I remember when they used the 3208 the transit style school busses. If they were geared right. They ran like a champ for sure.

Had a 3208 in the 30 ton farm truck that hauled everything, did regular maintenance and never had a single issue. The truck had over 130,000 miles and always started on the first crank.

@patrickyoung2117

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Larry. Yup you keep 'em running daily and they have less of a chance of pump freezing up.

I never saw any manufacturers engine that didn't have to be maintained. The problem is that people always have time to rig the crap up to keep it running but never time to fix it right.

@Northern_Farmer

7 жыл бұрын

Any cat 3208 I have had... has had to have the fuel pump replaced.

@dozerfarms

7 ай бұрын

@@Northern_Farmer And? Any 5.4 Triton I have had has had to have the rocker arms replaced. Oddly enough, every Duramax I have had has gotten stuck in limp mode. No engine is perfect, every engine has to have a weakest point. For the 5.4 it was rocker arms. For the Duramax it's always computer-related. For the Powerstroke it's almost always the glow plugs. And unfortunately for the 3208 it was the fuel pump. Just be lucky it wasn't tapered crank bearings or dropping valves... It can always be worse

We had these engines in a fleet of cement mixers back in the 1970s. They have bad overheating issues and would blow the head gaskets. The mechanic have one of these on the engine stand rebuilt all the time because he was constantly having to change them out.

I think I would replace the governor shaft seal. They will such air in around the shaft. First indication is haveing to bleed at startup. Next they will start to die when they idle down.

I have riden in a few school buses back in the early 90's with this motor. Those buses would go from fremont ca to san jose, santa cruze watsonville and gillroy without any trouble. The only time there was an issue was with an overheating issue that the driver had indicated to me that the mechanic was looking at while I was waiting to take off for home on a friday afternoon.

@patrickyoung2117

4 жыл бұрын

YOUR EXPERIENCE, NOT EVERYONE'S, NOT MINE. I've had at last 10 3208's. They start, run, but the pumps are a poor design

@PuBearsticks

5 ай бұрын

I currently own a school bus with a cat 3208. It's from 1982 and still runs like nobody's business. She does get hot if you keep her wide open for top long but she cruises right along at 65 no problem

Maybe it just leaks back through the lift pump

Yea.. We have it on full throttle... only way we can get it to run

Merhaba 3208 grove crane vinç var silindir kapağında bulunan oringi patlatti değiştirmek zahmetli mi acaba

I just picked up a 1980 ford 7000 with the 3208 for free the engine spun a bearing and im going though the process of rebuilding it getting the block rebore and all

Just got my first 2 about 2 years ago in a boat. 425hp versions. Just had the first issue almost looking like this video in the beginning part. But much worse. Mine has major blow by. Like the amount if you reversed your hoses on a shop vac and vaporized the oil as it shoots 10 feet out the crank vent. Def a hole in a piston I believe. If anyone knows anyone in the clearwater florida area that knows these cats please let me know. 🙏 BTW this was not the engines fault. It was an inexperienced captain who drove with 20 feet of rope around the prop coupled with 10" play on the water pump belt. He used 30 gallons more fuel than the other engine on a relatively short ride...at night. Smh

Another thing I was oging to add. If I was able to drive I would even get a current ford f250 f350 or f450 and get my hands on a cat 3208 and have it installed with a manual transmission. The cat 3208 can from what I have seen outlast and outperform any of the powerstroke or any of the newer diesels that are being produced on the market today.

@Northern_Farmer

8 жыл бұрын

I have a 6.4 POWERSTROKE and its a great motor... all deleted of course.. thats the killer for those engines.

@rileykirk11

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Blackstone out last maybe outperform no way

@jeffa8683

11 ай бұрын

Out perform a powerstoke everyday I run one in my pulling tractor those motors can take serious punishment especially in a boat with unlimited cooling but they weren't sleeved so tons of hate

@:45 what is the function of that valve?

@geeyore7726

3 жыл бұрын

That is the hand primer pump on the fuel line. They are a problem because the seals will fail allowing air into the fuel system.

Take a fuel line off down by the water separator and put on a lift pump we did that to ours and it's ran for years

@Northern_Farmer

10 жыл бұрын

Hmm maybe I will try that. Thanks for the tip. What brand of lift pump did you put on ?

@aaron50801

10 жыл бұрын

A carter rotary vane pump similar to this. www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000CIQ5DG. Napa carries them, no need for the high performance version standard pump works fine.

Reseal the injection pump. Those seals don't last forever! Get a diesel guy over there not. A farmer lol

@Northern_Farmer

7 жыл бұрын

Diesel guy was over... told me to put a electric lift pump on

@Northern_Farmer

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Loyd.. cat mechanic said to just get another engine and put it in..cheaper..

naw, its a fuel leak. just replace all your soft lines, banjo crush washers, ect. kit shouldnt be to much, and it will fix your issue. if it were the pump you would have issues while running.

@mr.slaphappy3794

3 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily. Have a mk1 Clio with a leaking injection pump. Very difficult to get running once it's sat overnight, but the second it's running, despite the first 30 seconds misfiring and smoking, it runs fine. But on an old diesel with air "leaks" the first thing I would do is exactly what you said, replace all the rubber return hoses (had those start leaking on many of my our old diesels). Edit: oh wait sorry your post is over 5 years old... oh well.

I have the same problem, what was your solution?

@Northern_Farmer

2 ай бұрын

Get another engine

When this video was playing a Cat add popped up.

@Northern_Farmer

8 жыл бұрын

did you click on it?

@randymarek3332

8 жыл бұрын

No.

@Northern_Farmer

8 жыл бұрын

I do.... some have some good websites to look at

Cat engines are good not crappy

@Northern_Farmer

4 жыл бұрын

3208s are crappy

@zlaba8472

4 жыл бұрын

3208s are good my international has one and it's fine

@Northern_Farmer

4 жыл бұрын

@@zlaba8472 nothing but problems with any that I have had...and we have gone through 5 of them

@zlaba8472

4 жыл бұрын

Oh

@VenturiLife

2 жыл бұрын

They are a fully mechanical engine usually with no onboard electronics, no cylinder liners, fairly high maintenance and with their own quirks like most engines. Like anything, maintain it well and it will last. Fuel pumps are expensive items for these, but a lot of the other parts are pretty cheap. Fully cast iron heads/block with gears so they are extremely heavy for a big 8 cylinder 10.4L with just 375hp (with turbo) output. If you had a 210hp version, the question is .... why bother?? Some early versions have a cast iron camshaft which sucks! Later ones were forged.

Thats a loud cat

@squach6239

7 жыл бұрын

never seen a 3208 with a turbo. Drove a 3500 gal. tanker with the "high "output version 250or275 horse.Had a badass Ford/Grumman Firecat pumper with a standard 3208 210 horse power. Now the farmer I work for has a standard 210 horse 3208. All of them nonturbo . what's the hp with a turbo?

@midtiertom

7 жыл бұрын

Depending on the application.. My dad worked for a Caterpillar dealership about 20 years and could get a marine 3208TA to turn 475HP. Said it was not pleasant to be in a pleasurecraft next to one (or 2 in this case) while it was running, but it would do it.. He built a lot of truck engine 300's that were just T models, most NA engines were 210, and were more or less a dog. Turbos and aftercoolers were where it's at on the 3208, according to him, but different pistons, rods, camshafts, injectors, ect were needed for major power changes.. I'd talked to him a lot about putting one in my Chevy truck, and that was he told me about them. Said maintenence was the key to keeping them alive. In the end it was cheaper for me to just rebuild my 6.5 GM, add an aftercooler, and what not, than to repower with the Cat, but it would have been cool.. lol

Oh wow that is bad

fords infulance built this.gas engine rpm,through away block,a school bus engine.

cats don't belong in agriculture😬, why do these companies do this?