They shouldn't even be mentioning this. Now everyone's going to go digging into this person's life and causing chaos for them.

@eliabrown8435

Жыл бұрын

Not only that, but the person who is likely innocent is now in danger of being targeted by the killer. I worry the remaining roommates are too. I worry this won't be his last...

@geebrewer8186

Жыл бұрын

@@eliabrown8435 why? Why would the killer go after them? Has the killer gone after the two girls who were in the basement?

@Taylive892

Жыл бұрын

@@geebrewer8186 Right, it’s not like all of the roommates are being targeted by some hitman with list that has their specific names. If the killer was targeting, likely they were just targeting one or two of the roommates or just the house itself

@highmann5914

Жыл бұрын

@@eliabrown8435 why would that person be in danger? you trying to hype this situation.

@January.

Жыл бұрын

@@highmann5914 *You're trying

I have followed this case from Day 1 and I'm so relieved I'm not the only one who is confused as hell regarding the targeted vs not targeted idea. 😬🤔

@timewa851

Жыл бұрын

well lease payer #6 is obviously the Lucky One. That I DO know.

@bottlerocket3218

Жыл бұрын

I knew from day 1 that saying this was a 'targeted' attack was overly vague and potentially misleading, all murder victims are 'targeted', and there's never been ANY details about this case that could possibly let you say with certainty that this was a personal grudge attack, or an impersonal serial killer-type attack, it could be either.

@jaymesnin

Жыл бұрын

They dont know. This many days. All they can count on now is forensics. Otherwise there would have been an arrest

@heatheranderson4239

Жыл бұрын

I'm thinking there's a difference between targeted a attack and personal attack. At first I thought both the same thing and that confused me.

@ksc743

Жыл бұрын

@@bottlerocket3218 I agree. I think they said that so the town wouldn't panic, thinking there's a random/serial killer in the town. I would speculate the person who did this is long gone and is watching the news as his trophy.

Found Brian Entin during Petito case. Been following him since. This guy is going places! Great reporter. Hoping the police will have more answers for us soon

@January.

Жыл бұрын

He doesn't speak English well enough to be going any place other than entertainment news.

@marcopolo-xj4yw

Жыл бұрын

Give it a break. He’s done nothing on this case. Are u a bot?

@moondancer6488

Жыл бұрын

I don't really like him. He reminds me of a vulture.

@marcopolo-xj4yw

Жыл бұрын

@@moondancer6488 I’ve never seen him before this week but I don’t either. He seems like a total amateur and he has all these bot fans for some reason. I don’t understand it.

@bretthannan200

Жыл бұрын

Give up the weed

Anyone jumping to conclusions at this point needs to check themselves. None of us know what's going on, including the people screaming "InCeL!"

@rachelkristine4669

Жыл бұрын

Or the folks who SCREAM DEFUND THE POLICE & THE FBI! U are absolutely right! Time to dump the political bs & start acting like real Americans concerned for our fellow human beings! I salute u! 🥰

@juliecrane9647

Жыл бұрын

Yep. With social media throwing out crazy theories and innuendo rampant LE has tons of BS to cull through. Ppl losing their car keys daily and their cars weekly are suddenly FBI directors. Cheezus

@January.

Жыл бұрын

*None of us knows

@AshleyLebedev

Жыл бұрын

Agree!!!!

@kennedy6971

Жыл бұрын

100% truth. I agree 100% with that

Brian is one hard working go getter. I have been following him since the Gabby Petito case.

@mrsr003

Жыл бұрын

Same! That’s when I found him and News Nation. Wish that story had a happy outcome.

@aburningbear3138

Жыл бұрын

Potato*

@January.

Жыл бұрын

*hardworking go-getter

@ameliabedelia7018

Жыл бұрын

IKR. In my mind he’s got a phat a** under that Parka.

@markbouldin6513

Жыл бұрын

So you believe the Petito story?.....

The reason why cops don't share everything they know about the crime investigation or what the crime scene look like is because when tips start rolling in on the phone. .they can tell if a tip is ligit like if any person calls in and says they heard someone talking about the murders and has says things about the crime scene like how these victims where stabb and how many times each victims where stabbed or anything else that the cops haven't shared with the public that is why they don't share everything they know so they can tell if a tip is legit too follow up on ........so I hope 🙏 they catch this evil coward or cowards who killed these innocent people

@Joe_Bicycle

Жыл бұрын

There *should* be POIs by now though, this "investigation unit" is beyond pathetic.

@lostineggsaisle

Жыл бұрын

@@Joe_Bicycle they might have someone or even more than one person.

@suelykinsey8841

Жыл бұрын

We really can't judge the investigators. Let them do their job. They can't reveal what is going on. We have to be patient and trust them. Justice will be served.

@scaringthecheese

Жыл бұрын

@@Joe_Bicycle Again... not something they would share.

@Joe_Bicycle

Жыл бұрын

@@scaringthecheese They *can at least say* we have several POIs. Something they *can* share that would still fight against trolls calling in spoofs.

I give up....I cant take anymore of this.

@canadianbeef1958

Жыл бұрын

Right there with ya

It's been only 18 days. You all need to be more patient. This is not a TV show.

@ladydelahaye

Жыл бұрын

What you say!!! 👊🥂

@Joe_Bicycle

Жыл бұрын

There *should* be POIs by now, not all police departments and FBI units perform their investigations to the highest standard............

@angelabiery-jones5556

Жыл бұрын

@@Joe_Bicycle They may have POIs but not sharing that info because they have them under surveillance & they don’t want them to run before they get enough to make an arrest!! Unless you’re LE that’s investigating this case we don’t know & everyone needs to stop speculating or fueling the rumor mill!!

@Joe_Bicycle

Жыл бұрын

@@angelabiery-jones5556 They don't have to give a description of the POIs, *all* they need to say is we have several POIs, which after _fucking weeks,_ there's been nothing.

@angelabiery-jones5556

Жыл бұрын

@@Joe_Bicycle I agree if they do have POIs they should say that which they can do without giving any details!

It was said at the beginning another roommate moved out reason unknown. Kaylee was also moving out to go to her internship in Texas

@bottlerocket3218

Жыл бұрын

Well, serial killers don't really care who they kill, or why, as long as they're alive, they will kill them, which seems like what happened in this case. Four people stabbed to death as they slept in their beds. Seems like he wanted to kill anyone he found.

@-_YouMayFind_-

Жыл бұрын

@@bottlerocket3218 this is not a serialkiller. This would now be called massmurderer

@bottlerocket3218

Жыл бұрын

@@-_YouMayFind_- All I was saying is that there's a possibility that the victims did not know the killer, and that these murders were not personal, but the kind done by a serial killer, done just for the thrill of killing.

@eachandeverything1836

Жыл бұрын

@@bottlerocket3218 These murders were very personal (JMO). Killing w/a knife is usually personal and driven by rage/anger. I can’t even fathom how much anger it would take to stab 1 person to death much less 4 back to back to back to back. Hopefully they will find the POS that did this sooner than later and we can find out what happened……why it happened and their family and friends and the community can all get some sort of peace.

@stacyfrazierbauer8811

Жыл бұрын

Well I don't think they wanted Kaylee to leave.

This case is very draining

GREAT TO SEE CC. AND ALL OF YOU GREAT GUYS WORKING TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!

My heart breaks for the parents 😭

Brian Entin is awesome 👏 glad you are covering this case.🎉😊

My question is this. It’s a rental house - of college students on off campus but near by the school life. How long have they been residents of this house? Who were the residents of the last few years? The locks were electronic I heard.. did they change the code to get in the house? Did the old residents come back or did people who knew the old residents break in usuing old codes. Could the people who lived there before been involved with the wrong people? These types of houses have a lot of residents with a lot of associates. Idk just a thought.

@fcameron8172

Жыл бұрын

Yeah did that neighbor who volunteered his useless DNA that he’s certain isn’t at the crime scene because he was careful not to leave any behind when he killed…Oopps I mean when he was there to visit one day 🙄 know the lock codes to the house he’s probably jealous of with the beautiful people he’s so painfully obviously jealous of?

@LauraVee63

Жыл бұрын

Suggestion: Your comment would indicate that you need to watch "Unsolved No More" on KZread....DETECTIVE KEN MAINS explains the real deal. NewsNation wants your clicks and views.......they sensationalize and speculate, which causes people to make false statements and spread rumors. I'll bet if you watch and listen to Detective Mains, all of your questions will be logically explained.

@rjohnson1986rj

Жыл бұрын

I figured the landlord or someone hired or one of the room mates

@juliecrane9647

Жыл бұрын

Very similar to line along my thoughts. Do the current roomies interview potential roomies ? With the room up for rent was someone rejected recently or in the recent past... This sounds like an act of retaliation and rage filled revenge. It would seem a trivial motive to most but there have been murders for dumber reasons...like unfriended from FACEBOOK. College kids r too trusting too. I bet the code was rarely changed. Likely it was a student with a big grudge even if it was for a small reason. School shootings alone have proven this. I envy LE none. Lots of young ppl and tons of gossip. I do think they'll solve.

@moondancer6488

Жыл бұрын

@@fcameron8172 It's people like you that cause so much trouble for innocent people. You should be ashamed. There's not much worse than an ole gossipy rumormonger.

This residence is very susceptible to surveillance due to it being built into the hillside and the apartment building parking lot being directly behind the residence at a higher elevation and hidden by trees. Also very good ingress/egress routes through the trees at the rear of the property. Once you’re up that slope at the rear, you’re on a road in a completely different neighbourhood. The killer could have come and gone through the rear treeline completely invisible.

@Belbivdevoe

Жыл бұрын

The was a fight with someone they know, the police call at 3am is the smoking gun

@amuddymoose

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully someone on that street has a camera…

@amuddymoose

Жыл бұрын

@@Belbivdevoespeculation

@katiix

Жыл бұрын

They had mentioned that anyone could go into the woods in the back of the home and they're able to see what everyone in the home is doing. There's also a glass slider door in the back of the home that wasn't covered and they said you can see everything from a far distance. That's so scary, they were probably being watched and didn't have a clue.

@sandyfields678

Жыл бұрын

Looks like..

This was done during Veterans Day weekend, maybe the guy had the whole weekend off and Friday off so he drove from far away and isn’t from that area at all?

@Flore-162

Жыл бұрын

good point

An intruder would kill a dog first to stop it from barking unless the killers were known by the dog!?

@canadianbeef1958

Жыл бұрын

The dog may have gotten scared after witnessing the first murder and chose not to risk attacking the killer, but one of the neighbours said they heard the dog barking between 3 - 4 am

@ryanl3812

Жыл бұрын

@@canadianbeef1958 yes, because dogs understand murder.

@canadianbeef1958

Жыл бұрын

@@ryanl3812 they understand self preservation and "fight or flight", it happens in nature all the time. Animals usually run from a stronger more dangerous enemy.

@ryanl3812

Жыл бұрын

@@canadianbeef1958 this is true.

Breaking news the garage is a three car garage not a two car garage.

@giuseppinasanger6410

Жыл бұрын

😂

@D_Parks

Жыл бұрын

What garage?

@timetraipsing

Жыл бұрын

🤣

@CigarKingASMR

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think there is garage

How is that not important? For the police not to have a person of interest yet, I'd be worried about how deep these detectives are digging before writing certain individuals off.

@enlightenedbeing492

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@jennyjumpjump

Жыл бұрын

It could be not important if they moved and failed to get themselves removed from the lease. Why would they do that? Young people, inexperience. Not knowing that you have to actively do that when you move out. They could've graduated last June and moved to California for a job and not realized they're still technically on the lease

@jbvap

Жыл бұрын

Yea, you’re probably right. You know better than the detectives working the case. You “internet sleuths” are nuts.

@rizanz2108

Жыл бұрын

@@jbvap hope you're not implying officials are 'perfect' and above compromising.

@debbieturner6210

Жыл бұрын

What rock have y'all been living under? LE have always started with person/persons closes to victims and worked their way out so it's absolutely important for someone on the lease or living in the home to be interviewed with a fine-tooth comb

Keep posting.. I am really following this news

Everybody take this with a grain of salt the FBI and police have known this since they got to the crime scene there just releasing this type of information for clarification so don’t come up all your crazy scenarios

@lostineggsaisle

Жыл бұрын

You're exactly right. They're placating the public.

@CaptianJC

Жыл бұрын

I think you are the only intelligent person here. Seriously.

@milissas.8364

Жыл бұрын

Do you think they already know who did it?

@milissas.8364

Жыл бұрын

@Supa Suit It's true! We all have to be patient. I think they have an idea, too. I respect the detectives and the job they're doing. It takes time, it's not cold. Although, I'm wondering if this is a student, serial killer, or someone in passing?

@milissas.8364

Жыл бұрын

@@WheresMySupaSuit Yep! I think you're on to something. Now, We have to be patient at this point.

Who owns the property?? They need to look at the owners and family of the owners. Every possible scenario

@canadianbeef1958

Жыл бұрын

Does anyone know if the landlord was trying to evict them?

@janetrogers4738

Жыл бұрын

Or she needed things quiet to study.

@MareRS357

Жыл бұрын

I find it weird that there were cameras and lightning on this home. That made it a good target.

Yep it totally makes sense, that's how this whole case has been up to this point, what's sad is the longer this keeps dragging out the more the public works itself into a frenzy. Prayers go out to parents and families God bless you all

@jaymesnin

Жыл бұрын

An the more theorys

@jefe2098

Жыл бұрын

Trump did it

@DaniellaR-xp4cp

Жыл бұрын

I guess they got the killer confused too, he or she doesn't know in which direction the police are going in.

You are not alone Dan. This gets more mind boggling every day.

When you've watched KZread creators you realize how slow main stream media is

@MH_297

Жыл бұрын

💯

@valleychatter2195

Жыл бұрын

True! I knew about this 6th roommate from a comment on YT. She moved out from the 2nd floor because of all the party and noise. This decision probably saved her life!

This is beyond scary!

@robc7034

Жыл бұрын

I'd be super paranoid if i lived there.

I wish you guys would go full interviews instead of segments! I love you guys but hate the cut off and search for the next one then it’s out of order….not to complain. Sorry.

@5boysandamom

Жыл бұрын

Agree!!!!!

@canadianbeef1958

Жыл бұрын

They need to get their sht together.

@markuse3472

Жыл бұрын

I figured you people would notice the length of the video as a clear indication it wont be a full interview. That's Your fault.

This has literally been known since like the second day… she just moved out.. Newsmax tries to blow everything out of proportion for views

@MBucky

Жыл бұрын

This ISN’T Newsmax! It’s News Nation!

@christoph1596

Жыл бұрын

@@MBucky whatever

@moondancer6488

Жыл бұрын

@@christoph1596 I agree.

JLR breaking news.... the dog may have fleas also he may not have been neutered, but we can only speculate at this time!!!

I speculate that it could very well have been a serial killer, who has probably done something like that in different states and locations. Seems like whoever did that, may have had previous experience. It's just horrible!!

@fcameron8172

Жыл бұрын

Or the neighbor who volunteered his useless DNA that he’s certain isn’t at the crime scene because he was careful not to leave any behind when he killed…Oopps I mean when he was there to visit one day 🙄 dude is making it more and more obvious he’s guilty

@tomd1434

Жыл бұрын

I’m leaning that way too. Good of you to say you speculate. I read these comments and blown away at the arrogance claiming to know more than cops ect.

@itsallfunandgamestil

Жыл бұрын

@@fcameron8172 shame on you

@ItsMeAmb3rly

Жыл бұрын

AGREE

@moondancer6488

Жыл бұрын

I, also, believe it's a serial killer. Some of these innocent people having their reputations ruined by people that are so willing to accuse them of murder may have slander and libel suits ready for some folks. It's so wrong to tarnish someone's name like that.

Sucks 😢 I hope they find whoever did this. They were so young 😣

The whole "targeted" thing has been basically irrelevant from the start of this case, because they never defined what it meant. Targeted could mean a vengeful act, a stalker, a burglary, a serial killer who picked that house, a random local with serious mental health issues who picked them as targets... it's a pointless word used without any additional context and the cops seemed to start using it when they were issuing other false statements that they've since walked back. Let's be real, unless there is information released showing that people were specifically targeted no one should consider that this means anyone else is safe.

@beccac6812

Жыл бұрын

It matters to people who live in the town, if it’s targeted because of revenge or they had some vendetta against the victims and not just a random attack : they don’t feel as unsafe. Weather or not they should feel safe either way is open to debate but a random potentially serial killing is a bit different then a targeted attack that had a specific lot or against the victims

@jaymesnin

Жыл бұрын

Either way someone was capable of killing 4 people lmk Target or not. Theees a dangerous p

My gut feeling is Ethan and Xana were in bedroom C, right at the bottom of the stairs. And Maddie and Kaylee were probably in F, especially considering it had the nice deck and everything. And if it was that way, the bedroom under them would have been empty. And if the two in the basement were in the same room, maybe they were in bedroom B. Then no one would have been above them. Which would explain why they didn’t hear. That makes the most sense to me. But just speculating.

@seabreeze7378

Жыл бұрын

Ethan and Xana were in br D, blood outside on wall from that room

@joilegrand5147

Жыл бұрын

There was a report I saw today that said 2 of the girls were in the same bed. The 2 that had been friends since they were little kids.

@fcameron8172

Жыл бұрын

Most of Kaylee and Maddie’s pictures were taken on that deck so I tend to agree.

@fcameron8172

Жыл бұрын

@@joilegrand5147 the 2 who were also making phone calls to one of their ex’s just a very short time before they died. So it makes sense they’d be in bed together…can home “drunk”, drunk dialed ex while either crying or giggling with each other, slept in the same bed right where we were while doing all of this just like they had for their whole lives basically. If these peoples “drunk” friends don’t pee together and sleep together then are they really even friends? Lol I’d say no way 🤷🏼‍♀️

@jayrox641

Жыл бұрын

Johnny Law does a breakdown on the house for reference if y’all needed. He’s a channel on KZread

What does "the residence was targeted" even mean? I'm so confused. What a damn mess

How they know about targeting is by the damage the murderer did to a specific body/bodies when compared to the other body's...that's not the only way to determine if people were targeted. But it's one way. And they don't want to give details because later when they question people they don't want people regurgitating what they heard on the news. The fbi is there with over 100 agents. I think I speak for everyone when I say it's better to take time and get the perpetrator then hurry through and then make someone a scapegoat. I think the news said they last had a homicide 5yrs ago. I know it's difficult , but let's be patient. Let's try and not be so critical of the depth or investigative techniques that are being employed. The majority of us have no formal background in murder investigations. That being said, hind sight is 20/20. There will plenty of time to point out wrongs in the investigation later. For now let's keep our eye on the prize and demonstrate some faith in the police abilities. Make no mistake, the FBI are the best investigators in the world. Let's give the process the time they need to do this the right way and get the person/persons responsable

I would take online classes. I would not reside there. It is not safe.

@jebbyjones8713

Жыл бұрын

I would stay. Fear can’t win.

@hsk2909

Жыл бұрын

@@jebbyjones8713 Maybe so, but you would soon become paranoid about pretty much everyone on site. Not too sure if that is a desirable mental/emotional state to be in either.

Student housing is like this. Places have high turn over rates of renters. That's just how it is. Interesting detail but I'd wager it's insignificant and a dead end.

@ServantOfJesusChrist777

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@baaamakingbaaaa

Жыл бұрын

That was my first thought too

@deew7014

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree

Thank you Brian

Kaylee had already moved out from my understanding! She was there visiting Maddie to show her her new car and was sleeping over! That’s my understanding.

When these heinous crimes happen, city police should just hand the case over to the State police and the FBI automatically. All that is happening here is PR and poor investigating by a team that is not fully able to investigate. They're going to have another Delphi on their hands.

@fcameron8172

Жыл бұрын

Oh u mean where the killer had literally basically turned himself in in the very beginning by inserting himself in the investigation JUST LIKE THIS IDAHO NEIGHBOR HAS AND DID EVEN MORE TODAY WITH VOLUNTEERING HIS DNA? Yeah I’d say it’s a lot like Delphi too and he’s a lot like Richard Allen….in my opinion of course

@xxmvvi

Жыл бұрын

usually they do, but they don’t have to. i have a strange feeling that Moscow police want to try to solve this on their own and it’ll hold everyone back from justice

Nothing but confusion...wtf...cops not helping at this point. The perp needs to feel pressure.

I’m trying to figure out how weird it is that the two roommates down’s stairs didn’t get touched? Someone really close was creeping.

This case is so odd it just leaves me shaking my head.

Stop with the Nancy Grace drama. Maybe they have a strategy. The media is not helping.

@canadianbeef1958

Жыл бұрын

The media is turning everyone against each other like usual.

@jamesdavis8731

Жыл бұрын

The media is just reporting what they know. The media has nothing to do with this case not being solved or even a legitimate suspect being sought.

Unfortunately, the chaotic morning after the kids were killed, tainted the crime scene. People these days really are dumb to ruin a crime scene or not understand when someone is dead and blood all over the place.

@Mycenaea

Жыл бұрын

Nah, you're the dumb one here not realizing the girls were too shocked to think straight, and the people passing by didn't know the victims inside were dead.

@chadsullivan1689

Жыл бұрын

Ya your suppose to be smart making it to college..haha dumb roommates they had.. to not see alot of blood.

@glenjacobson3282

Жыл бұрын

@@Mycenaea bro, idc if I was in a semi comatose state, I’d see blood and someone not moving and know they were dead. Ain’t hard to see or tell

Hope you’re feeling better Dan! 👍☮️💟🌻

Brian deserves a free Canada Goose for his efforts

@canadianbeef1958

Жыл бұрын

I have one I can give him.

@mccaughley1865

Жыл бұрын

Maybe wear it on his head to keep warm instead of shivering his ass off like a dog shitting razor blades! 😂 🇨🇦

@jaymesnin

Жыл бұрын

@@canadianbeef1958 grey goose

@jaymesnin

Жыл бұрын

🍾

Why has no reward been offered?

@hersheyssmith2104

Жыл бұрын

No budget bwahaha

This is why everyone not working on the murders is concerned about law enforcement's ability to conduct the investigation when the last homicide was 7 yrs ago. And they lost so much potential evidence and leads on suspects in the first 48 hrs if they didn't know what they were doing.

@enlightenedbeing492

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@christoph1596

Жыл бұрын

Literally everyone who knew about this case knew about the 6th roommate from the initial press conference.. everyone was saying it.. they’re just trying to continue this narrative of mystery and speculation

@issaahmed8504

Жыл бұрын

@carlabarrick8538 First 48 hrs fan.... me too.

@facehunter504

Жыл бұрын

It took them weeks to tow the victims cars.. weeks! My friend is a homicide detective and he’s saying what they’re doing in Idaho is rookie shit.

@tatertotcasserolewithsalt

Жыл бұрын

The timeline has been off too. This whole case just seems like a mess.

This announcer is HORRIBLE! He screws up Xana’s name twice & can’t pronounce Moscow correctly after 2 weeks of covering the case.

How the hell can all these people be at that home and not notice or hear these people being brutally murdered?!!!

@craigplatel813

Жыл бұрын

Just because it was brutal doesn't mean it was loud.

@RiverBirchFarm

Жыл бұрын

The sleeping arrangement was that no one was sleeping in the room above them from what I understand.

@jogirl836

Жыл бұрын

Uh the 6th person wasn’t there number one. Number two the way the first floor is the rooms aren’t aligned where u can hear above u except one of the rooms but Ethan and Xana were in tbe other one together and also, u forget they had parties ALL of the time! That’s why the first floor roomies locked their doors every night to prevent party goers from going in their rooms when asleep so they ARE use to hearing loud noise and sleeping through it! And 4 most importantly; they were all drunk passed out! All of them! Not that hard to comprehend esp when they’re all n bed most likely asleep and woke to several stabbings it was over before it even started for them. No noise to be heard! The roommates on first floor alresdy said they heard noise but assumed it was people coming to the house as they always did! Other students and people from the frat. It’s not like u just wake up and think “oh people are getting murdered upstairs.” Again the way the house was laid out also played a part. Not that hard to believe. At all!

@canadianbeef1958

Жыл бұрын

@@RiverBirchFarm then they must have been sleeping on the same floor as the victims.

@moondancer6488

Жыл бұрын

@@canadianbeef1958 No. There are 3 floors with 2 bedrooms per floor.

and.....theyre about to become the internet's #1 suspect Good luck buddy!

@bettywillbrowse

Жыл бұрын

🤣😝🤪😛😂 truth!!

@canadianbeef1958

Жыл бұрын

Here we go again.....

I don't understand how the 2 people on the 1st floor did not hear a thing when 4 people were being stabbed to death 1 and 2 floors above them. They did not hear one scream out of 4 people being stabbed to death? I'm not sure if they should be ruled out.

The floor plans have been public knowledge for atleast 2 weeks now. Stop reporting on the same information. It's getting boring.

So that's the person that Kaylee's dad was referring to, encouraging that person to go speak to LE about what they know or saw that night.

What kind of school name is Vandals?😂

@Jeff-bz6jp

Жыл бұрын

Marauders was taken.

@canadianbeef1958

Жыл бұрын

@@Jeff-bz6jp so was Raiders

@cowboy7170

Жыл бұрын

It's better than Pussycats.

This is so confusing 🤦 Thank you @Brian Entin for coming to the west coast to cover this case sorry it's not so warm 🥶

@moondancer6488

Жыл бұрын

West Coast? Actually, Idaho is part of the Pacific Northwest, but not on the coast. 🙂

Well that lease is about to be broken.

The least the reporters can do is not mess up their names 🙄

@showstopper8

Жыл бұрын

thats why he corrected himself ms. perfect

@jamesdavis8731

Жыл бұрын

seriously?? He corrected his mistake. And that is what you focus on in this story? Grow up.

Whatever sort of psychotic twisted animal committed this horrific crime, has no value for human life, it cannot be human.

What does it mean when they say the residence was targeted? To me, that indicates a robbery.

Doesn’t surprise me because there was that undesignated bedroom…

The residence was targeted? What does that even mean?

@arianaross5013

Жыл бұрын

Yea that doesn’t make sense either. Was the house robbed too?

@keithangstadt4950

Жыл бұрын

Killer could have chosen the house because of its location or because they have some connection to it. Killer could have been someone who just wanted to kill people and wasn't particular as to who, just wanted to be able to pull it off without being foiled. Due to the location of the house there are a few of ways in and out without being seen.

I did read at the start that the landlords son used it sometimes??

@amorl4520

Жыл бұрын

Hmmm

@judyr5011

Жыл бұрын

OH, OH!

@PeaJayCee

Жыл бұрын

I read that somewhere also.

@cowboy7170

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure LE took a good look at him. Not sure if he has been ruled out by LE though. It would be interesting to see what LE's current "persons of interest" list looks like.

I knew that,it was told that the house were rented to 6 females student, one left early in the month to go away. Was in the very beginning of this case.

Johnny Law channel did a thorough video on the floor plans a few weeks ago. The info on this news video is incomplete.

Check to see if the Landlord had any enemies

Man, they're just digging for anything now. 😆😆

All I can say that this was done by someone who knew what they were doing. People are out there thinking someone did this out of anger and jealousy. I completely disagree. They didn’t make any mistakes. And someone acting out of anger and rage would definitely make mistakes.

The public is owed nothing, as far as details of an ongoing investigation. They are just gonna have to deal with it

We “ARE” dealing with a serial killer. It’s unbelievably irresponsible to resume classes and tell the general public not to worry 🤦‍♂️

@wqv5423ln

Жыл бұрын

If it ws he's long gone from Moscow. They never stick around especially in a small town. They move often to evade authorities

Maybe if your station would listen to Detective Ken Mains instead of cutting him off you'd know more. Shame on all of you. You could've learned so much.

@deborahmazza8123

Жыл бұрын

Precisely

WTH does it mean for the residence to be targeted?

@cowboy7170

Жыл бұрын

If someone was targeting random girls for whatever reason, they would pick a house that only girls lived in, such as a sorority house, like in the Elliot Rodger case.

This is a COLOSSAL CONFUSION NOW! Come on! All this time the officials and media have reported on rooms and the safe students were in the basement. Now there s no mention of a basement. Ugggh🙆

Or... just maybe, and this is just my theory, Jack could have been the one to make the calls from the girls phones after the fact to cover his tracks, the girls supposedly got home with the new timeline at around 1:52 am, depending on their night time routines (they were already in pretty casual clothes at the food truck) I would say they maybe needed 10 minutes to get into bed, and if they were intoxicated like some people are reporting, they could've fallen asleep quite fast. If based on the rigor mortem the coroner suggests the killings happened between 3-4am, why couldn't they have happened at approximately 2:20am? And Xana and Ethans just before that on the 2nd floor, it would be a close call but if the lights were off and the killer was watching it is a possibility. Ethan and Xana may have just been killed as collateral damage, it is known Ethan was not in bed and potentially in the doorway, did he catch the killer? And with the door open it would've given Xana ample time to react hence the defensive wounds. Kaylee's dad also just stated Maddie and Kaylee were sharing a bed that night, Kaylee was graduating this fall sem and due to travel Europe in Jan, could Kaylee's room have been cleared out or mostly so already? is that why she slept with Maddie that night and was Maddie also just killed because they happened to be in the same bed? Most people in Idaho hunt, plus Jack is on the taller side and according to photos does have some muscle. He would definitely have the strength to commit this. LE also profiles the killer as being a first time killer with a targeted motive. My main question is how did Kaylee afford the new range rover (RRs start at $70k USD+) (I believe the family stated she bought this with her own money - also told her mom that she would take her out for breakfast, lunch and dinner - with her own money just the week after, so no, I don't think in this instance its from her family's financial support) and to backpack around Europe? She wasn't an influencer, I believe her insta account prior to the killings had around 2-3k followers, could the alternate income source have something to do with what Jacks motive was? Was he jealous? HE seems like the one who was mad, why was Kaylee begging him to come over in the texts if she had ended it? Maybe the story of why there were on a break isn't so clean cut as Kaylee just wanted some time off, maybe Jack ended it because of something he found out. Her and Jack were at the time on a break. Her last texts to Jack were along the lines of "come over, we share a dog, can we just talk". LE ruled him out as a potential suspect and the family is backing him publicly to no end, could this be to throw him off the scent so he lets his guard down? Even though Murphy was his (Jacks) dog too, there are new pap photos of him with Murphy seemingly off leash (www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11477433/Idaho-police-say-corroborate-one-victim-stalker.html#reader-comments) there are dogs who are impeccably well trained, he might have just known Murphy wouldn't leave the house - in regards to why the sliding door was left open Then there's the case of Bethany and Dylan the two surviving roommates and their 911 call, ALLEGEDLY after the call was made Ethan's brother Hunter and one of his best friends who people are stating was JACK DUCOEUR were called to this house... It is known that people were definitely in and out of the crime scene before LE arrived, if one of the people called was Jack or if he happened to respond to Kaylee's texts by coming over directly in the morning he could've infiltrated the crime scene with his DNA, giving a plausible explanation as to why his DNA was found everywhere the crime happened and therefore ruling him out as a suspect in polices eyes at least where DNA is concerned as it had already been compromised.

@LizLaFollette

Жыл бұрын

Makes sense!! And I agree!!

@andsimiloves

Жыл бұрын

@@LizLaFollette also if Kaylee was leaving town the next day/in the next few days, she would probably be the intended target i just know logically there is SOMETHING Kaylee's family knows that they're hiding, when first asked if Kaylee had ever mentioned a stalker dad said no, then in another interview, yes, but he was looking away from the camera/interviewee, a telltale sign of concealing the truth. What bothers me is how NO ONE is talking about how Kaylee afforded all she did by herself, if she had a company, we would've seen it in her social media, if she modelled, probably the same, if she had a job, we would've heard about it like we did Maddie and Xana's, so how does one afford a 70,000 dollar car? just so unbelievably sad...

@andsimiloves

Жыл бұрын

occams razor - the simplest solution is usually the right one

@krissykrupski4973

Жыл бұрын

Kaylees 2016 Evoque was est at 22,000.

@hsk2909

Жыл бұрын

Very good theory, unless he has a solid alibi for that time, and i don't mean an alibi where his mom confirms he was in bed in her house at that time. I mean a SOLID alibi. You put together your theory very well, and at this point it is as plausible as any other good theory. I'm also theorizing it is another student whom has been at the house during a party. Someone with not such a solid connection to them as Jack evidently. Someone aloof, a loner, a serious introvert, someone with a budding mental illness and/or someone whom have been dreaming about their first kill for a long time. A budding serial killer so to say. It may have been nothing more personal ( as a motive) other than that this group of very attractive and evidently pretty popular people somehow sparked off the - Yes, these ones are going to be my first ones, decided! But as said, at this point, with no groundbreaking new info coming out, all one can do is theorize within a very broad framework.

If they targeted Ethan it makes no sense to go to the third floor and murder Kaylee and Maddie

@fcameron8172

Жыл бұрын

Kaylee and Maddie (the pretty blondes with no boyfriend hanging around) were the targets of the jealous neighbor who volunteered and turned his DNA today, oops I mean… the killer. I said what I said 🤷🏼‍♀️

@moondancer6488

Жыл бұрын

@@fcameron8172 You're purposely trying to ruin someone's reputation. That is an awful thing to do. If you have evidence to that fact, call the tip line. If you don't, you need to stop making accusations.

The 6th roommate had moved out months ago hence the vacant room on the second floor.

@cowboy7170

Жыл бұрын

LE still needs to see if they have an alibi. Any previous roommate could be a person of interest because they know the door code, the layout of the house and the dog. If the previous roommate moved to a nearby house and had a grudge with one or more of the current residents, that person needs to be looked at more closely.

How were they killed? How come no one else heard anything? This is one strange case.

I find it very odd that nobody ever made mention there was another roommate what gender, what age ,what affiliation, what were they involved in and could they perhaps have been gone because they knew that they were in threat of danger? This case seems to have more holes in it then Swiss cheese. Why was this other occupant on the hush-hush why was it not spoken of before by anybody that resided there that is living. Two people downstairs must have sleeping disorders didn’t hear a thing? Could be possible hard to believe though.

@markbouldin6513

Жыл бұрын

Someone on the web put up a screenshot of an ad with image's of the house for rent dated about a month ago.... Maybe it was fabricated?...idk?.... It sure looked legit.....

@sjg5994

Жыл бұрын

I agree! No real info. Empty stuff being said for some reason.

@amethystpisces7284

Жыл бұрын

Well some of them were either moving out or had moved out. A few of them were scheduled to graduate early in December. So maybe the property owner wanted to advertise ahead of time to get tenants in place by the start of the next term. The 6th roommate was most likely another college student either a current or former student. This house was allocated as student housing.

@beautifuldisaster9784

Жыл бұрын

I'm so tired of this narrative about the roommates. The police have said that these kids were killed in their sleep. Madison and Kaylee were killed in the same bed.. this means that people were killed without the other victims hearing anything since they remained sleeping as well. They likely didn't have time to scream if they were asleep and fatally wounded. It's really not that difficult to fathom. They were stabbed- it's not like there were a bunch of gunshots that people claim to have slept through. Leave the roommates alone!!! I'm sure they are more than traumatized over this.

@markbouldin6513

Жыл бұрын

Yap, it's another convoluted massacre as if there are writers and director's writing an directing the script on a day-to-day basis

This case rings out resemblances to the Gainesville Ripper case. Which makes you think it could take years really for this to unfold

@moondancer6488

Жыл бұрын

It was the first thought that came to my mind.

Has anyone heard about a property dispute regarding the home where this crime took place? My heart breaks for the families with all the media coverage and not much info from the authorities such s tragedy.

Brian is one of the last actual investigative reporters out there. Always getting down to the facts and nitty gritty of a case.

The whole "targetted" thing could actually have a simple, logical answer...just one that the investigation shouldn't have released like they did! Everybody is asking (in a rather snarky manner), "How would the police even KNOW if it was a targeted attack?" Well, here ya go... IF 3 of the victims were stabbed through the neck or chest and killed almost instantly...and the 4th victim was stabbed 30 times or more or stabbed and beaten...or their stab wounds went to the bone, etc, etc. Those attacks are generally very personal, meaning it was not some random murderer (hence a targeted attack). Simple, once you think about it logically. And if that's the case, the police probably don't want that information in the public sphere, possibly alerting the killer! Loose lips sink ships! 😉

it is really hard to follow so nobody can figure anything out. and so we all spend time arguing about details. it is fake.

If it's a serial killer they'll probably have to wait for them to strike again to catch them.

What does that even mean, the house was targeted? They should just keep quiet until they can tell us something that makes sense. Good grief.

@keithangstadt4950

Жыл бұрын

It could mean that individuals in the house weren't targeted, but someone who wanted to kill people chose that house for whatever reason. Familiarity, location, ease of ingress/egress, etc.

With all the blood at the scene, did the cops find any footprints that would give them an idea about the size, weight of the killer or killers? Whoever committed these crimes must've covered in blood. Someone explain this to me.

@katiesiouxlamoureaux7757

Жыл бұрын

There were probably quite a bit of prints since several kids went in before emts even. I hope they got footprints from all of them at that moment too, but it doesn't mean one of those kids wasn't the killer either. At this point,it could be anyone

@WakeUpandsmellthecoffee

Жыл бұрын

With the contaminated crime scene it would be next to impossible to determine perps footprints from firsts responders and friends that went in before LE even got there.

@wqv5423ln

Жыл бұрын

The killer likely wore thick gloves & protective gear/clothes. May have had covers over his shoes too

@highmann5914

Жыл бұрын

@@wqv5423ln ok columbo if you say so.

@lisahughes7599

Жыл бұрын

Yes..the killer(s) would have had blood everywhere they walked or touched. That's why I don't get the 2 surviving roommates calling friends over instead of 911. Also saying "passed out" when they would have seen all that blood even if bedroom doors were locked. Makes zero sense.

Actually, Brian has the sixth lease, but he was out of town 😎

What does it mean *residence* was targeted?

Do they consider a serial killer's victims targeted? Or would the house be considered targeted?

Face it, LE doesn’t have anything on this case other than a messy crime scene. Jack shit is what they know and this should be a concern.

This case is becoming harder to solve. There’s no information that atleast shed a little light. Or maybe the police and investigators has already a suspect but they don’t want to reveal it yet.

@fcameron8172

Жыл бұрын

The nosey jealous neighbor who keeps inserting himself in the investigation like when he volunteered his DNA today that he’s confident won’t bring him charges or a conviction because he’s confident he didn’t leave any behind when he killed…oops I mean when he was there visiting the neighborhood girls who rejected and ignored him.

OJ is out of prison. Anyone check if he's been at it again?

What do you think about the value of this house where the crime was commited? Based on a size and location it was a great place to live out of campus, but for the owner probably a good source of income. That horrible crime makes it impossible to rent it out at least for a long period of time...What if the house itself was a subject of deal or dispute between for ex. co-owners...? It was said that maybe the house was targetted not students themselves?

I've always thought about the person who owns the house 🤔

@garybulwinkle82

Жыл бұрын

The home owner is screwed!! Maybe they can turn it into some kind of murder mystery museum and charge admission to see where it all happened. That may be the only thing Moscow ID will ever be known for! They sure can't rent it out anymore!

@streetseal3641

Жыл бұрын

@@garybulwinkle82 oh yes definitely they got to knock it down no matter what and turn it into a memorial. But my gut says something about the home owner because he would know wheres what as far as the layout of the house and how to get in! But that's just my speculation

@hersheyssmith2104

Жыл бұрын

Oh my! That also came into my mind. The owner of the house could also be a person or persons of interest

@moondancer6488

Жыл бұрын

@@streetseal3641 If that's the case, every landlord should be a suspect in every single murder.

@streetseal3641

Жыл бұрын

@@moondancer6488 I'm just talking about the land owner of this house dummy I mean he does know the layout of the house and maybe he could been a creep but yeah you have to investigate everyone at this point no matter what

Who is the sixth person on lease and how do they fit in to this equation?

@canadianbeef1958

Жыл бұрын

The short answer...nobody knows

@dawn1913

Жыл бұрын

they don't, just a bone. my opinion anyway.

@islesofshoals3551

Жыл бұрын

I heard that Kaylee and another girl had recently moved out. They were in need of two new roommates. Just a rumor

Would insist my child came home from school until something is solved. Way too confusing. I'm sad for the people of Moscow.

With the amount of blood loss, has anyone mentioned a 'blood trail' at an exit point of the house? Or, did the person have the time to clean up... if so, does that say something about who might have committed these murders?

@angelbunny4u

Жыл бұрын

Totally possible the killer realized the downstairs roommates had not moved or made any sound orrrr just didn’t know they were even there and he could’ve cleaned up inside the home in a shower. Crazy idea but it would help tremendously when it comes to leaving any sort of trail outside.

There's solo cups in the home seen from the windows. Case closed.

@fulanichild3138

Жыл бұрын

And a neglected plant ffs!

Has anyone thought/considered a beef against the property owner?

@jackwhite4091

Жыл бұрын

What lol. He wouldn't kill people who pay to rent his house lol

@issaahmed8504

Жыл бұрын

Nah Nah Nah!!! nobody wants a property with bad reputation.

@canadianbeef1958

Жыл бұрын

@@jackwhite4091 maybe they weren't paying rent, the covid laws changed all the rules.

@jackwhite4091

Жыл бұрын

Yeah this is his place of business. He would just kick them out.