Anger and Complex Trauma - Part 9/11 - Characteristics of Abusers

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  • @forgiven5919
    @forgiven59194 ай бұрын

    All the narcissistic people that I know will never consider questioning their own behavior in any way because they are "perfect" in their own eyes.

  • @almondmilksoda

    @almondmilksoda

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes. This herein lies the problem. How can we work on a problem that doesn't exist in their eyes? They refuse to acknowledge it. It is crazy-making and a huge reason why I believe that narcissists are incapable of changing. You can't heal what you don't feel... you can't heal if you're lying to yourself.

  • @valeriemikepinera3828

    @valeriemikepinera3828

    4 ай бұрын

    So true 😮

  • @heide-raquelfuss5580

    @heide-raquelfuss5580

    4 ай бұрын

    I think..., they do not think that they are perfect. But like this man said...they are beyond selfish and do not care about you and what their behavior does to you. Selfcentered. I think they have great shame very easy and will do everything to avoid feeling shame and because they are beyond selfish, they are able to go great lengths to avoid accountabilty and will go in great leghts to destroy you in the process. Again, because they are beyond selfish and do not care if you suffer great damage.

  • @shannonb.7947

    @shannonb.7947

    4 ай бұрын

    @@heide-raquelfuss5580The narcissists I know were told they were very special and the best, since birth, and do believe they are close to perfect.

  • @lobsterbisque7567

    @lobsterbisque7567

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@heide-raquelfuss5580I agree! i dated a a narc who thinks she's a christian, but whenever i tried to hold her accountable for her sinful lifestyle & lawlessness, she would say & do anything & everything to get me away from that topic. It was foolish of me to have gotten into that relationship in the first place, but God was kind, and provided wise counsel, and gave me discernment whenever her masked slipped so i could see her for who she really was: a hypocrite who has been given over to a reprobate mind who rejected God decades ago. Even though her refusal at my attempts to witness to her were polite at first(I didn't know she was a narc at the time), she grew more aggressive with each passing attempt. 4mos. into the relationship, i couldn't ignore how much she loved her lawlessness any longer and finally left her. i knew if i had stayed with her, she would never change, and the abuse would only escalate. i'm grateful to God for also making this clear to me: If I chose to stay with her, He would also abandon me to my own sin like He did with her long ago, and i would eventually end up a reprobate like her. And after all the good things He has chosen to give me(healthy family relationships & friendships, good Biblical teaching, divine protection:physical, emotional, & spiritual to name a few out of countless blessings) Choosing to stay with her would be turning my back on Him and one of the worst acts of ingratitude I could not bring myself to commit against Him. When I left her, i went through the entire range of emotions. But God provided wisdom, counsel & comfort to overcome & process my pain. He was good to me again🤯🤯 And i KNOW i do not deserve any of His kindness or His provision. Through it all, He gently humbled me, and nutured my gratitude. He alone deserves all the Glory for what He has done for me. What the enemy meant for destruction, God turned it to my Good!

  • @insanebrain213
    @insanebrain21311 ай бұрын

    There's also passive aggressive abuse. And gaslighting.

  • @krustysurfer

    @krustysurfer

    4 ай бұрын

    Almost trickier to deal with...

  • @AnaAlmeida001

    @AnaAlmeida001

    4 ай бұрын

    Definitely trickier

  • @krustysurfer

    @krustysurfer

    4 ай бұрын

    @@AnaAlmeida001 cunning........

  • @Nvrsettle111

    @Nvrsettle111

    4 ай бұрын

    And other disorders such as personality disorders-much of this rings true for those as well.

  • @puseletsotsilo

    @puseletsotsilo

    3 ай бұрын

    True

  • @lauraagerlach2864
    @lauraagerlach28644 ай бұрын

    16:21 “No matter what you do, it’ll never be good enough.” Nothing is more accurate.

  • @jeanniecampbell1374

    @jeanniecampbell1374

    4 ай бұрын

    it took me so long to learn this but one day I woke up so exhausted I realised no matter what I did to help my sister I realised I was giving from the well that had run out of water ..hope people learn earlier than I did ,

  • @lilinsulatorchick9665

    @lilinsulatorchick9665

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes. It's like my ex had this as an inspirational quote in his bathroom and read it every single day lol this sums up his behaviors so well. It didn't matter what I did.. it wasn't every enough. I could spend all day cooking a 4 course meal, and at dinner, his one comment would be "the green beans are too salty" lol I'm so glad to be out of that tyranny. He was the definition of impossible.

  • @jaysmamma2750

    @jaysmamma2750

    3 ай бұрын

    With my ex husband, I realized that no matter how far down he pushed me it would never be enough. I had 3 little children and no place to go. In the end, when I stood my ground and I had had enough he quit slamming and choking me. I had to get out and I did. I was the strongest woman I knew but he still managed to abuse me. It's like how you eat an elephant... one piece at a time. These people are cowards. They don't want to go to jail. They don't want you to fight back. It could save your life. If anyone needs to hear this, just leave. Ask for help and get somewhere safe. Don't look back. God bless you 🙏🙏🙏

  • @LuvableAF

    @LuvableAF

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes.

  • @naturale_appeal2790

    @naturale_appeal2790

    3 ай бұрын

    I internalized that. I can believe it.

  • @laurentiurudeanu4102
    @laurentiurudeanu4102 Жыл бұрын

    The series on CPTSD is simply a monumental work. Comprehensive, exhaustive, integrative, crystal clear presentation of a tremendously complex topic. This can save one years of painful fumbling through scattered shady materials and theories

  • @mypersonaltestgia2704

    @mypersonaltestgia2704

    7 ай бұрын

    Yep. Post this comment everywhere! We all found Tim Fletchers education & help waayyyy to late in life!

  • @sally5256

    @sally5256

    4 ай бұрын

    Sooo true!!!!

  • @dianeclayton4936

    @dianeclayton4936

    4 ай бұрын

    Tim's Magnum Opus! ❤ Stunning!

  • @erikafranco609

    @erikafranco609

    4 ай бұрын

    I just found him today I wish I found him years ago! We are survivors !!

  • @ScottMunthali

    @ScottMunthali

    4 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @dargeo1406
    @dargeo14063 ай бұрын

    You’re spot on, thank you. 🙏 Watch out for the overly charming, self-proclaimed “nice guy”. He can be… -Love bombing to get you, followed by.. -Controlling -Manipulative -Deceitful -Overly jealous ( while they are the actual cheater) 🚩 -Possessive -Vindictive -Reckless … I wish this was taught at school. It would save lives. Literally.

  • @mskinetik
    @mskinetik4 ай бұрын

    Regarding the last part of the video. My mother was an abusive narcissist. She read the bible every day, she pretented to be a perfect Christian on the outside, but behind closed doors she was manipulative, cruel, abusive and she certainly didnt treat others as she would like to be treated. As you mentioned, just because someone pretends to be a good Christian doesnt mean they actually practice good morals or values.

  • @MissNandita

    @MissNandita

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah, a family member of mine too participated a lot in prayer sessions and singing god's praise, but she did not apply what god was teaching - to be kind etc. She was very proud of her skills of singing religious songs and the admiration she received but then she started putting down other people and criticizing them, publicly humiliating others in that area. In Hinduism, there was a demon who was a great devotee of god and sang His praises but god punished him for the sins he committed nonetheless. Eventually, the people who admired her because of her skills resented her because of jealousy and they thought she was a bad person. Last thing was not too difficult to convince because she frequently put down people she took for granted.

  • @4Mikes4Mindset4

    @4Mikes4Mindset4

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@MissNanditareligious narcs are the absolute worst versions

  • @tessw9744

    @tessw9744

    4 ай бұрын

    That's because the Jezebel(NPD) spirit is a spirit that prevents sanctification. When people give their life to the Lord, the Holy Spirit trains that person in holiness. So if the person is spending time with God, the Holy Spirit will convict them of sin and lead the person to repentance. And as time goes by we look more and more like Jesus, bearing fruits of God's Spirit. But if a narcissist refuses to be corrected and is unable to acknowledge their faults, they cannot grow in God. How ya gonna grow in God if you believe you're sinless? Scripture says *"God resists the proud and gives grace to the humble."* Narcissists cannot receive grace, grace is God given power to change. It's impossible to walk with Jesus when you're puffed up with pride.

  • @tessw9744

    @tessw9744

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@4Mikes4Mindset4 Yep, 💯

  • @mariainespuigchinet

    @mariainespuigchinet

    3 ай бұрын

    @@tessw9744 Oh yes, as God do with pedophile priests, abusive nons,narcisistic fanatic religiuos parents, corrupt Vatican and so on...::" if at the end of your life you ask god to forgive you, you go to heaven..in the meanwhile you fantasy with jesus coming to resurrect the death""...That Christiany , as every religion, was made by very severe traumatizied folks, is a fact.( I don`t care about your answer, so don`t waist time doing it)

  • @rubberbiscuit99
    @rubberbiscuit996 ай бұрын

    It is pretty disturbing to hear such an accurate description of the behaviors of every abuser I have known in my life. It has been a lot of them, starting with my parents and siblings. I thought I was broken and tried to fix myself all my life. When I understood abuse better, I started setting boundaries and working on my healing. Finally, I found some peace. I hope you find peace too. ☮️❤️

  • @SomeGuy-up4yz

    @SomeGuy-up4yz

    4 күн бұрын

    nice death rune fam

  • @torasacramento4905

    @torasacramento4905

    49 минут бұрын

    I aspire to your self awareness.. Please pray for me.

  • @rubberbiscuit99

    @rubberbiscuit99

    27 минут бұрын

    @@torasacramento4905 There is a price, but it is worth doing the work. It is as simple as showing up. You got this.

  • @rosierb852
    @rosierb8523 ай бұрын

    I left my narcissist on March 1, 2024. Finally got my own place after nearly 6 years. I had no contact with my family in 2019. As of March 2024, I have no narcissists in my life and I'm proud of myself. I'm 31 and I'm in EMDR therapy with a great psychologist. I'm studying again and finally have a career. The sky is the limit now! I feel free and content now! All glory to God, my father. When I say my dad, most people think of my worldly father, but I mean my dad in heaven. I still have work to do, but I'll get through this by praying, healing, and consulting with my father about everything I do in this life. It's scary how accurate this content is. ❤

  • @mfcmxtt6490

    @mfcmxtt6490

    3 ай бұрын

    Go you good thing !! ❤🎉 This is what self esteem looks like, this is what a good life with self esteem and self regulation looks like. I love this for you!

  • @user-xj5jm1kd5l

    @user-xj5jm1kd5l

    3 ай бұрын

    You go girl woo hoo, it's just to have the penny finally drop and then your jaw hits the floor - everything is clear like water and I want to send a shout-out to the mustard seed that I begged for. Lord, just a mustard seed will savee... All the Glory goes to our great, mysterious Heavenly Father, who loves us, He has a plan, with hope for us Amen

  • @franco2b145

    @franco2b145

    3 ай бұрын

    Work hard on NEVER GOING BACKWARDS!! Onward soldier! 🫡

  • @chinmeysway

    @chinmeysway

    3 ай бұрын

    careful. god our dad is def a narcissist if anyone.

  • @chinmeysway

    @chinmeysway

    3 ай бұрын

    @@user-xj5jm1kd5lhow are you certain of this persons gender. def been screwed over super hard by a woman narc. are ppl leaving narcissists always women? hell no !

  • @whowearereally6494
    @whowearereally64943 ай бұрын

    Wow 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 This needs to be taught in schools!!!!! Please get a program on national television on this. I think it would change a lot of peoples lives. He was definitely going to bring me back from narcissistic trauma and help me rebuild my life.

  • @thedivinehealingpractice
    @thedivinehealingpractice3 ай бұрын

    Those emotions we go through when we leave is the stages of grieving. That person you thought they were and kept waiting for never existed therefore that nonexistent person is dead so we go through a process of grieving someone’s death.

  • @beatefuhrer9688

    @beatefuhrer9688

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes. One Thought ... Someone grieving, if he is inner dying, may has a chance before becoming a lost souls. Sad story, because you can only make a good prayer for him, but not saving him, it's the work of our Creator who's the righteousness. We all can imagine and understand: And he was the first who loves us from beginning, the start of existent our life on earth. This early insight gave me my trust into Life. Be Love. Be Peace. Be the Light. God bless you. 🕊️

  • @Heseesyou

    @Heseesyou

    2 ай бұрын

    Grieving what should have been and what was😢😢😢

  • @Heseesyou

    @Heseesyou

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@beatefuhrer9688 are you a born again believer in christ Jesus?

  • @beatefuhrer9688

    @beatefuhrer9688

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Heseesyou Big Smile sharing with you. Maybe. It is the "Higher Self" within me, speaking through me in the name of Jesus Christ, if you can understand it that way. I understand the Concept and the Principles of Truth behind it. I often feel it as a sacred Flow. Being fully aware of it. A world without this maxim, the teaching that Jesus Christ imparted to us, the "Christ Consciousness" in ourselves causes it to be effective in our Reality through us, it actually is, I wouldn't want to miss it, because otherwise our "World" would be hopelessly lost. What else will we be able to orient ourselves by? Our own "becoming conscious" is a challenge to master, and at the same time our best opportunity. Consciousness will develop ever higher through us ... Rising to Divine Co-creation. This is how "Jesus Christ" works through us. After all, we are the Living Temple of God, the only place where God really likes to work and can bring us to Life through this Living Love of His, which we can feel physically and spiritually. A silent voice ... Intuition. It is not just a Thought. Not easy to explain. Not just the Holy Spirit. We can act on it and bring Good into this World, we can all create it together. Create Human Dignity. Truth is a cosmic Force, Truth always serves Life. We become the Divine Instrument with which Love can be victorious on Earth and is realized. A sacred Law. The Intelligence of Life, what a miracle we are or may be. Assuming Free Will! This Law of Resonance is more powerful than we realize. I follow my Intuition. We are Living Soul beings. The New Man is born from the God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, that is the vividly "Heavenly Jerusalem" dwelling in us, and at the same time it is a Rebirth of the Living Love, which we will then work through us if we want to represent it, and to the extent that we let it come alive in ourselves and thus unite it with our own Spirit, this is exactly what we radiate again. We will live according to this, this Living Love Being. Being Peace is a sacred Part of the Language of Love. Imagine Peace. Being Living Love. You and me, all animate beings ... I hope I could answer your question. ;-) We find all the Answers within ourselves. Are you ready to receive them? Whoever opens up ~ can receive. Trust your Life. It is a Divine gift born of Love. Yes. That is the Truth. God loves you. Hug. Beate ❤️

  • @jessicabullock2171
    @jessicabullock217110 ай бұрын

    His explanation of what makes an abuser really hit home. I have never heard it worded so simply and accessibly. When a person values their need or want over love. Mind blowing.

  • @mlou7432
    @mlou74324 ай бұрын

    Everyone should be taught this before relationships!

  • @loading...2535

    @loading...2535

    4 ай бұрын

    I’ve been saying recently why tf did school teach me about everything but MYSELF. I feel duped bc ik the only reason that’s the case is bc if I had a class to learn about myself Id be less pressured to shapeshift into what I’m expected to become, a cog in the capitalist system they got us all trapped in. I feel like they don’t want kids to know themself they don’t really want us to be free thinkers they want to sculpt the youth into more worker bees to work until they r 70.

  • @lilinsulatorchick9665

    @lilinsulatorchick9665

    4 ай бұрын

    For real! If I would've learned this in school, I'd be a totally different person today. And think of how many potential abusers could see this and change because they're ideas have been exposed. It would save so much heart ache.

  • @Youtubehandlesaresilly

    @Youtubehandlesaresilly

    3 ай бұрын

    But then how would society get the kids it needs? (I wish I was joking) The reality is, knowing != doing and healing these internal issues is really, really hard. And takes time. Which historically (and maybe even now?) no one has.

  • @thedivinehealingpractice

    @thedivinehealingpractice

    3 ай бұрын

    Absolutely

  • @staceystrukel1917

    @staceystrukel1917

    3 ай бұрын

    @@KZreadhandlesaresillylmao

  • @Ben-ru9ju
    @Ben-ru9ju4 ай бұрын

    As a child of a mother who left an abuser, I 100% agree leaving is better if you can. My stepmother remarried another abuser. I am not putting up with it. If my biological mom hadn’t left, I would probably think that bad treatment is normal and put up with it.

  • @Angelfooddiet
    @Angelfooddiet4 ай бұрын

    I'm not healed but I'm okay today. I'm grateful for that..

  • @ShiningBrightlyEachDay
    @ShiningBrightlyEachDay4 ай бұрын

    My ex used to say that he hated himself. That is the turning point when I knew that is why he was abusive to those closest to him. It was very sad to experience. I had to end the relationship and move on.

  • @BillyLintzenich-wf7sk

    @BillyLintzenich-wf7sk

    3 ай бұрын

    My narc ex gf used to say she couldnt love anyone because she has no love for herself. Also several times i would text her and say that shes verbally abusing me, so her response was nobody should be abused and/or she'd say that i deserve better and that i should run.

  • @spacelullaby

    @spacelullaby

    3 ай бұрын

    I wish I had the strength to do the same, but I stayed for years until the abuse escalated because I thought there was no one else to support him and he deserved to feel some actual semblance of support and care, turns out your self worth rots and you begin to hate yourself, everything around you becomes warped, I lost my passion for life and my ability to focus on things like music and art very quickly, but I'm the happiest I've been in years now.

  • @fatumakim4217

    @fatumakim4217

    2 ай бұрын

    Same. In the end, he asked me how can he love anyone when he doesn't even love himself. He said he was full of self hatred & when that happened he didn't think about anyone else.

  • @EnglishFuture-xg1gw
    @EnglishFuture-xg1gw11 ай бұрын

    Dear viewer. It may hurt to face these things. and it does. but you will come out the other end in better shape. ❤

  • @KellBelle65
    @KellBelle654 ай бұрын

    The abuser doesn't just threaten the individual but also the children or other family members.

  • @RainingPouringSnoring

    @RainingPouringSnoring

    3 ай бұрын

    This. Pets too. Many people stay in abusive relationships because they can't take their pet(s) to the shelter with them.

  • @user-uh4yj9cy6k

    @user-uh4yj9cy6k

    3 ай бұрын

    @@RainingPouringSnoring How do we help people get their power back? Like when a woman is in a horrible relationship, can we demand she leave with us?

  • @KellBelle65

    @KellBelle65

    2 ай бұрын

    @@user-uh4yj9cy6k You can't demand anyone to do anything. It is always better to reason with someone. However, when a person is in an abusive relationship, the stress level along with various responsibilities may make a decision difficult to make. FEAR is the driving emotion and the abuser uses it to their advantage. You won't get anywhere by demanding anything. They may be terrified of their abuser but they will also be afraid of the unknown and the chance of going from the frying pan into the fire. Tread lightly.

  • @alee77777
    @alee777774 жыл бұрын

    Tim is a rock star. He is my gift from God!

  • @BeRightBack131
    @BeRightBack1313 ай бұрын

    3 minutes in and I can tell you this is 100% accurate. When I finally escaped my abusive parents, I fought so hard to overcome the shame, so that I would never be like my father. My 7 siblings, on the other hand, swung the other way. They had so much shame that they became abusers like my dad. I know this because first of all, I grew up with them, so I know their shame, but also because they talked about it in certain ways. Me, though... I faced the shame. I cried, I got angry about it, I accepted it as my past reality, I forgave myself (for not being perfect). I allowed myself to not be perfect, because nobody is perfect. It's the hardest battle anyone will ever fight, turning around and facing yourself in the mirror. But it's also the most liberating battle you'll ever win. Because once you can look at yourself in the mirror and find peace, come to terms with your life, past and present, become comfortable in your own skin - meaning I'm okay, I am who I am, if you don't like me, that's okay, because not everyone likes everyone else. It's difficult to explain all the deep work that has to be done, but once you do, it changes your life... anyway, this is very accurate.

  • @cupcake0480

    @cupcake0480

    3 ай бұрын

    👏

  • @vee1545

    @vee1545

    3 ай бұрын

    Good on you for doing the hard work ❤ this was an inspiring read and a good reminder that I’m not ‘just too sensitive’

  • @cleber7081

    @cleber7081

    3 ай бұрын

    I found out that my mother is a narcissist, then rushed to tell my siblings, who listened and ignored. I sounded crazy saying narcissistic mother, pointing out things she did to them that they always ignored. I'm the youngest son, they promised to support my studies, but ended up repeating everything my mother did; the perfectionism to make things right was evident. This drove me crazy to the point of waking up at 3:30 in the morning. The lack of money made me extremely disciplined to succeed in my studies; with every failure, I pointed out my mistakes. I discovered there's such a thing as a co-narcissist/codepency. I'm still fighting for a good job, keeping my head steady is being difficult, but I'm close.

  • @MS-wy4sb

    @MS-wy4sb

    4 күн бұрын

    Question: how did you work through the shame? I've worked through some of it. Other parts of it are really difficult to work through?

  • @bygrace8485
    @bygrace84853 ай бұрын

    The cognitive dissonance is one of the hardest things to reconcile; integrating the nice, charming guy and the cold, calculated monster as the same person… rough.

  • @GeorgiaEnglish88
    @GeorgiaEnglish884 ай бұрын

    His sequence of stages of abuse is eerily accurate. It gives a lot of clarity, but also makes me feel stupid like I fell for an age-old scheme.

  • @Here4TheHeckOfIt

    @Here4TheHeckOfIt

    4 ай бұрын

    Why feel stupid? Undergirding all of this is an abuse of trust. To love is to trust. You can't have a loving relationship without it and that is the risk taken when starting a relationship and getting to know someone. The person being abused believes they are loved back, while the abuser prioritizes their needs. You just took a risk and it didn't work out because it was the wrong person.

  • @mombythesea2426

    @mombythesea2426

    4 ай бұрын

    It IS age-old, which means millions of people throughout time and across continents have been caught up in it. You're definitely not alone or stupid.

  • @BeRightBack131

    @BeRightBack131

    3 ай бұрын

    I used to feel like that, felt stupid that I fell for his mask, the ages old manipulation tactics, etc. Then I realized that I wasn't the only one. His other wife fell for it. So did all the counselors, custody evaluators, lawyers, neighbors, his family, etc. It's because they know when to turn on the charm and bs the right people at the right time. He even had MY family believing his lies. I finally asked my mom why the whole family was turning against me. She said well he said you did this and that, and I just stared at her, before finally saying mom! Are you serious? You know me better than anyone. Do you really think I would do such things? I could see the light bulb going off in her head, a sudden epiphany... then she realized that she had fallen for his charm and lies, too. At that moment, he lost all power over my family. So don't feel stupid. Many, many others before and after you have been tricked in the same way. You came to the table (relationship) with trust, honesty, true intentions, love, and morality. The other person came to the table with the intention and idea to trick you into believing in their mask. If such trickery didn't work time and time again over the thousands of years of human existence, they wouldn't be using the same old tricks over and over again. You and I are not the first, nor will we be the last people on earth to be tricked by such people. While it might be a tactic as old as the hills, it was a new experience for us, and we had no way of knowing what to look for. You wouldn't expect a kindergartener to know everything on the first day of school, so why expect yourself to be so all-knowing to know how to navigate a narcissist/abusive person? Especially when they're so very, very good at hiding their true selves.

  • @staceystrukel1917

    @staceystrukel1917

    3 ай бұрын

    Me too

  • @margaretmlydon6910

    @margaretmlydon6910

    2 ай бұрын

    Please don't beat yourself up. You were played. That's the simple fact. Learn from it and make sure to, stop, and think, before giving over your heart to someone new. If it doesn't feel right, don't waste your, time, love and energy on them. Take care.❤

  • @foxiefair123
    @foxiefair1234 ай бұрын

    Believe it or not it feels comfortable. You know you need to leave, but when they’re not being abusive you feel safe. I know it’s weird, but also if the person is so controlling that they won’t let you out of their sight you get Stockholm Syndrome. This was my experience during my marriage with my son’s father.

  • @Patsanford220

    @Patsanford220

    4 ай бұрын

    Trauma bonding 😢

  • @foxiefair123

    @foxiefair123

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Patsanford220 Exactly.

  • @elizabethy2912

    @elizabethy2912

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah, you put it really well. This was my experience as well.

  • @franco2b145

    @franco2b145

    3 ай бұрын

    The power is yours!

  • @cristenhartman5185

    @cristenhartman5185

    3 ай бұрын

    It's called a Trauma Bond.

  • @TellSamyra
    @TellSamyra4 жыл бұрын

    Excellent description of narcissists/abusers

  • @elbradavid533
    @elbradavid5334 ай бұрын

    No one in the religious community is doing his work. Amazing!

  • @reck0n3r

    @reck0n3r

    4 ай бұрын

    They can't because they don't have the same level of understanding.

  • @pattyjordan3656

    @pattyjordan3656

    4 ай бұрын

    They are saying the opposite and adding secondary abuse.

  • @dani323

    @dani323

    3 ай бұрын

    That you have not found them does not mean that they are not there. #krisreece does a great job! And a group of therapists too here on KZread.

  • @user-uh4yj9cy6k

    @user-uh4yj9cy6k

    3 ай бұрын

    @@pattyjordan3656 Right. 'Endure till the end.' No!

  • @joelthemodelcitizen

    @joelthemodelcitizen

    2 ай бұрын

    Listen to Jesse Lee Petersons church. Not his political stuff so much as his church. He’s got a unique way of sayin it, but his message is in the same vein. It too is Amazin!

  • @marilynwarbis7224
    @marilynwarbis72243 ай бұрын

    The one help I needed in escaping from living with a malevolent narcissist, was help in physical escape, i.e., money to leave and rent a new place to live. Nothing else helped - neither psychiatrists, counsellors, friends. I just needed to leave, with my children, but couldn't through lack of money.

  • @user-uh4yj9cy6k

    @user-uh4yj9cy6k

    3 ай бұрын

    This is where we are at as a family. Once my daughter told me her boyfriend took her phone and cut off access to money, I told her, get the kids from daycare and move in with us! She didn't want to be a 'burden or a bother'. I said you will not be! Please! She went back to him and now things are very bad. We can barely talk to her because he has so much locked down!

  • @doricetimko5403

    @doricetimko5403

    3 ай бұрын

    @@user-uh4yj9cy6kI’m praying for you and your daughter, sending loving energy your way.

  • @wishfulbeauty

    @wishfulbeauty

    2 ай бұрын

    Same. I knew others like myself were and are going through the nightmare. I compare it to being in a “nazi camp” and I was the person (if I didn’t escape) somehow….would be in the “gas chamber” silenced w no regard and with a huge cover up. Sounds extreme ….doesn’t it. Sadly…that’s what came over me and gave me a whole new perspective for sooo many who faced their death at the hands of their abusers and the community around them pretending “they care and do nothing” The movie, Sleeping with the enemy hits home along with Children Under the stairs, flowers in the attic. The abusers were not a significant other but a whole system of a nuclear family. Domestic violence against women didn’t classify this abuse as worthy to help me to get out in my very small town. Blows my mind. Literally.

  • @saskiavermeulen3346

    @saskiavermeulen3346

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly, just this! And the people around are only saying leave! Why you are still there and start to bully....but where to go? They do not care and do not help you....exactly, money and house is the only thing that saves you asap

  • @karenlynch8348
    @karenlynch83483 ай бұрын

    If only we had SUPPORT to leave

  • @SarahG266

    @SarahG266

    2 ай бұрын

    I’m being my own support. Built myself up for years and now I’m ready. Good luck.

  • @cloudmountaindog8537

    @cloudmountaindog8537

    Ай бұрын

    Sometimes the support is a refuge. I found that okay.

  • @knowmoresearch

    @knowmoresearch

    10 күн бұрын

    There are support groups almost anywhere. Even if it's just a neighbor or coworker who's gone through divorce or similar situation.

  • @torasacramento4905

    @torasacramento4905

    50 минут бұрын

    amen

  • @ShirleyMcalpine
    @ShirleyMcalpine4 ай бұрын

    I have several degrees which I can do nothing with because I also have traumatic brain injury. I'm having to learn everything from the beginning. What I do remember is that I was severely abused as a child and that is still with me, although I've spent my lifetime healing. I'm 74 years old now. I know a great deal about complex PTSD and I just want to say that you make excellent points and you put them in such a way that they're easy to understand. No One needs complex ideas with complex PT SD and now that I'm relearning everything, you've helped me a lot to put things in perspective. I just want to thank you! Thank you so much for all that you've done.

  • @Lyrielonwind

    @Lyrielonwind

    3 ай бұрын

    You are right. I have listened to some channels which makes me sleepy. English is my second language but I can tell when people go talking around circles and with so many words that it's easy to get lost or bored and sleepy.

  • @sunnyadams5842
    @sunnyadams58424 ай бұрын

    Today, now, is the perfect time to leave The Narcissist.

  • @tiadobi6932
    @tiadobi69324 жыл бұрын

    Pastor Tim's insights are extraordinary. Thank you for this psyche education made simple. The more needs you have that trump love the more of a narcissist you are.... Abusers don't come showing you they're an abuser on day 1.

  • @azania3817
    @azania38174 ай бұрын

    The gratitude I have to God for leading me here! For years I have suffered with cptsd But therapist and doctors don’t know I’ve been healing for years however relapsed from another traumatic experience I’ve never been so determined to turn everything around, on medication to help my mental whilst giving my life back to God rewriting my story Thank You for this… I pray God keeps my soul mate whilst I heal

  • @ShandaMichelle1

    @ShandaMichelle1

    3 ай бұрын

    God has got you! It’s absolutely amazing how Christ can change everything when we truly seek Him with all our heart. 🤍

  • @cmay2840
    @cmay28404 ай бұрын

    A lot of narcissists were SPOILED

  • @heide-raquelfuss5580

    @heide-raquelfuss5580

    4 ай бұрын

    I know a lot who where spoiled AND abused in some way or form, also some where abandoned, neglected. For example...enough comfort, goods, an easy life in general, but bullied at the same time.

  • @mombythesea2426

    @mombythesea2426

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@heide-raquelfuss5580I know a lot who grew up in mansions with the best of everything, and were told how amazing and perfect they were, while simultaneously facing abuse like being locked in their rooms for hours and being told they were useless, worthless humans. They're abusive adults now

  • @chezzysquatch

    @chezzysquatch

    4 ай бұрын

    As if that’s their fault. Parents are trash. The cycle continues.

  • @cmay2840

    @cmay2840

    4 ай бұрын

    @@chezzysquatch it's their fault....they KNOW what they are doing.

  • @cmay2840

    @cmay2840

    4 ай бұрын

    @@mombythesea2426 I know a lot of people that were abused way worse, poor, and don't treat people badly

  • @genxmum5569
    @genxmum55694 ай бұрын

    The problem I found with having consideration for the children was seeing what happened in other families when Dad was granted 50/50 custody and had no interest in caring for the children. They were neglected and abused worse without the other parent being there.

  • @michellezoske7581
    @michellezoske75814 ай бұрын

    Empty gestures to act like they care enough todo maindain things out of love but really they hate and despise u

  • @SomeGuy-up4yz

    @SomeGuy-up4yz

    4 күн бұрын

    The real trouble is that most people in the world are like this.

  • @Eva-np7hf
    @Eva-np7hf3 ай бұрын

    For me it's impossible to heal unless I understand what causes a narcissist to behave the way they do. I'm so thankfull for this superb explanation.

  • @andrewpipitone1572
    @andrewpipitone157211 ай бұрын

    This fellows videos are invaluable.❤

  • @nomakeupcutie
    @nomakeupcutie3 ай бұрын

    Just so you know, my abuser didn't show the negative aspects until an argument. I didn't recognize the isolation or the smear campaigns because I was never told about it. The isolation was subtle as they leaned into hurt that was already there.

  • @andreamagyar5541

    @andreamagyar5541

    3 ай бұрын

    You don't know what you don't know . Now you know better.

  • @SomeGuy-up4yz

    @SomeGuy-up4yz

    4 күн бұрын

    The smear campaigns are entirely public--basically the Duluth Model is one.

  • @davechristensen6117
    @davechristensen61172 ай бұрын

    This is all so true. It does annoy me though, that in his examples of narcissistic behaviour, the narcissist is almost always referred to as a ‘he’. This definitely is not just a male issue!

  • @wastedanalogues8991

    @wastedanalogues8991

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I think as years have gone by people respect men more on those aspects thst their is just as many abusive women....

  • @frograna1897
    @frograna18973 ай бұрын

    I've seen so many narcissist/abuse videos...this guy nailed it . Absolutely 💯 wow. Thank you. I left 2 years ago after 10 years and 5 kids. But wow. Wish I'd have seen this 10 years ago.

  • @DaughterofChurch
    @DaughterofChurch4 ай бұрын

    What about reactive abuse? I was in a relationship where we both had shame and both became toxic. It brought out the worst parts I vowed never to be, and it was so hard to forgive myself.

  • @Couscous77

    @Couscous77

    3 ай бұрын

    I’m fairly certain that’s not exactly reactive abuse but honestly i have incorrectly used it this way before myself. Reactive abuse is when abusers rile up strong emotion in a target then the abuser points and says look you are proving me right! Look how angry you are! It’s not that we yell at them because they yell at us. Reactive abuse is a specific cycle.

  • @doricetimko5403

    @doricetimko5403

    3 ай бұрын

    Good on you for recognizing AND acknowledging what was going on. We always have this moment to choose to take a fork in the road, or a side trail as life goals evolve.

  • @jordansharp7081

    @jordansharp7081

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@Couscous77yes this! It's when theu argue or gaslight you and provoke you into a response/reaction with anger or physical violence or self defence and say you're the abusive one. That you're the violent one when you were reacting and defending yourself against their behaviours

  • @bevsofroniuk1193
    @bevsofroniuk1193 Жыл бұрын

    Don't let emotions cloud facts ( limbic vs cortex)

  • @Sproutgoodnight1161
    @Sproutgoodnight1161 Жыл бұрын

    Hallelujah you can pray at anytime and anywhere walking down the street before an stressful situation at home in your closet under a tree outside in your backyard at home in bed just pray.

  • @OneSparrow-76
    @OneSparrow-767 ай бұрын

    Mine took 6 years to unmask…I can see warning signs now, but it was like a frog in a pan and the heat was turning up before..

  • @Julia78309

    @Julia78309

    4 ай бұрын

    That's such a true analogy

  • @lauraagerlach2864

    @lauraagerlach2864

    4 ай бұрын

    Mine took 10 years to unmask; I feel for us.

  • @OneSparrow-76

    @OneSparrow-76

    4 ай бұрын

    @@lauraagerlach2864, I am sorry you have had to face it as well. You ARE worthy of Love, compassion, tenderness…I’m praying for you and you heart and mind…❤️‍🩹

  • @robins3672

    @robins3672

    3 ай бұрын

    OMG! I’ve said the same thing - it’s like boiling a frog. Six years for me, too. Narcissistic behavior associated with AUD. Fortunately no physical abuse.

  • @karenlynch8348

    @karenlynch8348

    3 ай бұрын

    They are ALL. Like that. We also missed signs we didn’t want to see

  • @bushraalmas5397
    @bushraalmas5397 Жыл бұрын

    I have no words to express my fealings,wasted my whole life with an abuser,now crying what i have done with my life

  • @TheBlackCat1337

    @TheBlackCat1337

    Жыл бұрын

    same, I did it to to protect others. The abuse will keep getting worse. They cannot see reality.

  • @Julia78309

    @Julia78309

    4 ай бұрын

    They can't.. usually if you try to tell a friend they usually say you're wrong..🙄

  • @doricetimko5403

    @doricetimko5403

    3 ай бұрын

    You learned an important lesson and you survived. Now it’s time to thrive.

  • @arlenepoirier

    @arlenepoirier

    3 ай бұрын

    Like one person said: when you know better you do better. You did what you could with the toolbox you had. Forgive yourself because you will be filled with cancer: shame and guilt. This type of cancer kills the soul.😮 Do your best starting today and ask for wisdom and discernment. 😊 Blessing. May the peace/healing of the Lord Jesus overcome all your pain and sadness.

  • @Goodboy0953

    @Goodboy0953

    2 ай бұрын

    Same here! Waisted the last 23 years.

  • @davemustachio2734
    @davemustachio27342 ай бұрын

    You are describing my wife to a T. She is verbally abusive and she puts me down all the time especially in front of my friends. We are going through marriage counseling. She has trauma she is not dealing with. I told if I stay she is going to deal with the trauma or I am gone.

  • @victoriarosario3338
    @victoriarosario33383 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this series Mr. Fletcher. I cannot begin to express the gratitude that I feel for your work on CPTSD/Shame & Abuse, and Co-dependency. I am 64 and would have given anything to have your knowledge when I first started going to counselors 47 years ago..."Better late than never", right? 🙏💔🌞Thank you. And God Bless you!

  • @jgauffin4548
    @jgauffin45486 ай бұрын

    Omg, this is so true that I can't even believe someone can describe it all so 100% correct. Lived and suffered through all aspects of this living hell with my narcissist ex-partner. There's no more miserable life than what you get stuck in with these monsters.

  • @sarahalderman3126
    @sarahalderman31268 ай бұрын

    Wow!!! I have never been able to articulate this desire or instinct I have had to HIDE my own shame/embarrassment! I have felt such intense guilt because I felt so drawn to it, yet HATED just the thought of feeling it. So afraid that I desired to be like those who hurt me. Such intense guilt for even feeling or thinking these things! I could never understand WHY I felt that way and then when my husband humiliated me by cheating and lying about it for years I simply died inside. That is how it has felt, I was trapped by these emotions, I could never escape because the enemy was now INSIDE of me. One that I could never allow to escape yet tortured me constantly. There was no way out. Until I began to listen to these. This is probably the 100th time I have listened now and I can not even begin to describe the peace and joy that has re entered my soul simply from understanding my own thoughts and feelings. I can release my guilt for these emotions. I can love myself despite my weaknesses. How did I receive 8 YEARS of trauma counseling and have NEVER have even come close to this peace of understanding?

  • @belogical3961

    @belogical3961

    4 ай бұрын

    Because he didn't want your money? Sometimes we hide and let shame be our God. Shame has dictated so many decisions in my life and it has tried to turn me into a narcissist. The only way out for me is to tell others about the things that shame me. It is scary but an adventure you have been seeking your entire life. Now that the person is out of your life, there will be a void. Do you have a void from the husband that you got away from? You should, I hope you understand that you need to feel the void that is there from the missing person and take with you the good parts that your ex filled. I have started to pretend I am no longer married to my wife and what it will take to be without her. I bawled like a baby in the shower just a minute ago. But the key is to not go back to the ex, but to feel the pain and to feel gratitude towards God that you are thankful for the support he was and keep that with you forever.

  • @doricetimko5403

    @doricetimko5403

    3 ай бұрын

    I don’t know the answer to that last question but I am so gladdened to know that you’re experiencing peace and resolution 💜

  • @coda2197
    @coda21973 ай бұрын

    Please don’t stay for the kids. My kids in their 20’s are still dealing with the fallout of covert abuse we all endured.

  • @anatoliypankevych4853

    @anatoliypankevych4853

    2 ай бұрын

    I understand that. I tried to make that work, but it only got worse. And now my 3-year old son is with his abusive mother and I can’t even save him from there

  • @junepaterson2267

    @junepaterson2267

    2 ай бұрын

    Same.

  • @AnimalFarm341

    @AnimalFarm341

    2 ай бұрын

    Court system doesn’t protect the children. They still deal with it and I can’t do anything about it.

  • @XZ858XZ
    @XZ858XZ2 жыл бұрын

    In all my nearly 3 decades on this earth and time in church and bible camp, I never learned how to properly pray until today. Thank you 🙏🏽 Pastor Tim

  • @debrakarr996

    @debrakarr996

    23 күн бұрын

    The proper way is the way each one of us pray. No magic from anyone else. It's how we pray. Pray everyday just not when you need something. We must talk to God everyday which is praying. Prayers

  • @user-fj5bd6qt4c
    @user-fj5bd6qt4c4 ай бұрын

    I recognize that I can become emotionally abusive if triggered by things I say or write. Am working very hard to become aware of things that trigger me so that I can learn to be stable in my reactions…I am healing, step by step. You are helping me. Thank you. Do have appt with Intake.

  • @MrExlax10
    @MrExlax102 ай бұрын

    This one hurts the most but I need to focus on it and learn from it.

  • @Lyrielonwind
    @Lyrielonwind3 ай бұрын

    Coming from a Catholic tradition (quite dark and punitive) and thinking about the songs I had to sing, they were quite pompous and I appreciate more simple words like "Oh, happy day" and it's rhythm; it's a song that makes me cheerful. The older I get the more I enjoy simplicity in any aspect, music, literature, etc.

  • @whynot4
    @whynot411 ай бұрын

    Abusers nowadays have adapted and they get you by saying let’s take it slow and they won’t pressure you and make you feel like you are pressing them

  • @BlinkinFirefly

    @BlinkinFirefly

    4 ай бұрын

    This definitely happened to me. I think you're onto something. The abuser I knew would get over-defensive even if I just asked how their day was. He is a twisted person.

  • @whynot4

    @whynot4

    3 ай бұрын

    @@BlinkinFirefly yes! So defensive and they make you feel like you have crossed their boundaries and violated them over something normal. It makes you question who you really are and you walk on eggshells not to make them upset or say you are doing anything to them. They tell their friends you are really abusing them and they are the ones violated when you are just trying to ask them about their behavior that was bad towards you. It’s crazy

  • @KathyRea01
    @KathyRea013 ай бұрын

    My parent was abusive and I had a traumatic childhood, but I don't go around being a dick to other people...

  • @SomeGuy-up4yz

    @SomeGuy-up4yz

    4 күн бұрын

    Yeah, that is normal though. People who are attached to their horrible parents tend to emulate them. Real hatred is going out of your way to never be like them at all.

  • @kevinewing-oo8ix
    @kevinewing-oo8ix3 ай бұрын

    Excellent presentation .. I didn't see it coming. Shame from being disrespected as a child. Very helpful

  • @Melinamiu007
    @Melinamiu0077 ай бұрын

    Wow. this man is a genius.

  • @Syl-Vee
    @Syl-VeeАй бұрын

    36:30 - 54:20 the segment about prayer and abuse of prayer is so skillfully expressed, forthright and without guile. It points to a wellspring of healing and compassion.

  • @robinchilds7492
    @robinchilds74924 ай бұрын

    I didn't leave until my kids were in college. They still resent me and won't even talk to me.

  • @lindasharp8523

    @lindasharp8523

    3 ай бұрын

    My 3 are horrible. I've done with the disrespect and abuse.

  • @Eirene628

    @Eirene628

    3 ай бұрын

    😢

  • @AdriAna-sr8yb
    @AdriAna-sr8ybАй бұрын

    Exactly like my husband and he also has a TBI to make things even worse. The 3rd week of our marriage he become very verbally abusive towards me. Calling me awful names, shouting, throwing things, banging doors. Awful marriage for the past 8 years.

  • @jimthechaosbunny
    @jimthechaosbunnyАй бұрын

    I really appreciate that the first half of this is from a secular perspective, so it stays relevant to those of us who aren't religious. Thank you for separating that out! One gentle point to bring up: I don't think telling people who are in abusive relationships that they/we aren't strong enough to help them is a great idea. On hearing it, it just feels like a challenge. "If I'm strong enough, if I step up enough, I'll be able to help them." It could risk feeding into that abuse-victim mindset of 'If I am just good enough, I can fix them.' Whereas I think what you really wanted to say is that no matter how strong we are, staying in and of itself does not help them. It is the staying in the relationship, rather than our lack of strength, that enables the abuse, and if we want it to stop, we have to stop enabling it. As a past survivor of relationship based violence, and now finding myself in a relationship with someone that, however well-meaning, is edging on emotional abuse, I had to talk myself down from that ledge already. I have already walked out, but now I have to stand my ground and stay gone, because going back without seeing real change is only encouraging the harmful behaviours. Thank you so much for this video though. There is so much of value here. I've watched it through twice and I've made so many notes for myself, and I'm incredibly grateful for your putting this out into the world.

  • @tinydoodlepieP
    @tinydoodlepieP2 ай бұрын

    The other night, I prayed to God to help me only act from a place of love with my child and then this video series came up in my feed. Thank you. 🙏

  • @terayzea9240
    @terayzea92403 ай бұрын

    People stay because they have been beaten down. I don’t believe we stay because we don’t think we can’t do better. We stay because we fell in love with a fake persona that’s never coming back once the mask comes off.

  • @SomeGuy-up4yz

    @SomeGuy-up4yz

    4 күн бұрын

    Or it was all you knew growing up so you were weirded out by anything else.

  • @smolove3336

    @smolove3336

    Күн бұрын

    Some of us stay because we hope that our love will be enough to help them heal from their childhood trauma. After 15 years I am learning that if someone doesn't want to do the work and self reflect and grow, we will be stuck in loneliness and deprivation forever. I am no longer content. We have kids and I have always felt that if I left him he somehow would beco me isolated and not fully thrive.

  • @sandracaezza7234
    @sandracaezza72344 ай бұрын

    My life for 24 yrs. I have had much therapy & no one has ever touched on these topics in this way. I was married to a narc/addict. Many relapse/recovery. I finally worked on myself & found the bare minimum was not enough anymore. His last relapse was so demoralizing with steroids gym adoration gay porn . 1-1-24 I discarded & my new journey is a blessing in so many ways Grateful for on going education ty

  • @Monalisa0622

    @Monalisa0622

    4 ай бұрын

    Very similar. Married 17 yrs, separated for 4 with 2 kids. Same, steroids, drugs and sleeping with men I recently found out. The difference is he took his life this Dec.

  • @sandracaezza7234

    @sandracaezza7234

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Monalisa0622 the content in these videos is most helpful . I recognize the pain you have felt. May you have peace & continue your growth on your journey.

  • @sarahkennedy1481

    @sarahkennedy1481

    3 ай бұрын

    Why do you think they turned gay or had gay sex?

  • @Snow-wz6eu

    @Snow-wz6eu

    3 ай бұрын

    Most addict are narcs. Mostly men.

  • @dk5755
    @dk57552 ай бұрын

    Lightbulb moment - when causing the pain and calling it love. This totally explains my confusion

  • @chrislong2204
    @chrislong220411 ай бұрын

    This is the first time I have heard of the limbic system as driving the emotional choices of trauma bonded victims. It explains a lot though. Great series.

  • @bonnielynn6662
    @bonnielynn66624 ай бұрын

    Coming from an upbringing where abuse was normalized...This has brought so much enlightenment...I can overcome this and so can you! ❤ Thank you from the bottom of my heart and soul.

  • @bettyjean740
    @bettyjean7402 ай бұрын

    I state in extremely mentally abusive relationship because I had been in a physically abusive one plus childhood. I simply didn't recognize it. I believed I was being to sensative. There was yelling close in my face, usually if I was feeling good or happy and relaxed my response was to cry and then it was spun to see, you are sick and over reactive, you need therapy, quit living in the past, etc. I kept trying to change myself!

  • @dyanajones3298
    @dyanajones329810 ай бұрын

    This had a lot of practical application to glean.

  • @hman9581
    @hman95812 ай бұрын

    29:55 - Respect and Stand up for yourself. (Others treat you as how you feel about yourself - "You are not so important" ). Worth it.

  • @forgingstrength6119
    @forgingstrength61192 ай бұрын

    I lived with this almost 14 years. It almost ended my life.

  • @keldub7123
    @keldub71233 ай бұрын

    Betrayal Trauma is real, is common and more people need to talk about this. Thankyou so much.

  • @lblincoe2094
    @lblincoe209411 ай бұрын

    It sounds so obvious and clear cut to invalidate staying for the kids when you point out how much better/safer the kids would be without the abuser, but leaving the abusive relationship means YOU get to escape the abuser, it doesn't mean the kids do! Unless the abuser has been physically abusive AND it was bad enough AND you've got proof of it AND you've got someone reasonable working in family law deciding your fate, leaving just means the kids are now exposed to the abuser on their own without your protection. Sure, they're with you and safely away from the abuser half of the time, but the other half of the time they're completely vulnerable and you're no longer present to make sure they're safe. Custody is a messy, broken system that fails kids as much as it helps them.

  • @y.peffle2802

    @y.peffle2802

    4 ай бұрын

    a lot of times the spouse to the abuser is an enabler

  • @jimig399

    @jimig399

    4 ай бұрын

    I think this is why America is in a downward spiral. The family dynamic is unimportant to the family courts. Fathers have been deemed unnecessary and that is wrong. Fathers teach children honor, integrity and social cues. Necessary things to interact in society. 26 million kids are growing up in homes in America this year without a father or any positive, male role model in the home. That is trauma. These traumatized kids are going out and having kids only to traumatize those kids. We need to stop having kids. The system is chewing them up and spitting them out for profit and don't care about the collateral damage that fractures out from there. Mine will be among them.

  • @socol76

    @socol76

    4 ай бұрын

    That’s why I stayed as long as I did, I couldn’t bear to have my children with him for half the time when I wouldn’t be there to protect them.

  • @EllaCinder-lh4ro

    @EllaCinder-lh4ro

    3 ай бұрын

    @@y.peffle2802anyone who “ stays “ with an abuser ( addict - this terms and labels come from the addiction recovery community ) is labeled as being “ enablers “ or “ codependents “ because in this system of understanding, the people who “ allow “ ( isn’t this ironic since relationships of abuse are all about unilateral control ) an abuser or addict is dependent on power abuse, or alcohol, or drugs and those in relationship with them are characterized to be dependent ( codependent ) on them. The reality is that people often stay in relationships for too long for tangible reasons ( shame, lack of resources, guilt, fear, low self worth or material or physical resources) not because they are “ addicted “ or “ covertly controlling “ .. My comments are fully supportive of everything Tim is saying about the difference between reasons and rationalizations; but terms like “ enablers “ are borrowed from a paradigm describing drug dependency and puts a problematic slant in understanding the nuances of long term trauma and abuse. I hope I’m making my point clear.

  • @laurenhamilton3537

    @laurenhamilton3537

    3 ай бұрын

    @@socol76 That's also why I stayed so long. There would also have been the risk of a cruel step mother for my children.

  • @Monalisa0622
    @Monalisa06224 ай бұрын

    What a blessing I found this channel. There is so much that I can relate with.

  • @user-zz8zv5fm7p
    @user-zz8zv5fm7p2 ай бұрын

    I left a violent dating relationship asap and ended up in a battered womens shelter where I was abused and shamed by the other survivors. I barely survived being stalked and killed by this crazy guy and I had no soft place to fall. We need more training and more options for women fleeing these people. I ended up eventually working as a resource specialist in the school district and with God's help rebuilt a healthy life.

  • @wendywright5486
    @wendywright548616 күн бұрын

    My husband just passed away last week , I did years of work to straighten up and he got very sick so I moved in too help him. Despite everything that went on. I watched him wither away over three years & he began too get sundowner syndrome, He started. To show signs again of becoming abusive at the hospice , We weren't in a romantic relationship any longer Mostly because of how sick he was and because that ended almost immediately after moving in together 37 years ago I feel psychologically safer on the planet and I was able to do the work. It took to get myself better, but even in the last 6 months. To hear some of those things that came out of his mouth when he was sick at night.Started to bring me back to a place where when he passed away.It was actually and still is a relief and it hasn't even been a week yet. He was cunning ,he was charming, He worked really hard and had a great reputation and hid in the church.Every time that a gigantic Abusive situation will come up and Verizon.His church group never saw him that way.And I think some of them are having a hard time dealing with the fact that i'm not having any type of ceremony.

  • @roxy7255
    @roxy7255Ай бұрын

    Love your content. Particularly pointing out people stay with abusers have the same shame. Very frustrating listening to people who are or have been abused point the finger at the abuser.

  • @VikingSpirit942
    @VikingSpirit9424 ай бұрын

    This is an incredibly accurate and clear explanation- and it is amazing that it runs to such a predictable pattern-unfortunately I can confirm all of this is 110% correct and also very practical without being judgemental- wonderful job!!!

  • @steceymorgan814
    @steceymorgan8143 ай бұрын

    Tripping is not really bad but find a good mycologist Who will teach you the right things you need to know

  • @APOLLINAIREBARTHOLOMIEU

    @APOLLINAIREBARTHOLOMIEU

    3 ай бұрын

    Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Germany. Really need

  • @patriaciasmith3499

    @patriaciasmith3499

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes, dr.sporessss. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.

  • @IkamiLog

    @IkamiLog

    3 ай бұрын

    The shroom experience stands as my most remarkable journey, an awe-inspiring encounter that left an indelible mark of amazement.

  • @APOLLINAIREBARTHOLOMIEU

    @APOLLINAIREBARTHOLOMIEU

    3 ай бұрын

    Is he on instagram?

  • @patriaciasmith3499

    @patriaciasmith3499

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes he is. dr.sporessss

  • @CMoore8539
    @CMoore85394 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this with us! Excellent Pastor Tim!!!

  • @KoolT
    @KoolT9 ай бұрын

    I was agnostic and so afraid of God. Alanon helped me so much.

  • @foxiefair123

    @foxiefair123

    4 ай бұрын

    God loves you. He is there waiting for you with open arms until you are ready.

  • @greggarnes8387
    @greggarnes83873 ай бұрын

    This description fits what corporate america does to their employees. Fits like a glove as to how the ass kissing pyramid of hierarchy plays itself out.

  • @sunnyadams5842
    @sunnyadams58424 ай бұрын

    Brilliant man. Brilliant as all the videos from Tim Fletcher are. Clear as a bell explanations. Listen up, folks.

  • @invisiblegirl28
    @invisiblegirl283 ай бұрын

    I'm amazed at how accurate he is.

  • @ericborczuk135
    @ericborczuk1353 ай бұрын

    This part (and the part about how people with complex trauma "Create what they hate") have been extremely revelatory to me. Thank you so much

  • @jilewa
    @jilewa3 ай бұрын

    This is such great information. Our whole society needs this knowledge to evolve. Thankyou for sharing your work and making it accessible 🙌❤ One thing I realised in your point about limbic vs cortex, is that an abusive situation reduces a victim’s ability to use their cortex effectively. They are kept in panic/emotion/fear state where their thinking skills are undermined, undervalued, and depleted by the abuser. Sleep deprivation, anxiety, depression, isolation, physical and psychological abuse - all reduce a person’s ability to think clearly and rationally. Its a kind of brain damage and can take a long time to heal. Trying to switch it on again in order to escape can add to the feeling that it’s impossible, that you cant survive without them. Reach out for help. Make a safety plan with someone you trust and ask for as much support as you can find to enact it, get safe and protect yourself while you recover. Its so hard but the other side is SO worth it.

  • @bereanathlete723
    @bereanathlete7234 жыл бұрын

    Praise God for Pastor Tim Fletcher and Finding Freedom, Woohoo!

  • @JusSeenIt
    @JusSeenIt3 ай бұрын

    The feeling of guilt, children, and fear that they will fall apart is so real!

  • @paularyan8400
    @paularyan840011 ай бұрын

    This series is tremendous and I have recommended it to many people. However, I am disturbed that sexual abuse is attributed to sex drive. It has nothing to do with sex drive and everything to do with power, control, punishment, shame, domination, and humiliation. That being said, thank you soooo much, Pastor Tim, for giving us this impressive body of work.

  • @politereminder6284

    @politereminder6284

    10 ай бұрын

    I don't think he's attributing sex abuse to sex drive, but to someone using their sex drive as a weapon because their sex drive "Trumps love". You cannot be sexually abusive without a sex drive. You will end up using other abusive tactics if so.

  • @heide-raquelfuss5580

    @heide-raquelfuss5580

    4 ай бұрын

    Sex is allways number 1. The rest is number 2. The sex drive of men is dangerous high and they inflict at the same time horrors on you, to break you. To make you suffer and to make utter vulnerable and to the point of even killing you. It is an explosive combination. And utterly abusive, selfish to the core.

  • @Sunshyne715
    @Sunshyne7153 ай бұрын

    The accuracy of this video is gold. I feel so validated. Thank you.

  • @jeanniecampbell1374
    @jeanniecampbell13744 ай бұрын

    Amazing memory and deep knowledge would have loved to have had a friend like Tim while growing up ..amazing every time I listen too him .phew a lot to take in .

  • @foxiefair123
    @foxiefair1234 ай бұрын

    Well, he found people “better than me” but I didn’t try to control him. I trusted him implicitly until I caught him cheating on me and hiding me. I was with him for 8 years and we were engaged. His entire family pooled their money to pay for me to fly out of state because they wanted to meet me. I had my guard down completely around them because I assumed they would be my family, too. I really liked them and they really liked me, too. Oh, well.😂

  • @davebird534
    @davebird5344 ай бұрын

    After the first time after being separated from my wife understand why she is the way she is NYC is treated me the way she has. The way she is it byproduct of her father leaving her and almost completely abandoning her and and her mother, and brother and sister .. from what I understand he was a very strong an abusive tough guy and womanizer who was very successful in life he had 13 kids all around the world. I could show her this video even though it makes 100% common sense. It would not register to her because she thinks she's perfectly I don't know anybody can ask could see the this doctor is describing her actions and behaviors perfectly in great detail!

  • @petervisen
    @petervisen2 ай бұрын

    Tim Fletcher has revoluonized my own to the better. Now I can serve God with all my capabilites. God Bless...

  • @OliveWeitzel
    @OliveWeitzel3 ай бұрын

    You are so precious, Tim Fletcher!

  • @lindasonntag4098
    @lindasonntag40984 ай бұрын

    This man is a genius

  • @jennmari7425
    @jennmari74252 ай бұрын

    This guy is right on point.

  • @neweller420
    @neweller4203 ай бұрын

    I have been trying to learn about myself INTENSELY for 15 years, this did a fast forward in my inter knowing, thank you so much for this

  • @marthawhite3353
    @marthawhite33533 ай бұрын

    Hearing this makes me feel sick, I know in my head that you are right but I am still shocked that I fell for this abusive person !! I would never allow someone to treat me like this, and yet - he was exactly like your describe. How did that happen? They are so smooth and good at their manipulations, and as you say - the 'remorse,' which sounds so good. The real person is so scary and dangerous, and it is imperative to get away. No growth, no desire to grow and change, nothing !

  • @nilgiridreaming

    @nilgiridreaming

    3 ай бұрын

    Hi Martha, I think you have met my x hubby! 🤣🤣🤣!!!!!

  • @w8what575

    @w8what575

    3 ай бұрын

    One thing though to remember what doesn’t kill us only makes us that much stronger….I can honestly say, the past 15 years have been extremely traumatic because I’ve attracted more abusers but each one has opened up my eyes even more to the reason why I attract these types….I’ve had the latest one who tried to weasel his way in many times and was persistent af but he assumed I was old and desperate lol….when he offered something if i give him something else he wanted kind of tactic and then tried to pay it off like he didn’t mean to insult me as if I’m desperate and willing to lower my standards for something from him lol….I laughed and got quite assertive with his bs rebuttals and flat out told him he’s not gonna succeed in gaslighting me….I know how he was intending to make me feel with what he said and that doesn’t change by his explanation to try covering up the carelessness in what he said and what he intended…I can see the bs immediately…and stand my ground when the persistence starts…I don’t care if I hurt anyone’s feelings anymore because they don’t care if they hurt mine with their bs comments and their idiotic assumptions as if I’m stupid…to try to make me feel like I’m not adequate and then to insult my intelligence is a guarantee that I’ll never “feel sorry” for them again no matter what happens to them…not my monkey not my circus…in his case it’s not my clown and not my circus 😂….I will never let someone make me feel as if I’m not worthy of common respect especially in my own home! I don’t have to take advantage of people and take from others in order to survive…they do….that says ALOT about them ….I may have been naive at one point or another but I learned from My mistakes and will make damned sure it never happens again..

  • @cupcake0480
    @cupcake04803 ай бұрын

    A brilliant and spot on presentation. This was exactly my experience. I was abused. I tried to help him and then he cheated on me - serially as it turns out - and lied to me so much. When I found out what he’d done, he first denied it, and then with totally flat affect and demeanour said, ‘That must be hard for you to see’ and then a smirk. He literally had zero care or could take no responsibility for what he’d done. It was like he was telling me, I’m entitled to do what I want and although I know it’s bad, I truly don’t care. There is not much you can do with that, as you’ve just seen their conscience and their empathy absence. It’s horrific to see that in a human, as it makes them non-human. I had to leave as I knew he was too far gone to ever turn it around and I was in great psychological danger. These people will destroy others and feel total disconnection to their own humanity to make it okay for them. I should have known as early on he felt familiar. My mother is a psychopath. Bingo, I realised that I had been trained to pacify these sort of people. Once I woke up, I saw what was happening. Just because I was resilient and calm doesn’t mean I had any power over his behaviour. Since leaving the situation I realise how bad it was, hindsight really shows the full horror. When you’re in it, you’re so used to putting out fires that they set, metaphorically, that there is no time to really think about how to leave. He went back to a former partner who proceeded to put him on a pedestal on social media and believed his lies. She knew the extent of the cheating as I was able to prove it, but she preferred to defend him and her position with him over doing the right thing, she’s a pastor and her behaviour was even more toxic, I suspect they’re both codependent malignant narcissists. He is still cheating and I don’t think she knows it and there’s no point telling her. He blames his cheating and abuse of women on a sex addiction. He plays the victim card and relies on women to take responsibility for him and feel sorry for him, while he’s smirking and cheating behind their backs. Not sure if he’s a narcissist or a psychopath. Or the mix of both … malignant narcissist.

  • @liciaspencer9955
    @liciaspencer99554 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this video. Perfect timing for me. I really needed to hear this. I recently started a friendship with someone, at first he was a gentleman, charming, everything good, then suddenly everything started to move very fast. His true colors started coming out. I am glad that things ended before things got to far, because your heart is deceitful and who can know it. We run on emotions and I was emotionally attached because we were spending a lot of time together. I realized it was all about his needs and wants. He didn't care about me at all.

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