It’s even more ironic since flee is nominated

@miscellaneoof

2 жыл бұрын

So were anomalisa and isle of dogs and I wouldn’t consider those kids films

@graftongazaway5633

2 жыл бұрын

They hate the movies they nominated and the ones that won, sometimes, maybe

@Jarvision814

2 жыл бұрын

@@miscellaneoof The oscars is an absolute joke I’m not watching the 2023 oscars

@traviswittliff6368

2 жыл бұрын

Persepolis and Anomalisa are previous nominees as well, which I think makes the whole video even better.

@alwaysbored1700

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jarvision814 whaaaaa no the oscars isnt a dying format that needs attention from social media to stay relevant (ahem the slap ahem)

Let’s not forget that THEY LITERALLY NOMINATED South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut for best song at the Oscar’s in 2000

@Little1Cave

2 жыл бұрын

And as far as I know, it’s the first song nominated to say “fuck”, or at least one of a VERY rare few. Lol

@yourfavouritet3rr0rist

2 жыл бұрын

finally someone mentoined south park

@Danmarinja

2 жыл бұрын

Which song was it? Uncle Fucker? Blame Canada? Edit: just looked it up, it’s Blame Canada

@myang12003

2 жыл бұрын

"Congratulations, you got nominated for being a foul mouth!"

@Bruh-zx2mc

2 жыл бұрын

@@Danmarinja They'll nominate the song about racism, nationalism and radical leftism, not the song where they say fuck a few times.

_"Animation is a Medium, not a Genre"_ _- Brad Bird, Writer of Incredibles and Ratatouille_

@cllifjumperPT

2 жыл бұрын

And director, don't forget that.

@phamtuanphamtuan-cs2lw

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with Brad Bird

@gasterthemaster6490

2 жыл бұрын

He, contrary to who says: "It'S fOr KiDs", is smart.

@crackedemerald4930

2 жыл бұрын

Voice of Edna Mode

@michaelbautista-flores1946

Жыл бұрын

@@crackedemerald4930 and also the voice of ego’s ambrister.

I hate the term “it’s for kids”. People seem to forget that just because something is aimed at a younger audience doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy it.

@Waluigiwashere

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, video games apply this well actually.

@veiserexab1428

2 жыл бұрын

Or you can just ignore them than hate them, otherwise it's exhausting

@colinfahrenkamp8572

11 ай бұрын

Bluey has proven that

"Animation is for kids and we have to hear their songs all day long!" And then they proceed to sing "we don't talk about Bruno " 🙄

@michaelstrong5383

2 жыл бұрын

Not just sing it but also make the song all about the Oscars. Funny how they never do that to any of the nominated songs.

@Da.Liar-Pig

2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact bruno was originally going to be named as oscar But it was change to bruno anyway because they have to fit with the lyrics we don't talk about bruno no no no Incase they kept the name, oscar in the movie it would be called we don't talk about oscar ar ar ar

@billcipher8645

2 жыл бұрын

@@Da.Liar-Pig that would be mroe accurate, no one talks about the Oscars (in good way at least)

@ClaudetteVioletta

2 жыл бұрын

Encanto won and yet they managed to do it dirty. Dos Oruguitas didn't even won tho it fucking deserved it

@PM_VA

2 жыл бұрын

@@Da.Liar-Pig Nah, I'd think the 'ar ar ar' would be replaced with something like 'oh no no'. So it'd be something like: "We don't talk about Oscar, oh no no. We don't about Oscar."

Oscars: “Animation is for kids.” Animators: “People die in Attack on Titan like it’s going out of style.”

@igkslife

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. The thing is though the Oscars fail to understand that there is a age group that is over the age of 12 that isn't kids. It's pass time for them to realize that.

@JordanWheeler1999

2 жыл бұрын

@@igkslife they're just boomers or very delusional

@mohdfaismohdfais5477

2 жыл бұрын

Me who is gundam fans: colony drop, genocide in valentine war, terrorism in anno domini timeline, and loss of live in tekkadan. Are they joke to you?

@ototurmanidze5578

2 жыл бұрын

@@igkslife west majority mentality of anime watching sucks unless there are fans of it

@Antasma1

2 жыл бұрын

You have a fandom that’s even debating if war crimes are ok

Animations should be for everyone, not just kids, adults, or teens. It should be for all of them.

@PatrickMenesesYTOfficial4945

2 жыл бұрын

The cycle ends here.

@ronaldpagar6513

2 жыл бұрын

But now they're completely woke

@AlonzoMarquisGraychipmonk

Жыл бұрын

That’s no excuse. I doubt being woke is the reason no one gives a shit about animation being for all ages even if they are not woke.

I love how it went from mature topics to graphic violence to *the entire anime industry*

@colinfahrenkamp8572

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, anime is mostly aimed at teenagers and young adults

“Animation is for kids" -Oscars "You're dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway." -Walt Disney

@ClaudetteVioletta

2 жыл бұрын

the guy that was denied in the Oscars for Snow White being animated...

@connerthewubbzler1062

2 жыл бұрын

The funny thing is that Disney nowadays focuses almost exclusively for kids.

@Rando_mIndividual

2 жыл бұрын

Bad guy, great quote

@josefdrapak1889

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rando_mIndividual why a bad guy? What did he do?

@thorwilhelms9635

2 жыл бұрын

@@connerthewubbzler1062 Oh, sure... not like they make Star Wars, Indiana Jones, The Simpsons, Family Guy, Pirates of the Caribbean or anything like that...

I appreciate how you mostly used actually mature cartoons for your point instead of just adult animated comedies.

@payt00n

2 жыл бұрын

The "adult" animated comedies is just filled with edgy humor that is targeted to Teens rather than adults

@wildfire9280

2 жыл бұрын

@@payt00n *teens both below and over 18

@cadjebushey6524

2 жыл бұрын

@@payt00n To qoute the Nostalgia critic in his TMNT out of the shadows review after Bepop and Rocksteady cut fart jokes, "how is the cartoon for kids coming across as more adult?"

@atanaZion

2 жыл бұрын

There were Kimetsu,tho

@kauanjos3199

2 жыл бұрын

@@atanaZion since when kimetsu is a adult animated comedy series?

You can even count kids making animations as not-necessarily kid friendly.

@giygaswashere2808

2 жыл бұрын

looking at you a=edgy bloody animation memes made by 12 year olds

@yoboikamil525

2 жыл бұрын

@@giygaswashere2808 fyi I'm 15 and also how am I edgy not even talking about myself here when me and my friends were in elementary, we'd do Pivot animations to learn how to animate. everyone refused to do anything but animate violent shit, even the girls (believe it or not)

@bmetghost6816

2 жыл бұрын

@@yoboikamil525 Don't think he was talking about you

@yoboikamil525

2 жыл бұрын

@@bmetghost6816 how so?

@Pollicina_db

2 жыл бұрын

@@yoboikamil525 Read it again honey, they were talking about edgy animations in general, not particularly you. Honestly I also got confused the first time I read it, but you just gotta read more carefully

The argument doesn't even make sense, either. "Adults aren't allowed to enjoy cartoons because it wasn't made for them." So we're just gonna casually forget that adults are the ones who MAKE these cartoons and do so because they love the medium and want to share their creations with everyone? Okay then... >.>

Fritz the Cat was one of the earliest X rated animated films. That came out in 1972. We've had adult animation since the 70s, and they still pass the medium as just for kids. The Oscars are a complete joke. Edit: There, I fixed it. Now stop correcting me. lol

@blackhawk4ful

2 жыл бұрын

The Cameraman's Revenge is a short film, fully released on cinemas, about a beetle who thinks his wife (also a beetle) is cheating on him, the entire plot is him gathering evidence of the affair, including recording of her lying in bed with a grass hopper. It was all made in stop motion and released *IN 1911*. I GUESS KIDS BACK THEN LOVED STORIES OF INFIDELITY AND BROKEN HOMES! AM I RIGHT FOLKS?! BRING THE KIDDIES!!! Animation never was JUST FOR KIDS, is another medium of cinema, another style if you wish. Fuck the academy.

@laurenpawlenko8433

2 жыл бұрын

@Mister Metokur What's the difference between X and R? Sorry I don't live in the US so the system is different here.

@Blue-fg8vt

2 жыл бұрын

@Mister Metokur PERFECT FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY

@laurenpawlenko8433

2 жыл бұрын

@Mister Metokur thanks for explaining

@tunnelsnakesrule7541

2 жыл бұрын

@@laurenpawlenko8433 X is basically a step up from NC 17 which is a step up from R. R means you have can have a good amount of gore nudity/sex and drug use, Mortal Kombat 2021 and Halloween (2018) are both R rated for their gore, and the original Halloween is because of the sex and nude scenes and maybe profanity but that’s far from the point. NC 17 is basically an excessive amount of all that. X is that but higher, closer to porn than anything. After that there’s just Unrated which basically means it’s in between R and NC 17 if I remember correctly not always though so it probably just means it wasn’t given an age rating at release, Dawn of the Dead and Day of the Dead are both unrated and have light amounts of gore with people being ripped apart mainly. Some other rules make what would normally be a PG 13 movie R, mainly just two or more F Bombs.

I'm sorry, but Prince of Egypt deserves an Oscar. And it'd not just for kids, adults can watch it greatly. It's one of my favorites

@yanstein8464

2 жыл бұрын

agree, it is a masterpiece, easily the best in the dreamworks catalogue and a great contestant for the greatest animated film of all time

@existentialcrisis8321

2 жыл бұрын

That movie is genuinely amazing. You don't have to be religious or a kid to enjoy it.

@tobyswiss7909

2 жыл бұрын

The reason it didn't get Best Animated Feature was because the category didn't exist until the 2002 ceremony. Before that happened, it was rare that animated films got recognition at the Oscars, especially those made by someone other than Disney. So yeah, PoE was great, but it definitely had a lot going against it.

@InvaderBB

2 жыл бұрын

May I also bring up the emperor’s new groove

@felipetelmo6648

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. That movie should be far more popular

And then a year later del Toro went onto the podium and gave everyone a very deserved clap-back

@Yuh_zhimmy

Жыл бұрын

Same thing with the rock

For the next years, i will just keep watching The Annie Awards instead of the Oscars, because at least they treat animation with respect.

I’d argue that even the stuff ‘for kids’ should become normalized as something that people of all ages enjoy. If it’s a good quality film/show with meaningful characters and messages, why does being animated (and maybe having no murder or swears) suddenly make it childish

@herpderp3916

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of older people without kids seem to like Bluey, which is aimed at preschoolers but has really good writing and adults who aren't just "mom" or "dad" but instead characters in their own right.

@father9167

2 жыл бұрын

Lemme name a few movies that a entire FAMILY can watch: mega mind,meet the Robinsons,the Shrek franchise (except for three),wall E, ratatouille and a one that's really good for the family is "Mitchell's vs the machines" like there's so many animated movies that have good writing and good life lessons it's not like all animation of for kids like hory shit

@littlemisseevee2309

2 жыл бұрын

@@father9167 ohhhhh nooooo

@radishjuice8662

2 жыл бұрын

because it is childish. Nothing really wrong with that, it's just factual. (also branding something as "for kids" means parents should be able to trust it as age-appropriate media for their kids)

@RandomPerson-ob1hk

2 жыл бұрын

Kids shows tend to suck and the ones that don't and actually teach them stuff and build relationships with characters are good

I remember that time I watched re zero and there was a scene where Rem literally got twisted apart, her neck literally turning 180 degrees as she coughed up blood and slowly died, as well as Subaru dying in multiple brutal ways including getting poisoned to death, disembowelled multiple times, falling on spikes, getting eaten alive by rabbits, getting his throat slit etc. Animation is for kids amirite oscars??

@hydegomez47

2 жыл бұрын

sounds cool

@naughtmeinam4603

2 жыл бұрын

@Cheeky (Szèmtelen Mano) Do you live under a rock?

@moyaienjoyer3037

2 жыл бұрын

I've never watched re zero but how does one character die multiple times?

@tobyspeight193

2 жыл бұрын

@@moyaienjoyer3037 He has an ability known as ‘Return by Death’ which basically makes him return to a specific point in time (Mainly at the start of a new arc) every time he dies, and he’s unable to tell anyone of this ability either.

@gatoloco3949

2 жыл бұрын

@@tobyspeight193 sounds like Kenny from South Park. That one episode where they're dress as super heroes and Kenny just wakes up in his bed after he dies.

I'm actually impressed. It takes an elaborate effort to be that much out of fashion. And the Oscars consistently never fail to disappoint in that regard.

Movies/shows that come to mind when people say animation is for kids: Sausage Party, Harley Quinn (the show), South Park, Invincible, Deadpool (the show, cancelled (😭)), Paradise PD, Big Mouth and basically 95% of anime.

Even with animated shows that kids CAN watch, that doesn’t necessarily mean they’re the only, or even the primary, target demographic. For example, people often describe SpongeBob as a “kids show,” and I imagine that’s the target demographic Nickelodeon executives were going for. However, I think the writers, at least for the first three seasons, were aiming to make a show for all ages-a demographic people often mistake as “for kids.” Meanwhile, people with this mindset won’t watch SpongeBob and miss out on one of the most genuinely funny comedies of all time just because it’s drawn instead of live-acted.

@monchete9934

2 жыл бұрын

The thing about SpongeBob is that no matter if you are a kid or an adult you can enjoy the show just as much, if not more. Heck, you might even enjoy it MORE as an adult

@brainlessappendix4369

2 жыл бұрын

It's more fitting to use Spongebob for the example considering it is used as a meme for this video.

@myang12003

2 жыл бұрын

That's why we have adult jokes!

@bespectacledheroine7292

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I don't think this argument is perfect because equating adult things with violence or heavy themes is ironically pretty juvenile. I'd prefer it if that's what they escalated to but one of the first examples here could've been Mitchells vs the Machines because that movie kills.

@superboomn

2 жыл бұрын

The episode this meme is from half the jokes would fly over your head if you weren't grown

Oscars: Animation's for Kids. Charlie Kaufman: Gives us a stop motion doll sex scene and one of the most human stories about feeling disconnected, unsatisfied and isolated from the people in the world around you, feeling they're all the same person with Anomalisa.

@luckywii8731

2 жыл бұрын

*_...idk how to respond to this without showing general concern to the creator..._* Unless its for content. content is content, cant argue with that

@fixarwcensored3671

2 жыл бұрын

what show/movie is that?

@minerdxxd733

2 жыл бұрын

a stop motion doll sex scene? now I'm curious

@creepeep6098

2 жыл бұрын

Philip Tipptet also this year has finished a stopmotion movie after 33 years about a Guy that descend to the hell seeing, every kind of horror, including, everything that if you show to a kid, he probably die of heart atack.

@mouselmao

2 жыл бұрын

@@fixarwcensored3671 @minerdx xd The movie Anomalisa, there's a scene where the main character buys a sex doll. He doesn't actually *y'know* with the doll, but it is certainly a scene. I highly recommend the movie if you're up for feeling utter desolation and hopelessness. It's really good but can ruin your day, so I'd recommend watching it in the evening

Movies like A Silent Voice, Prince of Egypt, and others DESERVES an Oscar, it's nuts how so many quality shows and movies get put to the side because "it's not real people and animated" when people LOVED things like avengers endgame which is basically an animated movie (not saying endgame is bad, but come on)

@mylles1112

2 жыл бұрын

Prince of Egypt is a phenomenal movie, but nowadays Oscar sucks dick so much that i don't even want to see nothing that i like on this hell hole of event.

@havenspringer

Жыл бұрын

It kinda is, really. And it's a live action movie with overuse of CGI VFX like other MCU films.

@esmeraldadelatorre8676

Жыл бұрын

Hunchback, Atlantis, and Treasure Planet deserve an Oscar nomination

@brytilaar

6 ай бұрын

The Prince of Egypt came out before the Best Animated Feature Oscar Nominee. And I wish that TMNT from 2007 deserved an Oscar.

Animation is a medium, not a genre. You can make all sorts of things with animation. Animation is and can be for everyone. No need to be ashamed for loving animation. Animation is ART! Animation is hard and takes time. Give credit for the animators. Animation and all of the animators need more love and respect ❤👍

Fun Fact: When Ralph Bakshi was producing and advertising Fritz the Cat in Hollywood, there were people that were sending out warnings not to see this X-rated film (that is the actual rating, it's now known as NC-17) as it did not fit their criteria for what animation should be. To everyone's suprise, the film was a massive success. This was the early days of adult animation and Hollywood's attitude as either not changed or worsened.

Imagine if the academy actually watched AoT, they'd probably be crying about it being too adult

@silverraven250

2 жыл бұрын

Not really adult just violent IMHO

@PaintSplashProductions

2 жыл бұрын

@@silverraven250 To the Oscars, that's adult

@silverraven250

2 жыл бұрын

@@PaintSplashProductions eh fair enough

@mk3a

2 жыл бұрын

*Emmy Awards (But that is still part of the Academy so it counts)

@naughtmeinam4603

2 жыл бұрын

@@silverraven250 I'd kinda agree with you as far as season one but the mature themes really take off after that. AoT is a lot more than violence and reducing one's perception of it to that kinda just proves the narrative right regarding a very particular accusation it made to its audience toward the end of season 3. It's a mass-appeal show that's better at targeting younger audiences than traditionally "adult" media in the west, largely because of inherent elements of its medium.

"Animation is for kids!" has the same energy as "It has a lot of violence in it, so it's definitely for adults!"

One day, my parents and I were trying to decide on a movie to watch as a family. I suggested Into the Spider-verse. I had already seen it, but it was really good and thought my dad would like it. He replied “No, I don’t wanna watch a cartoon!”

@hedgehog07productions91

2 жыл бұрын

Parents just got no respect for our taste, like after all we did for them, Respecting them, cleaning for them, putting them first and this is what we get in return when we try to introduce them to animated movies or shows that have good storytelling, eye catching/gorgeous visuals and relatable characters. But they say “Animation is for kids” so I suggest we lecture them just like they lecture us when we do something bad, they did something bad so we lecture them. Who’s with me!

@elmemearana

2 жыл бұрын

@@hedgehog07productions91 in true, my dad is not one of these types. He is not much from anime too, but he enjoys all the other animation types. I think that's enough, I guess.

@samalass466

2 жыл бұрын

I had my mom watch Grave of The Fireflies to show how wrong this mindset is. She ended up sad and never wanting to see it again ofc. Then she dismissed an animated film at a festival for being animated.

The real issue is that this stigma regarding animation leads to parents letting their kids watch stuff they very much aren't ready for, and then getting shocked when their parenting substitute turns out to be not quite family friendly.

@stevencoffin328

2 жыл бұрын

Example: Me as a kid watching Paprika at age 9 because I thought it was a Studio Ghibli/ Miyazaki movie. Great movie but I wish I had first watched it when I was a bit older.

@slippy9251

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevencoffin328 What happens in this Movie friend?

@J____L

2 жыл бұрын

Which also encourages the development of more shitty "adult" animated comedy shows because they arent meant to be taken seriously while an American animated show or film that's for adults that's actually sincere and recognizably made by artists who give a shit rarely get greenlit

@PatrickMenesesYTOfficial4945

2 жыл бұрын

Ironic, they think they are doing good but end up contradicting themselves.

@veiserexab1428

2 жыл бұрын

I never even get shocked even watching some movies like Cannibal holocaust when I was a kid

that's why you can't take these Oscars seriously

@mirzapramudya1580

2 жыл бұрын

I forgot what they nominated for Oscar of 2016, but they didn't even mention Your Name, when I realized that, I stopped caring about Oscars all together

@NeddyMcDodd4846

2 жыл бұрын

@@mirzapramudya1580 Zootopia

@glenwarne7518

2 жыл бұрын

@@mirzapramudya1580 your name isn't that great

@mirzapramudya1580

2 жыл бұрын

@@glenwarne7518 eh, that's on you

Oscars: Animation is for kids Helluva Boss: did I ask?

A silent voice is my favorite example of animation not being just for kids

@AutistRapper

2 жыл бұрын

True

They really missed out that a lot of animations tackle serious problems in our society from bullying, mental illnesses, and death. Some aren't directly portrayed by the characters and the show while other animations do. And so yeah it's really "educational" to have children watch these but the target audience doesn't just stop at children. The only animation a good majority of babies, toddlers, and kids watch is that mind numbing cocomelon stuff.

@ninjatortise8958

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, in terms of animated TV shows there are legitimately a lot of them that are legitimately meant for adults. However in the Oscars they give Awards based on movies, and there are very few if any adult animated movies.

@kaelell4697

2 жыл бұрын

Cocomelon makes me wanna commit speaking my mind in north korea

@blipster0074

2 жыл бұрын

Out of the loop, whats cocomelon

@AlfurAldric2211

2 жыл бұрын

@@blipster0074 I've heard people mention it a lot but i never checked it nor i feel like i should. So, here's a heads up: it's THAT kind of kid's show.

@kaelell4697

2 жыл бұрын

@@blipster0074 look it up on youtube

Why do people like to hate on animation so much? It’s expressing an art form in its own unique way that live action can’t do.

@veiserexab1428

2 жыл бұрын

They don't hate it, they simply find it childish even if it's edgy

@boop004

2 жыл бұрын

@@veiserexab1428 Corporations and corporate-minded.

@veiserexab1428

2 жыл бұрын

@@boop004 aren't we all do, people have preferences

@CyberLance26

2 жыл бұрын

@@veiserexab1428 Most of those people have never even tried getting into animated shows and movies.

*Laughs in 95% of all anime*

@AutistRapper

2 жыл бұрын

Based

As Warner Brothers cartoon writer Michael Maltese said, "We wrote cartoons for grownups, that was the secret."

This mind set is what lead to people taking their kids to Sausage Party

@luckywii8731

2 жыл бұрын

*_exactly, One of thebiggest mistake a parent would ever make... Early child PTSD_* I ain't no child, but I gotta say... That right there can make the elderly have a heart attack and die from seeing such... *_unless they like it_*

@jeremyusreevu237

2 жыл бұрын

The fact that the film's trailer was shown before Finding Dory certainly didn't help.

@anomaly395

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I would’ve love to see that in person. Just watching all of these parents entering the theater with their kids while I’m sitting there knowing full well it’s rated R and waiting for the reactions when the movie starts lmao.

@veiserexab1428

2 жыл бұрын

@@anomaly395 some kids and parents simply wouldn't care about it

@veiserexab1428

2 жыл бұрын

@@luckywii8731 PTSD?

What’s worse is that there’s even more adult animated films like Sony’s Sausage Party (2016) and the Ralph Bakshi films like Fritz the Cat (1969)

@temin2776

2 жыл бұрын

And many shorts. Many short films.

@Iiiiii884

2 жыл бұрын

Many many shorts

@MrBlueSkyof1607

2 жыл бұрын

I'm beginning to think they never watched or even heard of something from Mr. Bakshi!

@Iiiiii884

2 жыл бұрын

#ChangeTheOscarsForAnimation or #AnimationIsCinema

@tunnelsnakesrule7541

2 жыл бұрын

@@Iiiiii884 They ignore a bunch of movies, especially horror movies. Only one horror movie has ever won Best Picture, only 10 have ever been nominated for an oscarl

Fun fact: Animaniacs was *very* popular with adults

The Oscars then: "We're Awesome!" The Oscars now: "We're Assholes!"

the whole stigma against animation is silly and honestly I think it's actually childish to think that just because a certain medium isn't live action, that it's somehow for kids. Also the fact they tend to not realize that live action movies filled with cgi are basically half animated at best. Honestly, trying super hard to seem adult in general is super childish and it seems a lot of people never grew out of that phase. Actually there's just a lot of stupid thoughts about media like how extreme gore is seen as less mentally scarring to children than seeing a singular bare tit or the idea that gore, sex and drugs are what make something adult more than stuff like nuanced sides, existential themes and so on.

This needs to change not just for the Oscar’s but for society. They act like watching cartoons will make us stupid. Of course, there are *SOME* cartoons aimed at kids but not all of them are *JUST* for kids. I’m pretty sure Disneys The Owl House is watched by more people who are *OUTSIDE* the age demographic and No one seems to care about that

@platinumdiamond1445

2 жыл бұрын

I'm more of an Amphibia person but Owl House is still cool

@stephenfong1144

2 жыл бұрын

@@platinumdiamond1445 It definitely applies to the both of them (cough cough Marcy)

@ZebraLuv

2 жыл бұрын

Adults created a huge lie. We say no violence or sexual content to spare the children, but really it's because we're burnt out on it. We have "Adulting Fatigue" and all that 18+ stuff really loses appeal. I'll take Owl House and Animal Crossing over gore any day.

@TheDearestHunter

2 жыл бұрын

I wholeheartedly agree with this statement i honestly wish animation is given more credit.

@bengilhooly3616

2 жыл бұрын

@@platinumdiamond1445 I mean I’d say it’s the same with Amphibia. People outside the age demographic are probably watching that too

Oscars: AnImAtiON Is JusT for KiDs Almost every animation enthusiast: *le gasp Animators: Hold my pen

Wait until they hear about Neon Genesis Evangelion, JoJo’s Bizarre adventure, The Clone Wars and basically any hentai.

@Pollicina_db

2 жыл бұрын

There’s a fare share amount of western cartoon porn too, every animation nerd knows that. It’s obvious that people judging and deciding on who wins the animation oscar don’t care about the medium

@therealspeedwagon1451

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pollicina_db it’s best to ignore it. They don’t give a shit about actually animation. It’s shit like the Boss Baby and surface animation literally everyone who’s heard of electricity has seen.

Spawn the animated serious, cowboy beebop, end of evangelion and so much more, just as a few more examples from the 90s

@kringerman396

2 жыл бұрын

Perfect Blue is another great example.

@halfhawk718

2 жыл бұрын

Batman The Animated Series too.

@vansfreshhunta9050

2 жыл бұрын

Eurobeat aside Initial D slapped too

@flyingfish64

2 жыл бұрын

Spawn was so damn good

@ninjatortise8958

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, in terms of animated TV shows there are legitimately a lot of them that are legitimately meant for adults. However in the Oscars they give Awards based on movies, and there are very few if any adult animated movies.

Let this one sink into your brain. Live action is a form of animation. Especially when CGI comes into play. So they really got no excuse at this point to give Cartoons and Anime an Oscar. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk. 🧸

@Pollicina_db

2 жыл бұрын

Love the teddy at the end, brilliant

Oscars: "Animation is just for kids" Porky Pig in the 1930s: You thought I was gonna say s-son of a b**ch, didn't you?

Wait, isn't the girl in center currently playing as Ariel in the upcoming Little Mermaid movie? Looks to me like she doesn't care about a role for a children's movie but rather a role to fulfill a stupid quota.

With jokes asides, it’s screaming that animation also exists for adults, which is not an entirely accurately correct notion. The best thing to say should be spoken in two ways: “Animation is a medium, not a genre.” “Animation is for EVERYONE.”

you did a great job on this.

@ninjatortise8958

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, in terms of animated TV shows there are legitimately a lot of them that are legitimately meant for adults. However in the Oscars they give Awards based on movies, and there are very few if any adult animated movies.

"Animation is for kids" Demon slayer: litterally having people die horrifically and have a funny scene litterally a second later

@muzoriichi

4 ай бұрын

Including AOT I'd dare not show that ro my 9 year old brother that anime is gruesome but amazing

Does anyone remember that cartoons back in the day were mainly targeted towards adults in the first place??? Why else do you think the old Betty Boop cartoons AND the 30s Mickey Mouse shorts had more mature and dark themes? 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️

As a kid, I loved watching Akira. Doesn’t mean I should’ve been or that it was made with me in mind. I think it’s just kind of sad that an industry that prides itself on creativity and imagination is just so shortsighted, narrow minded and dismissive about an entire medium in which can be used to tell stories.

@jytvreal

2 жыл бұрын

Akira is almost a body horror

@DeathnoteBB

2 жыл бұрын

Tbf the Oscars prides itself on money and not much else

Gotta love how they say that while the animators themselves are going through living hell being overworked and such.

@Wclipped

2 жыл бұрын

And underpaid/underappreciated

People forget that Kung Fu Panda is actually a love letter to Hong Kong Kung Fu films. With references from Jackie Chan movies, Bruce Lee movies, and even Stephen Chow movies, too.

I love that you included Persepolis in this. it's an incredible movie.

You forgor Isle of Dogs

Honestly even the shows that aren’t completely graphic can still have really heavy themes and storylines. For example shows like Amphibia or the Owl House deal with a lot of themes of loss, betrayal, and trauma, and even shows like MLP have episodes on war and revenge. So the Oscars really had no idea what they were even talking about EDIT: ok woah this blew up lol, hate to be that person but thanks for the likes! Glad to see I’m not the only one who loves dark kids cartoons lmao

@EdwardNewgate58

2 жыл бұрын

Three episodes into ATLA be like: "Hey kids, do you know what genocide is?!"

@wildfire9280

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdwardNewgate58 WAR CRIMES 👏 WAR CRIMES 👏 WAR CRIMES 👏 WAR CRIMES 👏 WAR CRIMES 👏 WAR CRIMES 👏

@herpderp3916

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdwardNewgate58 ATLA really went "Hey kids, wanna see MULTIPLE dead bodies" as soon as Aang got back to the southern air temple.

@ohdang1083

2 жыл бұрын

Ngl when I was little and I saw that one episode in MLP where the main characters were forced into a mind numbing torture room to get them to break and abandon their special mark or whatever to become part of the village that had their magic taken from them so everyone would be equal and nobody would feel superior or worse than someone else, and then found out the leader of the town still had magic and was lying to everyone..... idk where I was going with that but damn dude

@stellathefoxgirl3648

2 жыл бұрын

@@ohdang1083 I- holy shit- what episode is that?

Oscars : "Animation is for kids".... So kids love to watch 'Cyberpunk : Edgerunners' lol

This reminds me of when I was in a library and I saw someone had put Attack on Titan manga in the kids’ section. They probably saw it had “pictures” and just put it there next to Dr Seuss without actually looking at what it was about 😂

@anatoldenevers237

Жыл бұрын

AOT in a kids section? I hope someone corrected that before some kid gets traumatized.

@johnbarrett3615

Жыл бұрын

Weirdos I Say Weridos

To think that adult animation is not only common in Japan but even more popular than live action. Shows how behind the times we are.

@pokepwned

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Animation can do so much more than live-action can, people just need to outgrow their childish attitude that they’re “too old” to watch it.

@tunnelsnakesrule7541

2 жыл бұрын

There’s gotta be a duality of course, live action can still be impressive when practical effects are done right and animation can be impressive when the animation is stellar.

@Pihsrosnec

2 жыл бұрын

@@tunnelsnakesrule7541 The main thing is that when it comes to action, animation is faster and cheaper. Hell, it can be cheaper than live action across the board if you cut enough corners(and a notable amount do). Fact is, CGI is just animating something with enough detail to pass it off as reality, animations don't have to pass as real so they're at an inherent advantage.

@catbatrat1760

2 жыл бұрын

@@pokepwned I like how you called the whole "too old to watch it" mentality "childish" because as ironic as it is, it's true. Being a snob like that _is_ pretty darn childish.

@Evan8787

2 жыл бұрын

Evidence to back that up?

You forgot Avatar: The Last Airbender as well. That’s watched by everyone just like Attack on Titan and Demon Slayer. Man, animation is amazing. I don’t know who’s smokin what if you think it’s only for kids. Animating is hard and if I was animating, I’d want everyone to see the good job I did.

@ghazie5555

2 жыл бұрын

I love Avatar: The Last Airbender. People legit DIED, colonized, and living with fear in 100 years of war. We could see many characters having major complex about it (Aang felt guilty for ran away, Katara didn't move on with her mother's death, Zuko become obsessed with honor and so on.) Even side characters show how much the war effect them despite only has a little screen time. (The earth kingdom girl with burn scars, Jack trying to flood the village due to revenge, Zuko's mum that left her children which makes both Zuko and Azula has trauma). Even my mother love this series back then. She always watch it with me. ATLA is a good series which could be enjoyable from all walks of life.

@cameronjosephvideos5942

2 жыл бұрын

I think he was focusing on shows that you wouldn't let your kids watch as it illustrates the point more clearly than shows that are kid appropriate but mature enough for everyone.

@Kaltsit-

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameronjosephvideos5942 good point. But still, GENOCIDE. And abuse. And mental instability.

@veiserexab1428

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kaltsit- just anime these days are more on edginess

@kimifw58

2 жыл бұрын

That was made for kids, though. This is about adult animation.

Recordemos lo que dijo guillerno: la animacion no es para niños ni es un genero ,es una foma de transmitir historias y formas de contarlas

"Animations are only for kids" Me who grow up with Happy Tree Friends: "ok boomer"

@yourmum69_420

2 жыл бұрын

hm but you say you grew up with it... so you were a kid, right? That's kinda proving them right tbh. Honestly I can't imagine many boomers enjoying happy tree friends really

@dafi8083

2 жыл бұрын

I'm 15 years old now but i still like the show btw

@yourmum69_420

2 жыл бұрын

@@dafi8083 see so you're still a kid now. But anyway yeah, I agree that happy tree friends isn't exactly "for kids" or "kid friendly" That being said, I haven't bothered to watch it again since I was your age (12 years ago)

The fact that this stigma still exists after Disneys 90’s renaissance and Dream Works opening score, the Prince of Egypt… is baffling. I mean come on, what is better a generic action movie with the R rating or The Hunchback of Notredam? Also most anime/manga is made for kids, but can be enjoyed by adults because the writers are making it because they like making art (it pays well but the pay isn’t worth it for the stessful work you do tbh).

@seronymus

2 жыл бұрын

I thought your avatar was muv luv at first lul

The Simpsons, the longest running show in America and probably Worldwide is animated and watched by millions of adults

@gerardogarcia8132

2 жыл бұрын

Sazae-san is an anime far longer than the Simpsons btw

@KeybladeMaster64

2 жыл бұрын

@@gerardogarcia8132 he said in America

@staringcorgi6475

Жыл бұрын

That show had controversy because kids liked it

Oscars: "Animations are for kids" Brad Bird: "I'm about to do what is called a pro gamer move"

As much as I love Beastars, for how incredible it is, there’s no way that show’s for kids.

@dummy3467

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I watched that too and like, holy shit when Legoshi was about to do it with the bunny girl (forgor her name) in the love hotel, I was quickly looking around and turning the volume down to make sure nobody were hear. I think this anime along with other things is the reason why I’m a furry.

@maxpogfrog

2 жыл бұрын

@@dummy3467 Haru, also yeah that scene is suprisingly tame considering... some of the other scenes in the show. won't spoil it for those who haven't seen it tho, because beastars is an incredible show.

This is a clear example of "If you don't know anything, then keep your mouth shut"

@Danganraptor

2 жыл бұрын

"Best to keep silent and thought a fool, lest you open your mouth to prove it." Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens, paraphrased

Oscar’s: Animation is for kids, Me: looks at 90% of anime Also me:doubt

@AutistRapper

2 жыл бұрын

DID YOU JUST PUT THE WORD ANIME IN YOUR MEME COMMENT??? As a Breaking Bad this is absolutely unacceptable!!! I AM THE ONE WHO KNOCKS!!! YOU NOW WHAT IM GONNA DO!!! That's right im gonna replace your MEMES WITH THE WALTER WHITE FACE!!! THAT IS RIGHT FEAR ME!!! ARE YOU SCARED??? HAHAHAHAHAGA!!!! SAY MY NAME

@johnbarrett3615

Жыл бұрын

@@AutistRapper Hahahaha You Have A Anime Pfp

@AutistRapper

Жыл бұрын

@@johnbarrett3615 uh.... meow?

@johnbarrett3615

Жыл бұрын

@@AutistRapper It's Funny Because You Think Anime Is Bad Yet You Have A Anime Pfp

@AutistRapper

Жыл бұрын

@@johnbarrett3615 AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

These women who said it should have been ashamed of themselves for saying that.

Animation is a medium that can be enjoyed by people of all ages. There is no age limit for animation as a medium, and we shouldn't pretend that there is.

Eleven films have been nominated that weren’t G or PG: The Triplets of Belleville (PG-13), Persepolis (PG-13), Chico & Rita (unrated), The Wind Rises (PG-13), Anomalisa (R), My Life as a Zucchini (PG-13), The Breadwinner (PG-13), Loving Vincent (PG-13), Isle of Dogs (PG-13), I Lost My Body (unrated), and Flee (PG-13). About 12% of all the nominated films are adult. Most of the remaining 88% appeal to both kids AND adults. Treat the medium with some respect.

@pokepwned

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for pointing out that last point. Some people act like just because a movie is safe for their children to watch means that they’re “too old” for it, which is ridiculous.

@veryinactiveukmapping

2 жыл бұрын

i lost my body is rated 12 in the uk, which is basically pg-13

@Quickdrawingartist

2 жыл бұрын

Love Triplets of Belleville.

@GemCB7

2 жыл бұрын

The academy: NEVER

@Little1Cave

2 жыл бұрын

@@Quickdrawingartist I think back when I first found out about the Oscars back in 2010, that was what introduced me to The Triplets of Belleville, which in turn introduced me to the awesomeness of Sylvain Chomet. ❤️

You don't even need to point out the more mature movies/shows specifically for it, there's still a LOT of kids movies or shows that adults can enjoy pretty well. Mature ones are the most obvious ones though.

@mirzapramudya1580

2 жыл бұрын

A wise man once said "a kids show that only kids can enjoy aren't good kids show"

*"So many kids watch these movies over and over over..."* Because they are just THAT GOOD! AND BY THE WAY, they're not just for kids! Cartoons are for big boys too!

Something I didn’t realize until my 20s: Just because it’s live action and PG-13/R-rated, doesn’t automatically make it a “grown-up” movie. *Cough* transformers, grownups, Sandler movies, twilight, 16 again, avatar, the Hangover, Madea movies, the fast and the furious, Shyamalan movies, Harry Potter, Jersey shore, reality shows, vampire diaries, the Big Bang theory, riverdale, Lost, the mummy, Michael Bay movies, certain action movies, certain horror movies, Romantic Comedies, etc. *cough*

@TAGanimation

2 жыл бұрын

I know I've been there, before!

@definitelynotapervert5602

Жыл бұрын

A lot of these are pretty poor examples, dude.

I mean disney back then used to make films for all ages like kids and adults

@marcogentile3392

2 жыл бұрын

And it's pretty much the same today

@marcogentile3392

2 жыл бұрын

@@SelfHatingWeeb hhh no? They still make all Age movies, it's not like they make baby movies now

Meanwhile, Digimon Tamers, a “kids’ anime” having a scene (THAT MADE IT TO THE ENGLISH DUB UNCUT) where a 12 year old (10 in the Japanese version) talks about wanting to commit self oof before attempting to strangle herself with a hand puppet: Also meanwhile, Eda and Raine in attempting a self oof bombing in The Owl House: Even animation targeted toward children can be dark. (I said self oof because I’m overly paranoid about YT deleting my comment if I said the actual word.)

@tunnelsnakesrule7541

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of Brad Bird’s pixar movies. Incredibles being the main example.

@damkylan3

2 жыл бұрын

YT is much more into shadow banning comments these days instead of deleting them, and you wouldn't know it without another account to check. Pretty disgusting, really. Wonder if this will make it through, lol.

@tunnelsnakesrule7541

2 жыл бұрын

@@damkylan3 It made it through.

Let’s not forget unicorn wars

"Do you see that? *It's Happy Tree Friends."* (I'm very concerned that this series was on TV, even if one time)

“G” is for everyone. Not kids only. Sometimes even films for kids have things adults could enjoy, or contain stuff honestly not entirely suited for children. The Breadwinner by Cartoon Saloon comes into mind (or anything they make, really). It tackles an existing issue, and even contains non-cartoon violence/blood. Animation is a medium, not a genre.

@theflickchick9850

2 жыл бұрын

G may be for everyone but it doesn't even mean "for kids" either which people forget! "2001: A Space Odyssey" is rated G and I probably would've been bored outta my MIND with it as a kid.

Emile Reynaud, 1888: creates through the praxinoscope a theater that projects full motion coloured pictures of stories accompanied with music (he created the modern cinema almost ten years before the Lumiere brothers created the cinemascope) Relegated as a proto animator. Vladsilav Starevich, 1911: releases the first short made fully in stop motion, he used bugs (and i mean HE WIRED REAL LIFE BEETLES AND GRASS HOPPERS) to tell a story of infidelity and broken dreams (the father of stop motion) Lotte Reiniger, 1926: after a carreer dedicated to shadow puppets (because who would it thought to allow a woman to direct "real films") she releases The Adventures of Prince Achmed, the first fully animated, coloured, hour long film in history. Is literally an adaptation of A thousand and One Nights including all the adult themes. Walt Disney, 1928: releases Steam Boat Willie, the first fully voiced short. Later in 1937 will Release Snow White, the first full colour voiced full lenght film in the medium (that is also fully drawn, you can animate with more than just a pencil). Hugh Harman, 1939: releases Peace on Earth, a tale of how humanity extinguished itself after a great war (including a shot of how the last two remaining humans in the face of the earth killed each other), he went down in history as the guy who made those animated instructions shorts for the US Army. Animation was never intended as a medium exclusively for kids, all this examples were made for all ages and had full releases around the world. Kids may be the most profeting market for the medium but that doesn't make it inferior to the rest of the cinematic art, especially when it was directly responsible for its creation or help broke its limits. ANIMATION. IS. CINEMA.

@yeeoof1995

2 жыл бұрын

in fact, if you think about it, isn't all cinema just sorts of branches of animation?

@jamie1602

2 жыл бұрын

Snow White is also considered a horror movie. an animated horror movie. It's murder. Murder happens. Seriously. Stop with the "wholesome" thing. Christian right is infecting everyone...

@nutterinherbutter5080

2 жыл бұрын

Animation is also a medium, not (just) a genre

I havent watched the first 3 shows u showed so tysm fr finally giving me some new adult animated content. I thought I'd almost finished it all

I do think it's clear that the people who say "aNiMaTiOn Is FoR kIdS" are certainly in the minority, but they are a very vocal minority.

Don't forget Sausage Party, that ending traumatized me for life.

@luckywii8731

2 жыл бұрын

*_to the parents who thought that was a kids movie, thank you SO MUCH for ending my innocence earlier than it should have_*

@hardondong3550

2 жыл бұрын

@@luckywii8731 I was 11 when I first discovered the hub

@Krispykreme15

2 жыл бұрын

I remember my parents turned it on for me and my siblings when it came out, only 3 minutes and my parents turned it off Thank god i dont remember much

Even if it’s for kids, some shows actually make it not to childish for adults so kids and adults could enjoy it, a perfect example is SpongeBob seasons 1-4 . I love that SpongeBob had hidden adult jokes like the “doubloons” and how you shouldn’t drop them

@quanashiab.9620

2 жыл бұрын

And 5, 1999-2009 were classic spongenbob days.

ironically the biggest ones (the 2 animes) are the ones my younger brother watches, and hes still in elementary school

They nominated Beauty and the Beast for Best Picture. Not Best Animated Picture, that category didn't exist at the time. It was Best Picture.

Even many animated movies intended for children are still very popular among adults and have adult themes. Like Encanto, or Up, and many other animated movies.

"Animation is only for kids" Ah yes, South Park is truly an appropriate and educational show for preschoolers, since it is animated.

@montyheisenberg36

2 жыл бұрын

Even more ironic since some kids snuck into the theaters screening bigger longer and uncut

@commandernemex3478

2 жыл бұрын

Technically no, but everything is for kids if you let them watch it. Sure, they might be traumatized a bit.

@furrieoussheadquarter1359

2 жыл бұрын

@@commandernemex3478 Say that again when you let your child watch hand-tai, then I'll take your comment to heart.

@FanOfLightning95

2 жыл бұрын

That's Kinda Like Saying The Same Thing To Sausage Party(Seth Rogen's R-Rated Animated Movie,Which Is Also Controversial & Dirty)

*Points at Your Name and A Silent Voice.* The kids will be scarred for life by the emotional damage.

The only show I recognise is smiling friends but you’re still right

Yeah, the Oscars are biased towards animated feature films, animated films animation where they call them "cartoons' by saying "cartoons (including animation, animated features and animated films in general) are for kids" and animated features are just dumb "cartoons" pandering towards kids.

The Brad Bird quote in the description really hammers it home and it’s a fact that isn’t hammered home enough. God, that man is a godsend.

"so many kids watch these movies over and over and over..." Girl in the middle: 👁️ 👄 👁️

thank you so much for including persepolis

honestly the anime mentioned could be watchable by kids to a certain extent.... now madoka magica on the other hand gave me trauma at age 8 vecause I thought it would be like sailor moon.... rip 50k versions of mami IG

@insertnamehere1398

2 жыл бұрын

I… I don’t actually remember if I cried because I wasn’t joking when I said I stumbled on it on Hulu when I was 8

@mirzapramudya1580

2 жыл бұрын

Here, I'll cheer you up Try watching Made in Abyss, it's about children who explore a wide world in the deep caverns, ots extremely wholesome and I recommend it

@kafei-creme

2 жыл бұрын

@@mirzapramudya1580 Oh god no 😂

people fail to grasp that "being for kids" should not be a demerit

The animators must’ve hate the Oscars

Oscars: Animation is a genre for *kids* Normies: Family guy? Rick and Morty? Invincible? Anime fans: Aot? JJBA? Blood C? Cells at Work? Berserk? Tokyo Ghoul? Cultured people: *henta-*

@veiserexab1428

2 жыл бұрын

Weebs be like when you say anime is cartoons

@veiserexab1428

2 жыл бұрын

Boondocks, aqua teen hunger force, and butthead and beavis are a good show