Listen with headphones so you can hear the different audio channels!!! BTC 2937 CVR: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nIlkqqmQY8uehtI.htmlsi=qscBiukgpVNpGqZ5 DHL 611 CVR: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qoekq9GRoceohLQ.htmlsi=lJK_3Mje99PrPkez

@moenajadmmh194

10 ай бұрын

I don't understand why they say bye-bye ?

@GeNoAviation

10 ай бұрын

Because the Aerollyod Airbus left the airspace@@moenajadmmh194

how the pilots in TU-154 gasped in recording scares me. They saw the controls. They felt the pressure on their bodies. They heard Peter. Yet they couldn't do anything. Not even say last words..

@99domini99

5 ай бұрын

Just the terror… The way this plane is built, the cockpit likely lost all electrical power after the collision. This aircraft has the cockpit voice recorder in the front and it has it’s own battery. It was likely just one big bang, then all the lights and instruments went dark as the cockpit got disconnected from the engines (and thus generators) and they experienced extreme g-forces as the nose section tumbled from the sky. I can’t imagine anything more scary. You know you’re utterly doomed and can’t do anything but wait for the final impact while suffering the worst rollercoaster ride imaginable. At that point, it’s seriously a long way down… The crew of the DHL jet still had most of their jet there, but without the vertical stabiliser it was uncontrollable. They suffered trying to fly the jet for a further four more minutes before it inevitably went down. Tragic :(

It was much more terrifying from the DHL’s view just after they collided.

1:01 "I TOLD YOU IT WAS ON THE LEFT" Gave me goosebumps

@GeNoAviation

Жыл бұрын

Me too when I heard it for the first time.

@bassemhatira6558

11 ай бұрын

😮

@mikethespike056

11 ай бұрын

don't hear it

@GeNoAviation

11 ай бұрын

@@mikethespike056 Listen with headphones, so can hear it.

@Lun1andKun2

10 ай бұрын

I hear it but with no headphones

1:23 those gasps and groans were terrifying. I can't imagine how that must've felt. They couldn't even make sense of what was happening and you can hear a loud noise from the air rushing past the fuselage

@jnprather

2 ай бұрын

I'm guessing they were running out of oxygen.

@arab_mems

28 күн бұрын

The pilots’ sounds were likely due to near-unconsciousness from their rapid free fall at 500 mph, making it improbable they felt pain on impact. RIP

@pablorubio8287

28 күн бұрын

Meanwhile the pilots of the DHL 611 were trapped in an out of control plane facing straight towards the ground all while spinning rapidly. For 2 minutes

@jnprather

27 күн бұрын

@@pablorubio8287 Jesus.

1:02 The two flights collided at 23:35:32 local time (21:35:32 UTC) at an altitude of 10,630 meters (34,890 feet). The vertical tail of Flight 611 passed through the lower left side of the fuselage of Flight 2937. The Tu-154 passenger plane immediately exploded and disintegrated into two pieces, killing all personnel.

ATC management never apologized for this horrible error of their staff

@Mr._Tony

Жыл бұрын

I saw a documentary about this accident. The flight controllers usually got a stressful job managing 10+ planes in the air, but in this case some of their equipment was out due to maintenance work, and the controller only had 3 flights to handle. Well he managed to have 2 out of 3 collide with each other, what a lousy performance 😕

@fmondeo

Жыл бұрын

@@Mr._Tony Well he was murdered a few years later...

@Conneck_Mhike

11 ай бұрын

Legally his company didn't allow him to , they didn't want to take Blame for it

@Mr._Tony

11 ай бұрын

@@Conneck_Mhike : That they never too responsibility for their mistake, made one of the victims, a man who had lost his wife and two children, kill the responsible flight controller - an apology from the company or the responsible flight controller would have been better

@straxwb

10 ай бұрын

Not true, they eventually admitted their fault and paid off the families of the victims.

The bye bye is chilling

@gerflexOFFICIAL

4 ай бұрын

hi there!

@supsnail

4 ай бұрын

@@gerflexOFFICIAL hi

@supsnail

4 ай бұрын

also by chilling I meant scary

@peepo-

3 ай бұрын

@@supsnail yeah it was to a different plane tho

@Delta93485_

3 ай бұрын

​@@supsnailsupsnail is that you!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!??

Those gasps and groans are chilling. Were they from the pilots in the DHL plane?

@GeNoAviation

6 ай бұрын

These gasps and groans were from the tupolev.

@brianfarrell3987

6 ай бұрын

@@GeNoAviation thanks. Utterly terrible. I assume they were pretty much in uncontrollable free fall at that stage.

Always follow TCAS RA. They are preventing ATC screwups.

i swear i can hear peter nielsen faintly say „BTC2937?“ at 23:35:56, maybe just me tho

@GeNoAviation

9 ай бұрын

This is not Nielsen, its the crew of the Tupolev.

@retr0viber

9 ай бұрын

@@GeNoAviation no listen, its very faint, its before the crew starts gasping, i swear i can hear it. if it actually is peter, its kinda chilling that the crew of the tupolev might have heard him but were unable to respond.

@GeNoAviation

9 ай бұрын

​@@retr0viberI cant hear it but I will crosscheck it.

@canadianbacon2205

8 ай бұрын

@@retr0viber possibly during the collision the recorder cut out for a split second causing it to be delayed

thats why you always trust tcas

@mr.wilsontan

Жыл бұрын

yes

@sitihashimahhashim6672

Жыл бұрын

Bro why does pilot are so stupid

@cripplehawk

Жыл бұрын

At the time it was not the rule. Only after this accident it became mandatory worldwide to follow TCAS over ATC.

@Inquisite1031

11 ай бұрын

it is always a very easy task to say he should have done this and that in hindsight lol

@horsthirschler1518

10 ай бұрын

@@cripplehawkTrue! There were different trainings in terms of crash avoidance between Europe and Russia.

this is so tragic

@GeNoAviation

7 ай бұрын

Indeed

0:49 is DILMUN 600, not sure why they said 600. Maybe it would be shorter?

@GeNoAviation

7 ай бұрын

I dont know..

Why didn't the DHL pilots also hear the ATC? That way they could've reversed their descent.

@GeNoAviation

10 ай бұрын

They relied on the TCAS instructions instead of the ones from the ATC.

@townc2824

10 ай бұрын

@@GeNoAviationBut if they heard that ATC was telling the other plane to also descend...? Would have made sense to start climbing or at least point out what their TCAS was saying.

@moduleapothem6446

10 ай бұрын

@@townc2824They did try to point out their TCAS instruction. They can be heard saying “Zurich 600 TCAS descent” just before the collision, but Nielsen couldn’t hear them because he was focused on another flight on a different radar. Also, the DHL crew had no way of knowing the other crew wouldn’t follow TCAS.

@CaAviation

8 ай бұрын

TACS is the more reliable system in this kind of scenario since it is the two planes communicating directly to create a resolution advisory instead of going through an intermediary (ATC). After this incident, it has become standardized to tell ATC you have a TCAS RA (implying you have followed it) instead of following ATC's command.

What were the odds of two planes crashing in mid-air. Extremely low. But still it happened. Hard to believe even to this day. Tragedy was that the Bashkirian flight had many children on-board. All passengers were alive until the point of impact.

what does btc stand for?

@GeNoAviation

9 ай бұрын

BTC = Bravo Tango Charlie = ICAO Code of Bashkirian Airlines

@Games-ei1qc

9 ай бұрын

@@GeNoAviation Why did they not use the phonetic callsign for BTC which is BASHKIRIAN?

@suspense_comix3237

7 ай бұрын

@@Games-ei1qcIt’s shorter and formal to say Bravo Tango Charlie.

@Games-ei1qc

7 ай бұрын

@@suspense_comix3237 I'd argue that it's longer and harder to say (3 words vs 1) than the actual phonetic callsign. I've also heard other airlines still use letters even when they have an actual callsign.

The dhl plane didnt see the tu 154

BTC 2937 had the old livery

@GeNoAviation

6 ай бұрын

No it already had the new one

@Azuware

6 ай бұрын

@@GeNoAviation The accident aircraft had the original livery. The crash site wreckage shows that the tail fin was mostly white with just the logo instead of the mostly blue tail fin used here.

@raihothexiv15th37

2 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@AzuwareIncorrect, GeNo is correct. Cope

"Shit! , F#ck me" Heartbreaking╯︿╰

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@GeNoAviation

5 ай бұрын

What / who is this?

Cause: Atc error and just cilmb

wait the pilots just said bye bye why didnt they said they had crashed

@GeNoAviation

9 ай бұрын

No. It was another pilot talking on the ATC frequency. It was the pilot of the Aerolloyd plane.

@novaialm2832

9 ай бұрын

ah ok

Did the ATC guy not see the fact that they were on a direct collision course way before they actually collided? He instead tells the Russian plane to descend moments before the collision occurred. What a joke.

@xxEzraBxxx

7 ай бұрын

He was busy managing multiple aircraft. He told one plane to descend and the other to ascend. Their TCAS was saying the opposite. One followed ATC, one followed TCAS, so they both descended.

@jamaljohnson4382

7 ай бұрын

@@xxEzraBxxx that’s not what happened, he only told the Russian flight to descend, he didn’t give instructions to the British flight

@xxEzraBxxx

7 ай бұрын

@@jamaljohnson4382 still unfortunate either way

So the ATC guy really told the Russian plane to descend when he knows that TCAS exists and that the British plane was most certainly getting directions from it which could either be to ascend or descend, so he just gambled and told the Russian flight to descend knowing that the TCAS could be telling the British flight to descend as well, it would have been far better if he didn’t say anything, he directly caused them to crash by telling the Russian flight to descend, did he not realize that the British flight could be getting directions from the TCAS to descend thereby causing them to be on a direct collision course? What an idiot.

@klamin_original

7 ай бұрын

Which British plane?

@Mshi-

7 ай бұрын

I think he means the britidh pilots in the DHL​@@klamin_original

@Vicky87_o.O_

6 ай бұрын

Did you just call the ATC an idiot? Are you aware that he was murdered in front of his family? Or that he had watch out 2 separate airspaces in 2 separate screens without any equipment,?

@jamaljohnson4382

6 ай бұрын

@@Vicky87_o.O_ doesn’t matter that he was murdered it was primarily his fault that the planes crashed

@m1co294

6 ай бұрын

​​​@@jamaljohnson4382 no, not really, nobody was at fault and unironically it was the system at the time. Russian pilots were trained to follow ATC first and foremost, doesn't matter if it's the TCAS that's blaring at them, whilst Western pilots followed TCAS above all else. You really can't blame anyone, "doesn't matter that he was murdered" is a completely heartless statement especially when you realize he was murdered literally right in front of his family in his own apartment. Even if he was at fault, absolutely nobody should say something like that.

baskirian airlines flight 2937 and dhl airline flight 611 have crash boom 💥