If only there was such journalistic enthusiasm for investigating the ONGOING scandal of rape gangs in the north of the country

@robertingle9845

10 ай бұрын

And Telford, Oxford, etc anywhere where a certain peaceful demographic lives in sufficient numbers.

@hmq9052

10 ай бұрын

There are hundreds of convictions for those men

@samuellowekey9271

10 ай бұрын

@@hmq9052 But thousands of offenders, and tens of thousands of victims.

@anthonyclark6388

10 ай бұрын

​@@hmq9052with that argument the msm shouldn't be wasting their time persecuting Brand as there are 1000's of people with convictions for sexual offences

@hmq9052

10 ай бұрын

@@anthonyclark6388 It's a case for more investigations

Andrew Neil totally clueless as to why we now despise the mainstream media!

@OverlordKaine1989

10 ай бұрын

I think he is well aware of you conspiracy cultists and your tin foil hats

@colincampbell4261

10 ай бұрын

You mean you.

@perseus431

10 ай бұрын

@@colincampbell4261 Its definitly we.

@GreatSageSunWukong

10 ай бұрын

He spoke perfect sense, whats funny is people like you thinking Brand and the like are not mainstream media, he's literally a millionaire who has worked for the BBC, Channel 4 and so on he couldn't be more mainstream. but when you say the words "mainstream media" what you really mean is media that gives an alternative view to what you believe. it really has nothing to do with being mainstream or not. you want to believe certain things so you flock to those who echo your beliefs and not only that but add bells and whistles, you despise anyone who goes against it, that's the opposite of being informed.

@robinmorritt7493

10 ай бұрын

@@GreatSageSunWukong"He spoke perfect sense". Well, you've definitely earned 0/10 for critical thinking skills. It reminds me of the days we referred to the television as the idiot box.

Andrew Neil is describing Jordan Peterson as a conspiracy theorist? Really?

@elkpaz560

10 ай бұрын

The South of France set.

@OsellaSquadraCorse

10 ай бұрын

@@elkpaz560 Prosecco socialists! Because they're not even classy enough to drink real champagne....

@tk80mufa5

10 ай бұрын

@TheMOV13 Andrew Neil was an early pro-Iraq war advocate. Says it all really. Likely getting paid by the domestic propaganda department of the Intel-Military services. He seems to have DEEP DEEP connections...

@tigading2177

10 ай бұрын

LOL Neil is a highly paid propagandist, that's all he is.

@Eidelmania

10 ай бұрын

Jordan Peterson first became famous for misinterpreting a Canadian law about pronouns, and wrongly insisting that misgendering someone would be punishable by jail time.... then there was that time he tweeted a porn video and claimed that it was proof that China was forcing breeding people, or something. When he's not crying for his dead grandmother vagina, he is promoting conspiracy theories.

Defending the principle of innocent until proven guilty is hardly ludicrous

@GreatSageSunWukong

10 ай бұрын

You are not in a court of law, it has no baring outside of that.

@casualviewing1096

10 ай бұрын

He is free and walking about, if he was found guilty then he would be locked up. You don’t go through your life only forming opinions of things and people after they have been in court. You judge people constantly without court cases. If I decide someone in a commence section is a bit of a cockwomble, I don’t require a court case to form that opinion. I just look at what they have written, and make my judgments. You do as well, so don’t act like you’re above it just because Brand happens to be your favourite sexual abuser.

@paladro

10 ай бұрын

court of public opinion is a very different thing, brand is a grifter who through is own actions has found himself be defended by the dregs of modern social media... apparently scoundrels and rapists find solace in each others company. whoever bankrolls rumble is the right wing force behind the support for brand, its pretty plain.

@RiddelV

10 ай бұрын

And how do you know he's guilty?@@casualviewing1096

@RiddelV

10 ай бұрын

Thinking someone is a "cockwomble" is completely different from accusing someone of something when you don't know @@casualviewing1096

If Andrew could be more condescending, I'd be amazed. I ask again, if ANY journalist had sent even half the time researching & investigating Ghislaine Maxwell & her folks Jeffrey, or those grooming teenagers in Rotherham etc, I'd give them some credit, but they don't. Shame on them!!!

@justinbarker871

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, you summed it up. Dismissing anyone who thinks there's a concerted effort to bring down Russell Brand as a crank. Believe what we tell you, not what you see. What a pompous clown.

@alexmirza5210

10 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong in being condescending or stating the obvious.

@theralphster8492

10 ай бұрын

Exactly, the msm choose what crusades their masters tell them to go on, Mr Neil has his nose in the msm trough and still thinks they have credibility in the public eye.

@jujutrini8412

10 ай бұрын

The same newspaper, The Times, broke the story of child grooming gangs in 2011. Long before Tommy Robinson. Andrew Norfolk was the journalist.

@curiositycloset2359

10 ай бұрын

​@@alexmirza5210there is if you're lying by leaving things out.

Andrew Neil ignores the fact that the documentary went out of its way to 'dramatise' the coverage by having actresses play parts.. and ignored other women who had said Brand acted well in relationship with him. It's a 'hit job'. Ignored the story for two decades

@hittitecharioteer

10 ай бұрын

Imagine if they'd done that with Pamela Bordes?

@philipwebb8297

10 ай бұрын

Russell Brand Legacy Media Witch-Hunt Cry “Havoc” And let slip the dogs of war! Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene 1. The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches published a “joint investigation” accusing Russell Brand of rape, sexual-assault. (What about flagellation, necrophilia and bestiality too? But I guess they’d be flogging a dead horse there!) So, Russell Brand is the latest target of a: “Cancel-Kulture Purge!” And there is a seemingly endless list of victims: Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Jordon Peterson, Nigel Farage, Tommy Robinson, Terry Gilliam, Julian Assange! Anyone who dares question the Globalist Marxist New World Order! My wife now has Alzheimer’s! It kicked in very soon after she’d had her 2nd Covid-19 jab in April 2021! And Alzheimer's cannot be cured! One day she’ll die from it! Many people are becoming Ill and many are dying because of that damn awful Covid-19 vaccination and that big Covid-19 con, that Russell Brand (and others) are exposing! And it’s not just Alzheimer's but other bad things as well! Lots of bad things! Blood-clots, stroke, cancer, heart-disease, ME! And all that stupid sex stuff is a smoke screen! A blind alley! Ying and Yang? The male response to the female shape is the human race’s life insurance policy. Those damn females’ who are dishing out the dirt are typical woke apparatchiks. Puppets who I wouldn’t trust as far as I could throw them! And now people have to prove that they are innocent. And by the time they do that it’s years and years later and all the damage has been done! Damn the awful legacy media! Damn the awful journalist/s! May they rot in the lowest levels of hell! My poor little wife! Keep up the good work Russell! And now KZread have stuck their dagger into his back! Demonetarized him! Its all so obvious just what they are doing! Elon Musk pull your finger out and buy up KZread too. Maybe you will when Twitter’s profit clears a trillion bucks? I like to write to people like the all-powerful establishment. I NEVER get a reply because, well, I’m too far beneath their pay-grade. But this letter is just to let you know that I at least am not been taken in by their machinations! And besides, I actually like writing letters and don’t mind forking out for a postage stamp or two! PS: My wife has just come up and asked me who I am and where is Philip? Sod them all!

@evolassunglasses4673

10 ай бұрын

When he was Woke and degenerate the system/ media loved him.

@ljo642

10 ай бұрын

They're called ''crisis actors'' and we saw plenty of those during the convid pantomime.

@elingrome5853

10 ай бұрын

"hundreds of women interviewed" - 3 of whom made accusations, presumably paid, none of whom were willing to identify themselves... one of whom works for C4... its not a strong case tbh

YOU wrote an article entitled 'It's time to punish Britain's five million vaccine refuseniks' So respectfully Brillo. Shine off.

@cosmos237

10 ай бұрын

Wasn't it 20m?

@valkimura1053

10 ай бұрын

Lol. Especially since he's been proven wrong on the vaccine's attributes. What a joke this man is.

@matthewstone1362

10 ай бұрын

The blinkers are strong in this one.

@doodlebrighton124

10 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Any credibility AN may have had evaporated the moment he voiced his revolting opinions on 'punishing the unvaccinated.' Can't stand the man.

@galaxytrio

10 ай бұрын

Wow. That's Pierce-Morgan-level ignorance and authoritarianism, and similar to what Mr. Neil is demonstrating about the Brand affair. I wasn't aware he had written that article. Now that I am, I regard his departure from GB News quite differently.

Anyone who disagrees with Neil is a conspiracy theorist, apparently. That sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.

@annsu77

10 ай бұрын

Ha, you got him. He acts very paranoid in my opinion. Anyone who dares to disagree with his views is immediately condemned by him.

@roughhabit9085

9 ай бұрын

Underlying his arguments against the market place of ideas is an argument against freedom itself.

Looking forward to hearing from Andrew Neil but after all these years appreciating his work he really came across as just bitter and out of touch. I always disliked Brand etc but Andrew is missing the point here and on so many other issues. Such a shame.

@Sokrabiades

10 ай бұрын

Well said. You can look at him and see he's out of it.

@humanoverde2810

10 ай бұрын

my thoughts exactly!

@olddouchebag

10 ай бұрын

What point is he missing?

@serarthurdayne9490

10 ай бұрын

Exactly. He’s totally blind on this. Utterly out of touch.

@amandamcgovern5744

10 ай бұрын

💯 Soo out of touch

Andrew has never been the same since the GB News debacle - for which a lot of people lost respect for him. What an awful 'interview' this is. Axe to grind?

@hittitecharioteer

10 ай бұрын

Axe to grind. Remember Pamela Bordes.

@paulies5407

10 ай бұрын

Guys a coward that ran away from GBnews over a few technical issues at launch

@CyrilSneer123

10 ай бұрын

@@paulies5407 It's better without him

@olddouchebag

10 ай бұрын

@@paulies5407 No. He is a respectable journalist and ran away from something he saw becoming a right wing moron magnet.

@edwardburroughs1489

10 ай бұрын

But he saw incorrectly and even if his vision was correct he then gave the most shameful performance on QT Ive ever seen over the issue.@@olddouchebag

Imagine thinking that innocent until proven guilty is 'ludicrous'.

@Nyahuma-tv1cl

10 ай бұрын

It is absolutely ludicrous to keep shouting "innocent until proven guilty" at reporters as if you don't understand the difference between a news story and a court.

@getfreemazes

10 ай бұрын

​@@Nyahuma-tv1cl what's a "news"? how much does it weigh?

@oliverc1961

10 ай бұрын

Imagine thinking that's an accurate way of summarising Andrew Neil's argument.

@user-zc4yd9ss7h

10 ай бұрын

Who used that word?

@Nyahuma-tv1cl

10 ай бұрын

@@getfreemazes Why do you have random quote marks in sentences?

This is more like a hit peace than actual journalism. Neil talks about Brand being innocent till proven guilty but then talks as if he has already been proven guilty. Neil and people like him will never get why most people don't trust the mainstream media!

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

He’s spent 40 years or so diligently telling people what to think and he’s butt-hurt that some people are still able to think for themselves

@oliverc1961

10 ай бұрын

Hit piece. The fact that you get that wrong shows your lack of attention to detail. It's unsurprising therefore that you misunderstand and misreport what Andrew Neil said.

@chrisohanlon69

10 ай бұрын

Dreadful defence by Neill. He's not our guy, he will not be saved. Line him up against the wall with the rest of them.

@bluebellbeatnik4945

10 ай бұрын

well he is guilty

@Will46666

10 ай бұрын

@@oliverc1961It’s a hit piece all right.

Andrew Neil was so wrong on the whole covid thing I now can't take anything he says seriously

@kingfisherphil

10 ай бұрын

Agreed, a has been.

@zenden6564

10 ай бұрын

Old fart keeping his job following orders...

@iddicco

10 ай бұрын

Yes, but he also seems these days to have just enjoyed a good meal.

@BeesWaxMinder

10 ай бұрын

I missed that...what did he say?

@nickrandal6010

10 ай бұрын

He's just labelled us all as conspiracy theorists, for daring to challenge the narrative.

This is astonishing, every mainstream source reads from the same script. They all condemn Brand as a scumbag, they all call him a "wellness guru" like hes a peddler of snakeoil, and every single one has compared him to Jimmy Saville. Brand is a recovering addict. Hes been perfectly open about his past, as if he had any choice because his drug taking and womanising was all over the news at the time. I think hed be the first to say he regrets the person he was. Hes not turned into a wellness guru either. Hes a socal, cultural, and political commentator. Hes counter to their narative and its his content that has made him a target. The alligations leveled at him dont surprise me, given his past, but even if hes guilty comparisons to Jimmy Saville are absurd. The consistency of the message from mainstream voices with the overblown comparisons to devils of the past just smacks of a hitjob. Also, to say that the BBC and Channel 4 have taken themselves down over this and therefore it isnt a hitjob is laughable. The BBC suffered 0 losses as a reult of the revelations around Jimmy Saville. They're still there, with the biggest channels of the TV, people stationed all over the world, with mandated funding by the taxpayer. If revelations like that cant hurt them thay have nothing to fear publishing these revelations about Brand. On the other hand Brand could lose everything. You want to talk about power inbalance thats a whopper right there.

@m.p.7075

10 ай бұрын

You are so right. I heard someone talk about the issue this morning and they spent 60% of the time talking about Jimmy Saville. It's disgusting that the BBC will fall back on comparisons to Saville after doing nothing to stop him for 40 years and in the same week they are releasing their dramatisation of his life's work to make a few pennies.

@canopus101

10 ай бұрын

Brand does seem similar to Saville, very creepy. I am not judging him, a court will do that.

@tbayley6

10 ай бұрын

@@canopus101 well played!

@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304

10 ай бұрын

Brand is just another 'Truth' grifter. Thats why his loudest fans are conspiracy theory cranks

@law1327

10 ай бұрын

​@@canopus101 There is NO comparison. Saville abused a minimum of 75 people over the course of his career, many if not most of them CHILDREN. Brand's dalliances were consensual with women over the age of consent. And now the captured press has conducted HUNDREDS of interviews in a fishing expedition to ferret out a tiny number of questionable allegations of coerced/non-consensual events. NONE of these were ever presented to law enforcement for investigation or charges. This is retrospective re-contextualizing of likely drug and or drink influenced liaisons. It's bunk.

The defenders are not saying he's innocent. Theyre saying he's not yet guilty in response to those acting as if he is already guilty.

@froggiewrench1

10 ай бұрын

Yes, it's all becoming a gigantic cash generating witch hunt, hasn't it?

Bizarre how Neil, I think quite correctly, cites the reasons for the anger and malaise today in 2023 being rooted in 2008 but then rather than attack the causes and beneficiaries - the cosy self-serving constituency of which he is resolutely a member - he chooses to make his comfortable living attacking the victims and the people who stand up for them.

@ActionmediaUK

10 ай бұрын

Totally agree

@galaxytrio

10 ай бұрын

Quite.

Andrew Neil: "Of course due process must take place and that Brand is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court" Also Andrew Neil: "This was proper investigative journalism and Brand is guilty"

@MrTeaTwoSugars

10 ай бұрын

Andrew Neil isn't the courts

@curiositycloset2359

10 ай бұрын

​@@MrTeaTwoSugarsnor is the court of public opinion. But the media is certainly having a go at being it.

@Rhubba

10 ай бұрын

@synergyspeaks8479 I think it's likely Brand is guilty of most of what he's accused of but I can't be certain. The police have the training and procedures to investigate rape cases that we, and the media, don't have. I'll wait for their investigation.

@stephenglasse9756

10 ай бұрын

​@@Rhubbawhy's it "likely"? What makes it "likely"? Women were throwing themselves at him so what makes rape "likely"?

@SecretBeachHunter

10 ай бұрын

What chance of due process and justice can there be now. Wherever the truth lays, he can no longer get a fair trial and if he is, or was proven innocent, they have finished him, which I believe was the aim. Its all to convenient and I don't care what Neil says about conspiracy theories. He was pretty damn quick to put out that old media and establishment trope. There is no smoke without fire, but what chance do we have of finding out the real arsonist.

To be clear. I don't think anyone is actually defending Brand. But people are pointing out a statistically unlikely correlation between men who oppose left wing authoritarianism and men who then get accused of sexual misconduct.

@travoltasbiplane1551

10 ай бұрын

Or they're just grifting cunts in all areas of their lives. Pandering to morons. But you know... believe what you like I guess.

@siriusfun

10 ай бұрын

Not sure that's accurate. You can certainly draw a correlation, but it doesn't make it so. Weinstein, Spacey and a host of other decidedly left wing characters were brought down, as well. Could it be that bad behaviour transcends party lines?

@robertingle9845

10 ай бұрын

Spacey was found NOT guilty, so what "bad" behaviour did he do?@@siriusfun

@pauldavies4522

10 ай бұрын

@@siriusfun yes. I agree that bad behaviour certainly does come from people regardless of politics. From what I've seen from the people who may be said to "defend" Brand (who I can't stand btw) is that the timing is often what causes questions. Brett Kavenah is one example. I can entirely believe Brand may be guilty, but I can also believe that the choice of timing by the media may (as I think some commentators are saying) be connected to Brand's changing political stance.

@curiositycloset2359

10 ай бұрын

​@@siriusfunspacey was found innocent though. Case in point.

democracy is not losing ground just because people vote the way you don't like and their voices are heard,,, that is actually how democracy works!!

@killerlamas3532

10 ай бұрын

fascist far right leaders pose a direct threat to democracy and are gaining prominence under current democracies

@ChrisAlbertH47

10 ай бұрын

Democracy works best among an educated and informed populace.

@MartinHiggins1972

10 ай бұрын

So nowhere's ever had it. Might as well scrap it.

@lardyguts2

10 ай бұрын

@@ChrisAlbertH47 and dictators love to decide 'who is educated'

@ChrisAlbertH47

10 ай бұрын

@@lardyguts2 Possibly, in a dictatorship. But that's not what this is.

Andrew is definitely struggling on this one. It appears the text message narrative from the documentary is already starting to fall apart. This is a hatchet job, with all media entities acting in consort. I'd be amazed if this gets to court, let alone a successful prosecution, but justice has already been served by Murdoch and his minions.

@bluebellbeatnik4945

10 ай бұрын

no it's not a hatchet job. the man is a r4pist. the fact that you are not even thinking about his victims but somehow making that narcissist out to be the victim says everything about our misogynistc society.

@James_36

10 ай бұрын

@@bluebellbeatnik4945 did you type that out with a straight face?

@coolexio

10 ай бұрын

Falling apart according to whom?

@bluebellbeatnik4945

10 ай бұрын

@@James_36 Yes, I dislike misogyny. I'm not a bloke.

''Juries aren't stupid'', says Andrew Neil, but he started off this 'interview' (friendly chat) by saying that it's 'depressing' that so many people who object to 'trials by the media', are 'stupid'. Somehow, this representative sample of the population which will obviously include these 'stupid' people, suddenly acquires the wisdom (of Neil himself, natch) in order to arrive at the truth. In a nutshell, Neil has identified with the Times' investigation of Brand because he used to edit the newspaper; people like Neil are the gatekeepers, they know best; the proles are too stupid-until they're called for jury service, that is. That's exactly the arrogance, the Clintonesque dismissal of the 'deplorables' that causes people to loath the MSM and its journalists. Here's the exception-from Australia. kzread.info/dash/bejne/p5-qu6NpaZeZgJM.html

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

“We don’t tell people the news! We tell people what to think!”

@tk80mufa5

10 ай бұрын

Don't forget Neil was also pro Iraq war early on !!!

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

Just watched. Bolt’s face when his guest mentions Epstein was a picture!

@softcolly8753

10 ай бұрын

Half of the Jury are likely to be below average intelligence. Having done Jury duty I would be terrified of being accused of something falsely. Despite being told to base the result on the evidence, a few members didn't grasp that concept. They seemed to think it was some TV drama and were trying to guess the plot twist.

@hezkyden

10 ай бұрын

@@softcolly8753 Scary stuff. So, OJ Simpson would get away with murder in the UK as he did in his home country.

Sam Leith’s article on Brand in The Spectator is vindictive and gratuitously hostile. Appalling and very disappointing. I’m one of the ‘stupid’ people who believes Brand’s deconstruction of the corporate narrative on so many issues is pretty convincing. If these historic sexual assaults are proven we can talk about it then. This ´pile on’ is like a mob. Where’s the balance and rationality I expect from ‘The Spectator’?

@tomk8729

10 ай бұрын

Would you have defended the creep Saville too or just the creep Brand?

@simoom58

10 ай бұрын

@@tomk8729 So you know Brand is guilty do you? Or you just don't like him?

@Markielee72

10 ай бұрын

​@tomk8729 Brand is innocent until proven guilty. Saville has been proven guilty, that's the difference.

@chelseapoet3664

10 ай бұрын

@marklee2952 another difference is Saville was protected all his life, probably because of his links to royalty. Brand may be powerful but he evidently doesn't have that level of protection.

@oliverc1961

10 ай бұрын

People are allowed not to like Brand, Trump, Savile, Epstein, Weinstein and other people they regard as vulgar, sexist creeps. Beyond this, news reporters and opinion columnists report and comment on things that are of legitimate interest to the public and of course the public has a legitimate interest in whether the BBC and other employers do little or nothing to stop the "talent" acting badly. The MSM have put the facts available to them into the public domain, where ordinary people can decide for themselves just as a jury is a mixed group of ordinary people who can decide for themselves. I haven't read or heard any journalist saying the police shouldn't investigate.

Always wondered what the media’s been doing for the last four years or so. Now we know! 😂

Investigative journalism don’t make me laugh, let’s call it what it is it’s a hit job 😂

@olddouchebag

10 ай бұрын

You clearly didn't listen to what he said. You are proving him correct.

@scottishbhoy1987

10 ай бұрын

And you clearly haven’t been paying attention at all 🤷🏼‍♂️

@olddouchebag

10 ай бұрын

@@scottishbhoy1987 If by paying attention you mean latching onto easily disprovable conpiracy videos, then no, I haven't been paying attention.

@scottishbhoy1987

10 ай бұрын

@@olddouchebag which conspiracy theories are you referring too? Biden sons lap top? The Biden family’s business dealings in Ukraine? The sacking of the Ukraine’s prosecutor that’s was investigating Biden’s business dealings into the company Barisma?

@Cruzeoc101

10 ай бұрын

​@@olddouchebagwhich conspiracy videos are them?

Wasn’t he one of those condemning anyone who didn’t get the shot

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

Russell Brand? Or Andrew Neil?

@raevj

10 ай бұрын

@@andylewis7360probably Neil

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

@@raevj Sorry. Brain fart 😂

@donnaowen3111

10 ай бұрын

@@andylewis7360 Andrew Neil

@sen7706

10 ай бұрын

Yes he was

If he innocent until proven guilty how is it right for his You Tube channel to be de- monetized.

Has anyone forced Andrew Neil to have his 15th booster so he can go in to Burger King. It’s what he would want.

The estimable Mr Neil misses the point. To him the MSM are a force for good, tell the facts and should be valued accordingly. It’s his career so that’s understandable. For many, including myself, the MSM lies it’s backside off and vilifies those it disagrees with. After Brexit and Covid who could reasonably say otherwise. So if the MSM says Brand did something, my first thought is it’s probably rubbish. That’s the MSMs problem not mine. It may very well be Brand is everything he is being described as just now, so I will wait for the legal case before I pass judgement. But no one should should be surprised if the MSM lack credibility. All their own work.

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

Quite right. “Yes, we’ve been lying to you and manipulating you for years but why won’t you believe us now?!?”

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

@@robtye3333 I believe millennia are measured in years. Is that not so? Also, I haven’t been alive since the time of Plato so the media couldn’t have been lying to me for that long. In the immortal words of Discombobulus “If you pick the nits, expect the nits to pick you back”

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

@@robtye3333 You’re welcome tick

"...the media has done its job..." What a clown.

@Adam-nw1vy

10 ай бұрын

THIS TIME! He said this time. Quote him honestly.

Well - if it is the duty of MSM to expose wrong doings then why are they so selective when it comes to exposing the other side of the climate debate which is there if these fearless journalists chose to look.

@whocares5108

10 ай бұрын

Grooming gangs...

@taxpayer1040

10 ай бұрын

And why do they all worship Blair and continue to do so. Some might argue it was not 2008 but 1997 when they (msm) backed Blair and his war crimes. How is it acceptable for the great US of A to wage wars around the world yet not be subject to the International Criminal Court.

@curiositycloset2359

10 ай бұрын

Excess deaths

@curiositycloset2359

10 ай бұрын

Epstein client list

@number1audreyfan

10 ай бұрын

Seems to not consider the Epstein situation..

Neil is a great example of why I don't trust the media.

@Sonship1000

10 ай бұрын

100%. What an utter Freemason stooge.

Andrew himself was a "man about town". He obviously doesn't get the point ? It's the way Brand changed his life. Fought his addictions. Married. Redirected his focus and made a success of his new path. It's a hit piece. It has been expected for weeks. Brand has done excellent work reporting the behaviour of various Companies. He, unfortunately, didn't have the ability to "counter undercover and expose the corruption behind the hit pieces. Like Robinson."

@bluebellbeatnik4945

10 ай бұрын

it hasn't been expected for WEEKS, this has been going on for years. the media knew about his sexual assaults on women and have been trying to expose him for a long time - long before he got married and made a new path. He has been taking out superinjunctions to stop these stories for a long time. He CHOSE a new path to get conspiracy theorists on his side. You really have no idea what is actually going on here.

Andrew Neil becomes more ridiculous by the day.

@nelliedean7088

10 ай бұрын

He is an excellent interviewer but he knows nothing of alternative media and he is in his own bubble. Talking about him as a wellness guru is condescending. RB has 6 million subscribers having arisen entirely organically and by him alone.

@anthonyclark6388

10 ай бұрын

I'm sure if the msm want to spend 4 years and offered enough money they could easily find at least 4 people to claim sexual impropriety by Andrew Neil.

@conradpurcell3164

10 ай бұрын

@@nelliedean7088 RB did have the benefit of a media profile to get his 6m subscribers and having seen the work of popular KZreadrs such as DanTDM, Mr Beast and PewDiePie I'm not sure that being popular online correlates with the generation of thoughtful content.

@hittitecharioteer

10 ай бұрын

Pamela Bordes.

@sunflower-oo1ff

10 ай бұрын

Agree👍

This is as slimey as it gets. The mainstream media always sticks together.

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

Gotta keep regurgitating that narrative. Protest your innocence until the firing squad pull their triggers

Andrew has let himself down here because the media has been very bias and not just reported the allegations.

I seem to remember the Spectator "View from 22" doing a very biased piece against Russel Brand back in March... Andrew Neil calling everyone defending Russell Brand a green ink writing dimwit is very condescending... Russel Brand has X22 times the amount of subscribers that the Speccy has. Will Andrew Neil be going after Mick Jagger and 99% of other rock star that have been through thousands of groupies over the years????

A bit of straw man from Andrew Neil here. The main legitimate criticism is that the media weren’t interested in pursuing Brand when he was a darling of the establishment (despite rumours being prevalent), and they are still not interested in pursuing others now who are part of the establishment.

@oliverc1961

10 ай бұрын

You seem to have forgotten the pursuit of Brand over "Sachsgate". Brand was never the darling of the Establishment. Jacob Rees-Mogg and Hilary Benn were not his biggest fans. Journalists who thought Brand was sleazy and sexist and vulgar couldn't necessarily put their thoughts in their newspapers, both because of Britain's oppressive defamation laws AND because it would have alienated Brand's many thousands of supporters and ALL media outlets ultimately have to satisfy their audiences.

@Uppernorwood976

10 ай бұрын

@@oliverc1961 I was referring to the media establishment: The BBC, Channel 4, Newspapers, awards shows, Hollywood etc. he absolutely was their darling while he was doing all the alleged things.

@thehumancondition3

10 ай бұрын

You make no sense. It’s a 4 year investigation. He was in bed with them 4 years ago.

@oliverc1961

10 ай бұрын

@@Uppernorwood976 you might find it interesting to watch the interview Emily Maitlis had with one of the investigative journalists. I think she makes a good case that outsiders didn't know to what extent the outrageous behaviour that was part of Brand's schtick was just an act. He made every effort to behave in a plausibly deniable way - Grope someone? Just an act. Force a kiss on someone? Just an act. To some extent, other journalists who might have investigated were lulled into a false sense of security that SURELY the respectable BBC couldn't allow itself once again to facilitate the worst deeds of a predator. Plus, there's not a lot of money in newspapers these days: the business model is failing and journalists have less appetite for lawsuits. One platform that always pretends to not care, to the point of recklessness, is Private Eye. I wonder what Ian Hislop's excuse is for leaving this investigation up to Murdoch employees.

@JaneDoe-bo9tz

10 ай бұрын

What about Hugh ?

Expecting Due Process is "ludicrous"? Oh for the days when Spectator interviewed people with actual insight....

@chicsharp5786

10 ай бұрын

What a nutcase AN occassionally turns out to be. It's the media's responsibilty to throw muck at Brand - aye right daftie.

@oliverc1961

10 ай бұрын

You clearly don't know how to accurately report what someone's said.

Pay someone enough and they will tell a pack of lies. It has been like this forever.

Anyone that has listened to what Russell has been saying lately knows without a doubt that this is a hit job! During the me too movement there was complete silence regarding Russell. Now that he is speaking out against the elite ……surprise!!! You’d have to be a complete idiot to not see what is going on here. As a woman, I’m disgusted, and how easy it is to pay women to lie about these things, but then again, look at what’s happening to women. If you know what “Only Fans “is, then you know what I’m talking about. People have become increasingly immoral.

@JaneDoe-bo9tz

10 ай бұрын

He IS the elite he’s a multi millionaire. He’s followed the money

@jamessmith4843

10 ай бұрын

You people are genuinely mentally ill.

@carmelcurran7193

6 ай бұрын

​​@@JaneDoe-bo9tzYes but he has helped the poor unlike the rest of the elite..

I am neither defending or condemning Brand , i will reserve my judgement until a conviction or not IN A COURT OF LAW

@katja6332

10 ай бұрын

Actually I am quite okay with that media did their investigations. Because without Media, R Kelly, Weinstein, Bill Cosby and Amber Heard or Eppstein wouldn't have been outed. Media is important to bring down predators if for whatever reasons police or law enforcement failed to do their job. Only with media, they were forced to investigate properly. As far as we know, there were already accusations of sexual violence against Brand in 2003, but this was covered under the rug.. Hmmm. And now six more women came forward, which makes ten. My first reaction was "they want to bring him down", but both can be true, that he's a maybe a rapist and assaulted many women, then he needs to be taken down. And if statistics are right on sexual assault, there is a 98% chance those women talk the truth. Only 2% of accusations are false, only two percent 😮.

@funkyanimaltheearloffunkdo1871

10 ай бұрын

Could he ever have a fair trial now? The media have already found him guilty.

@boofuu3145

10 ай бұрын

@@funkyanimaltheearloffunkdo1871 doubt it will go to trial , if it does not soon mr Brand gonna make a lot of money

@GreatSageSunWukong

10 ай бұрын

What about the companies that enabled him? do you reserve your judgement on them? on the BBC allowing him to put those womens taxi's on the BBC tab paid for by the tax payer, on the company deciding to have no women co-host with him because of his behaviour?.

@boofuu3145

10 ай бұрын

@@GreatSageSunWukong enabled him to do what? i just told you i will reserve judgement and wait for the courts, you got a brain cell?

Brand hasn't been arrested or tried, yet people are already condemning him. Behaving like a pack of wolves is the media way. Regardless whether you like him or not I am more inclined to listen to Brand over Neil.

@julianshepherd2038

10 ай бұрын

You a Tate fan too.

@philiplindley7384

10 ай бұрын

Absolutely.

@paulwally9007

10 ай бұрын

@@julianshepherd2038 Tate is an utter grifter. Musk, on the other hand, has credibility.

@siriusfun

10 ай бұрын

Indeed. And they're also exonerating him. Thoughts on that?

@samuellowekey9271

10 ай бұрын

The alleged victims went to the media, not to the police, and many years after they claim the assaults happened, so of course it becomes about who do we believe. A cynical person might be tempted to think that this is about character assasination.

Andrew seemed to think unvaxed people like me should be imprisoned and now he seems to think innocent until proven guilty is ludicrous. Odious man.

@tk80mufa5

10 ай бұрын

Plus he supported the Iraq war !!!

@EyeByBrian

10 ай бұрын

I am not concurring that you should have been imprisoned for your vaccine stance, however I am curious if you think that given nightly blackout orders during the Blitz (in order to best evade German air strikes) that every Brit should have had ‘the right’ to object to this order and to keep their lights ablaze? For was that government order not an ‘infringement’ upon an individual’s ‘freedom’ to light their property when they so chose? Or-get your philosopher’s hat on-might there in fact be defensible limits to individual freedom for members of an incorporated community (e.g. a state) in the best interest of maintaining the soundness (i.e. the normal functioning) of that state?

Andrew Neil’s brain has, apparently, gone the same way as Joe Biden’s.

@bradwhelan4466

10 ай бұрын

I think your being unfair to Biden! 😁

@garyambrosini1427

10 ай бұрын

Or perhaps it has merely crushed your false image of Russell Brand.

@bigboydiamonds6529

10 ай бұрын

You better watch the fast deterioratin of Trump's brain. Every time he speaks he makes less and less sense. Don't forget your ID next time you buy a loaf of bread. Trump is obviously running scared.

@jackkelsey9326

10 ай бұрын

Yes, he's just old.

@annsu77

10 ай бұрын

@@garyambrosini1427 You can think about him whatever you like, it doesn’t justify hounding him down and accusing him of severe things such as r*pe. You’re acting as if people here are just fans of him, blindly defending him. No, people just don’t for fall for the media witch hunt set against Brand and believe the same media sources that lied to them about Covid and are hiding things from them and are not investigating many other real cases of corruption. People are questioning the official media narrative. They’ve become more critical towards the media and for a good reason. They’re not to be trusted, they’ve showed that many times.

It's the media pile on that is ludicrous

Andrew Neil seems to have gone downhill ever since he threw his toys out of the pram after not getting his own way at GB News. I appreciate his point that alternative media doesn't have the resources of the mainstream to investigate things in such depth as they do, but they also don't have the staggering arrogance and willingness to supplicate themselves to convenient corporate and political narratives of many in the mainstream media.

The current C4 is not owned by the same group so they aren't investigating themselves, to naively suggest current C4 execs will drop themselves in it is ludicrous, they will have ensured nothing will backfire on them.

Interesting that Mr.Neil refers to Trump and not Biden regarding denial?

@colincampbell4261

10 ай бұрын

Trumpanzee boyo!

@elingrome5853

10 ай бұрын

​@@colincampbell4261 yeah, imagine believing that Biden is a predator.. you'd have to be one of his children..

@fraseredk7433

10 ай бұрын

Yes indeed

@willmosse3684

10 ай бұрын

That’s because Biden hasn’t done all the stuff Trump has

@RAFchurchlawford4469

10 ай бұрын

I guess Mr Neil would NOT approve of a media investigation of the son of Joe 🤔

Will Andrew cover an interview on the pandemic and mainstream media coverage. What happened to investigative journalism on that subject?

Neil has really gone off the boil in the last couple of years. Time to call it a day Andrew.

@Ibanezguy2007

10 ай бұрын

just because he has a different opinion?

@valkimura1053

10 ай бұрын

@@Ibanezguy2007 Just because he sides with the corrupt and unjust.

@Ibanezguy2007

10 ай бұрын

@@valkimura1053 doesn’t mean he’s wrong about this

@valkimura1053

10 ай бұрын

@@Ibanezguy2007 I understand your point, but don't ignore the much bigger story behind the story, and why so many people are defending him. I don't think the real truth can be ascertained at this point, especially since very powerful people spent money and years interviewing hundreds of women before finding those who had things to say that they wanted to hear. Then they took pains to organize media releases and presentations for the public, complete with actresses and ominous music playing in the background of their film re-enactment. Why were they motivated to make such gargantuan efforts? Maybe Brand did cross the line with these women (?) But also- the toes he persistently steps on are among the wealthiest in the world- people who can afford the latest means and technology to fake evidence and pay off people. One thing that is undeniably clear is that they want his audience reach limited and activism against corruption shut down. We suddenly have a member of Parliament willing to openly break British tenets of law by going to social media companies and asking that he be demonetized. These are well coordinated efforts, and you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to see it. Brand openly encourages people to legally get involved in local politics to bring fairness to the system and end corruption. This is a real threat to those who find ways to use our taxes for their own enrichment and power- be it global corporations via their lobbyists, or politicians.

@youvsyou945

10 ай бұрын

@@Ibanezguy2007 Guilt until proven innocent is the way of the facists and the communists, to silence those who would speak out against them....Brand hasn't even been able to make his case or face his accusers in a court of law. I'm sorry, but I don't like where this is heading....the west has fallen. What next, taking his ability to buy food....use money? They're already dipping their toe in the water of debanking in the UK....Don't ya see how scary this stuff is? It's coming.... In this case, and in these times....being an absolutist on speech is not only appropriate, it's the duty of people who wish to remain free.

There goes my respect for Andrew Neil.

@cosmos237

10 ай бұрын

I lost all respect for him during covid, then came the revelation he's on 'that' flight list and it became clear he's compromised. We've seen these smear jobs before and Andy's defence of the establishment seems pretty half hearted. He's resorted to they're conspiracy theorists. Thin gruel indeed.

@brobinson8614

10 ай бұрын

And my respect for Russell Brand thicko fans

@cosmos237

10 ай бұрын

@@brobinson8614 keep consuming MSM, it clearly makes you smart. Don't forget your mask😂😂😂😂😂😂

@bluebellbeatnik4945

10 ай бұрын

and there goes your morality. support victims not r4pists.

@cosmos237

10 ай бұрын

@@bluebellbeatnik4945 we have dubious allegations at this stage, nothing more. Anyone who takes two decades to come forward could kindly be described as unreliable witness and should be treated with scepticism. If the accusations are shown to be baseless will the accusers find their life in ruins? I suspect they will not.

It is political cowardice that has given rise to extremism. Western governments have not addressed the issues that concern the majority of people.

@evolassunglasses4673

10 ай бұрын

Decades of open borders Globalisation has hollowed out the West. We are in real trouble. No good ending.

@alexmirza5210

10 ай бұрын

Maybe it would cause trouble to address them.

@raevj

10 ай бұрын

The System is CORRUPT as is everything that comes from it.

@bradwhelan4466

10 ай бұрын

When you look at the system it appears broken, when you thoroughly scrutinise it you realise its working absolutely as intended.

If it were 'investigative' journalism, Andrew might have a point. However, all the media seems to already be branding him a criminal and purely attacking his own defensive statements. However, when it comes to things like the grooming gangs, child molesters, terrorists, or bad immigrants - the villains are always seemingly granted complete anonymity for fear of tainting any future trial. When it's a straight white male though - he is named and shamed immediately regardless of the authenticity of any anonymous allegations. I'm not a fan of Russel Brand but the treatment he is getting based on fished up allegations from anonymous women without any filed charges. These women weren't coming forward on their own - not back in the day, not at the height of the Me2 movement, not even now - they were urged to by reporters in the corporate media who were obviously trying to find dirt on him. Let's wait and see how many of these anonymous women turn out to be just like Christine Blaisey Ford or Amber Heard.

@oliverc1961

10 ай бұрын

You haven't been taking careful note of what the media have been reporting. Various outlets have branded Brand a scumbag, just as various outlets have branded Trump a scumbag. Some outlets have gone further and said the evidence that Brand is guilty of criminal offences - sexual assaults of various sorts - is compelling, ie that Brand's a criminal.

@zoltan-zq3xe

10 ай бұрын

Agree they want him gone.

Instead of another media hit piece it would have been refreshing to get a balance view and maybe a discussion about the media scrum pile on. In Britain, we used to do this thing called innocent until proved guilty.

I agree that RB was crude and vile in his ‘comedy’ and behaviour in the past but I don’t agree that he is a vile person now. He has fundamentally changed…come off his addictions, become spiritual and helps others. Whether or not he did sexually assault others ..who knows and he will/is paying a price for his seedy past but credit to him for turning himself around …not an easy thing to do. Andrew is ultra critical and angry and speaks as if he is an authority. Having been on a jury in a couple of rape cases, it definitely is not the case that the jury..if they have information on a case, come to the jury without preconceived ideas and biases.

@bluebellbeatnik4945

10 ай бұрын

a rapist IS a vile person

Spent the whole chat waiting for Leith to point out that nobody's been tried from the client list of Epstein's island, so he could ask what was different about Brand?

@cosmos237

10 ай бұрын

The difference is Neil and most of the establishment are on that list. Which is the sole reason it doesn't warrant investigation

Andrew Neil just seems permanently whining about everyone, while not accepting any criticisms people have of him.

@fiveromannumerals

10 ай бұрын

Spot on

@julianshepherd2038

10 ай бұрын

It's been a good career for him.

@hittitecharioteer

10 ай бұрын

Remember Neil and Pamela Bordes? Imagine if they'd had women pretending to be her?

@tk80mufa5

10 ай бұрын

@tommybowyer4549 Neil was an early advocate for the Iraq war. Says it all really.

One of the arguments going around and one they didn’t mention here as I expected was why didn’t the media bother investigating Jeffery Epstein. Also, shame Andrew Neil didn’t speak out about liberal democracy during the Covid lockdowns.

@froggiewrench1

10 ай бұрын

A very good point. Something really stinks about the whole exaggerated Covvie debacle.

@coolexio

10 ай бұрын

It's always fascinating when people keep referencing some nebulous "they", it doesn't seem to register that the people involved in this exposé, aren't the same "they" that you think ought to be investigating Epstein. Last time I checked, Epstein was a US resident, Russel is a UK resident, and the exposé is by UK journalists. That is neither here nor there, an American Journalist exposed Harvey Weinstein, does he not count in your whataboutism argument? The devil is always in the details.

Andrew Neill is saying that even though a subject might be innocent, it is justified for newspapers to print allegations/accusations will will destroy the subject's reputation. So let's investigate all your past misdemeanors, Andrew Neill (and there must be some), the ones that were illegal and let's print them. That would be fine by you would it? What's needed is ease of access to defamation charges against the media. Of course, you SHOULD write about something ... that's been proven to be true in a court.

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

I wonder if Neil ever visited Epstein Island 🤔

we should neither defend or attack brand, as of now it's just accusations, so whatever you might think, he needs to be treated as an innocent man. That's the basis of UK law. Neither i , or anyone here, or Neil know his guilt, accusations are not guilt. Its doesn't matter if you like or hate the person, everyone , even the most odious of people deserve to be treated innocent until proven guilty. It's amazing how many people in the media , the establishment don't know this or respect it

@hmq9052

10 ай бұрын

They literally preface his innocence before every discussion/ news item. What are you on about?

@mostevil1082

10 ай бұрын

​@@hmq9052probably the rest of it after that where he rolls it back.

@mick947

10 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, because of how these documentaries are made, presenting the accused as an evil monster, the damage to his reputation and his ability to earn a living has already been done. I agree, the establishment has little interest in due process.

@hmq9052

10 ай бұрын

@@mick947 Professional journalists have an interest in the truth. That's it. What happens beyond that is unknown at the point of publication

@Adam-nw1vy

10 ай бұрын

@@mostevil1082 By simply outlining the allegations? Do you want them not to report these allegations at all? Jesus.

I think the question we'd all like to know the answer to - regardless of how this unfolds - is how it started. Did somebody approach the Times and Channel 4 - or did they decide to go on a fishing trip? That's what needs addressing.

I think people are raising an eyebrow that Russell Brand, famous Lothario, suddenly gets the #MeToo treatment - not during #MeToo but only after he voices a new set of opinions. It just seems weird that the moment to point at Brand was passed by then he says things the mainstream finds haram and suddenly everyone remembers Brand was a sex and drug fiend 15 years ago and needs investigative journalismed to death. I completely believe Brand did a bunch of very odd things with many, many women, I more than believe lots of women regret what they did with him, I could even believe he crossed a legal line, I just don't believe any of this information is new and roll my eyes at anyone thinking he was "too powerful" or "too famous" to do an exposé on *years* ago (but then he was a Jeremy Corbyn supporting hippy back then).

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

If Andrew Neil had said this I’d have more respect for him. Which is now at an all time low

Why do people assume that it's "always the same people" who believe in conspiracy theories? All sorts of people can believe a thing is a conspiracy if it undermines or questions what they believe - left or right. Straw man arguments come from all sides.

@edwardburroughs1489

10 ай бұрын

Very true. I'd say the propensity to believe in conspiracies (without any evidence) is endemic in humans. However the various popular theories do cut across political lines. For instance a popular lefty idea is that the world will end in 12 years if we don't all pray to Our Lady Greta Thunberg. Things along the lines of 'the World Economic Forum is trying to impoverish us' seems very popular on the right.

No fan of brand, but why did these women wait 20 years before going to the media? Should have gone to the cops or their boses on day 1.

@hmq9052

10 ай бұрын

One went to a rape crisis centre within hours. It's documented.

@Areflection4

10 ай бұрын

Cop on! You're having a laugh. Police branded as institutionalised woman hating; look at the stats of rape accusations that actually make it to the courts, na mind convictions - its a sick joke. I bet you haven't even watched the documentary!

@rebekahcomer8683

10 ай бұрын

Fear of repercussions. Understandably so when you look at how threatening he got at the time. Same with weinstein’s victims, and Jimmy saville’s victims. To use that as an excuse to rubbish their claims or suggest they have mercenary motives for coming forward now is truly appalling and naive of you.

@davidadiwego4608

10 ай бұрын

​@@rebekahcomer8683they save their own asses and help a rapist move on to the next victim?

@philipwebb8297

10 ай бұрын

Russell Brand Legacy Media Witch-Hunt Cry “Havoc” And let slip the dogs of war! Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene 1. The Sunday Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches published a “joint investigation” accusing Russell Brand of rape, sexual-assault. (What about flagellation, necrophilia and bestiality too? But I guess they’d be flogging a dead horse there!) So, Russell Brand is the latest target of a: “Cancel-Kulture Purge!” And there is a seemingly endless list of victims: Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Jordon Peterson, Nigel Farage, Tommy Robinson, Terry Gilliam, Julian Assange! Anyone who dares question the Globalist Marxist New World Order! My wife now has Alzheimer’s! It kicked in very soon after she’d had her 2nd Covid-19 jab in April 2021! And Alzheimer's cannot be cured! One day she’ll die from it! Many people are becoming Ill and many are dying because of that damn awful Covid-19 vaccination and that big Covid-19 con, that Russell Brand (and others) are exposing! And it’s not just Alzheimer's but other bad things as well! Lots of bad things! Blood-clots, stroke, cancer, heart-disease, ME! And all that stupid sex stuff is a smoke screen! A blind alley! Ying and Yang? The male response to the female shape is the human race’s life insurance policy. Those damn females’ who are dishing out the dirt are typical woke apparatchiks. Puppets who I wouldn’t trust as far as I could throw them! And now people have to prove that they are innocent. And by the time they do that it’s years and years later and all the damage has been done! Damn the awful legacy media! Damn the awful journalist/s! May they rot in the lowest levels of hell! My poor little wife! Keep up the good work Russell! And now KZread have stuck their dagger into his back! Demonetarized him! Its all so obvious just what they are doing! Elon Musk pull your finger out and buy up KZread too. Maybe you will when Twitter’s profit clears a trillion bucks? I like to write to people like the all-powerful establishment. I NEVER get a reply because, well, I’m too far beneath their pay-grade. But this letter is just to let you know that I at least am not been taken in by their machinations! And besides, I actually like writing letters and don’t mind forking out for a postage stamp or two! PS: My wife has just come up and asked me who I am and where is Sod them all!

The Spectator should try reading its own comment section: if you can´t even convince your own viewers, what does that say about you?

@Smelly_Minge

10 ай бұрын

It says ive unsubscribed, thats what :)

How many people put Andrew Neil into his own category of "No discernable talent"

Andrew Neil has always struck me as a man who really wants to be an establishment insider - and is deeply uncomfortable any time he finds himself on the outside. The media spent 4 years "investigating" Brand: and did everything in their power to cover up the grooming gangs.

We are watching the end of “The Spectator” in real time. The infection has taken hold and diagnosis fatal, as we mourn for unbiased journalism.

@siriusfun

10 ай бұрын

Disagree. From where I'm sitting, The Spec seems to provide a platform to varying opinions. That's as it should be. If you can't tolerate opposing opinions, there's a reddit forum/bubble for you, I'm sure.

@sunflower-oo1ff

10 ай бұрын

Well said !!👌

@taxpayer1040

10 ай бұрын

It is a pity that AN continues to celebrate anything connected with the USA. If he had a tenth of the intellect of Jordan Peterson it would be an overdose. Try a watch of JP in discussion with Matt Ridley on the origins of Covid 19. Did this have anything to do with right or left or rather right and wrong.

@pads-zr9ln

10 ай бұрын

I used to be a subscribers

@CyrilSneer123

10 ай бұрын

Normie News

This is a HIT JOB 💯

@hittitecharioteer

10 ай бұрын

Obviously so.

@annsu77

10 ай бұрын

100%. It has all the hallmarks of a hit job.

Why does a responsible media spend so much time investigating an old comedian/entertainer? Surely with such wonderful credentials they could investigate and shine the spotlight on a worthwhile adversary.

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

Ghislane Maxwell, for instance

@crulove

10 ай бұрын

The climate con would be another good investigation.

@curiositycloset2359

10 ай бұрын

All the excess deaths might get a mention. Rather than being totally ignored.

@OsellaSquadraCorse

10 ай бұрын

​@@crulove Someone independent, with paid employees, running a media company and with a successful KZread channel could do it. Oh, wait....

@Smelly_Minge

10 ай бұрын

Might aswell investigate every rock n roll star since the 60's.

It's ridiculous to call Brand talentless, that kind of shat on a reasonably compelling opinion.

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

Andrew holds all Englishmen in contempt, especially when the opportunity to twist a knife presents itself.

@elkpaz560

10 ай бұрын

Men experience jealousy too.

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

@@elkpaz560 Especially jealousy of a guy who can get a girls pants off with a wink 😉

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

@@22wabbit Of course not! He’s an Englishman! That’s a coarse American affectation like high-fives and fist-bumps.

I don’t defend YOU A Neill, for what you said during covid & the aftermath. Will never forget.

hasn't the media learnt anything from the Kevin Spacey debacle ?

@ciarandonegan6799

10 ай бұрын

If you don't think Richard or spacey weren't both creeps your an absolute fool

It’s a witch hunt because he slags off the establishment, nothing more nothing less.

All I heard was............."This time we are telling the truth. If you don't believe me, feel free to ask any of my colleagues."

One of Brand's accusers now works for Channel 4. Pure coincidence I'm sure.

he may of done all these things, but why him and why now, most well known actors have done similar things.

@FC-PeakVersatility

10 ай бұрын

To be fair a good proportion of men have done similar before they grew up (and after in some cases)

@fooman65

10 ай бұрын

His channel has more viewers than most news channels and they don't like what he's discussing. The brainwashing programs arn't working.

@siriusfun

10 ай бұрын

Apparently it's the culmination of a 4yr investigation. Time will tell.

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

Absolutely the right questions to ask. You start taking flak when you’re over the target.

Andrew has a large blind spot, which is why he doesn't understand why C4 has an interest in helping in the downfall of Brand despite themselves being implicated in his rise to fame during the worse of his behaviour. Andrew thinks he sees clearly - but he doesn't have important pieces of the jigsaw. Maybe he is just more interested in those well earned Blue Nuns these says.

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

Ohh, I’m sure that as a member of the Inner Circle Andrew knows precisely what he’s at. He just underestimates viewers’ capacity for thought

'Even if he's done nothing wrong he's a scumbag'.......& there you have it, the full mask off moment

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

Neil just couldn’t help himself. But after all, that was the purpose of this “interview” in the first place. One can picture Neil salivating at the prospect.

Hilarious that "Neil" thinks he is still credible.😂

@-Gumbo

10 ай бұрын

and you think Brand is 🤣🤣

@KAZVorpal

10 ай бұрын

@@-GumboAny rational, informed person finds Brand credible. That's WHY morally primitive sociopaths like this guy are attacking him.

@MrDavidht

10 ай бұрын

​@@KAZVorpalerm no they don't Brand is a self confessed misogynist.

@hittitecharioteer

10 ай бұрын

Pamela Bordes - a woman of the night - might have something to say about Andrew Neil?

@KAZVorpal

10 ай бұрын

@@MrDavidht Russell Brand, unlike the sociopaths who attack him, is honest and introspective, and admits that he's done a lot of things wrong in the past, and that he has character flaws he works to control. This makes him MORE credible.

Prince Andrew... I rest my case....

Amazing how many of yesterday’s conspiracy theories have become today’s truths.

Personally, I think the media should have exercised a duty of care for this 1 woman alleging rape, and reported it to the Police to protect this alleged victim and maintain credibility. Instead, the media have spent 4-years investigating. How much money is being paid to these people coming forward? Will that be revealed? When will the anonymity of these allegers be lifted? Trial by media is wrong.

Why Neil doesn’t convince me. He says Brits habitually elevate talentless people. What they actually do is chop down any talented & successful people much more.

@ljo642

10 ай бұрын

He doesn't seem to recognise that HE is one of those ''talentless'' people himself.

@Paul-dv4dr

10 ай бұрын

unless they have woke credentials. To the gatekeepers, your talent matters much less than your virtues and values. Or maybe, just maybe, I can't get a book deal because my novel is cr@p?

@m.p.7075

10 ай бұрын

While he's been elevated for decades and doesn't see the connection. What a clown 😂. He just believes he should have been elevated much much higher.

Sorry Andrew Brexit has nothing to do with the 2008 crash. I voted out of the EEC in 1975 as just like the present EU this huge megalith is unnecessary.

@ljo642

10 ай бұрын

Why ''sorry''?

@alexmirza5210

10 ай бұрын

But it is a megalith nevertheless and it's on our doorstep so can't just pretend it'll disappear.

@classicraceruk1337

10 ай бұрын

@@alexmirza5210 Never said we could ignore it, I said it should not exist. I also said Brexit had nothing to do with the 2008 crash. The EU is up shit creek without a paddle. Highest interest rates on record there, plunging in and out of recession. The main powerhouse Germany in recession and falling production numbers. There is going to be a huge bill coming for the members of the EU that actually are net payees.

@classicraceruk1337

10 ай бұрын

@@ljo642 Why? Try thinking a bit. What is the point of the EU? The only thing Europe needs is an FTA everything else the EU does is a waste of money and resources.

Andrew Neil's condescending attitude is frustrating. If you think there is a coordinated hit job against russell, if you even think along those lines, he states these same people believe in lizard people. A possible line of thinking conflated with an extreme David Ike conspiracy.

Argue against the issues he raises if you disagree. Play the ball, not the man.

Neil has lost his mind. And lives in the world of make believe of where false accuser of famous men have never existed. Ronaldo, Neymar Spacey, Trump to name just a few.

This person is defiantly NOT IN TOUCH WITH THE POWER STRUCTURE OF TODAY. He is most deffently a woke supporter in all flavors of that meaning.

Perhaps we will be able to enjoy the same sort of investigation regarding Dido Harding and the £34 billion that was supposedly spent on Test and Trace?

Neil talks about the public elevating Russel Brand at the same time he calls him talentless, implying Brand didn’t get there himself. But that’s to misunderstand the millions who got Brands, at times, brilliant humour and quick wittedness and originality. The same gulf that exists between up themself establishment people and ordinary peoples comedy desires, is the fuel, that understandably fires the disjunct between establishment media that nobody believes in as its at odds with personal views, and the new ways of online content.

Why do we care in the slightest what Andrew Neil thinks about anything? He lasted what 2 shows on GBNews?

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

He doesn’t care. Neil cares to crucify Brand while the opportunity presents itself

Andrew normally has reasoned views, but he's really lost me on this one. If there is verifiable evidence against Brand he should go down, but this trial by media ain't it.

@samuellowekey9271

10 ай бұрын

Yes, the alleged victims, who have chosen to come forward many years after the alleged fact, decided to go to journalists and not the police.

@rebekahcomer8683

10 ай бұрын

It isn’t trial by msm - they’re just exposing it. Rightly so. Then it’s up to each individual reader to decide what they think. But, Andrew is is right, the innocent until proven guilty trope is purely for the courtroom. The Times wasn’t trying to judge. To suggest the press have failed by investigating these claims is ridiculous. Also, terrifying.

@hittitecharioteer

10 ай бұрын

Investigate Neil's association with Pamela Bordes.

@haydnlawrence8167

10 ай бұрын

And what he said on the j*bs and the new flu.

@28daysleitor

10 ай бұрын

Maybe consider the opinion that you might be wrong?

We are defending the right of every person to be considered innocent until proved guilty. This means their accusers should have taken their complaints and allegations to THE POLICE, and not to the low gutter press, so many years after they were ''assaulted'' or ''offended''. One day Mr Neil may find himself in the same position. It's easy to accuse anyone - and they should NEVER be considered guilty unless found to be so in a court of law. Think on THAT, Mr Neil.

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

Neil’s a typical Scottish establishment puritan hypocrite. I’m sure his skeletons are far more repulsive than anything in Russell Brand’s cupboard.

@colincampbell4261

10 ай бұрын

There are many reasons why women do not report sexual abuse, attitudes like yours being one.

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

@@colincampbell4261 There are also many reasons why people state the obvious in such a way as to imply that they’re morally superior to others. And none of those reasons is actual moral superiority

@user-zc4yd9ss7h

10 ай бұрын

Many of Saville's victims went to the police. They told them to go away and destroyed the evidence.

@carmelcurran7193

6 ай бұрын

You can't criminalise anyone just for "not being a nice guy". If you did then half the world would be in prison.

Brand is clearly his own biggest fan, and from what I've experienced of his life's work(very little, thankfully), I think that if I were to meet him, I wouldn't like him at all, but it's patently obvious that he is being targeted now for his opinions on Covid, Global Warming, the abject spinelessness of current politicians and so on, all of which tend to make him popular with the people, and unpopular with the targets of his criticism. That's why he's being targeted, there is no other reason. He is speaking the truth!

@alexmirza5210

10 ай бұрын

Except global warming is happening.

@hamishanderson6738

10 ай бұрын

​@@alexmirza5210not man-made.

@TheCaptainSlappy

10 ай бұрын

Ah yes, the scam that he is a truther. He's not. Russkie Brand has been a paid Moscow asset for 15 years now. Did you not watch his interviews on Russia Today talking about overthrowing the UK & US governments? Or with his buddy Alex "KGB" Jones?

@MrBannystar

10 ай бұрын

@@alexmirza5210 It always has done, and will continue to do so. So, why on earth are people's wallets being squeezed more in some pathetic vain attempt to try and prevent it from happening?

@alexmirza5210

10 ай бұрын

Well any way to make money and profit, it's the model of how the economy works- sequestering money for essential services including stopping everyone from overheating, getting too cold etc. So combating global warming is embedded in the market as it's becoming essential, but it's the way everything works from commodities to services to manufacturing.

Shame on the hard right and the hard left for wanting decent working people to receive higher wages. We profoundly apologise Andrew we won’t ask again

@hmq9052

10 ай бұрын

Decent working people shouldn't be reading the Spectator. It's not for you.

@dennisodonoghue8533

10 ай бұрын

@@hmq9052 It’s important to know what your enemies are thinking

@hmq9052

10 ай бұрын

@@dennisodonoghue8533 They're thinking the Spectator used to be an elitist centre right sane space. Who are these nutters in the comments?

@evolassunglasses4673

10 ай бұрын

Decades of open borders Globalisation has hollowed out the West, particularly the working class

@pads-zr9ln

10 ай бұрын

@@hmq9052 fraser Nelson, Centre right, even the lib dems think he's a lefty

'We're in danger of leaving an evidenced based world' Andrew Neil certainly left it when it came to covid and the jabs. He's sure got a brassneck this one.

@crayzee1372

10 ай бұрын

You're right, a bearded weirdo on the Internet using cheeky, but eloquent, language isn't evidence

@gerhard7323

10 ай бұрын

@@crayzee1372 You're dead right, Mr crayzee. There's a wealth of scientific evidence out there that contradicts our porky friend above regardless of RB's pronouncements.

@crayzee1372

10 ай бұрын

@@gerhard7323 it's weird. I genuinely think he was speaking facts. You think he isn't

@gerhard7323

10 ай бұрын

@@crayzee1372 Not that weird. You just prefer alternative facts.

@crayzee1372

10 ай бұрын

@@gerhard7323no so such thing as alternative facts

Looks like all those “conspiracy theorists” were right again

"most people couldnt give a monkeys about Russell Brand" Subscribers to the channel: Spectator - 302k Russell Brand - 6.62M Last 10 video avg views: Spectator - 29k Russell Brand - 589k Yikes.

He says yeas he is innocent until proved guilty. And he goes ahead with convicting him.

@andylewis7360

10 ай бұрын

Hypocritical?!? Andrew Neil?!? Heaven forbid!!