Anish Giri & Jorden van Foreest on Dutch TV after winning Tata Steel Chess 2023.
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Anish Giri and Jorden van Foreest on Dutch TV (Khalid & Sophie show, 2023-01-31)
talking about Dry January, defeating Magnus Carlsen and winning the Tata Steel Chess tournament 2023.
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Just realized, both Anish and Jorden did things perfectly to make sure it was a Dutch win.
@crisanpaul4727
Жыл бұрын
yeah, it's like they were playing for the olympics
Ik schaam me als Nederlander echt een beetje voor hoe weinig respect deze topschakers krijgen. Giri is echt een intelligente en welbespraakte man en de nummer 1 van Nederland! 🏆
Altijd vervelend hoe de interviewers over schaken praten. Een van de grootste toernooien ter wereld in een van de grootste sporten ter wereld word een "potje" genoemd. Anish is een top speler van de wereld en verdient veel meer respect dan hij en ook Jorden hebben gekregen hier
@roughtoughcocopuff9313
Жыл бұрын
Dat wijf weet er overduidelijk niks van 🙄
Anish en Jorden zijn geweldig. Sorry maar de interviewers en gasten doen net alsof het kinderen zijn. alsof ze praten tegen een persoon met een verstandelijke beperking.... deze mannen zijn de top van de wereld! een vraag aan het begin over alcoholgebruik, en later "heb je wel een sociaal leven". Vragen om koppen in de krant te scoren. respectloos echtwaar.
@geert574
Жыл бұрын
TV is ook voor achterlijken
@mabu1760
Жыл бұрын
waar je allemaal niet verontwaardigd over kan zijn... wees blij dat schaken nu super populair is en dat 'wij' namens Nederland een fantastische representatie t.o.v. de rest van de wereld hebben
@Renan-YT
Жыл бұрын
In het intro begon ze al! "Anish Giri won dit jaar na tig pogingen eindelijk...", alsof vaak proberen heel erg is ofzo en het minder knap is daardoor.
@Renan-YT
Жыл бұрын
Pff en ook op 7:12 beetje denigrerend wel
@Roverde
Жыл бұрын
Mee eens, tegelijk is het natuurlijk wel zo dat kwa schaken NL erg achterloopt op landen zoals Amerika, India enzo
Thank you so much for all the subtitles!
@itshenkjan5245
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! It took me quite some time to make them 🙂
@utkarsh96aware
Жыл бұрын
@@itshenkjan5245 Really Appreciate that.
@itshenkjan5245
Жыл бұрын
@@secretname4190 Yes. I first made it in Dutch and after that KZread made translations itself.
@elesexistemmesmo
Жыл бұрын
Whats language are they speaking? Love from Brazil!
@itshenkjan5245
Жыл бұрын
@@elesexistemmesmo Dutch
Wat een onderschatting van het absolute top niveau van Anish en Jorden. Da's net als aan Max Verstappen vragen waarom hij zoveel rondjes moet rijden, vooraleer hij kan winnen.
@justinvansoest7216
3 ай бұрын
ja he, zit al talloze jaren in de top 10 in de wereld en hier kennen mensen m eigenlijk amper.
Great to see Anish & Jordan! Fantastic promotion for Chess on Dutch national tv yo! ;)
Grappig, ik hoor ze eigenlijk altijd alleen maar in het Engels online. Mooi portret!
That's how you appreciate and celebrate your heroes
@SzrrrkEWL
Жыл бұрын
By not naming the tournament name because that's controversial in this country? :D
@EvertfromNederland
Жыл бұрын
@@SzrrrkEWL Voldemort Steel?
@forefatherofmankind3305
Жыл бұрын
@@SzrrrkEWL why aren't they naming it ?
@mennovanderster5607
Жыл бұрын
@@forefatherofmankind3305 Tata Steel is a big factory that polutes a lot. And i mean a lot. The people living in the area around the factory die younger and have a higher risk of getting cancer. The factory has been a lot in the news lately due to this so people don't really like them haha
@spawner8478
Жыл бұрын
@@SzrrrkEWL 0:44
Goed interview om schaken populairder te maken. Ze hadden dat blindschaken wel even voor kunnen bereiden, zodat een derde persoon de zetten op het bord speelt. Dat blijft voor een leek toch zeer indrukwekkend.
@TacoInvader69
Жыл бұрын
Bg5 is voorbereiding. Beide willen niet verder met die pot haha.
Happy for Anish. Love from India. ❤️
Ik weet niet of de interviewers helemaal door hadden dat Anish de absolute wereldtop is met een denkvermogen die ver boven die tafel uitstijgt. Vond het een wat vreemd interview (met die opmerking rond 7:12 als toppunt)
Two great dudes. Exceptional talents.
What a fantastic interview/celebration.
I just realised van foreest family has been in chess for more than 150 years lol
@christianpetersen163
Жыл бұрын
So he's like the Trevor Belmont of chess.
@JeremyHansPatrick
Жыл бұрын
He even has noble blood
sehr sympathisch alle zusammen (auch die Moderation :))
Congrats Anish!
Hahaha Anish en Jorden nederlands horen praten is nieuw voor me.
Great upload, thx!!
Fijn dat hij de aandacht krijgt! Wel grappig om te zien hoeveel moeite ze doen om niet te zeggen dat het toernooi van tata steel is.
Proud of you Anish ❤️
What a beautiful language.
@mapleleafu
Жыл бұрын
STOP THE CAP
Can't believe I'm watching a talk in a language that I don't understand any of it, but am realizing what they are actually talking :D
@maheshpun4804
Жыл бұрын
Almost like there was subtitles or something
@Aleksandr_Skrjabin
Жыл бұрын
@@maheshpun4804 Really on the edge of having subtitles, sooo close.
Extreem disrespectvol van de interviewer maar vooral de andere gasten. Hoe zij hier twee grootmeesters belachelijk maken alsof het kleine kinderen zijn. Het zijn twee van de top spelers van de wereld en vooral Anish is top 5 en de beste speler van Nederland ooit. Deze mannen dienen veel meer respect te krijgen dan dit.
National treasures
I love the small jabs to each other.
"Dit doen we tijdens een trainingskamp" -"Oh dus je hebt geen leven" Wtf 😂
@yaboyJJJJJ
Жыл бұрын
wat een kutwijf idd. daarna ook met "oh kinderen krijgen is toch gelukt?"
@Don-ev9rb
Жыл бұрын
Ja die vrouw is puur gif! Al had die 'geen leven', hij is een van de beste schakers ter wereld. Hoe kan je iemand proberen naar beneden te praten die ergens zijn volledige leven met hart en ziel aan werkt...
@constantijndekker8343
Жыл бұрын
@@Don-ev9rb Je hebt op zich een punt, maar je moet niet te zwaar tillen aan 1 zo’n opmerking. Ze bedoelde het wellicht niet zo denigrerend als het eruit kwam. We zeggen allemaal weleens iets zonder er eerst goed na over te denken dus gun elkaar een beetje het voordeel van de twijfel 🙂
@Tunkert
Жыл бұрын
@@Don-ev9rb Dat hij met succes ergens helemaal voor gaat is juist bewonderingswaardig. Zou ze ook zo tegen een topschaatser of -voetballer praten?
@Tunkert
Жыл бұрын
@@constantijndekker8343 Oké maar het waren zo ver ik meekreeg meerdere opmerkingen. Zowel "je hebt zeker geen sociaal leven" als, bij het noemen van zijn vrouw en kinderen, "oh dat is toch nog gelukt" (of iets in die trant). Het voordeel van de twijfel zou ik eerder zoeken in dat het misschien speels bedoeld is met een knipoogie erbij, maar ik had ook de indruk dat zij totaal niet meekreeg dat ze het over hun trainingskampbezigheden hadden ipv een doorsnee dag. Alsof het zo verrassend is dat men op een schaaktrainingskamp veel bezig is met schaken.
First time ever I've heard these guy speak Dutch! I've begin to wonderr if Giri even did speak dutch!
@sensei1358
Жыл бұрын
Yea its not his first language
@henkoosterink8744
Жыл бұрын
Flawless.
@aluminiumknight4038
Жыл бұрын
Offcourse he speaks Dutch, he's a Dutch national
just came here after c squared podcast
Beyond awesome
Wow Jorden's family was so cute
The King and the King Maker
7:12 beetje denigrerende opmerking
@remybuitenhuis2433
Жыл бұрын
Ze bedoeld met zo'n druk leven.
@YTIsTakingOverMyLife
Жыл бұрын
that comment wasn't in the translation captions, what did they say?
@remybuitenhuis2433
Жыл бұрын
@@YTIsTakingOverMyLife they said: "oh, you managed to do that". But she meant: to do that with that busy chess life.
@salvatoregiuiliano2043
Жыл бұрын
@@YTIsTakingOverMyLife anish mentioned having a wife and kids. The reply was “oh, so you succeed in that”. suggesting that chess grandmasters are nerds without a social life
@yaboyJJJJJ
Жыл бұрын
@@remybuitenhuis2433 she was trying to make fun of him for having no social life. in a very rude manner.
they are nicw guys too, i like players like Anish who fight hard but not egotistical likw 1 or 2 players become
Gefeliciteerd
Even as English speaker I watched this whole
@albe7292
Жыл бұрын
wow how gracious of you.... thank you very much, we don't deserve you
There both so lovely
Prachting dit interview
The way anish speaks reminds me so much of max verstappen
Jezus wat een slechte voorbereiding van het interview… ze hadden het voorbeeld van Anish moeten volgen en voorbereidingen moeten treffen.
@peacefulmatthias5206
Жыл бұрын
Nu is het gewoon even snel een item maken, vanwege de winst. Maar totaal geen voorbereiding en zeer onwetend over het schaken. Beetje respectloos.
@Zegmaar_Bas
Жыл бұрын
"Kunnen jullie ook visueel schaken?" Echt jezus mina. Volgens de NPO is dit een journalistiek programma. Wtf man. Waarom is onze televisie zo kut????
@henkoosterink8744
Жыл бұрын
@@peacefulmatthias5206 Meeste kijkers weten geen bal van schaken, dus dit was wel ok.
I wanted to hear the rest of that game 9:50
heerlijk deze gozer
7:13 triest weer dat er zo op ze neer gepraat wordt. Anish is echt een miljoen keer slimmer dan de rest aan tafel en ook nog eens heel sociaal. Hij klinkt in het nederlands door z'n accent misschien een beetje als een nerd voor sommige mensen maar als je hem in het engels hoort praten is dat totaal niet zo.
You could say that in this tournament... ...no Dutch was played. YEAAAAAAAAHHHHH
Why are people saying this was a disrespectful interview? Where?
@Tunkert
6 ай бұрын
You can clearly hear they don't give a shit
The attitude of the interviewers is little childish. They look at both players as if they are some exotic species. Needless to say that the implication of many silly questions is that these top level players are abnormal to pursue something as demanding as chess as if other fields do not require huge sacrifices to be at the top. But of course they won't know that since they are journalists. Additionally, it is offensive to bring interviewers with little to no understanding of chess to interview top players about chess. The least they can do is to bring a titled player to engage with both guests and appreciate what they are saying as well as explaining it to others. Yet, all we have is a silly a guy at the end who asked "but who is black and who is white?". This must be the silliest question since white is always the one who start the game as a rule. Unlike the childish interviewers, both Anish and Jorden were mature enough not to expose his ignorance and stupidity, and instead laughed it off and kept silence. The other question about social life is not only disrespectful but implies that the guests are abnormal. It also belittle their sacrifices to reach the top in their field. There is nothing shameful about having constrained social life to reach a higher goal and achieve something of worth. It is actually rare to find smart and well-educated interviewers. They are often stupid and ignorant.
@Dev_712
Жыл бұрын
I agree with your opinion on the childishness of the interviewers and the god awful remarks about social life. But, having (respectful) interviewers with little to no knowledge about a specific topic helps the general audience, who are mostly laymen, get an insight into the topic. It's like interviewing a nuclear physicist. Sure, a college professor will be able to converse in-depth topics with the physicist, but the general audience will remain outside the loop. Having an interviewer with little to no knowledge makes him the proxy of the audience and hopefully that helps in sparking an interest on the subject for the audience members, which is ultimately the goal of the interview in my opinion
@incognitoanonymous5396
Жыл бұрын
@@Dev_712 when it comes to chess, I don't think an interviewer with little to no knowledge about the game and its contours would conduct a successful interview. Little to no knowledge in any field or domain on the part of the interviewer means they would not appreciate neither what the interviewee says nor what they achieve. That's why we have specialists in the media. For example, There are those who specialize in political science and who are able to conduct a successful program in interviewing political scientists among others on certain issues. This applies across the board but it is more crucial when it comes to chess. Your analogy about interviewing a physicist does not work. If the interviewer knows nothing about physics and what physicists do, he/she would be unable to engage with the physicist outside the script. In fact, those who popularize science and introduced it to the public are themselves scientists or in the worst cases postgraduates. This is because to communicate something complex to the public one has to know that complex knowledge and then transmit it in accessible ways. There is a trick that interviewers rely on often times when they conduct an interview with a specialist which is to prepare the questions by consulting certain persons with good knowledge about the field or the domain involved in the topic of the interview. But this makes the interview scripted and dry. Needless to say, the interviewee would feel lack of engagement from the interviewer and might even sense their lack of appreciation of what they said that may need more elaboration. As for this TV program, all interviewers failed on both ends: they have a severe lack of knowledge about the game and what it demands on the one hand, and they too lazy to consult a chess player who has a good knowledge about the game to explain things to the interviewers beforehand, on the other hand. There are huge numbers of good club players and lower FIDE rated players (e.g. FMs, NMs). A successful interviewer should aquire a basic knowledge about the questions she would ask the guest. In this fashion she would appreciate the guest's new knowledge and would engage with them successfully. The least they could do was to consult an expert for the right questions and keep their mouth shut as many interviewers do. But they want to ask whatever comes to their mind and made fools of themselves to anyone who has a basic knowledge about chess and chess world.
What are these translated captions in english xD
@itshenkjan5245
Жыл бұрын
Don't worry. I'll make one in Icelandic :-)
dutch sound a bit like arabic.. but if you follow keenly, guess we can understand few words as they are close to english...
11:35 Anish had hier wel even moeten melden dat Viktor Korchnoi juist steeds sterker werd en zijn beste jaren rond zijn 50e had. Toen hij 78 was zat hij nog steeds in de FIDE top 100!
@jamesvanderhoorn1117
Жыл бұрын
Exceptio probat regulam.
How good is Anish's Dutch ?
@dirozx
Жыл бұрын
Pretty much perfect. Ever so slight accent but it's really good.
@johnvandenberg8883
Жыл бұрын
Very good. Slight accent, but overall he talks like a native speaker.
@criticallikeananalyst9973
Жыл бұрын
Close to native with a slight accent
@nilaso9523
Жыл бұрын
He makes slight grammatical errors. And a slight accent, but overall almost fluent.
@Djellowman
Жыл бұрын
It's far from perfect & you can immediately tell it's not his native tongue.
Wow, they speaks a pretty pretty good dutch!
@henkoosterink8744
Жыл бұрын
?
How many languages Anish can speak? 🤔
@SinisterMud
Жыл бұрын
To my knowledge 3 fluently.... Dutch, English and Russian
Bazen!
they both speak very interesting dutch, strange accents id say
@henkoosterink8744
Жыл бұрын
What do you mean? I hear no accents, as a Dutchman.
@survivaloftheidiots6239
Жыл бұрын
@@henkoosterink8744 Anish zeker wel en jorden een beetje
@_Razpberrie
Жыл бұрын
Both don't sound native.
@petertroep9085
Жыл бұрын
@@_Razpberrie van Foreest sounds native. Has a slight lisp or something to his voice but it's definitely native sounding
@thunder_claw
Жыл бұрын
Jorden heeft geen accent, klink alleen enorm nasaal.
Jordan is very good looking!
@jeanbobbb
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. He's got a great as.s too!
Anish was prepared for the good moves and his opponent blunders but she can't imply that Giri won thanks to an adversarie's blunder, how dare her!
@yaboyJJJJJ
Жыл бұрын
yeah very rude people on that table
@abel2150
Жыл бұрын
@@yaboyJJJJJ I agree. We got some arrogant people who simple can't stand don't successful people. The woman sitting opposite of Giri was very rude. 'So you don't have a social live'. 'Oh you got a wife? That that's possible '?
@wesselvisser5042
Жыл бұрын
@@abel2150i think they struggle to see chess as a sport. They probably put it in the same boat as monopoly or something in their mind. I think the host should have made it way more clear that its even as or arguably more impressive then for example max verstappen or epke zonderland. Or prehaps name the prize money thats involved so people get an idea how serious it is.
@radboudbruinsma
Жыл бұрын
@@wesselvisser5042 Interesting comparison. What would we, chesslovers, think of a person who studies monopoly for 10 hours per day? Maybe we would consider them nerdy as well.
dutch isn't a real language they are just making noises wtf
@dawn21stcentury
Жыл бұрын
I am Dutch and I admit: You're right. 🤣
@xiniks
Жыл бұрын
Shhh, don’t tell them.
@debsaye3360
Жыл бұрын
They are talking abit inarticulaty , so I can see where it is coming from. But if you focus you can notice that Dutch has very similar words to English and German.
What happened to Magnus, anyone?
@pthenu4991
Жыл бұрын
Lost twice, one of them against Anish. First time Magnus lost twice since 2015 😮
@SoberHusky
Жыл бұрын
@@pthenu4991 thanks!
@pthenu4991
Жыл бұрын
No problem! He became 3rd after Anish and Nodirbek, half a point short for the win. Jordan was 10th 2,5 point less then Anish.
2:52 banana split
Is anish's Dutch almost like a native now ?
@iiHawKzZsome
Жыл бұрын
No
@Fishlom
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@leonardd3652
Жыл бұрын
Yes, almost
Wait what? Anish speaks Dutch?
Nihal Sarin from India was able to beat Anish. Nihal Sarin is the promising player and Gukesh too.
De Joop Zoetemelk van het schaken ... ai
@radboudbruinsma
Жыл бұрын
Werd uiteindelijk wereldkampioen...dus laten we hopen dat de vergelijking verder op gaat.
Anish Giri lijkt sprekend op mijn broertje 😅 kan tweelingbroer zijn
@mamudi91
Жыл бұрын
Hij heeft Nepalese roots
Their language sounds like some pre historic tribal type!
kääääääse
No big tv show last year when Jordan won or? Haha
@mrredflame3778
Жыл бұрын
that seems like last year, but last year Magnus won. Actually 2 years ago allready that Jorden won
@rasmus5341
Жыл бұрын
@@mrredflame3778 You are correct. Time moves fast!
@johnvandenberg8883
Жыл бұрын
Jorden is also highly appreciated as a chess talent.
@henkoosterink8744
Жыл бұрын
He was in a talkshow 2 years ago.
Anish Giri zijn Nederlands is een stuk slechter geworden in vergelijking met 5 of 10 jaar geleden.
@henkoosterink8744
Жыл бұрын
Ja, hoor. Pffff.
Anish niet blij met 5 keer 2e
07:13 wat een domme opmerking
I thought he is indian
@Dutch-McLarenJk82-
Жыл бұрын
Nepalese father, Russian mother. Russian born in Saint Petersburg, moved to Japan in 2002. And moved to the Netherlands in 2008.
@henkoosterink8744
Жыл бұрын
No a cowboy.
Potje spelen... Tafeltje verder...
Je begint niet met zwart, maar je speelt met zwart. De enige speler die de partij begint is degene met wit.
@dutchuncle2716
Жыл бұрын
Maar je kan dan wel weer een toernooi met zwart beginnen... Zo ingewikkeld allemaal.
@peterv5924
Жыл бұрын
@@dutchuncle2716 😂 jazeker, daar is schaken simpel bij…
Je moet beseffen dat iemand als Anish 1 uit duizenden is. Deze mensen zijn nog een stuk intelligenter dan een genie als Elon Musk bv. Schakers van dat niveau hebben een IQ van 170+ over het algemeen.
@yaboilars
6 ай бұрын
Iq zegt sws niks. Je kunt heel goed worden in schaken ook al is je iq wat lager, maar ik snap wat je bedoeld. Anish is erg slim en dat kun je ook merken aan de manier op hoe hij sociaal doet.
@CraZyWeZZ
6 ай бұрын
Enig besef wat het iq van Elon Musk is? Dat ligt op het niveau magnus carlsen.
@DivineLogos
6 ай бұрын
@@CraZyWeZZ Ja, het is ongeveer 150. Magnus heeft 180 ongeveer. Dat is wel een groot verschil.
Sorry hoor, maar als je twee kinderen interviewt die samen een potje boter, kaas en eieren spelen. Dan zouden de vragen hetzelfde zijn. Triest dat het op deze denigrerende manier moet gebeuren
he aint netherlandese, hes indian,, you aint trickin us
Leuk dat schaken so populair aan het worden is. Ik was altijd al een groot schaakfan op jonge leeftijd , maar de jongere generatie is er veel meer mee bezig. Ook dankzij Andrew Tate , die het stigma over schakers veranderd heeft. (23jr)
@edwin1379
Жыл бұрын
Ik denk niet dat Tate dat stigma veranderd heeft, want 99% van de mensen heeft schijt aan Tate en/of kent hem niet.
@debsaye3360
Жыл бұрын
@@edwin1379 Je onderschat de invloed die hij heeft onder de jeugd.
Wtf going on with this language 💀
Hahaha sitting down with fascist dutch NPO. Nice going nerds.
@susurrus5047
Жыл бұрын
come on man, stop making such a fuss
@Djellowman
Жыл бұрын
Het is een antivax wappie.
@jeanbobbb
Жыл бұрын
@@secretname4190 NPO is government propaganda pushing globalist psycho views. They believe global warming is a thingy, and also think Ukraine is sad. And yes, they also blackmailed people into taking that experimental injection that this dork above here calls 'vaccine'. What a geek. Man I hate nerds.
@f14b69
Жыл бұрын
hahaha misschien moet jij een keer wat doen aan je wereldblik
@jeanbobbb
Жыл бұрын
@@f14b69 Coming months they will tell you China is also superbad. Let's see if I'm a fortune teller..😉
I felt light gaslighting was to obvious, horrific
Man Anish speaks Russian ,Danish English fluently how many other languages does he speak
@rodneyfungus8249
Жыл бұрын
Dutch……..
@Arc_Soma2639
Жыл бұрын
He lived in Japan, so I guess he probably knows some Japanese.
@NichtWunderkind
Жыл бұрын
He's even good at spanish
@Tunkert
Жыл бұрын
Why didn't you name the language he's speaking in the video lol
@dawn21stcentury
Жыл бұрын
Does he speak Hindi?