Andy Goldstein & this talkSPORT caller CLASH after Rich says he doesn't care about the top four!
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Andy's patented suplex line: "No one on the planet, except for you, thinks ..." 😄
"club doesn't reinvest into the club", spends 250 million in the last 2 seasons lmaoooo
@chriscotonou7765
2 жыл бұрын
Shhh you’ll ruin their weird ‘underdog’ narrative they keep trying to convince us of
@bigbowss9817
2 жыл бұрын
Its about how they invest the money, not how much. Look into a lot of those deals, it reeks of corruption with agents & others. The money isnt reinvested *correctly* is what they should have said...
@lucastheworldis1336
2 жыл бұрын
@@chriscotonou7765 That 250m was spent filling in massive gaps throughout the team, a consequence of years of stagnation. It's not exactly like we pulled a City and Chelsea and spent £100m on individual players.
@pjmathison9787
2 жыл бұрын
@@lucastheworldis1336 city have only spent 100 mill on one player
@MBison-vm6gq
2 жыл бұрын
There's always an excuse for you gooners. Shameless
By his logic, Arsenal shouldn't bother playing football at all, as they're not gonna win the Prem.
@omatseyeugen5697
2 жыл бұрын
😆
🤣🤣 arsenal fans are the gift that keeps on giving 😂😂
This caller is the DEFINITION of the meme with guy crying with a smiley face mask on.
I almost understand what Rich is saying but he is still wrong 🤣
He's sort of got a point, but he's wrong. His frustration is that it feels like his club's presence at the top table never translates to success. And success for him is a title, domestic or european. Arsenal's top four status kept the sponsors coming in, kept them on tv and ensured season tickets were bought. Nothing more.
@danielharrison9244
2 жыл бұрын
His angle is wrong. There are clear benefits to being in the top 4: finance, attraction of good players etc. The question he should be asking is what have the Arsenal board done with the benefits of being in UCL
@ItsMikeysMind
2 жыл бұрын
@@danielharrison9244 agreed. A dangerous idea to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Should arsenal be permanently replaced at the top of the table - where realistically does that leave them long term? Temporarily dropping out of European competition has not improved their league performance.
@itkojecockot
2 жыл бұрын
@@ItsMikeysMind we know what it does to ARS long term...... cause we've been there long-term, you dummy :D:D
@ItsMikeysMind
2 жыл бұрын
@@itkojecockot haha. Don't think i've ever been called a dummy before. Cheers. But yeah i see what you're saying. Consistent mediocrity
The way Tottenham are playing atm I can’t see it changing.
@sjsharp2007
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think we'll win our next 3 games a tthe ver yleast and I think we'er starting t ofind ou rfeet now unde rConte. We'er still fa rfrom a perfect side but weare making steps in the right direction ditching Nuno for Conte has turned out to be a stroke of genius Man U missed a trick there waiting too long. For m eArsena lneed t okeep up with us win tha tgame in hand the yhave and beat us in the NLD on May 12 to get 4th. Going t obe a tall order given they've got a tougher run in.
Rich saying he doesn’t care about top 4 but calls in. 🤦🏾♂️
@itkojecockot
2 жыл бұрын
what does calling in have to do with what he cares or doesn't care about ????
Being an Arsenal fan literally sucked the life and ambition out of this man
@MBison-vm6gq
2 жыл бұрын
And them pumped him and the rest of them full of delusion
This video should come under #comedy section. Genuinely funny 😂😂
A genuine Arsenal fan just said that his club did the Double during the 04/05 season… 🤯🤦♂️ “What’s the point of Arsenal?” - Probably the best question ever asked on this or any other station.
@simonbrown3378
2 жыл бұрын
🤔🤔🤣🤣
@itkojecockot
2 жыл бұрын
double of WHAT ?????
Jason winding him up! 🤣🤣🤣
This is the funniest thing I've heard in a long while.
If you're in Champions League you get money for every match you play. Also experience for the young players. The issue is that the club doesn't invest the money back into player purchase. They had to pay for the stadium, I think.
@ay613
2 жыл бұрын
That was his point.
5:35 is this guy a local MP not answering questions 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@sjsharp2007
2 жыл бұрын
For me I'd take winning any trophy at Spurs. We've come close and lost a number of times in recent years but I stil lwant us to keep trying because I wantto se esome silvrewaer being won in our new stadium. I think Conte can deliver it but I think he will need more support from upstairs.
@ihavenoname1769
2 жыл бұрын
@@sjsharp2007 That's the difference in terms of attitude between the two sets of fans Arsenal have a spoilt attitude if they win the fa cup there still not happy but if Spurs end the drought and win something they'll appreciate it more but garenteed they'll get the piss taken out of them for it
@sjsharp2007
2 жыл бұрын
@@ihavenoname1769 Yeah I think w estasnd a good chance at winning something if Conte stays as I think he understands and the playres undrestand him now what is required it's just a case now in how muc hsupport he gets from the likes of Levy and co. Becvause I think once everyones on board we can mov eforward . I don't believ ewe'll win the league nex tseason but I d opbeliev w ecan take one of the cups either the FA cup or Carabao Cup. Bu tfo rme that in itself I would consider progress because for me I think it's just importan tafte rou rrecent gettin gt ofinals and failing t ojust win something and no tworry about wha ttrophy it is tha twe've won w ejust need to shake off this losing streak
Cundy: Riiiiiiccchhhhhh 😂😂😂
😂 went from 10 years to more then 11+ years to 8 years to the FA. Cup doesn’t matter because Wigan won it 😂
Listening live this dude was hilarious and clueless at the same time
Rich is a mug 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@TDM20000
2 жыл бұрын
Whos Chris?
Cundy looks tired, needs a few lines to wake up.
@gambaownsus
2 жыл бұрын
hahah so true.
@djsteves554
2 жыл бұрын
He makes it so obvious that he's always sniffed up lol
Same fan/s were saying Spurs didn't have the bottle to make top 4, two weeks ago! And now that Arsenal have taken a down turn in form... It's: "I'm really not that bothered about making Champions League!"🙄👌 Banter FC Indeed!😂
"shut up Jason" 😂😂
Typical arsenal fan full of it. This is spurs worse season for about 8 years and spurs are still above arsenal. The caller was a winge bag they are only complaining because spurs are above them.
These two are quality lol
I get where he is coming from, top 4 is so over rated, especially if you never do anything in the champs league
we went 9 seasons without any cup until fa cup win in 2014.He wasnt that far off!
Oh dear Richard....What on earth are you going on about ! LOL!!!!!!!!!
Only point in the Caller’s defence; Arsenal winning a couple of domestic cups has nothing to do with UCL qualification- and their history has shown top 4 does not guarantee the club actually improves from within, based as it was towards the end of Wenger’s time. They can be in one year and just as easily out the next; agreed, they aren’t going to contend for the main trophy and would be more likely to secure a Europa league (then again, this would be the same situation if they fell out in the group stages) However… everything besides that point is totally flawed/ rubbish. Basically saying if they’re unlikely to win, why even bother; Liverpool may as well have not turned up in 2005 with that mentality; no point in mid table club’s fans even turning up to league matches, if that’s the case, cause they won’t win the title. No point in any teams besides Liverpool and City, maybe Chelsea, even pushing to win as many league games as possible once they’re beyond relegation. He’s failing to grasp that the experience of the games themselves makes being in the competition worth-while, otherwise why would fans even care if their clubs are relegated from a league they wouldn’t win anyhow. Even the experience of Ajax and Benfica fans this season; they don’t seriously expect to win the trophy, but they’ve had great moments and being beaten doesn’t take away from the experience of competing at the highest level.
Am an arsenal fan and I agree to what the guy said.. If we ain't good enough what the use of CL football
@DirtyJamesUK
2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same as a United fan lol. It's just a chance to embarrass ourselves
This was fckn legendary!
@Pob2278
2 жыл бұрын
I get what he was trying to say! It didn’t help them buy any household names.
Note to rich..never phone up a radio show again 🤪🤪
Last year, tottenham beat leicester to get to the 7th spot and push arsenal down to 8th. Some arsenal fans were shouting just like this, 'it does not matter', 'what is the point'. Arsenal fans are some of the silliest out there.
Bottom line is rich wants to finish above Spurs more than qualifying for the CL.
@russellherbaugh8334
2 жыл бұрын
Can you blame him 😜
@paulnova7536
2 жыл бұрын
@@russellherbaugh8334 Its a unhealthy obsession.
i actually sort of understand the point he was trying to make and i think jason and andy were being a pair of nobs but still very amusing 😂😂😂
What a pleb. There’s 7 games to go and plenty to play for. He’s proper lost it 😆
@ihavenoname1769
2 жыл бұрын
Arsenal fans are a stand out from everything else strange bunch 😂
“😑😑😑.... of course I’d be bothered...😑😑😑”
The benefit is the money. How the club choose to use the money is up to them. CL football helped pay off the Emirates. Other clubs can use it for transfers. The benefit is also playing along side the best in Europe. If you want to aim for the top, you have to compete with them. Winning it is the dream, but without competing in it regularly, your club and your players will lose the pedigree to deliver. The benefit is signing players from other teams in the PL. Some teams have great players like Zaha, Neves, Lamptey etc. These players would be much more inclined to leave their respective clubs for CL football. In terms of signing from other leagues, it doesn't make much of a difference because the PL has the money and the status that players are after.
Rich is kinda right 🤣
Omg what a guy 🤣What. A. Mug
Caller does have a point tho
@efiongephraim8111
2 жыл бұрын
No he doesn’t.
If football's now solely all about money and the ever increasingly closed competition of the Champions League, then football really isn't for me any more. This guy has his heart right but his facts wrong. He knows there's something missing in the soul and spirit of the game that he can't quite grasp and articulate. I like him.
if you don't care about top 4 then you don't care about success, because top 4 is the first step to success
@Genevasplaytime
2 жыл бұрын
Not if you are arsenal or man utd. You will never move forward
@truthnumb972
2 жыл бұрын
@@Genevasplaytime History fc, arsenal and man utd fans think its thier right to be up the table, This isn't the 2000's or 90s footballs moved on, both these clubs are shite.
I think the caller is a secret Spurs fan 😂
Confused
Caller is correct. Won the fa cup in 05 and then next trophies was 14. So 9 years.
Without sounding arrogant Manchester united is the only club who has the finances and player pull to be able to deal with a season out of the CL whereas it is fundemental to arsenal and spurs progression, ultimately Manchester united aren't immune to a CL hiatus but can cope for one season without and still progress
@whydouwanttoknow1945
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure both spurs an arsenal missed out on the champions league last season an managed to survive an right now both look like there finishing above utd which means they made progress.
@grassrootsfootball225
2 жыл бұрын
@@whydouwanttoknow1945 have arsenal made progress tho, i mean real progress mate.. they are on to concede more goals than last season and are still as toothless as ever up top all the while having an advantage this season with less games and more recovery time.. spurs ended up appointing Nuno who it has been well documented was not there first choice or even 2nd or 3rd but perhaps as a consequence of missing out on CL they settled for him, he is a good coach but it was never going to work with the fans instantly underwhelmed, they now have their man but had they been able to offer him CL from the start maybe conte would have came in in the summer, they now have to meet his demands and he has made it apparent that if the players he wants aren't recruited in the window he will walk away, spurs having CL football will be able to provide him with the elite players he wants to fit his system which could well challenge in a few seasons if they keep him, the key to keeping conte and Kane and bringing in new targets of real quality all depends on spurs ability to consolidate CL football not just acheive it for one season.. Manchester united need CL football to be able to compete at the the top, you must consolidate CL football if you have aspirations of challenging that is why it is important for mufc not to fall out of it for too long if they have aspirations of eventually challenging city n Liverpool but right now it is much more fundamental to spurs and arsenal giving each clubs circumstances.. and tbh it is even more necessary for arsenal than spurs as conte is undeniably a world class coach who in the event of finishing say 5th, could still find real quality in the summer to work with and have spurs much closer to the top than they are now but Mikel arteta will almost certainly fall further behind without it to offer in this upcoming window
@grassrootsfootball225
2 жыл бұрын
@@Franatomy except you did 😂😂 cheers mate
@grassrootsfootball225
2 жыл бұрын
@@Franatomy should have known the capacity on KZread is that of teenagers.. did i use too many words mate hahaha moron
What a fool 😂
Goldstein is a nightmare. please please talksport, if you're reading, get him out of here. he's an embarrassment. just get rid of him entirely.
Next week this guy will say he wants Arsenal to get relegated because he doesn’t want to be in the premier league if they can’t win it
Dohertys injury gives arsenal a chance not because he’s so good but Becauee Emerson is so bad
@James-zy8nh
2 жыл бұрын
I agree reggy is good going forward but defensively I get nervous 😬
Ah the top 4 myth is being pedalled AGAIN! Rich is absolutely right. What "attractive players" did Arsenal get in the years they finished in the Champions League? Andy can't answer it. In fact Arsenal lost more world class players than they gained during that time. Arsenal need to develop a winning mentality. A trophy winning mentality. Being in the Champions League does NOTHING for Arsenal. If they got into the Europa League and won that, imagine what that could do for the younger players at Arsenal? It did wonders for Atletico. It helped progress Chelsea. It's clearly benefitted Villareal; Arsenal, Spurs and Manchester United should be aiming to be in the Europa League next season and win it. Being in the Champions League does not mean you attract better players. Being in the Premier League does that. The financial benefit is absolutely immaterial to these billion dollar behemoths.
@foggyreality5081
2 жыл бұрын
To kick on after getting top four they need top coach like Klopp, even if they finish top four they will probably be knocked out before new year.
@Ajs_1988
2 жыл бұрын
Arsenal, spurs and united? Someone's got to finish in that 4th spot
@benjoseph4252
2 жыл бұрын
Arsenal would have lost more of their better players, more frequently, had they not had Champions League football all those years, either from players wanting out or the club actively selling them to balance costs on the stadium. The draw of the Champions League will allow Arsenal to attract players (and potentially a manager) who already have that winning mentality. Dismiss it all you want, but players and managers value having a crack at that competition very highly. How do you develop a winning mentality with a young squad who haven't won anything? Just put all your eggs in less valued competitions rather than challenge at the highest level? Are you listening to yourself?
@Matthew-bu7fg
2 жыл бұрын
@@benjoseph4252 not true. The world class players had that moved on from Arsenal were: Vieira (moved as soon as the Italian teams came knocking), Henry (wanted to go to Barcelona to WIN the Champions League), Fabregas (again, moved as soon as Barcelona came running) and Van Persie (as soon as he was injury free, he bolted). You could make an argument for Alex Song being one iof the best in the world in his position at the time before, again, bolting to Barcelona as quick as he could. So youre simply not correct when it comes to that. I could also make the point that players like Nasri, Sagna, Adebayor Clichy etc were far more interested in joining a Manchester City team that I dont believe was in Europe at the time (certainly not consistently) than they were staying at Arsenal. Part One Debunked. Part two, the Champions League is not a "draw". Come off it. The last world class player Arsenal signed, Aubameyang, did not join due to Champions League football. Look at players signed by Premier League clubs... Firpo, Coutinho, Daka, James, Guimares, Kulusevski etc were they attracted by the lure of Europe? No. They were attracted by the riches of the Premier League. The players that sign for Arsenal this summer will be signed regardless of whether they finish 4th or 5th. Arsenal need to develop a winning menatality and the Europa League can facilitate that. Follow the Atletico Madrid 2011-12 blueprint or the trail set by Villareal last season
@Matthew-bu7fg
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ajs_1988 quite right. I think the team that would benefit from it are West Ham because unlike the other 3, you don't expect them to be able to develop into a giant European side so for them it'd be more like a holiday. Sadly they cant string two wins together atm. They should just get rid of the 4th spot going to the Champions League for English clubs. The only English sides that can win it are Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea.
From a Spurs fan pov I feel bad for Rich, the man is confused.
He wanted it a week ago. 😆
There's 5 minutes of our life's gone. This is the bedt clip from the whole show?
At least he hasn't gotta be worried about Arsenal finishing top 4 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Top 4 is only worthwhile if you invest the money. There’s no guarantee the owners will do that.
@chriscotonou7765
2 жыл бұрын
250 mil in 2 years. Arsenal are not underdogs. They’re just badly managed
@mat_willment
2 жыл бұрын
@@chriscotonou7765 For years Arsenal sold their big stars to rivals and like the caller said they didn’t win much. They did outspend last summer but that was only to appease the fans. I’m not sure they’d go big again.
@truthnumb972
2 жыл бұрын
@@mat_willment arsenal hoodwinked thier fans, arteta been there 2 seasons plus resources no excuses. All this building is bullcrap.
Rich is not coping with Spurs being above the Gunners. Spurs are bottlers , but Antonio Conte I feel is a different gravy.
🤦♂️ 😂😂😂
He has a point. Champions league football ⚽️ is amazing but it's not good to get knocked out in the first round. it's better to go to the europa League and win it or the conference league.
@wreckit8591
2 жыл бұрын
That’s a loser mentality
Still no football TV work
Is this Ty’s brother?
That Liverpool team that won the CL with Gerrard finished 5th in the league because they were in the competition. You can't win it if your not in it
You couldn't write it . . . .
I called this clown Rich out for a bet a few moments before, but just like his team, his bottle went.
@itkojecockot
2 жыл бұрын
yes Ronaldo....... YOUR club is going to finish even lower, so STFU :D:D
Rich finishing above Spurs is your only goal , the benefits of being in CL is huge , it wasnt lost before all the cl you entered , fool .
I just can’t see any premier League team catching up to Liverpool or city in the next 5 to 6 years Chelsea are the closest team well they was we will have to see what happens but even they have struggled to keep up with Liverpool and city
@karabomafa5609
2 жыл бұрын
Guardiola and Klopp will be leaving within the next 2-3 season.. Then it's a free for all once again.. Remember when Sir Alex left United. Look at what happened to Barcelona and Juventus..nothing is forever
imagine finishing 2nd and not even challenging
Call up the radio to just go and embarrass yourself!!!! Plonker 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Think the callers right, of course you want ya team to finish as high as possible but the geezer ain’t bothered to much cos he knows there out of the group stage . Goldstein being pig headed over 10 years, so 8 years is not long to wait as long as there’s an fa cup and the end of it and no champions league.
I think he just doesnt want to see anothet bayern or barca game where they get smashed
Never heard a more clueless fan 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Andy Goldsteins arrogant expressions are horrible. As soon as the caller speaks hes looking with a frown like they are an idiot before he knows what they even think.
Hes got a certain point there, we've all been told CL football is the make all or break all, we get more money better players blah blah blah...but some teams will only be there to make a few pounds more, not to win it. Some teams will never win the PL or the CL but they will be in the competition JUST for the millions, just for the prestige. CL will be a hindrance next season for whoever gets 4th place, simply because they haven't got the squad quality or depth.
It’s like saying there’s no benefit to a non-league club qualifying for the FA Cup because they can’t win it.
If I was in Andys position I'd of turned this Nasty, ignorant arsenal fan. He's unnecessarily belligerent.
@tomburke198
2 жыл бұрын
You’d of taking up the rear and sat in silence.
He's preparing himself for the fact that Arsenal might not make it now..
😂😂
Oh god help us!
But he is right about it. Teams fighting for top 4 think it's a trophy but it's not. And what about teams that actually win their league but have to qualify because it's called a weak league. Yes he is right it shouldn't be called champions league
It's no point for Arsenal because they will never win the Champions League so he has a point in terms of competition. But in terms of money he's completely wrong.
Trust me he ISN'T the only Arsenal fan that thinks there is no benefit in finishing in the top 4. If you know you know.
Didn’t arsenal spend like 100 plus this season
@scottevans5689
2 жыл бұрын
Biggest spenders this year £130 million I think
😆In the words of Sam Wilson. He's outta line but he's right.
To be fair arsenal have always been totally crap in the champions league.
@Genevasplaytime
2 жыл бұрын
Cant even win europa. Rich has a point
He doesn't want to be in a competition hes no chance of winning????..... so he wants to get relegated aswel then haha
@itkojecockot
2 жыл бұрын
no, his point is, that if we play UCL that will take away a lot of strength from us in Premier League...... and we definitely have bigger chance to challenge the 1st spot in PL, than in UCL...... in order to win UCL, we would have to have the same quality as City or Liverpool...... so what's the point....... we don't need money from UCL...... we have enough money to buy anyone...... the problem is, that top players won't sign for Arsenal...... why would they if they can go to City, Bayern or Real Madrid
Wind ups lol
That was brilliant hahaha like talking to the in-laws....good work gents
The truth is arsenal don't have a problem attracting big players because not just history but because of where we are based it's just facts but we do lack is right now and it's just like utd it's the idea of where we are going within the next five years any tip top player wants to see not only what we could compete for but where we want to go nothing is more attractive to a top player than having a idea a future plan of what the objective is with no plan is no promise a plan is everything because its an idea and a long term task no big player joins anyone without tasks
Believe the kids would call this copium from the Arsenal fan
This negative energy will directly convey to the squad.. please be positive. Arsenal won FA cup just 2 years ago.. what is this groundless crticism..
Second in a two horse race is nonsense. That season Arsenal were top at Xmas.
How did they figured out rich supports Brentford 🤔🤔🤔🤔
And this is supposed to pass as entertainment ?
Arsenal not investing?
Guys talking nonsense. Completely overlooking the fact that the young players need to get experience in the Champions League
Rich for AFTV!
Why is it that I know more about Arsenals recent history than this guy 😂
@Ajs_1988
2 жыл бұрын
Because he's a Brentford fan. Or at least I thought he was ...
LOL that arsenal fan does actually need to be taken by the white coats
Nurse nurse , it’s time for Rich’s medication ‼️