Heat Blur, Particles, etc. Increasing resolution should barely affect CPU load, maybe a couple percent at most. I’m running a 3440x1440 ultrawide and on max settings I’m sitting at a constantly locked 142fps with 70% gpu and 20% cpu load (3080ti + 11900k).

  • @BenFilley

    @BenFilley

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@viperxbr ill give it a shot when i get up later. been out plowing. im tired. i aint doin shit right now lol

  • @jeffreysherman8498
    @jeffreysherman84982 жыл бұрын

    Hi Dave. Thanks for sharing. In your opinion, what are the "downsides" associated with some of these ultrawide or super ultrawide monitors? Why triples?

  • @John-ok8ts

    @John-ok8ts

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have a super wide and have just moved to triples. The downside is they just aren't wide enough. At best even with them pretty close you can really only expect about 100 to 110 fov which isn't high enough for wheel to wheel racing. I recommend just getting triples.

  • @kaischaefer9717
    @kaischaefer9717 Жыл бұрын

    Hello Dave perhaps you can help, after this video i went for the BenQ monitor you mentioned. It's quite nice and I really like it, but It's a bit weird to get the monitors to align nicely, as the rim is pretty small, but at the bottom the plastic part/strip of the speaker is a bit higher, which (adds up two times) with a angle of 50° between the monitors. The top of the monitors align perfectly, no gap at all but at the bottom Is a gap at least 2-3 mm wide due to the plastic being higher. I thought of cutting the edge of the plastic in an angle, so that the bottom part gets closer together (but with a new monitor starting to cut the rim? Perhaps not my best idea) How did you solve that, did you hide this behind the bezel free kit, or did you do something else? Thanks in advance. And thank you for the entertainment and insights you give. I enjoy to watch you race and try to learn.

  • @davecamm

    @davecamm

    Жыл бұрын

    The side monitors sit behind the centre monitor very slightly. If you message me somewhere I'll send you a picture of mine 👍

  • @richhaytonNZ
    @richhaytonNZ7 ай бұрын

    Watching your later videos I realise times have moved on with screens however… I was curious as to the reasoning for specifically specifying flat over curved screens?

  • @Bretticus19
    @Bretticus192 жыл бұрын

    im running 3x G32QC A. not bad price for 1440p 32" curve. Also i sit 24in away from them and i run 60 angle with 180 fov. my 2070 super also runs 1440p perfectly fine

  • @ash24445

    @ash24445

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Mate, I have 2070 super with ryzen 3600. Did you take any performance hit with the 1440p I am concerned I will get crap frame rate

  • @1972lesteryan
    @1972lesteryan2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video. This has been a great help. One question my pc has a gtx 1650 super graphics card in it right now due to high prices right now. Do you think this card would support a 27" triple screen at 1080p until I can upgrade my graphics card?

  • @Micromation

    @Micromation

    Жыл бұрын

    3x1080p is 6 220 800 pixels. That's a bit less than two 1440p monitors or roughly 25% less than single 4k monitor. If you can run a game of your choice on 1650 Super in 4k (3840x2160) then sure, it will be enough for 3x1080p monitors.

  • @rubenguit
    @rubenguit2 ай бұрын

    Thanks a lot for this video Dave. Really close to making the decision and going for triple 27's. Could you tell me/us what's the distance between you and the center screen and what fov you use? I still have one concern and that is the space available to get in and out of the rig with the screen about 65 cm away.

  • @davecamm

    @davecamm

    2 ай бұрын

    I was around 58cm from the screen and had my fov to 179 👍

  • @sonyx5332
    @sonyx53322 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. For 1080p, 24" is the recommended size and what I also use. If I decide to use a higher resolution like 4K, then a 32" is what I will use.

  • @bjornna7767

    @bjornna7767

    Жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't recommend 4k 32", you exchange a huge loss of fps for a not so high difference in quality at this size. 1440p + Anti Aliasing and stuff should be sufficient, yet, I use 27" 1440p so take it with a grain of salt.

  • @sonyx5332

    @sonyx5332

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bjornna7767 Explain how do you lose FPS going to a bigger size screen/monitor? that's a first. If you mean playing at 4K, then yeah, but I'm not interested in playing in that resolution until it becomes stable and doesn't require a one thousand dollar GPU.

  • @bjornna7767

    @bjornna7767

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sonyx5332 I meant the res, yes, 27" 1440p is very crisp, 32" 1440p more or less comparable to a 27" 1080p concerning pixel size. Would like to recommend you the following video which encouraged me to hold on to my triples 27". You might wanna think about it. 32" can have some flaws, depending on your equipment and room sizes. (lol, just saw it's the video I'm commenting on, I should make an internet pause :) YT: Answering a frequently asked question... | Why I use 27" triple monitors for Sim Racing?

  • @sonyx5332

    @sonyx5332

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bjornna7767 hahaha, no worries buddy, it happens, especially if you have a bunch of KZread tabs open. I don't think I will see myself getting a 4K 32" inch monitor anytime soon. Since I play many older gen consoles on a smaller monitor and the current ones at 1080p on a 24" inch monitor I've decided to stick with those instead of going to a bigger monitor. Playing those on a bigger monitor, the PPI density will be smaller and the games will look pixelated. I've also tested this with a 42" inch HDTV that let's me resize the screen image. So at their native resolution, a smaller monitor means more PPI density and looks better. For sim racing or any racing games I don't mind playing on a big HDTV when offline, but for anything online I prefer to use the 24" inch monitor with less lag.

  • @sonyx5332

    @sonyx5332

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bjornna7767 Forgot to say that I'm only using one monitor instead of three, but I now understand more your point about the 32" inch monitor since this video is about a triple monitor setup and not one lol.

  • @jgloc25
    @jgloc255 ай бұрын

    What angle are the side monitors on? And what GPU are you running the triple 1440ps?

  • @elvish4432
    @elvish44322 жыл бұрын

    Dave what do you think of the Simucube vs the fanatec - is it easy to use and set up sim to sim?

  • @who_squad9865
    @who_squad98659 ай бұрын

    Hey Dave, I'm kinda late. But how wide is this triple 27" roughly? Would be great to know as I dont have that much space

  • @OrionDauphin
    @OrionDauphin2 жыл бұрын

    My question regarding your setup is why we only get to see one third of the video when you’re driving from true sim viewpoint? We never get to see the side mirrors in your videos. This is why I really love your GoPro videos.

  • @davecamm

    @davecamm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Because I'd have to record in wide view which would generate black borders top and bottom 👍

  • @ZenMotionSim
    @ZenMotionSim2 жыл бұрын

    I had 1080p 27" monitors on my 6dof motion rig for some time until i tried reverb g2 and theres no going back to monitors for me... I think 32" would be better actually but then it's more difficult to mount them so they wont break right off... Funny thing Dave is that there actually is no better PC than what you have (if i recall 3090) so i have no idea how Will runs those three 4k TVs... Cheers

  • @THESHADOW97139

    @THESHADOW97139

    2 жыл бұрын

    Will made a video about it...a gas plant....

  • @JohnLewis-gi5vp
    @JohnLewis-gi5vp2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Dave

  • @TLRMAG1K
    @TLRMAG1K Жыл бұрын

    I’m now going to go from single screen to a triple setup …. How do I go about mounting the three monitors? Any advice?

  • @darkpsy19
    @darkpsy192 жыл бұрын

    Any particular reason to not go for curved screens instead of flat monitors?

  • @lebcrx
    @lebcrx2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Dave - what's the distance between your eyes to the front screen, your side angles and your FOV?

  • @elmalloc

    @elmalloc

    2 жыл бұрын

    Silence!

  • @davecamm

    @davecamm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, just noticed this comment. My eyes are approx 61cm from the screen and my angle is 50. Not sure of the fov tbh

  • @75Mdb

    @75Mdb

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dave doesn't set his FOV to suit the screen distance and size, he moves the monitors closer or further away to get the picture to look right....

  • @Lee-xs4dj

    @Lee-xs4dj

    2 жыл бұрын

    You shouldn't use FOV in game as it creates lensing effect and ruins depth perception

  • @bjornna7767

    @bjornna7767

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Lee-xs4dj Oh boy... * a thunder just struck, some computer nerd god just got angry I know what you mean, a too high fov makes it look like using a fish eye lense, but fov as such is simply the field of view in degrees, and it must absolutely be adjusted to your distance eye to monitor, as well as monitor size.

  • @bmwM3M5M6
    @bmwM3M5M62 жыл бұрын

    Couldn’t explained better my man ! I went also for triples 27” to keep the price low but I had to go for 1080p because I only have RTX 2070 Super and with ACC……You know difficult😅 I have OK FPS but I could not run 1440p with good FPS. Have also screens around 60cm from my eyes. IPS monitor but yeah 1080p is not that crip image. It’s ok but reading the dashboard from some cars is difficult and unsharp like Porsche GT3 R from ACC where some info’s on dash are quite small. But yeah I couldn’t upgrade GPU so I enjoy what I could afford. Better triples then a single screen because it’s more fun when you go side by side and to be able to really see the car instead of trusting the radar etc… much more immersion like we all know by now. 🏁🏁🏁👍

  • @jericosha2842

    @jericosha2842

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just did the same for the exact same reasons. I haven't gotten to set it all up, so I really hope it looks good.

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