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@Kreepyb5

6 ай бұрын

Thankyou Andrew.☮️🫶🏼

@irestar6

6 ай бұрын

Also Folks, Andrew will never ask you to call a WhatsApp Number or hand over personal details or send him money, unless you want to join as members here on KZread, or to join Locals as a supporter. Please ignore anyone doing this and claiming to be Andrew.

@seekerout

6 ай бұрын

To my mind, the big elephant in the room is corruption. I suspect that, when it comes to differentials between countries in terms of power, you'll find it correlates with the degree of corruption. Corrupt governments are the biggest impediment to wealth-generation and social well-being, not race or ethnicity.

@lizhyink5636

6 ай бұрын

How is this helpful, if you're omitting information that might counter your view? ( ^ Regarding this interview and previous videos on the subject of current events and history in Israel and Gaza, some now gone.) It's interesting that you haven't addressed historians, political scientists, and writers, like: Ilan Pappe, Norman Finkelstein, Katie Halper, Anthony Loewenstein, Amira Haas, etc. ( A political view, like Zionism, is not a religious/ ethnic heritage, like being Jewish.)

@seekerout

6 ай бұрын

@@lizhyink5636 You sound like you're commenting on a student's essay. This is a one-man KZread channel. Andrew can run it in whichever way he sees fit. Go start your own channel or find another one if you don't think he's good enough.

That was an excellent interview Gold! I have nothing to add. Every word said should be carved in stone!! Bravo!

Finally, a college professor that didn't make me smack my forehead in frustration. Great interview.

Fascinating and thoughtful piece. Thank you Andrew.

Wow! Excellent interview and as much as I love you, your guest is absolutely stellar! His skill in communicating the concrete and concepts had me thoroughly engrossed and I really wanted the interview to be longer... Fascinating! Bravo for reaching out to him and thank you, sir, for accepting the invitation...💜

@VioletACordy

6 ай бұрын

🌈🌲THANK YOU + BRILLIANT PODCAST 😊“Dr Remi Adekoya is a Polish-Nigerian writer and political scientist. ... Growing up the son of a Nigerian father and Polish mother in Lagos..” v💜

Gosh. Should this interview perhaps be revisited?!

🌈🌲ANDREW ~ Touché ~ Ya ~ except Jews😊Thanks for inviting this VERY INTERESTING + BRILLIANT 💥💥“Dr. Remi Adekoya is a Polish-Nigerian writer and political scientist. ... Growing up the son of a Nigerian father and Polish mother in Lagos..” Andrew ~ thank you for the GOOD YOU DO🦋🦋Shalom ~ v🌲🌲🌳

Really enjoyed this interview. I have visited Africa and it is such a beautiful continent with amazing people. What was really noticeable though was the corruption. If you can take the corruption out of Africa then the communities will become wealthier.

@lizeggar2421

6 ай бұрын

As a person who was born and bred in Africa and lived there fir over 60 years, I agree. You have hit the nail on the head. However, Africa has a far more complicated history than most non Africans realise.

Great guest and interview Andrew. You’ve been busy today! Keep up the great work 😊

Excellent , Andrew. Thank you !

Thank you. This interview resonated deeply with me and has been a bit healing. I’m a queer, tree-hugging-liberal, American woman of Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jewish ethnicity. Seeing the sick and animalistic brutality of the recent attacks on Israel has been devastating. My shock and hurt have been wildly compounded by experiencing the outcry against Israel by fellow progressive liberals. What has been even more confusing has been my experience that many of these folks are unwilling to engage in a personal dialogue about these matters. I cannot understand someone I’m being willing to raise their voice about these issues very publicly but then refusing to engage an actual conversation because “it’s too sensitive of an issue”, “neither of us will change our minds about anything anyway”, along with the not so subtle undertone that because of my heritage, I am inherently biased and thus incapable of critical thinking or compassion for all human beings. This interview has provided me with a little bit of insight into the thinking behind this experience and allowed me to let go of at least a little bit of the hurt.

Much of the world is ignorant about Zionism and Judaism and their principle differences.

Left or right Andrew, thousands of ordinary Palestinians, women and CHILDREN are being slaughtered 💔. I get that you are trying to get your head around this horrendous situation but Israel (backed by America) love them, hate them or be indifferent are killing indiscriminately. Its time we stopped the notion that israel can do no wrong 😢

This was an excellent interview! Now I need Remi’s book!

Thank you for airing this wonderful and informative conversation!.

Great show, Andrew. Excellent guest, interview. You continue to bring the whole truth to light.

💜🌈🌲ANDREW ~ Touché ~ Ya ~ except Jews😊Thanks for inviting this VERY INTERESTING + BRILLIANT 💥💥“Dr. Remi Adekoya is a Polish-Nigerian writer and political scientist. ... Growing up the son of a Nigerian father and Polish mother in Lagos..” Andrew ~ thank you for the GOOD YOU DO🦋🦋Shalom ~ v🌲🌲🌳🌲🌲🌲🌲PS YES ~ I WILL READ DR. R. A.’s Book💜💜

Amazing guest. This is the sort of professor universities should be vying for. I look forward to reading his book.

What he said is very true. When we blacks go to most of the Asian countries the treatment they give us is terrible. I have more to say about that.

@balthus69

6 ай бұрын

That is unfair, but during Covid and "asian hate" in the US- 90% of the time it was a young black guy beating the crap out of an old Asian lady. It leaves an impression even though a minority.

@lisasmith7066

6 ай бұрын

I’m sorry to hear that. 😢

@narendra62

6 ай бұрын

In general western countries have better attitudes to lots of things. But the west is obsessed with not being equitable enough. In Africa you also have all the bigotry under the sun

This has to be one of my all time favorite interviews you’ve done… def going to share, think more people should see it. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

What an interesting interview and a very articulate gentleman, we certainly do need solutions on equalising wealth across the world and to quash the stereotyping we human beings place on each other and fear is a big part of that, it is quite shameful really how we behave

Interesting discussion, thanks!

Excellent guest! 🇮🇱🇺🇸

Thank you Andrew for bringing this insightful guest. Thank you Remi, looking forward to reading your book

What an impressive guest.

Absolutely brilliant interview, Andrew, as always.

Excellent interview!

Damn Andrew stepping up your game. As someone who grew up studying this, it’s nice to hear someone who actually knows what they are talking about and not just Hasan Piker style virtue signaling.

@VioletACordy

6 ай бұрын

🌈🌲ANDREW ~ EXCELLENT + THANK YOU 4 THIS ~ “Dr Remi Adekoya is a Polish-Nigerian writer and political scientist. ... Growing up the son of a Nigerian father and Polish mother in Lagos..” v💜

In New Orleans, this is a Seldom Talked about issue. However it has been noticeable for years... Typically we have a common language in Jazz Music 🎷... However these difficult times require serious discussion.

really informative, I do enjoy listening to rational well presented arguments, thank you

Fascinating interview. Really enjoyed it.

Hi Andrew, If you could get Norman Finklestein on that would provide viewers with a more a more balanced perspective in combination with this guests views. I can't believe your guest described Friere's views as simplistic.

People from the east can freely travel anywhere in the west yet people from the west cannot safely travel in the east. Who holds the power?

@Tuli_Bloom

6 ай бұрын

A man can travel east and west without many problems. Women must be a lot more careful when choosing a destination, including Israel.

This is an excellent interview

Excellent interview please continue to do your part. Very informative . I stand with Israel

Great interview Andrew! Keep this type of dialogue coming.

Sending you and your family lots of love Andrew❤

Good interview. Nice to see you so focused again.

how have they become so narrow minded its turned into blind hatred glorifying brutal terrorism

Excellent and very informative video - thank you.

You're a very good, fair person and care compared to some other people.

The Jews’ dedication to education has given them that envious prejudice.

@aquilajedi

6 ай бұрын

I think you’re right and it makes me sad.

Buying the book!! Great interview 😊

Thank you so much for this enlightened conversation… can you please do more reporting on the Israel/Palestine War and the immediate polarization of support that occurred. I am an American Jew living in NYC, and though I am in my late 60’s I am lucky enough to have many young people in my life who truly want to do good. Many of them are former Peace Corps members, and have continued to go to devote their lives to good work. What has surprised me so much is that while I grapple daily with the complexity of what has happened since October 7th (e.g. Israel’s response to the October 7th atrocities, the brutality with which they have treated civilian Palestinians since then) and I am able to at least attempt to balance the right to Israel as a Jewish state, with the equal right for Palestinians to have a state of their own, these young people have jumped so quickly to right vs. wrong. With this attitude, we can never find a way to meaningful peace…because both sides of this conflict are right. Anyway, in order to understand … or at least come to an even marginally reasoned and educated position, it required a lot of me that I read a lot of history, that I listened to thought leaders on both sides of the conflict. It was time consuming, arduous and at times exhausting to fill my head with all of this….so, when people quickly jump to the oppressed/oppressor model (and have no idea about the history for the Jews) I am so disappointed. Nobody wants to hear an old lady’s ranting … but I think young people do listen to you. Please give this more time on your youtube page.

This was in depth interview.

Thank you 🙏 🤍💙🙏🇮🇱

Incredibly interesting interview!

Excellent guest 👍

Great interview xx

I am a white South African and I just wish that more people would realize how much truth this gentleman speaks. I honestly think that the world has a very distorted view of this country and how we have managed to overcome so much as a democracy. Visit sometime, you would amazed and pleasantly surprised.

@lizeggar2421

6 ай бұрын

But sadly, in so many respects things gave been destroyed and gone backwards. Crime too, has gone through the roof. Very sad.

Incredible interview ❤

Have you considered Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi? ( "Meet The Wrong Type of Jew, The Media Doesn't Want You To Know Exists" on Double Down News from 2 years ago.) * Being for equal rights for Palestinians, is not pro- terrorism and cheering the Oct. 7th actions by Hamas. Being against the ongoing apartheid by the Israeli government and the political ideology of Zionism, is NOT antisemitism. ( Additionally: Katie Halper in discussion with Marc Steiner, and other people, also made interesting commentary about Christian Zionism, and the belief that fighting over this region will one day lead to a separate prophecy, as a factor in current politics.)

@lizhyink5636

6 ай бұрын

Coverage from the U.S. by Brook Gladstone, host of the National Public Radio show, "On The Media", has included an interview with David Remnick, " Grief and Rage in the Middle East " ( recently ), and the one with Philip Weiss, " New Narrative On Israel-Palestine" ( *from 2014), was also interesting in that a decade ago, injustice was being noted. ( *Of course, this doesn't justify war crimes in Israel from Oct. 7, nor the war crimes that continue to happen since in Gaza.) There is also this in the mix: "Israeli TV Host Goes Mask Off Genocidal " at the Secular Talk channel addressed how some rhetoric is fostering escalation. * I'd like to amend this comment by not closing with that reference, and instead, this from the website, " Common Dreams"( 11/2/23) by John Rabb: "The Rhetoric of War and Genocide Is on Display by US and Israeli Media The othering of the entire population of Gaza-alongside misleading rhetoric and incessantly one-sided coverage-has laid the groundwork for the uncritical demonization of Palestinians, a necessary prerequisite for dramatic violence against them." ( The specific examples in the rest of the article are relevant).

excellent interview. I'll be getting the book (and sign up for Ground news)

I don't normally comment on anything really but this interview is so impressive, as is your guest. I watched it twice and asked my friends to subscribe to your channel on the back of this. Great work Andrew. Ground News looks interesting. I'll have a look.

Very informative.

Peace starts with truth telling

Andrew you are full of good ideas.

Listened on audio, just wanted to comment for algorithm. Good interview, good persons.

Settler violence was on the increase prior to Oct 7

will you have a conversation with Rabbi Elhanan Beck about Palestine and Israel?

What about all the people on the "right" who disagree with the behaviour of Israel?

@TheIsraelProphetess

6 ай бұрын

They’re wrong. As you know hatred of Jews is a thing on the right as well. Many evangelical Christians believe they are the “new” Israel and that Jerusalem belongs to them as well.

Excellent! Thank you both. So glad I found you. Suggestion, if I may, look into western legal systems. How are judges determined , how long do they serve, what enforcement mechanisms exist for their decisions and sources of laws. You might find it interesting to compare the laws in the Torah against the laws in other versions of Exodus and other books in the Pentateuch/Old Testament. I am not seeing anyone looking at this and it is significant…wealth is ultimately regulated by laws. In Britain as I understand it the monarch appoint someone to appoint the judges and then the appointments are approved by a panel, the monarch appoints the real power of King Charles needs to be taught to the world, because generally in my experience royalty is seen as window dressing when in fact, they still have massive real power.

What an interesting guy.

Even for centrists who like to think before concluding, it gets confusing - there are very easy moral judgements but there are many more moral judgements that fall in that gray area. Hamas leaders speak terrible things and we tend to define the entirety of the Palestinian people by what we hear. On the other hand, we see some Israeli numbnuts on social media mocking the Palestinian suffering and we tend to define the entirety of the Israeli people by what we see. And we're still stuck on square one - see no solution and remain ambivalent depending on what we see or hear on any particular day. Hamas has to go and that is clear. But, Israel is not truly a secular state - that brings up the question on whether this ongoin conflict is indeed a religious one for Israel as well. Seems like the Likud party with it's shady history and radical religious factions also needs to evolve or be replaced before any peace can be reached. Religious wars are some of the most savage and will never be resolved.

@jwollheim

6 ай бұрын

Well Hamas is the elected government in “Palestine”. Every “Palestinian” leader has been an antisemite. There have been left wing Israeli governments trying desperately to grant statehood to “Palestine” for decades. The Arabs have responded with suicide bombs and terror campaigns. There already was a two state solution, the Arab state is Jordan. This whole “Palestinian” identity was invented in the 60’s, the documents spelling it out by those inventing it are a google search away.

@Cherlann

6 ай бұрын

Ver well said. My thoughts are similar.

@Hmmm-hmmm

6 ай бұрын

You’re concerned by Hamas’ words? How about Hamas’ actions? It was about a month ago. Have you already forgotten the hostages?

@olibertosoto5470

6 ай бұрын

@@Hmmm-hmmm Read the post again

@Hmmm-hmmm

6 ай бұрын

You have qualms about a tiny Jewish state that has given much to the world but how about the enormous Islamic nations with Muslims slaughtering one another surrounding it? To be fair, most democracies are overwhelmingly Christian even if they don’t claim to be. I’d much rather live under Christian or Jewish leadership any day. Not all values systems are morally equivalent. The moral confusion with young progressive people today will be the end of western values and the alternative is living under barbaric Islamic ones. 🙃 Gd bless the many innocents who are stuck. 🙏

This discussion omits mention of Ilan Pappe and Norman Finkelstein...Why? " Collective wealth" was emphasized, but not *generational wealth and economic resources/ or not, after displacement...why not? Since Dr. Adekoya focuses on wealth, wouldn't the impact of surrounding circumstances also matter? (Amira Haas was interviewed at "Democracy Now!", and mentioned her father, a holocaust survivor, who made a thoughtful comparison, as well.) How is the documented/ recorded language of Netanyahu, and members of his administration, left completely out? ( This is in refering to Palestinians as " amalek" and "human animals", etc.) Wouldn't that dehumanization matter on this subject, in regards to stereotypes affecting perception?

@lizhyink5636

6 ай бұрын

Ilan Pappe was interviewed by Sam Seder and Emma Vigeland with this title, "Understanding The Myths And Realities Of Israel", if anyone is curious about his thoughts on history and current events.

@lizhyink5636

6 ай бұрын

*Regarding Norman Finkelstein: I had not known about his initial response to Oct. 7, till I watched the interview he did with Piers Morgan to take accountability and clarify, as well as amend that. His connection to taking it down to being historical dishonesty and erasure was interesting. Finkelstein is a scholar who has done many interviews, among them was one last year with Katie Halper, " Should Israel Exist?", in which he was reflecting upon Putin's actions at the time as a colonizing agent. Another interesting interview was from August, 23 with TRT World, ( Turkish Radio and Television), "Norman Finkelstein’s lifelong rebellion and new war on woke | The InnerView" ( This interview addressed wealth and political influence, which might also connect with what Dr. Adekoya was saying about this, even if each person may have different views about the subject.

You changed the inflammatory trailer pic to a different one. Still preposterous, but much nicer than "Hamas Plays The Victim!. " Well done!

@AndrewGold1

6 ай бұрын

trying to make it nuanced. i know i'm biased. things are complex. i don't know what is right.

@denemessina8601

6 ай бұрын

@@AndrewGold1 I don't know what to say. It takes a person of substance to say what you said here. I know you must be terrified for your relatives and you really feel like you want to help your people in some way. You must also feel a lot anger . Making sense of all of it must be near impossible. I don't think I could do it. You have insane Hamas on one side, insane Bibi and his insane cabinet on the other. Neither seems to give a stuff about their respective civilians and both have their own agendas that similarly disregard the actual people that they're meant to represent. The other actors in this tale of woe The U.K, the U.S. Iran, : All of our leaders are as bad or worse. Your loved ones are caught in the middle of this lunacy. It's horrible. Sorry if I've been insensitive about that Andrew. Can we get back to slagging off Tom cruise and dissecting his wobbly sci-fi church now? That stuff is interesting and fun and your knowledge of that subject is second to none.

@andalltheangelssay212

6 ай бұрын

@@denemessina8601I agree

I just shared on FB. You are welcome

'...Than even white western people' There is no disregard for black people here.

@realMaverickBuckley

6 ай бұрын

Oh my apologies, he followed it up saying it's BS.

@zanzah_

6 ай бұрын

So delete your comment then fool😊

Versus... this was just an exercise in confirmation bias. Why not interview someone with a contrary view

I weep for the gigabytes I spent precious money on watching this video. 🤢

Hey my friend 🙋‍♀️ been awhile I know lol Just seen the trailer on Netflix for your buddy Robbie Williams. Just seeing the trailer broke my heart Andrew! Just wondered if you watched it yet? When I’m in the right mood I think I will this week. Going through things so I have not watched this video but I just wanted to ask you you that question Bruh🙋‍♀️ 🫂♥️🫂🇨🇦

@AndrewGold1

6 ай бұрын

Not yet! But I will, and will try to get him back on the channel!

@joebaz4844

Ай бұрын

@@AndrewGold1 There's no requirement for Ceasefire. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iKmBx86rYNHFlps.htmlsi=iwtRt5MRMl1bBCuA

HOLY LAND GIVEN TO GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE... ----HOLY BIBLE

@balthus69

6 ай бұрын

Right? Who will argue with God? Makes perfect sense.

He said a lot of good things, but he is very naive and uninformed on anti semetism

Versus?

Not versus at all.

About India, his correct coming from Indian heritage

@SA-yd1xk

6 ай бұрын

His mother must be indian as he has a Nigerian yoruba name.

You’re not alone ❤

White Helmets Vs the free Burma rangers. Operation Blue Star. Sikhism and the SS?

Try to interview The Christian Prince..he is a youtuber with lots of info

@shangrila448

6 ай бұрын

yes please - Son of Hamas

@denemessina8601

6 ай бұрын

Sounds like a prog rock album.@@shangrila448

The Left gets some things wrong and the Right gets MANY things wrong haha. Either way, I hope Israel and Palestine will find their way to peace.

Who's 'we'

The boys in blue are coming for you. That was the last time Tottenham will be on top of the league. Man City currently eviscerating some team from Europe somewhere.

Imagine if Portugal sneaked into Spain and started murdering civilians, and Spain retaliated. I think everyone would say Spain was justified; despite Spain and Portugal historical conflicts. (War of the Oranges, for one.)

@brasenose79

6 ай бұрын

False analogy. The historical conflicts between Spain and Portugal have nothing in common with the Jewish/Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

@polyglot2023

6 ай бұрын

I would agree that yes Spain is within its right to “defend itself” and retaliate but I would change my mind if they specifically started targeting civilians, going into their homes, kidnapping the elderly, wiping out entire families, raping women and killing babies all whilst recording their atrocities and screaming, “God” is great. Also Spain and Portugal have both historically been Catholic. The war between Palestine and Israel, although people try deny it, is a religious war. Muslims wanting to erase Jews

@paulapeixotodecarvalho5878

5 ай бұрын

There is absolutely no sense in that analogy. Portugal has been a recognized self determined state since 1143 and Spain is not (nor has it ever been) colonizer of Portugal. Hence, if Portugal, a sovereign state, would attack Spain, another sovereign state, the latter would obviously have the right to defend itself from the attacks. Quite different is the Israel-Palestine situation. According to International Law, it is the colonized people (such as Palestinians) that has the right to defend itself from its oppressor/ colonizer (such as Israel). On the other hand, Israel, as colonizing entity of Palestine has actually the responsibility to care for its colonized well-being!

But how many actual dd victims are there..?

Gold- Educate yourself about India.. about caste system.. and even racism .. apart from Arundhati Roy.. as she is from same group Greta thunberg belongs to.. u advice others to hear both sides.. why dont u do that yourselves regarding India?

@AndrewGold1

6 ай бұрын

I would love to! I don’t know much about India.

I have a few friends that have fallen into this dualistic way of looking at it and I am honestly worried they might get sucked in too far and get hurt. I wish they’d heed my warning not to get so involved. but they won’t. :/

Seems you still hve some wires crossed on this topic andrew. Shame your not a bit more balanced “me balanced” “mr fair” most Palestinians do NOT want hamas in power. Where were you during the “women life freedom” marches of last year andrew? Do you not realise Iranians are the core of this problem? Didnt see you standing up for that movement last year. You are totally clueless about this topic andrew.

I see you deleted my comment..... AGAIN . Shame on you

Biased coverage as usual Andrew

Andrew you talk of not being woke and say some actually rational stuff against woke ideology. Youve then titled this video as Andrew Vs. Guest. I didnt see you push back on any of his woke claims.. once. Kind of clickbaited me.... implying i was going to be listening to you push back and challenge bad claims and idea with rationality and you just agreed with everything he said or politely said nothing. Even when he claims Jews run the world. Dude... It depends what day of week it is as to whether youre woke or rational or is it the underwear youre wearing on any particular day as to whether we get woke andrew or rational andrew... What gives?

on the subject of blind spots please look up the palestinian people that have escaped Hamas and will tell you the Truth about what is happening there

You forgot to mention DNA and the effects it has on capabilities which lead to economic success.

@denemessina8601

6 ай бұрын

You could almost call it racial superiority.

@stephenrimbach1311

6 ай бұрын

Different populations have different average IQs is it nature, nurture or genetics. IQs determine the wealth of nations and continents.

Andrew, download and read the 300ish pages of Amnesty International’s Apartheid Report, and the UN Declaration of Apartheid, hell, even old video interviews of Nelson Mandela who I think knows apartheid when he sees it. Then we can talk, because it is spectacularly clear you have no idea what apartheid is and more specifically the actual details of how it is actually carried out in in the occupied territories.

@rorydunne1218

6 ай бұрын

I was raging when I saw his video about how Israel isn't apartheid, how brainwashed can you be. It's an open air concentration camp with no electricity fuel or food now. The constant victim mentality is vomit worthy. Today my phone just showed a news story about how they're saying they could drop a nuke on Gaza. Wtf. They're shooting fish in a barrel and getting mad at the splashes. 🤢

@brynawaldman5790

6 ай бұрын

Palestinians are on the Israeli Supreme Court, in the Knesset, & Muslim Palestinian Israeli citizens vote in elections. This makes Israeli prejudice against Palestinians different from the apartheid of South Africa.

@Hmmm-hmmm

6 ай бұрын

@@rorydunne1218 but how can you not see how the Arab world benefits from the suffering of the Palestinian people not only financially but also as a symbol to flame hatred of Jews and Israel.

@HansCoche

6 ай бұрын

Correct, what apartheid was does not exist in Israel, what the Israelis do is at least a 100 times worse. Apartheid does not exist outside South Africa, it was excusively a South African thing. Was it the right thing to do? With hind sight, no definately not the way it was implemented after HF Verwoerds assassination. So.... To everybody who says Israel has a so-called apartheid state, I say get educated..... Israel has a very violent segregated open prison/consentration camp, the rest is also ruled with extreme oppression and violence. What has Israel done but kill Palistinians destroy their houses, farms, crops and steal their land. Has the apartheid government ever bombed black people witheld food electricity andmedicine or targetted and killed journalists?....No...never. During South African "Apartheid" ; 1) The biggest hospital in Africa was built exclusively for black people only, where they could get operated on for two Rand (todays equivalent of 10p British.) I suspect that was an admin fee.(Baragwanath) 2) Many, many thousands of houses were built for them. 3) Many sports facilities ie pools, football fields and stadiums were built for them. 4) Medical Clinics were built for them. 5) Public Transport like trains and busses were established for them. 6) Schools and various trade learning centres were established. 7) Infrastructure was established where they legally stayed. 8) Black people had the freedom to travel (during troubled times they were limited) 9) Nearly every houshold and farm had black employees, so at least they could eat and pay for exteas required. (Btw on farms ...housing, some clothes and basic food was also supplied) the ANC got rid of that by increasing the minimum wage to such an extent that farmers couldn't afford so many workers anymore, resulting in mass unemployment and the same with domestic workers. 10)There was law and order. Thesedays under the ANC government there is chaos and the difference between a policeman and a criminal is getting harder to distinguish. *All of the above was destroyed or deminished by the black ANC government* Did Israel do any of the above to improve the lives of palistinians....no, they did nothing. The aim of apartheid was to educate and improve the lives of black people so they would have a better life than before 1961 (When HF Verwoerd coined the system as apartheid for the first time) They were offered vast areas (many thousands of sq kilometres of land which was their original homelands) and many $millions but they refused it as its easier to want everything the white man had developed. They did not want independence like Lesotho, Eswatini, Botswana. The British instilled very draconian segregation laws in the early 1900's when SA was still a colony of Britain and it was left to the later government to sort out the mess they inherited. The present ANC ruling party has destroyed the country, doing everything Mandela warned them not to do and as HF Verwoerd predicted. So those referring to Israel as an so-called apartheid state..... *Youre clueless. Here's a black advocate explaing and reminiscing about when apartheid was a better option than our black government we have now. Apartheid was better - Adv. Ike Khumalo kzread.info/dash/bejne/lZ6EsaehfLLAesY.htmlsi=_tzbLRY021KJHQqr

@HansCoche

6 ай бұрын

​@@brynawaldman5790 Apartheid does not exist outside South Africa, it was excusively a South African thing. Was it the right thing to do? With hind sight, no definately not the way it was implemented after HF Verwoerds assassination. So.... To everybody who says Israel has a so-called apartheid state, I say get educated..... Israel has a very violent segregated open prison/consentration camp, the rest is also ruled with extreme oppression and violence. What has Israel done but kill Palistinians destroy their houses, farms, crops and steal their land. Has the apartheid government ever bombed black people witheld food electricity andmedicine or targetted and killed journalists?....No...never. During South African "Apartheid" ; 1) The biggest hospital in Africa was built exclusively for black people only, where they could get operated on for two Rand (todays equivalent of 10p British.) I suspect that was an admin fee.(Baragwanath) 2) Many, many thousands of houses were built for them. 3) Many sports facilities ie pools, football fields and stadiums were built for them. 4) Medical Clinics were built for them. 5) Public Transport like trains and busses were established for them. 6) Schools and various trade learning centres were established. 7) Infrastructure was established where they legally stayed. 8) Black people had the freedom to travel (during troubled times they were limited) 9) Nearly every houshold and farm had black employees, so at least they could eat and pay for exteas required. (Btw on farms ...housing, some clothes and basic food was also supplied) the ANC got rid of that by increasing the minimum wage to such an extent that farmers couldn't afford so many workers anymore, resulting in mass unemployment and the same with domestic workers. 10)There was law and order. Thesedays under the ANC government there is chaos and the difference between a policeman and a criminal is getting harder to distinguish. *All of the above was destroyed or deminished by the black ANC government* Did Israel do any of the above to improve the lives of palistinians....no, they did nothing. The aim of apartheid was to educate and improve the lives of black people so they would have a better life than before 1961 (When HF Verwoerd coined the system as apartheid for the first time) They were offered vast areas (many thousands of sq kilometres of land which was their original homelands) and many $millions but they refused it as its easier to want everything the white man had developed. They did not want independence like Lesotho, Eswatini, Botswana. The British instilled very draconian segregation laws in the early 1900's when SA was still a colony of Britain and it was left to the later government to sort out the mess they inherited. The present ANC ruling party has destroyed the country, doing everything Mandela warned them not to do and as HF Verwoerd predicted. So those referring to Israel as an so-called apartheid state..... *Youre clueless. Here's a black advocate explaing and reminiscing about when apartheid was a better option than our black government we have now. Apartheid was better - Adv. Ike Khumalo kzread.info/dash/bejne/lZ6EsaehfLLAesY.htmlsi=_tzbLRY021KJHQqr

You need to be honest with yourself and get a Palestinian on to explain the other side. I'm shocked at how biased you really are. If Israel and palestine swapped positions i would support israel. Palestinians have been under brutal occupation for 75 years now and there was no hamas yet. Targeting hamas and genocide are 2 different things and israel is committing genocide in front of your eyes. Listen to Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelsteinon on the matter please

@denemessina8601

6 ай бұрын

Well said! of the two I think Finklestein Is the most immediately persuasive. Not Knocking Noam, I love his work but his style is a lot drier., which doesn't bother me personally, but as an introduction to the subject from a different perspective than Andrew is used to, I'd definitely go with Norman.

@Hmmm-hmmm

6 ай бұрын

The Arab world benefits from the ongoing Palestinian suffering as a symbol. If the goal is to actually end Palestinian suffering and not preserve it to flame hatred of Israel and Jews, look to the enormous and powerful Arab world.

@AnonymousCrow

6 ай бұрын

The "brutal occupation" myth is getting old when the motto is "from the river to the sea"

@denemessina8601

6 ай бұрын

And black is white, up is down and the sun is the moon.@@Hmmm-hmmm Only when you go moonbathing, you don't get a sun-tan.

@denemessina8601

6 ай бұрын

@@AnonymousCrow Yes. When people say some words, it's far worse than killing and dispossessing Palestinians for 70 years, illegally expanding your empire, ethnic cleansing and the genocide-in-progress, not to mention flouting international law, earning the condemnation of 18 nations for such savage, arrogant and sadistic behaviour. Indeed, it all pales in comparison to when somebody says some words. Precious.

I’ve stopped watching Andrew Gold. I like the guy but he can’t even acknowledge Israel being an apartheid state. So blinkered. I’ll revisit AG’s vids in the future but I can’t stomach his bias of late.

@AndrewGold1

6 ай бұрын

It's not an apartheid state. The only way you can even make that case is if you're referring to the treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank. The West Bank is not - and nor should it be - part of Israel. By all means, accuse Israel of war crimes - particularly in its failure to address settlers in the West Bank. But you know as well as I do that calling it an apartheid state implies that the country of Israel treats its own civilians differently due to ethnicity or nationhood. This is a country where Arab Israelis are politicians, celebrities and sports players. This is not a defence of everything Israel does. But the term apartheid is used to create a false narrative that paints the only gay-friendly, liberal democracy in the region as racist. Historians can argue all day about who started what. The reality is that right now, Israel is at war with a terrorist-run state whose covenant calls for the extermination of all Jews (go read it). Given I'm one of them, I'm sure I am biased, and I regularly admit as much. Forgive me that. I acknowledge Israel has done a lot wrong. But I'm not going to twist language to make it fit with some Leftist/Far-Right wet dream of Jewish oppressors.

@denemessina8601

6 ай бұрын

@@AndrewGold1 So you have more experience and knowledge than Desmond Tutu when it comes to Apartheid ?He certainly denounced Israel as such a regime. if you won't listen to the U.N how about Tutu? Most Israeli certainly see themselves as separate from the Palestinians and their government obviously do. and that's the basis of the double-standard. Dancing around technicalities doesn't change the fact that so many Palestinians have been denied their homes by illegal gun-toting settlers, that Israel controls Palestine's water supply and electricity, that Israeli settler violence and the IDF kill and/or dispossess hundreds of Gazans every year and that was happening long before the Hamas attack. The last time Palestine tried to peacefully protest , the IDF opened fire on them. Are you really telling me that Palestinians enjoy the same freedoms (including freedom from persecution?) as Israelis? It's not a "false narrative" just because you want it to be. The reality is actually that Israel is a nuclear power, one of the most heavily militarised cultures in the world, one of the best armed and one with the backing of the U.S. The population of Gaza is 50% women and children, because your kin slaughtered most of the men way before this recent attack happened. The two sides are in no way equally matched and for all you go on about "slaughter of every Israeli Jew", your spokespeople from Israel have repeatedly referred to Palestinians as "all nazis" , not "civilians", "animals", "human animals" and have stated that we "need to kill them all" several times......And let's face it, Israel is by far the better equipped of the 2 sides to follow up on this threat. Everything you accuse the Palestinians of, Israel has done ten times over and mostly announced it to the world themselves. These people you have on your show allow you to indulge in a fantasy which makes this all "ok. " But i think Andrew, that deep down, you know that this is wrong and that's why you "doth protest too much". It seems that the dangerous propaganda that you are spreading is also there to quell that still small voice in you that knows, truly knows that this atrocity is barbaric, atavistic, cruel, untrue and on the wrong side of history. You can get people like this guy or Remi to speak , but just because a paradigm is coherent doesn't mean that it is real. Narnia is a pretty damn coherent realm in it's lore but that doesn't mean it's not fiction. Have you ever been in a debating society.? with enough knowledge and a little bending of facts, you can argue any point. you know that. Try it yourself. give yourself 24 hrs to come up with a justification and normalisation for , erm, i don't know..Female circumcision. a horrific practice, but anyone given enough time , knowledge and will can come up with a coherent argument for any horror. It;s just semantics: Map not territory. Similarly you can argue that black is white , up is down and whatever else you want. You can even sound convincing. It doesn't make it true Andrew. It's just wishful thinking. You had it right when you were young. you need to find that boy again. You are preaching hate and genocide but still pretending you can do that and still behave like an educated man. You are too close to this and your lack of objectivity will eventually lead you back to the existential identity crisis that brought you to this point in the first place. You will always love Israel, but you must open your heart to Palestine too. The two things are not as mutually exclusive as Bibi wants you to think. A 2 state solution can happen. an accord for peace can be reached. We did it here with Northern Ireland. wouldnt that be better for all concerned? After all, We face ww3 and no-one wants that. (Apart from maybe Sleepy Joe). To quote my favourite Jew: "Love's the only engine of survival".

@pattydella4

6 ай бұрын

​@@AndrewGold1Andrew, being Jewish, yes, you are biased, but you also happen to be correct on a lot of points on this issue. You seem to be making an honest effort to dig for the truth. I admire you for this.. There are those who will turn on you and abandon you if you are not 100% lock-step with their views. Do not try to cater to them or pander to them. They aren't worth it. Keep doing what you're doing.

@TaminOZZ

6 ай бұрын

😂 oh thank you for letting us all know your not watching by commenting on Andrews video 😂 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ 🤍💙🙏🇮🇱

@devikalambert1674

6 ай бұрын

​@denemessina8601 oh wake up, can comment but you know nothing of history. Israel belongs to the jews from biblical times. Read the book even the koran says that. If you look at archaeology you will see history shows jews lived in Israel since 1800. Israel has one stare Arab has over 22. Israelis left gaza and relocated let their homes etc to give them gaza. They voted in hamas, who robbed its people of fule food resourses etc. Gaza gets so much aid but have done nothing with it. The land was good but it was not maintained. Israel gave free utilise etc. Palastine people should have become self sufficient by now. Hamas took everything including pipework etc and resourses to build tunnels and get weapons rather than look after its people. Hamas leaders live abroad in luxury but leave their people. Hamas have also stated the tunnels are to keep themselves safe not its people, the palastines are refugees and the responsibility of UN. Israel has a right to defend itself. Palastine gave options to have a state but the want 100% that is not going to happen. The koran tells Muslims to get ride of Christians and jews

This is fascinating and important for people to understand! The emotional reactivity stripping complicated situations into black & white (pun intended?) good/bad , oppressor/oppressed . Your channel 8 Inspires brain cell activity 🎉