Anne and Ann | Gentleman Jack | s02e06 | People are laughing at us
#GentlemanJack #AnneLister #AnnWalker BBC and HBO original serie Gentleman Jack 2x6
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@slavomirasvihlova83912 жыл бұрын
In first episode of second season Ann tells to Anne that she doesn't deserve her. I think Anne doesn't deserve Ann. I feel Anne is so cruel to Ann sometimes.
@laurenf4407
2 жыл бұрын
Wait until you read her diaries. It’s deffo a two way street
@andreanunez_piano
2 жыл бұрын
As Angela Steidele says while writing her most recent biography: Anne Lister seduced me and then betrayed me. She also says that she was very passionate, elegant, Smart but she was also a monster with her lovers
@Nisa1971
2 жыл бұрын
Anne is dismissive but Ann is manipulative. I'm not fooled by the doe eyes and soft voice.
@twobluestripes
Жыл бұрын
Anne sees Ann’s intelligence and capacity for independence and mental health when no one around her did. And through their life together she does all she can to protect her (legally) when her mental health and her estate management takes a turn, including acting fast to travel together in Europe again, stepping away from her own business affairs at Shibden that need her attention, in order to lift Ann’s spirits and not let her family institutionalize and take full legal control of her. From what I had read so far, they seem to have had marriage ups and downs around personality, emotional needs, physical/mental health, etc like all relationships do, and didn’t always treat each other well (and I thought Season 2 showed that really well in their interactions), but they both wanted a partner to see them and admire them for who they were, share life and commit to them, and found it in each other, so in that way, I think they really did deserve each other in the best sense of the word! Anne deserved someone who had the courage deep down to move in and live as companions and admired her traits that even her immediate family and past loves were sometimes embarrassed by, and Ann deserved someone who could take care of her without treating her like an invalid and encourage her in her confidence and her interests like travel and art. I am still hopeful we’ll get a new network onboard for Seasons 3 and 4 after HBO did everyone so dirty, so we can see the portrayal of their later years together.
@christinanguyen4619
9 ай бұрын
@@twobluestripes you articulated that so well! I totally agree with you.
@downeastxg2 жыл бұрын
Love the line: "...I saw for the first time the real you" Walker needs to find the freedom to be who she was meant to be, not what the tribe reduced her to, and Lister is helping guide her back to whom she was meant to be. I love these scenes where there is a mature sharing. I see Lister's love for Walker and even more pronounced I see true caring by Lister. Love after all is just a word; Any good therapist will tell you so. It's all the actions in a relationship that creates a marriage. Lister is carrying the load of estates and a woman who was never allowed to expand into her own womanhood. Gosh, I will miss these two characters. Love Suranne & Sophie together, as said often, their chemistry on screen is stunning.
@clairechiaranycgal2387
2 жыл бұрын
I am so deeply touched. You said this so beautifully and I share these observations and feelings as well. 🙏🏾💕🌈
@lynlee94462 жыл бұрын
This scene is so brilliant and well thought out. They bring to the screen real issues that gay people face and how it can break or make them strong. I commend Sally Wainwright for the series and for the actors doing the best on it.
@raulbetancourt5795
2 жыл бұрын
Don't they face the same issues any other couple face?
@TheScientist43
4 ай бұрын
@@raulbetancourt5795Do straight couples deal with the same derision and judgement? No they don't. You've no idea what we've faced so back in your box.
@jasminefrichtl8062 жыл бұрын
I dont like how ann lester cheated on an walker but Im glad she finally let go her ex girlfriend and chose an walker & I it seems like they inspire each other to learn & grow I agree an lester is very cruel to an walker sometimes she needs to grow up on that area
@kimlinden2280
13 күн бұрын
I believe according to the diary, Anne does not appear to cheat on Walker after the marriage. She writes that, on that trip to visit Mariana at Christmas, that she acted with propriety when Mariana visited her room for an hour. It's not clear if the writer just put that in the show for drama. Female Fortune book, that much of the show is based on, has that excerpt about the trip.
@lyndatillett5343 Жыл бұрын
Another great scene 👏
@elexelthemoody2 жыл бұрын
What a moment.
@enterprise28672 жыл бұрын
Master Performances...👍💯🧡🌹🧡
@Marie-ri1bh2 жыл бұрын
Is it me or every kiss seems sensual?
@thegayestgay
2 жыл бұрын
Nope. It is not just you 😭
@softtailgirl022 жыл бұрын
HBO cut the last 10 seconds of this scene! Why? 🤷♀️🤦♀️
@foxytravel71602 жыл бұрын
Oh , this is the good one!!!!
@rachelwright93332 жыл бұрын
Perfect!!!❤️
@softtailgirl022 жыл бұрын
Powerful scene between Anne and Ann!! Am I right that we didn’t see a scene at Nicholson’s in this episode? Are we to assume that they were taunted in the store due to the marriage announcement?
Is there any chance you could go back and do this for season1?
@throwback1009
2 жыл бұрын
yes, when season 2 ends, I can add some scenes from s1
@thegayestgay
2 жыл бұрын
@@throwback1009 thank you ☺️ ❤️
@basiagajewska47532 жыл бұрын
Super😘
@deborahmcgavin59212 жыл бұрын
WoW
@elainadunn8209 Жыл бұрын
I need to know that elizabeth is ok
@leeana52812 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏
@cypher81932 жыл бұрын
Why's she calling hwr adney
@throwback1009
2 жыл бұрын
It's her pet name.
@ronhunt2254
2 жыл бұрын
Adney bridge is in shibden
@nofirstgonzalez7888
2 жыл бұрын
They change names so their letters can’t be used as evidence.
@knjj40462 жыл бұрын
Where can I stream this serie?
@PoRpLeK
2 жыл бұрын
HBO
@ronhunt2254
2 жыл бұрын
BBC iPlayer
@hakimsamir4492 жыл бұрын
Lekker zoenen
@raulbetancourt57952 жыл бұрын
Whoa, Ada acts better them I expected, in Peaky blinders she barely show her skills.
@kimlinden2280
13 күн бұрын
Peaky Blinders should have used her a lot more. She had some of the best lines.
@JoeyXSmith2 жыл бұрын
Am I only the one who thinks this relationship is quite toxic and manipulative? Mostly on Lister side but both play a part in how destructive it really is. I understand, that giving the time period that this took place. That gay or lesbian relationships, have consequences and harsher repercussions. I still find it quite negative, that this type of drama is trying to romanticising this behaviour as a good thing? I still like to watch the show, but giving some things I've seen online about the show. Saying it's has changed peoples lives or it being positive view of lesbian relationships. Mostly pressing from the BBC. I find that a bit worrying.
@justafan323
2 жыл бұрын
Don't
@morongwawaronamaswabi3935
2 жыл бұрын
Am curious to know more about how you found this toxic
@yawyaw1458
2 жыл бұрын
@@morongwawaronamaswabi3935 the way they manipulate and gaslight each other
@thegayestgay
2 жыл бұрын
@@yawyaw1458 I don’t know. Although I sometimes find it to be overbearing think that it’s very reminiscent of the times. These women have been hurt by everyone around them and therefore in comparison it isn’t as bad as what they’re already facing. They are trying to stop those habits once recognized but ultimately they don’t see a problem unless brought up by one another. We see it as gaslighting and manipulation but they might just see it as healthy communication. And also we can learn what NOT to do with our partners in this situation. 🥰
@nofirstgonzalez78882 жыл бұрын
Newer episodes prove fleeting of drama and story line with more and more sex. It’s like the writers couldn’t come up with good content so they throw in more and more sex scenes. I find this amazing considering that Anne was a real person who wrote a secret one million page diary. Certainly there is content there to be gleaned?
@ohthelovelypoems
2 жыл бұрын
Passion and intimacy are also part of the story. After all the show is a love story between two women, it's never been a show about the success of the coal mine.
@justafan323
2 жыл бұрын
Completely untrue. Alot fewer sex scenes in second season. If u consider this a 'sex' scene then I do not know what else to say. 😟
@kimlinden2280
13 күн бұрын
Considering Season 1 is 8 episodes, there are very few sex scenes. And, Season 2 has very few. Coal mining gets a lot of screen time. And, politics is a big part of Season 2, as well.
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In first episode of second season Ann tells to Anne that she doesn't deserve her. I think Anne doesn't deserve Ann. I feel Anne is so cruel to Ann sometimes.
@laurenf4407
2 жыл бұрын
Wait until you read her diaries. It’s deffo a two way street
@andreanunez_piano
2 жыл бұрын
As Angela Steidele says while writing her most recent biography: Anne Lister seduced me and then betrayed me. She also says that she was very passionate, elegant, Smart but she was also a monster with her lovers
@Nisa1971
2 жыл бұрын
Anne is dismissive but Ann is manipulative. I'm not fooled by the doe eyes and soft voice.
@twobluestripes
Жыл бұрын
Anne sees Ann’s intelligence and capacity for independence and mental health when no one around her did. And through their life together she does all she can to protect her (legally) when her mental health and her estate management takes a turn, including acting fast to travel together in Europe again, stepping away from her own business affairs at Shibden that need her attention, in order to lift Ann’s spirits and not let her family institutionalize and take full legal control of her. From what I had read so far, they seem to have had marriage ups and downs around personality, emotional needs, physical/mental health, etc like all relationships do, and didn’t always treat each other well (and I thought Season 2 showed that really well in their interactions), but they both wanted a partner to see them and admire them for who they were, share life and commit to them, and found it in each other, so in that way, I think they really did deserve each other in the best sense of the word! Anne deserved someone who had the courage deep down to move in and live as companions and admired her traits that even her immediate family and past loves were sometimes embarrassed by, and Ann deserved someone who could take care of her without treating her like an invalid and encourage her in her confidence and her interests like travel and art. I am still hopeful we’ll get a new network onboard for Seasons 3 and 4 after HBO did everyone so dirty, so we can see the portrayal of their later years together.
@christinanguyen4619
9 ай бұрын
@@twobluestripes you articulated that so well! I totally agree with you.
Love the line: "...I saw for the first time the real you" Walker needs to find the freedom to be who she was meant to be, not what the tribe reduced her to, and Lister is helping guide her back to whom she was meant to be. I love these scenes where there is a mature sharing. I see Lister's love for Walker and even more pronounced I see true caring by Lister. Love after all is just a word; Any good therapist will tell you so. It's all the actions in a relationship that creates a marriage. Lister is carrying the load of estates and a woman who was never allowed to expand into her own womanhood. Gosh, I will miss these two characters. Love Suranne & Sophie together, as said often, their chemistry on screen is stunning.
@clairechiaranycgal2387
2 жыл бұрын
I am so deeply touched. You said this so beautifully and I share these observations and feelings as well. 🙏🏾💕🌈
This scene is so brilliant and well thought out. They bring to the screen real issues that gay people face and how it can break or make them strong. I commend Sally Wainwright for the series and for the actors doing the best on it.
@raulbetancourt5795
2 жыл бұрын
Don't they face the same issues any other couple face?
@TheScientist43
4 ай бұрын
@@raulbetancourt5795Do straight couples deal with the same derision and judgement? No they don't. You've no idea what we've faced so back in your box.
I dont like how ann lester cheated on an walker but Im glad she finally let go her ex girlfriend and chose an walker & I it seems like they inspire each other to learn & grow I agree an lester is very cruel to an walker sometimes she needs to grow up on that area
@kimlinden2280
13 күн бұрын
I believe according to the diary, Anne does not appear to cheat on Walker after the marriage. She writes that, on that trip to visit Mariana at Christmas, that she acted with propriety when Mariana visited her room for an hour. It's not clear if the writer just put that in the show for drama. Female Fortune book, that much of the show is based on, has that excerpt about the trip.
Another great scene 👏
What a moment.
Master Performances...👍💯🧡🌹🧡
Is it me or every kiss seems sensual?
@thegayestgay
2 жыл бұрын
Nope. It is not just you 😭
HBO cut the last 10 seconds of this scene! Why? 🤷♀️🤦♀️
Oh , this is the good one!!!!
Perfect!!!❤️
Powerful scene between Anne and Ann!! Am I right that we didn’t see a scene at Nicholson’s in this episode? Are we to assume that they were taunted in the store due to the marriage announcement?
@joelsantosalvesalves2425
9 ай бұрын
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@joelsantosalvesalves2425
9 ай бұрын
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@joelsantosalvesalves2425
9 ай бұрын
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Okay, I'm a little weepy now.
Is there any chance you could go back and do this for season1?
@throwback1009
2 жыл бұрын
yes, when season 2 ends, I can add some scenes from s1
@thegayestgay
2 жыл бұрын
@@throwback1009 thank you ☺️ ❤️
Super😘
WoW
I need to know that elizabeth is ok
👏👏👏
Why's she calling hwr adney
@throwback1009
2 жыл бұрын
It's her pet name.
@ronhunt2254
2 жыл бұрын
Adney bridge is in shibden
@nofirstgonzalez7888
2 жыл бұрын
They change names so their letters can’t be used as evidence.
Where can I stream this serie?
@PoRpLeK
2 жыл бұрын
HBO
@ronhunt2254
2 жыл бұрын
BBC iPlayer
Lekker zoenen
Whoa, Ada acts better them I expected, in Peaky blinders she barely show her skills.
@kimlinden2280
13 күн бұрын
Peaky Blinders should have used her a lot more. She had some of the best lines.
Am I only the one who thinks this relationship is quite toxic and manipulative? Mostly on Lister side but both play a part in how destructive it really is. I understand, that giving the time period that this took place. That gay or lesbian relationships, have consequences and harsher repercussions. I still find it quite negative, that this type of drama is trying to romanticising this behaviour as a good thing? I still like to watch the show, but giving some things I've seen online about the show. Saying it's has changed peoples lives or it being positive view of lesbian relationships. Mostly pressing from the BBC. I find that a bit worrying.
@justafan323
2 жыл бұрын
Don't
@morongwawaronamaswabi3935
2 жыл бұрын
Am curious to know more about how you found this toxic
@yawyaw1458
2 жыл бұрын
@@morongwawaronamaswabi3935 the way they manipulate and gaslight each other
@thegayestgay
2 жыл бұрын
@@yawyaw1458 I don’t know. Although I sometimes find it to be overbearing think that it’s very reminiscent of the times. These women have been hurt by everyone around them and therefore in comparison it isn’t as bad as what they’re already facing. They are trying to stop those habits once recognized but ultimately they don’t see a problem unless brought up by one another. We see it as gaslighting and manipulation but they might just see it as healthy communication. And also we can learn what NOT to do with our partners in this situation. 🥰
Newer episodes prove fleeting of drama and story line with more and more sex. It’s like the writers couldn’t come up with good content so they throw in more and more sex scenes. I find this amazing considering that Anne was a real person who wrote a secret one million page diary. Certainly there is content there to be gleaned?
@ohthelovelypoems
2 жыл бұрын
Passion and intimacy are also part of the story. After all the show is a love story between two women, it's never been a show about the success of the coal mine.
@justafan323
2 жыл бұрын
Completely untrue. Alot fewer sex scenes in second season. If u consider this a 'sex' scene then I do not know what else to say. 😟
@kimlinden2280
13 күн бұрын
Considering Season 1 is 8 episodes, there are very few sex scenes. And, Season 2 has very few. Coal mining gets a lot of screen time. And, politics is a big part of Season 2, as well.