There is no way a drunk person did this. Absolutely not. Someone needed to have complete control and complete focus to do this.

@Getawayfromme12

Жыл бұрын

@@ThaiThom gives Dutch courage too.

@ThaiThom

Жыл бұрын

Alcohol affects different people in different ways at different times. There is a kind of completely focused, functional drunkenness that exists.

@asspatsandsuperchats6578

Жыл бұрын

@@ThaiThom Nah mate, that's just what people say to justify drunk driving

@BD52Ravens

Жыл бұрын

I mean I was a sloppy drunk. I sure as hell couldn’t have. Doesn’t mean everyone else is tho

@-_YouMayFind_-

Жыл бұрын

@@Getawayfromme12 dutch courage? XD haha I am Dutch

Brian You’re the Man!!! You guys get into information most others don’t think about investigating.

Thanks for having BRIAN reporting about this. I could watch and listen to him all day. He makes everything so interesting (I mean even when news is repetitive).

@kimporter1744

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!

Please note that there was a very heavy fog during the night there. The area of the houses and apartment buildings on the cul-de-sac is (was) nearly pitch black routinely-enough so that folks walking dogs were used to using headlamps for the walks. Fog would be of extra value to person(s) slipping through the area.

@TheIndependentLens

Жыл бұрын

How very classic Jack the Ripper.

@We_Are_All_Vultures

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a horror movie

@OikPoinFive

Жыл бұрын

Chyme scared

@marcopolo-xj4yw

Жыл бұрын

The large apartment building behind the house and especially the above parking lot are key! A perfect spot to watch the house and see everything going on. There was footage on KZread from a neighbor at night showing that u can see directly into the upstairs bedrooms! Crazy. The killer easily entered through the back slider once he saw all lights out.

@ThatOpalGuy

Жыл бұрын

Also a heavy fog inside police skulls.

Brian Entin is one of the best journalist out in the field. I am so thankful he is there on scene!! I feel like he will help in putting this time line together & or help getting important events out to the public.

THis walk was very interesting to see, it made us realised that all those houses are much closer than all previous videos and pictures of the victims' house... very interesting indeed!!

@wilE6764

Жыл бұрын

You can get a good idea on Google maps

@sjg5994

Жыл бұрын

What's sad is that no one saw anything? Close together holding with only clump of trees in back? What is being hidden? What is being covered up? What involvement do these roommates have? If the roommates are innocent, why can't they talk to the parents? What kind of heart do they not have to not want to help them?

@wilE6764

Жыл бұрын

@@sjg5994 I was wondering too if the survivors were even close to the four deceased?..were they friends or just tenants?

@KatieBellino

Жыл бұрын

Yes, The Interview Room Channel has a great video to get an idea of the closeness of it all called "Idaho Quadruple Murders: He Knows the Neighborhood." It blew my mind how close everything is including the Sigma Chi house to the girls' house.

oh my god!!!! an alcohol incident on a university campus????? unbelievable. and at 3am??? impossible. college kids don't drink, and surely aren't out at 3am, right? these guys are soo grasping at anything. leave the investigating to the investigators.

@amorl4520

Жыл бұрын

Agree.. Normal college life.

@lizlee6290

Жыл бұрын

Banfield on the other two of the triplets, " You'd think they'd note the time they left the party." Uh, 3am, frat party, alcohol - ya think? Like anyone who's drunk is going to look at their watch, or even notice who left!! All this speculation by the media and internet posters is just so much effing gossip, gossip, gossip. Grasping at straws. Talking about conspiracies. Just because the police don't blab every detail of the investigation, everyone is whining about how long it's taking. It's not a TV show where the murderer gets caught in one hour.

@hiredgun7996

Жыл бұрын

I know, hard to believe that anything like that would be going on around frat and sorority houses on a Saturday night!

@briannickel6813

Жыл бұрын

I think it's their hyperbolic reactions that is annoying about this clip....🤦

@aprilkendall2335

Жыл бұрын

Lol you said pretty much what I was thinking. A frat party and a field. I can think of a gazillion drunk shenanigans that could go down. Come down south. A field is full of possibilities. Oh how I miss those days.

So the police would have arrived for that complaint anytime between 3:05-4:00AM Wow that is the exact time frame that the murders took place and a short block away from the house, which can also be seen with some obstructions, from the location the police responded to. That means there is a very good chance that the killers vehicle or the killer themself could be captured on that cop cars dash cam while they were driving the area.

@cmaximus1679

Жыл бұрын

Unless said killer was a student or close by neighbor himself & was walking.

@ExoTheDrakoXIII

Жыл бұрын

How do you know it wasn't a cop?

@69adrummer

Жыл бұрын

did the FRAT HOUSE BROS do this?!?! Maybe had one call as a distraction while someone or MORE from the FRAT BRO HOUSE take the others out?!?! It was a DIVERSION from what was going on!!!! hmmmmmmmmm

@iTammy

Жыл бұрын

I would not call the cops for distraction, to much risk! 😏

@ExoTheDrakoXIII

Жыл бұрын

@@iTammy right ... I truly feel and I've always felt that looking outside of the house is futile as the two survivors hold the key and all the information that the cops need to solve this BUT we should also consider the possibility that they are protecting their own or have reason to believe it is a cop or military and are just being extra thorough and slow out of denial? Who knows...

There's probably 100 peoples DNA in that joint

@eternalbliss5189

Жыл бұрын

Even before the murders, if you would've used a blacklight on the house, the whole inside of the house would've lit up like like a Christmas tree.

@chrismccord4475

Жыл бұрын

@@eternalbliss5189 true but you're looking for DNA in all 3 of the bedrooms really. I'm sure in the living rooms/common areas there is all kinds of DNA but unless these kids were getting ran through all the time and had a line of people coming out of their bedrooms, you wouldn't think there would be a ton of people's DNA in their bedrooms.

@debravowell8337

Жыл бұрын

And maybe dozens of the killer......

@chrismccord4475

Жыл бұрын

@@debravowell8337 i just wonder tho, if you walk in there with a ski mask on, gloves and clothes, how much DNA could really fall out? Unless the murdered got injured and bled, I find it hard to believe they could find DNA if they were covered up from head to toe. Obviously if they rolled in there with nothing on but hoodie and pants then possibly but I'd have to assume they were smarter than that. Maybe not

@thehapagirl92

Жыл бұрын

@@chrismccord4475 Sorority girls get run through a lot

I was in college recently and had multiple guy and girl housemates. There is little regard for security especially in a large young household. There is always a level of safety students(and myself) felt just from being close to campus. This accompanied with alcohol consumption(which I also was guilty of) needless to say equates to a situation that could be easily exploited by a sicko. Surprised it doesn’t happen more offer actually.

@Heseesyou

Жыл бұрын

REPENT and believe the gospel

@Better_Call_Raul

Жыл бұрын

It was a known party house. Extremely unlikely that those house parties were restricted to just alcohol. And we also have the two girls *repeatedly* trying to reach the same number around 2:30 a.m. Why the urgency and repeated attempts to reach someone in the middle of the night?! A drug connection to this massacre has to be looked at very closely. 🤔

@wilE6764

Жыл бұрын

​@@Better_Call_Raul they said that's been ruled out

@kittygonzalez2827

Жыл бұрын

@@Better_Call_Raul drugs are everywhere! Especially the killer drugs ....everywhere! If there’s a highway, there are drugs from China to Mexico and poof ...choose your interstate! Humans are trafficked, children are trafficked...drugs...go sue the Sacklers! It’s their creation, their part of donating to humanity! Gates, Soros, Sacklers....the holy trinity!

@joanlynch5271

Жыл бұрын

Whenever I came home to an empty apartment, I always looked in every closet to be sure no boogie men were hiding out.

Why she be cutting people off half way in the story

@mevv

Жыл бұрын

There’s usually a delay in reporter audio, like a bad cell connection.

@Jennifer1Carr

Жыл бұрын

My sentiments exactly. She was still talking. Perhaps they had to cut that part out.

@5boysandamom

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree! For some reason most of these news nation articles are cut off with no reason!!

@eternalbliss5189

Жыл бұрын

So they can Recycle more information on another video.

@pamcornelius9122

Жыл бұрын

She cuts people off who don’t follow the narrative.

When you're at a party you don't keep track of time. If someone says they're leaving, you're first thought isn't to check your watch.

@KatieBellino

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, especially the heavy drinking kind of party that I'm sure it was.

@sadezem991

Жыл бұрын

I thought this, too. It's pretty common to tell someone you're leaving, then get caught up talking to someone/going to the bathroom/etc for 10-30 minutes, especially if people are drinking. I wouldn't think anything of this. In my drinking days, I would constantly get caught up talking to people I saw on my way out, waiting for the other person I came with or getting distracted by something. And I know my friends would do the same thing. I also couldn't tell you exactly what I was doing at certain times during the night or tell you exactly what time I got home. Even if I wasn't drinking. Most people don't pay attention to time that closely.

@NailahRoberts

Жыл бұрын

@@sadezem991 I can still remember my uni days and nobody kept track of time except for when we were meeting up. Like you, I would say that I was leaving but sometimes it would take an hour after bumping into someone you hadn't seen for a while, going the loo, losing who you were with etc. I'm 50 now and I am sure student life is still as busy and party filled as back in the 90's. The whole thing is so tragic. I just wished there had been CCTV on their home although I understand how you have to stretch a student budget. I would like to think that the college board access their funds to offer CCTV to students living in campus homes.

@sadezem991

Жыл бұрын

@@NailahRoberts Yes, exactly! I find it odd that people think it's suspicious when someone doesn't get home right away or they can't recall what time they did something, or even what they were doing on a certain day. And I agree that all schools and universities should have better surveillance to protect these kids. So many unnecessary tragedies and crimes that remain unsolved. Even a cheap Ring-like doorbell would be sufficient and you know that the schools have the budget for that. Protecting these students should be a bigger priority. Obviously it's not the university's fault but I hope more schools start to take the initiative. I just can't imagine how the friends and families are processing a loss like this.

@nymphetamineanonymous

Жыл бұрын

Oh, I do lol

Somebody in that short vicinity knows something.

@sjg5994

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. That's what I'm saying. There is definitely hiding going on and I wonder why? Is the killer someone notable? An officer or the picture perfect student? The roommates definitely know more for sure.

Something else that is interesting is the wooded area behind the house is not very big. It’s more a clump of trees. Right behind it is the parking lot for the apartment building which is just to the right of the house. And behind that parking lot are more houses. Someone could have been watching them from the parking lot and waiting until they knew they were home and passed out asleep.

@bostonsupportslana

Жыл бұрын

I noticed that yesterday. People keep saying woods. Not woods just some trees

@williamstokely9589

Жыл бұрын

Or the few bushes. Because it was dark there up to the night of the murders. They apparently just changed the lights out the day after it happened to light up the area. So they could've been watching them for who knows how long from that back yard clump of trees and you'd never see them.

@amuddymoose

Жыл бұрын

I want to know what is over that hill…did the killer park his car behind that hill and walk over?

@oneballwizard406

Жыл бұрын

Or could even be someone in those apartments whose been watching for months

That was VERY Interesting to see the geography of the area.

It's a great possibility the the boyfriend and girlfriend were followed home and they were indeed the target. Or, maybe the reason there was no forced entry is because the boyfriend and girlfriend actually brought someone home who they shouldn't have trusted. Once the other two girls show up, they immediately become the two other victims.

@gugugaga1998

Жыл бұрын

That was my thought yesterday, what if they were the target, then the 2 girls they tried to call kaylee s ex BF bcz they saw or felt sthing then the were also murdered?!

@jessicajohnson9004

Жыл бұрын

@@gugugaga1998Kaylee and Maddie were in bed, Ethan in the hall and xana had defensive wounds. It’s the other way around if anything. Kaylee and Maddie were targets and xana and Ethan came home and interrupted the killer.

@JosiahPreston

Жыл бұрын

@@jessicajohnson9004 Where did you hear Ethan was in the hall? Im still wondering where they were all located in the house...

@kathleennicastro5888

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@continentalgin

Жыл бұрын

That does kinda make sense.

Your coverage of this tragedy has been excellent. Subscribed

I wonder if the police have checked who did not go to class the next day. Usually the killer misses class or work, if the killer was a student. Maybe they could find something there?

@jlorde8838

Жыл бұрын

They were found on Sunday morning.

@robturner5746

Жыл бұрын

@@jlorde8838 So then "Monday" was the next day...

@unsavablesoul7275

Жыл бұрын

And it’s college people skip classes everyday

@robturner5746

Жыл бұрын

@@unsavablesoul7275 Very true, especially on a short holiday week.

@kariadol1861

Жыл бұрын

Classes were canceled the next day, Monday out of respect.

Someone bring Brian a hot cocoa 😂😂😂 Every time I see him freezing his ass off I feel so bad for him

@pettyaf960

Жыл бұрын

Go take him some

@cmarshun6930

Жыл бұрын

I know the police aren't supposed to receive anything from unknown individuals, but I would imagine that reporters have to follow the same protocols. Otherwise, I would.

@johnandsheilaalderson

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Ashley and other guests are all warm and cozy and poor Brian is standing out in the elements freezing, waiting patiently for his turn to talk. He deserves a raise.

@killmydreamdorothy8800

Жыл бұрын

@@cmarshun6930 lol 😀

I read somewhere that a friend of Ethan’s said he got a text from Ethan around 2am and was still at the party. The friend's mother was frustrated over it because the friend left a message for law enforcement, but LE was still saying he got home around 1:45am, which would have been impossible if he was still at the party at 2am.

@malinaakins3687

Жыл бұрын

Maybe they were the targets

@Crush0819

Жыл бұрын

Also LE would probably keep that secret and say 145 knowing it was later so the killer might know what time he got home . There’s certain information that they won’t put out there completely because they’re doing a lot of interviews trying to catch people lying or who knows more than s and wasn’t around when they first called authorities

@ThatOpalGuy

Жыл бұрын

Cops defending the killer.

@catherinemargaret4137

Жыл бұрын

I saw this, the mother said that the text seemed like it was sent while EC still at party, but can’t be certain.

@ariah9110

Жыл бұрын

@@ThatOpalGuy That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard so far about this case!

That, right there, is why Brian Entin is the BEST! He gives the details other reporters overlook.

I love Brian the way he give the information to keep a update he’s so professional OK 👍 Excellent job

It almost sounds like Ethan and Dana were possibly murdered first and Maddie and Kaylee second based on this narrative??! Wow their house is so close to the frat house now that this video makes it clearer...still so sad and I hope they find out who did this..thoughts and prayers to all the families

@CigarKingASMR

Жыл бұрын

Ethan’s brother maybe? He was jealous of relationship his brother had?

@jogirl836

Жыл бұрын

@Sam the great 🤦‍♀️ 🤦‍♀️ some of Yall really be reaching LOL. Please stop. There’s NO way in hell! They were so close it’s not even funny. Not a chance!

@jogirl836

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think it was ANYONE from the area. I think it’s someone the girls tan across a while back or had some words w on social media. Like they rejected someone and they didn’t like it. He was prob a loner growing up and was bullied by people like this. The “popular kids” and he snapped. Same thing w school shooters. This guy didn’t drive, he walked in the wooded area behind the house and sat and waited as I’ve said since day one until the lights went out and there was zero movement. Whoever this is had planned this for a while. It was not suddenly from that night. Guarantee it! And hell no he didn’t leave the knife, he’s keeping it for trophy purposes! He has never killed in his life either. Either he’s a hunter or was in the military at one time or another. ESP w the knife used. That’s a military type knife. Unless he had family that was and took their knife. But saying his own family did it, that’s like saying the cops did it. NOT LIKELY at all!!

@CigarKingASMR

Жыл бұрын

@@Getlostandwander well we wouldn’t have to speculate if they released more info!!!

@CigarKingASMR

Жыл бұрын

@@Getlostandwander or if cops weren’t back and forth so much and being so weird w this case

I wonder what police dash or badge cams could have picked up during that call. 🤔

@ExoTheDrakoXIII

Жыл бұрын

Nothing, they probably "malfunctioned"... Or something? I don't see how ANYONE trusts American police. There's something very often different about them compared to other police but even without that they just seem lazy and as if they don't care but anyways don't hold your breath

People call police for all types of reasons. They are really grasping at straws here.

@onelittlelamb4030

Жыл бұрын

Track down this commentor. Could be the killer. This is the only best clue I’ve heard…

@danieldemayo6209

Жыл бұрын

@@onelittlelamb4030 or is it you?! ;)

@blue-calla

Жыл бұрын

While it’s a true statement that “people call police for all types of reasons,” the report clearly shows the reasoning for the call. LOL.

@Christina-71

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! She claims the call was around the time of the murders, well we don't KNOW what time they actually happened. Smh, more rumors and the media is complicit in it, as usual.

@blue-calla

Жыл бұрын

@@Christina-71 YOU don’t KNOW b/c you don’t bother fact-checking. LE stated from the beginning that the m*rders took place 3-4am, and they’ve never wavered on that. ICYMI, the ME can determine TOD.

Thanks for your helpful report on a classic murder mystery!

Wow! Thank you for showing us how close the house is to the frat house! Very interesting!

The police need to be interviewing all members of that frat for sure.

We’re their house lights on outside the day the murders happened? It looks pretty bright. How or why would a murderer enter with so much lighting and if there was an offense happening at 3 am a few feet away and a frat house presumbly still with people…wouldn’t they be scared of getting caught? This makes even less sense now

Thanks, Brian and Mo!!

#BrianEntin you are such a great *reporter* #Congrats

@marcopolo-xj4yw

Жыл бұрын

Why? Because he walked up a hill?

@long-time-first-time

Жыл бұрын

@@marcopolo-xj4yw I know. All these Brian fanboys are annoying af. He's doing the job he's getting paid to do. Unless he finds the killer, he's no hero.

@marcopolo-xj4yw

Жыл бұрын

@@long-time-first-time lol. It’s prob him and his friends posting. As soon as he arrived yesterday they were praising how great he was… before he even said or did anything. He didn’t even know the proper terminology to use.

@URightBut

Жыл бұрын

@@marcopolo-xj4yw likely a bot to promote channel

Thanks so much guys! Someone knows something, that’s too close! #BrianEntin #AshleyBanfield

That’s so close to the murder house.

I love that you guys always send Bryan to go check things out lol I watched him on the laundire case you 2 always keep us so updated I love itt

My goodness that is SO close! If only one of those homes/buildings on the side while walking up the stairs had a ring camera. Could match up times, and possibly see a suspect. Didn't one report say the Frat house has cameras outside? I wonder if it's pointing in the direction across the street where Brian is, and possibly picked up something. Those nearly 5hrs of Ethan and Xana missing could be key.

@kathleenardrey5094

Жыл бұрын

The weather that night was heavy fog. Perfect for a criminal, but disappointing for any cameras. Spooky. Creepy. A living nightmare.

@ExoTheDrakoXIII

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it has cameras on one side of the building and that is how they know who arrived to the house in the morning after the intentional and vague 911 call but they are not cameras around the entire house and that is why the cop started a believing somebody slipped through the back door but it's all speculation... The only thing they know is that four people were killed, two survived and were probably misleading, intentionally vague and appears as if they were on scene of the crime doing who knows what and for who knows how long. The rest is speculation and pleading to the public for help

@el34glo59

Жыл бұрын

I doubt it's related

I have heard one report say the sliding door was unlocked and another speculate the front door on the bottom level was where the killer was thought to have entered.

@aria1970

Жыл бұрын

I saw a thing saying the sliding door was found open as well 🤷‍♀️

I have been to parties at that frat house and there is no way you would be able to notice if someone left unless you were a close friend hanging out with him. It’s complete chaos, dark and I remeber sticky floors. So gross.

@sjg5994

Жыл бұрын

Oh wow

@ExoTheDrakoXIII

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but how long ago and who lived there?... Also, during this time frame, you don't think you would be able to notice? Chaos doesn't last until 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning usually but you make it sound as if it were all waking hours and non waking hours of the day and night?

The kids phones must be a trove of information

@dorothymiddaugh6234

Жыл бұрын

There's a thing called Geo Tracking, and they can tell who's where just from their cell phone location. That's how they found out a lot of the fraudulent ballot stuffing in Arizona at ballot boxes for 2020. Many of the same people went from a central location to the same drop box several times. Hopefully they can figure out something from that.

The way these reporters, podcasters, KZreadrs act like they are entitled to information about an ongoing investigation is unbelievable.

@jacekwaasiewicz716

Жыл бұрын

well its their way ot getting money so nothing shocking here, worse with just random internet ppl who dox innocent dudes

Love Ashley! Glad I found her!

I think it would be weird if the police WEREN’T called to a large frat party.Seriously. Didn’t any of these people go to college?

@chyennele1101

Жыл бұрын

Probably not. Too much nonsense here

@ExoTheDrakoXIII

Жыл бұрын

College kids don't call the cops the same way they used to but in hindsight maybe they should have in this case instead of waiting until noon? It's Culture. As always...

I have *always* thought those frat places were a "bad" *bad* idea!!! Too many Crimes AND deaths have happened related to this group or whatever you wanna call it!!! BAD, BAD, BAD THINGS!!! 😤😤😱 AND "YES"....DEATHS!!! And Ashley, as much as I really like you, buckling down and getting the education a student needs to reach their "goals" should be the highest priority a student should pay attention too, NOT having "the time of their lives"!!! It's very expensive to the parents for their child to party all the time!!! JMO...🤔🤔🤔

Keep up the amazing work!! ❤🙏🏼🌻

On scene reporting in such a cold freezing late night is really tough.... Brian Entin is no doubt did an excellent job taking us through this. Job well done though!

Those houses /apartments are very close. One neighborhood mentions that he can literally throw a baseball at their front door. Something along those lines were said.

The only interested tid bit to come out of this is the proximity of the frat to the house (by extension, the other landmarks the four were known to have been at earlier in the night). They're way closer to the house than maps give the impression of - gives rise to the notion that whomever did kill them, could have been keeping tabs on the primary target vs simply stalking the house. Not much of a stretch to believe that someone could have waited for said target to leave an area, assuming that due to the time of night it was probably a last stop before heading home, then made their way with it maybe being 5-10 minutes tops to get there.

Ashley Banfield is informative,I appreciate her for reporting this case. Thank you

Nothing good ever happens after midnight. RIP & prayers to the families 😿💔🌹🌺🌷🏵️

@dyingtono

Жыл бұрын

The saying is 3 am. I’ve been to college. Quadruple knife homicides don’t happen, period. And if they do, they don’t get botched like this. Nor explained away initially as targeted attacks and then left cold. Moscow PD needs to relinquish control to higher powers.

@COlson-rh3dg

Жыл бұрын

@@dyingtono Date rape, drugs and other crimes= nothing good happening after 12:am

Why are no photos of the sorority or frat event that took place that night? Sounds like it was a formal type of event? I also find it so insane that there’s literally no information on their locations between 1 and 145.

@joshscott3184

Жыл бұрын

I've been thinking the exact same thing in my head...I have a weird feeling that this case has some big names involved and will never be officially solved .

@justintruesell2062

Жыл бұрын

Will there could be. It is just not in our hands.

@chyennele1101

Жыл бұрын

Who says there's no photos?

@joshscott3184

Жыл бұрын

@Chyenne Le well of course there's photos that's my point.. try and keep up.

@lebski6033

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure the police have their hands on hundreds of photos from that night. Probably interviewed every single fraternity brother and their dates.

Would somebody please knit a cap for Brian Entin?

@Tsadie1

Жыл бұрын

He has a hood on his jacket. I suspect he prefers not to mess his beautifully quaffed hair. 😊

@wintercame

Жыл бұрын

@@Tsadie1 Good point. It is beautifully quaffed or coiffed, whatever. ☺Maybe he'd consider earmuffs?

Excellent journalism 👏

Why did roommate not call 911 for 8 hours?

Dude dropped his phone and was using the girls phone to call his 6 or 7 times, found it and left.

@RawOlympia

Жыл бұрын

yup and may have been blocked on one

@sjg5994

Жыл бұрын

What if the killer wanted to set-up ex? Who knows? I believe the killer is definitely in their circle. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a frat guy. I wouldn't be surprised if roommates that are alive know who he is. Much is being covered up.

@rg-mi5hh

Жыл бұрын

Woe. Fingerprints on their phones?

They have cell phone records. If the phones were on, and it is very hard to imagine that the phones were not on, they can localize the victim's cell phone to within a relatively small area. They know where those phones were, but the police are not saying.

@jennifermcgoldrick6323

Жыл бұрын

What?? They were all within a couple of miles of the house and the frat house now we see is what? 300 yards away if that? Cell phone data cannot pinpoint location - they would all be hitting same towers miles away.

@onelittlelamb4030

Жыл бұрын

@@jennifermcgoldrick6323 Unless you are using apps that track your exact location…

@jennifermcgoldrick6323

Жыл бұрын

@@onelittlelamb4030who’s using apps that track their every movement unless they are at work in a particular type of job? Even if you have a track my phone app it doesn’t engage constantly.

@Littleone124

Жыл бұрын

@@jennifermcgoldrick6323 mine and my husband's phones know our exact location at every moment, right down to the exact address. If our phones are turned on, our location is being tracked. We can easily see where each other's phones are too at all times. It's a setting in Google maps that you need to have enabled.

@jennifermcgoldrick6323

Жыл бұрын

@@Littleone124 college students don’t do this. They don’t want their parents tracking them every moment. It’s not a normal thing to do.

Great journalism

I've said this from the start.....there are 5 missing hours for 2 people. Where were they, did they have problems at the Frat party, were the people at the party questioned? Why hasn't anything been said about these 2 people taking so long to get home when it was 2 minutes from home.

It was definitely a crime of personal vengeance with hate/jealousy being the motive.

@gugugaga1998

Жыл бұрын

I also agree,and he was following them on social media ene if he s not officially a follower!

@Pro-Deo

Жыл бұрын

@@jaysonb.6669 I'm more certain than unsure.

I swear I'm beginning to think Law and Order: SVU should be brought in to solve this. Nobody's making any headway so...

@chyennele1101

Жыл бұрын

🙄

@URightBut

Жыл бұрын

No sexual assault so it doesn’t apply. But it prob won’t stop the writers from ripping this future episode from the headlines as usual..

A 3am call for an alcohol related offense in a college town on a party night is hardly a revelation.

Dang, great job y'all

As a former college student.. I never knew when someone came, left, etc... people dont keep tabs that closely when drinking. So even if someone said they saw them, to know the exact time would be a stretch... it's no wonder there are "gaps"

@samuelpope7798

Жыл бұрын

It's important to gather that kind of information but I lean towards out of town serial killer. The girls were the target. They had a large online cross section that was probably used in selecting them as targets. The FBI estimates that each year there are between 25 to 50 active serial killers most of whom are never caught.

This is what I’ve hear. The roommate who had a bedroom on the fits floor saw someone, but she was drunk and unsure, she went into the other roommates bed and they went to sleep, the next morning they woke up, still spooked, called a friend to come over and he went up stairs to the bedroom on the second floor and told the girls that you don’t want to see this. They called the police and also called Ethan’s brother. Just hearsay but it makes sense about someone else calling the police.

@samanthab1923

Жыл бұрын

But why use the victims cell?

@renadanicole2343

Жыл бұрын

@@samanthab1923 all reports I’ve read say that the 911 call came in from a surviving roommates cell. Not one of the four deceased.

@samanthab1923

Жыл бұрын

@@renadanicole2343 Oh thank god

This only confirms that locals are keeping quiet. That little area, so close to one another and no one heard or saw shit?! And a college town at that. Young adults like to stay up late. Somebody saw or heard something.

the plot thickens.....who telling the truth and who is covering up?

College campus on Saturday nite and there was police call re drunk person? SHOCKING...

@johnvegas9059

Жыл бұрын

yeah, at the same time as a quadruple murder that happened 300 ft away. It's obviously relevant.

@conradsieber7883

Жыл бұрын

@@johnvegas9059 not relevant at all

One of the girls said they talked to Ethan when the two got home. So Ethan and Xana would of already been there. Also one of the parents talked to Xana and they were watching movies at home.

@nielszindel1151

Жыл бұрын

@@mischaraine1645 ..she was 21. I was a registered nurse at 21 and certainly did not check in with Dad. Delia Morris

The 2 minute walk was already covered a few days ago. Showing a google map walk of 12 minutes and the route, but then showing the cut through route which takes only a few minutes.

Ashley, someone noticed a light in the background which they assume is the home. A light turning off. Or some kind of lighting. Who made the 911 call at 3:01? Would it tie into a phone number of someone that knows any one from the house or frat house? I’m speculating and wondering if it could have been a distraction? The timing of it so is just very coincidental.

@kisiekat

Жыл бұрын

Where is the video that can see the light turning off?

@Alaskandragonfly7

Жыл бұрын

@@kisiekat I’m sure if you Google it, something will come up as it’s been talked about allot already. It’s been posted on Facebook group a few times

@Alaskandragonfly7

Жыл бұрын

@@kisiekat kzread.info/dash/bejne/a4Wrx9xmfZarYJs.html

@valerieh2014

11 ай бұрын

Flashlight

👍for the reporting Appreciate accuracy and quality 👌 🌹 It's a terribly 😭💔case Four young lives taken so needlessly because someone felt they had the right to weild a knife in anger 🙏🙏🙏for the Families and Friends

It’s odd they took so long time to call 911 after find the victims

@shuntubbs2682

Жыл бұрын

Right

@samanthab1923

Жыл бұрын

They woke up late, saw Ethan & ran out.

@kathleennicastro5888

Жыл бұрын

Yes

The interview room, channel on KZread has a wonderful video of the home and where everything is.

This has absolutely every thing to do with the kids in the home.

Chris McDonough of The Interview Room went over the paths between, and proximity of, the various buildings, including behind the house. Love your reporting, Ashleigh. And Brian's too, of course. Just wish your conversations could be longer to really delve into cases. Appreciate your legal input too!

@lindseyhendrix2405

Жыл бұрын

I feel like the actual segments are longer but I have no idea why they cut her show into 5 min or less worth of clips.

@gtshivashiru9601

Жыл бұрын

Chris is awful and police don't like him.He was blackballed for improper tactics.

I pray the person that did this horrible crime is found.

@ironjohn5914

Жыл бұрын

Amen 🙏

Great video

What’s making them believe they all got home at the same time ? They were at two different places.

BanD Field.

Arriving home? The party and home are the same cell tower at that proximity. It's doesn't show them leaving that area.

Yep. Someone walked "directly to THAT particular house" that night. YET, bypassed all the surrounding houses. I believe that house, alone, was "targeted." And BEFORE that night. I believe it's 1-2 local young people who did this crime and KNEW the tenants of that house...

Let the people finish, Ashleigh!

This is all we need to know: Xana’s Mother owns the house. Xana’s mother was arrested in Arizona for trafficking 700,000 Fentanyl pills into the country. The largest fentanyl bust in AZ history. ~$10,000,000 street value. This was two days before the murders. She then skipped her court date after they let her out on a $50K bond. She was again arrested via warrant for failure to appear. She is in custody. The only reason fentanyl comes across the southern border is bc of the Cartel. Period. So, the idea that this was a professional hit is actually one of the most plausible theories to date. What’s strange is that no major media outlet has even mentioned the story, even though there are irrefutable facts that are available to the public.

@bsrvvr8446

Жыл бұрын

This is the first I've heard Xana's Mom owns the house? Are you sure?

@YupItsMeMimi

Жыл бұрын

it has been proven her mother does NOT own that property! it's a man from Colorado. @signsofplay

@ukljucimozak

Жыл бұрын

50k bond for that many pills.. that doesn't make sense

@dillpickle390

Жыл бұрын

700,000 Fentanyl pills and only 50k bond? Yeah right , get out of here.

@bridgey968

Жыл бұрын

Oh god here we go

Cops were called at 3am meanwhile those 4 are back at the house being murdered or just were or were just about to be . the killer was lurking around or inside that house by that time , for sure. Meanwhile, cops are just FEET AWAY literally. A 5 second walk . All while this is happening and while the killer runs free but they wanna ask everyone for any footage from 3-6am that night when they were standing RIGHT THERE. Let’s also not forget that Kaylees last call to Jack was at 252am . Police were called at Band Field at 3:01am. Maybe it was used as a tactic by someone who knew the killer was going to do something really bad so they called the cops about a “alcohol related incident” hoping that by the time they got there, they would catch this guy. But I don’t believe the murders happening at that time and this police call AND Kaylee calling Jack at 252am are all a coincidence. There’s no way. They’re all related somehow

@Sassyglbeauty

Жыл бұрын

Def think it was 3:15 or later since last known call was made at 2:52. Surely, most folks takes a few min to fall asleep.

@kakakakellie

Жыл бұрын

@@Sassyglbeauty I don’t believe they were asleep at all when it happened. Maybe laying in their beds but not asleep. But regardless cops said it happened around 3-4 , I heard a video somewhere on here saying they have some type of reason to believe the murders were between 3-4 . But still, cops called at 3:01, kaylee calling Jack at 2:52. Murders between 3-4. That is not all coincidence there’s no way

@kakakakellie

Жыл бұрын

@@Sassyglbeauty because Kaylee called Jack at 2:52 but don’t forget, he never picked up the phone

@Sassyglbeauty

Жыл бұрын

@@kakakakellie cops called at 3:01?? What?

@LorJuT

Жыл бұрын

Calls and not texts are strange with any adult kids

I knew I recognized Brian from somewhere didn't realize he left wsvn to get to news nation he is a good reporter

what was that call about? if not related, what did anyone out and awake at that time possibly see?

Criminals make a point to look at patterns of behavior, and then leverage that info to their advantage. Most people are so caught up in their own patterns that they overlook the outlying behavior and patterns of others. Hence, important "facts" get missed.

NewsNation sure went down the gutter real fast, add in cuomo. WTF ?!!!

A call about a drunk person in a college town at 3am near a frat house? That's not strange.

I’LL SAY IT AGAIN NO ONE WANTS TO TALK BECAUSE NO ONE ACCUSED BY ONLINE VULTURES...

Why no reports anywhere of Xana's mother being arrested? A high bond too.

@amorl4520

Жыл бұрын

Maybe not relevant to this case

@zzz7zzz9

Жыл бұрын

because that would be another story. this is a murder investigation.

@lawrencejelsma8118

Жыл бұрын

That would not fit. Xana and boyfriend would be drug dealer hit logical but collateral damage on two definitely passed out drunk Maddie and Kylee would not be a why the killer included them.

@gerin.6418

Жыл бұрын

Maddie's step-mom was arrested as well & Kylee & Maddie were in the same room & in the same bed when the murders took place! 🤔

@jlorde8838

Жыл бұрын

@@lawrencejelsma8118 drug dealer hit? Collateral damage? What movies you been watching?

I would dig into the records and look for drug arrests related to that address. Has anyone asked the police if they had information that drugs were being sold out of that house?

@JustMe-gs9xi

Жыл бұрын

Wha?????? drug dealers don't do those kind of crimes!,, Dude,, wtf. Keep Watchin Reefer Madness,,, ?? What are you suspecting here??? a drug dealer (That Makes Zero sense),,, or someone who TOOK drugs,,?? What kind?????? Clarify this geeez

After two weeks of "somebody somewhere did this" I halfway jokingly typed on another vid' "well then where the heck were the Cops at 3am that night". Turns out there was one around there after all.

@jamilabagash149

Жыл бұрын

Then, the cops "done it"!

@1800cc-Dead-Meat

Жыл бұрын

@@jamilabagash149 at this point everybody is a suspect. that puts the police a few hundred yards away at just about the time it was thought to happened. If nothing else, how many units, how many police? When did they arrive, when did they leave? All that body cam / car cam is catching the background. Supposedly there's one way in and one way out for a vehicle. Maybe there's something about the observers if any, or passersby. But again, everybody is a suspect, and everybody caught on that body / car cam was in the area at the time.

@Tsadie1

Жыл бұрын

We don’t know if police responded to the call. There is only a report of someone intoxicated. 🤷🏻‍♀️

@1800cc-Dead-Meat

Жыл бұрын

@@Tsadie1 dang it, you might be right.

@sjg5994

Жыл бұрын

@@1800cc-Dead-Meat Everybody!

dang didn't realize how close the house was

LE should do a DNA dragnet... it's legal. Anyone can say no when asked. Then they upload all that DNA into GEDmatch and find the killers 3rd cousin twice removed and find this killer with some ancestral genealogy.

@REDWASP777

Жыл бұрын

The police in a small town in Massachusetts required all the males to do a DNA mouth swab, and that is how they caught a local guy that had broken into a womans home and then he raped and killed her.

@sandraturner3086

Жыл бұрын

They already have his dna

@Jenn_80

Жыл бұрын

@sandra turner they need a name to match it to sandra. If killer is not in CODIS or anything the DNA needs another way to be identified to a person.

@Jenn_80

Жыл бұрын

@Pamela Bowers there are several cases of DNA dragnets finding killers. Thats why i think they need to do it. I think the key will ne ancestral dna. I dont think this guy is even in town anymore, but his relatives may be.

@sandraturner3086

Жыл бұрын

@@Jenn_80 familial dna A lot of people are downloading their DNA this is one way to get to relatives of perpetrators and to narrow down the pool of suspects

One thing that is so baffling from the two survived roommates is that they did not call 911 they had their friends come over to call 911 that makes no sense at all and they claim that one passed out I mean if those are your friends you'd be picking up that phone in frantic dialing 911 or running out of the house screaming from that horror mayhem scene

@davino108

Жыл бұрын

@W.T. F. Something is definitely not setting in stone it's just not making sense if those were my friends I would have ran up those steps just not adding up I just don't understand how someone could sleep through that if there were defensive wounds then evidently people were screaming and fighting for their life every breath and these people did not hear them at all there is something definitely not right with those two roommates

@davino108

Жыл бұрын

Another thing that's very interesting in this case is that these two roommates have not come forward and discussed anything which is very very strange unless the authorities have told them not to.. it just seems to be very very strange

@davino108

Жыл бұрын

@W.T. F. Remember supposedly they claim that they slept through the whole thing well no one really knows that for sure they also said that they lock their door because they hurt someone come in why would you do that in the first place then they claim that they saw a mask man or person well how could you see that if your door was shut and locked there's a lot of things that are just not adding up here

@kisiekat

Жыл бұрын

Thata not exactly what happened. I thought the same way how odd that was but there is someone who did a video explaining this and it makes so much sense. The other 2 slept late and when they went upstairs to the kitchen they seen the door was open and seen Ethan in the door way of his room I believe, said his injuries were devastating, and they completely lost it and went running outside. One of the girls did dial 911 but she was so distraught and in shock she passed out. Random people walking on the street actually took her phone and talked to 911 operators. That is why the call was about a "unconscious person" the other girl was screaming and so panicked she couldn't even explain how bad what it was she saw and the people from the street went in the house...they apparently knew Ethan brothers and close friends so someone of them called over to the frat house and his brother came over and other people went inside too. This is also why they are saying so much of the scene was compromised due to people rushing in. Even EMS got there not knowing what they were walking into. This makes so much sense as to the call and information around that. Just goes to show how much we all really don't know specific details. Even assuming why did they have a friend call. I said the exact same thing!! Not even realizing there is a whole situation around it and how so many things we just don't know where we wonder why can't they just tell us who did it. Its far more complex then just basic police work. Imagine how many people go in this type of house. I am so ready for them to figure it out but this showed me gotta wait for them to work through all this stuff. Cannot even imagine how much information they are fielding. Such a terrible situation.

@davino108

Жыл бұрын

appreciate you explain that to me it does make also they mentioned that Jack gone into the house and he checked on Ethan but never checked on his ex-girlfriend. That is very strange..I could discuss this all day long.. I'm going to simplify this the person of interest is right in front of their face they just excluded that person way way too quick and believe that that person could not do that..

Hard to believe no one saw and heard anything

Could it be that the perp(s) entered through an upstairs balcony? Were they found locked or unlocked? -Also, it seems that if someone is in bed like that, under the usual sheet, blanket, & spread, the typical blood splattering on walls & ceiling wouldn’t occur when an artery is sliced. -If a victim is smothered with their own pillow while being attacked, would that muffle their screaming? Or, perhaps an ether ladened hanky was used? -Any maintenance done on that residence lately? (Someone casing the place) Maniac(s) on the loose!

Who leaves a party at 930

@URightBut

Жыл бұрын

Most of us didn’t even leave to go out until 11pm in college

What if it wasn't even the girls calling the ex boyfriend, what if it was the killer trying to cover some tracks, the boyfriend didn't answer right so how do they know? She left a voicemail?

@EmmanuelTiburcio

Жыл бұрын

Exactly my point, he could use both phones to do that, isn’t that weird? Your friend calling you ex 🤔🤔 there’s a reason for that

@wilE6764

Жыл бұрын

And what if his mother is providing a false Alibi?

@kaygates4224

Жыл бұрын

Yeah idk super weird though, especially that her friend called his phone at that time of night, maybe just being drunk and emotional and trying to get him to answer the friends phone cuz he wouldn't answer hers? He didn't look like a big guy though I feel like whoever did this must of had a good amount of strength to take out 4 people, drunk people or not.

@cristinamartins2761

Жыл бұрын

It's not that weird when you are drunk and want to talk to your ex you are still in love.In the case of Faith Hedgepeth her roomate and Faith(the girl stabbed)it happened the same thing,they return to tge house fraternity after a night at the bars,both were drunk and both called a bunch of times the ex boyfriend of one of the girls.It's a friend thing your ex don't answer you let's try with another number.

@EmmanuelTiburcio

Жыл бұрын

If you guys watch the video of the food truck, there’s a moment when they crossed paths, he’s attitude towards her wasn’t the most friendly and the look that he gives her 🤔 once they were about to leave the food truck and he noticed it, he started walking to the left trying to make it look he was going with the other dude, all of the sudden he makes a sharp right going towards the car that picked the girls up and I think he went inside that car and got in the house with them and the rest is history. I think the cops knows that, but they haven’t been able to get enough hard evidence to prove it. They won’t find anything out of the ordinary in the house or in the community for that matter, no clues, no videos, nothing because his dna it’s all over that house as is supposed to. But I’m not a cop, let’s see what happens

I thought they said the area around the house was really dark? Seems pretty lit up to me, at least from the front.

I'm sure their phone pings can place them exactly where they were in that time.