He’s just a wonderful human, and brilliant actor. Love him.

Garfield has astoundingly amazing roles at the moment. He's just one of the best.

@shubhamgoswami2745

2 жыл бұрын

He took break from acting 🙁

@nancyshe9796

2 жыл бұрын

@@shubhamgoswami2745 no, he didn't. He's just gonna have vacation for a month.

@karenling2106

2 жыл бұрын

under the banner of heaven a new miniseries

@AnaDiaz-wz4cf

2 жыл бұрын

I've watched the first 3 episodios. It's a good series. Andrew is an outstanding actor, should've gotten an Oscar for Hacksaw Ridge

Shut up.. he's British?? Listen...I live in mormonville... He is 100% like all the Mormons that live around me. His acting is unreal.

Andrew has always been consistently great and he should have been nominated for an Oscar back in 2011 for his impressive work in the Social Network.

@adiviswanath

2 жыл бұрын

True shocking he wasn't nominated for that...

andrew is such a genuine person, he’s the best actor in this generations

This is your year Andrew Garfield. And let each year will be your year. 🥰

@nic6975

2 жыл бұрын

His world sis , we just livin in it 😭🙌🏽

@Dan-ty4nb

2 жыл бұрын

It will not be his year because he announced that he will take a break from acting 😔

@nic6975

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dan-ty4nb WHATTTTTTT💀

@Dan-ty4nb

2 жыл бұрын

@@nic6975 Yes in an interview with Variety Andrew said he will take a break after finishing filming the series he is now starring in. 💀

@nic6975

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dan-ty4nb 💀💀 Ok , I’m officially depressed , Thank You Daniel

As an ex LDS I say Andrew was fantastic, he perfectly represented the processs of discovering the truth about the history of Mormon Church.

@winddown4822

2 жыл бұрын

100 percent agree

Such a good series. Learned alot and the entire cast did a wonderful job.

The story is gut wrenching and Andrew Garfield has nailed it. He should've won Emmy for this!

It is truly amazing Andrews acting. He makes if feel like he is really experiencing this. It's incredible the emotion and defying actions he puts Into his work. I can't even explain.he definitely needs an award after this for sure

I adore him and all his films and I can't wait to see this and whatever he does in the future. I love him💕

Dude is a phenomenal actor

He is soo Handsum Andrew Garfield 👏🏼💕💯😎👏🏼💯 love watching his films 🎥

I like this Kid❤❤ smart. Talented. On the right track

Since he's too well-adjusted to say it, I will -- it's Andrew Garfield's world and we're all just living in it.

He cried a lot in this one 😭 Aside from that it was a great binge.

he seems so down to earth

I can not wait I love this type of movies and shows

Am watching “Under the Banner of Heaven” now with first three episodes. Garfield is a remarkable actor performing a difficult role. A man of faith finding conflict with his beliefs and the inherent problem with radical faith and church coverup of its history inflicting wounds upon current generations. I’m not a Mormon but I think he has been respectful of the Mormons while questioning how such evil can exist in the church, and also in its beginnings. I look forward to watching the rest of this series. But I am pretty much of the belief that any church that can order Mountain Meadows Massacre in 1857 is not worthy of respect.

Watched the two episodes yesterday and can't wait for the next... it's exciting and brilliant..

He looks better and better with age ❤

@we.are.all.barabbas

3 ай бұрын

Back then he was cute, now he's hot

idk why i love Andrew

@March2408

2 жыл бұрын

My obsession is real.

@bowdown1463

2 жыл бұрын

@@March2408 sameeeeee im obsessed 😍

Wow I love him so much 🥰🤩😍😍😍😍😍🤩🤩🤩🤩

Sometimes I feel like the interviewers won't even prepare at all for the interview. They are like, " Oh yeah, a guest is here", talk for 2 minutes about his new project, and then go back to asking generic questions. Asking the same questions makes the interaction look worse. Kudos to Andrew Garfield btw who has been doing a great job.

One of the best showed hands down.

I think it's the year of Andrew Garfield. His fab performances in tik tik boom, eyes of Tammy fae , under the banner of heaven and Spiderman are testimony to that.

@we.are.all.barabbas

3 ай бұрын

Don't forget Silence and Social Network, he's so so good

That’s right Andrew own that bro 😎 , it’s my year

in all the years ive watched this fantastic actor, never knew he speaks with an english accent! just wikied him turns out raised in england.

Andrew Garfield ❤️😍🤤🥰

Talented and absolutely gorgeous

so beautiful

What a great series and performance!

Andrew Garfield…wow! Just WOW!

❤️🍀♾🌻🙏he’s my favorite superhero and I truly love him❤️

andrew garfield is amazing. but I SWEAR TO GOD if i have to hear him talk about the game werewolf ONE MORE TIME - i may just lose it.

im exmormon, ive been through the temple, and from the clips ive seen of this show it’s pretty accurate portrayal. excited to watch the show!

Sensational actor

The mafia analogy 😂😂😂

All the active members of the LDS church say this is not accurate. All the ex-mormons say it’s super accurate. Just shows how much is really hidden from the active members. They don’t know any better. As an ex mormon this is one of the best shows i’ve seen and yes it has some over the top stuff for hollywood but for the most part it’s extremely accurate to what mormonism is based on and this show is truly a love letter to ex mormons. Our trauma is valid. And andrew does an amazing job at portraying that inner battle with his faith crisis

@magicwithliv6606

2 жыл бұрын

@@choosethewright7652 this is very accurate to the TIME in the 80s. And just because YOU don’t talk like that doesn’t mean that other mormons do. or DID. The temple ceremonies are completely accurate. they took the slash your throat part out after this murder took place matter of fact. I’ve been a mainstream mormon for over 22 years. just recently left and it was awful learning about the churches real history. It’s so hard. yes mormons now a days are for the most party pretty nice but like i said, you don’t know hardly any of the churches real history because you are taught to avoid it and take anything that’s not directly from the churches website as “anti mormon literature” when it’s literally just fact. Mormonism IS a cult. wake up.

@magicwithliv6606

2 жыл бұрын

@@choosethewright7652 your proving mine. that you don’t know any better and won’t try to learn more. Ex mormons aren’t allowed to talk about what they have gone through. And any time we do, we are shut down by active members. This is a way of trying to silence victims of trauma. ex mormons don’t lie. Why would we lie about what we went through and what we learned? We don’t have anything to gain. We’ve been through enough being outcasts of our community. We aren’t attacking the church. We are trying to heal. For a church that “loves unconditionally” it’s pretty messed up to always play the victim. This show has a beautiful message and they did an amazing job. stop being defensive about it.

@aaronjjj5763

2 жыл бұрын

@@magicwithliv6606 😂😂😂

@endertobias1908

2 жыл бұрын

They say it's not accurate of the Normal church experiences

@KidsandKittens217

2 жыл бұрын

@@endertobias1908 As regarding the culture in Utah Valley in the 1980s it is quite accurate. The only things that are a little over-the-top are calling each other Brother and Sister in secular situations (usually not the habit unless you are personally very close to the person or currently going through a trauma). And it was unlikely then for a devout Mormon to have a picture of Joseph Smith on their desk. But having a picture of Joseph Smith on the wall at home is something that was quite common, and still is today. The reenactment of the Temple ceremonies are quite accurate as to what they were like in the 1980s. Lots of Mormons need to express their outrage that their secret ceremonies are being shown in a mainstream media production. Thus, they claim it is "not accurate." They need to convince people Mormons in history really didn't do these things, but THEY DID! They hope to dissuade people from watching the series with claims of "being mean" to Mormons. What do you think of these important questions?: 1) Should we not tell the truth about a particular religion because it might hurt the feelings of people in a particular religion who don't want the violent leanings of their faith exposed? 2) Should we not explore the reasons that religious murderers commit murder for fear of offending those who want to believe that way?

Wow I just watched the tv show. I totally forgot he was english that's how great his American accent was in the show.

Fantastic series 👏

Can't wait to see this show, and Billy Howle star alongside Andrew Garfield as well! Check out our profile with Billy!

How on earth have none of them heard of mafia?

I’m on episode 4 and I can truly say it’s become one of my favorite series. It’s truly so gripping and Andrew is absolutely brilliant

awww he called it mafia.. that's what i called it growing up lol

I’m seeing a ton of people saying “I’m a Mormon and this show sucks” alongside people saying “I’m not a Mormon and this is a beautiful show” I will say, I’m a member of the church, and I think the show is great! Do I think it’s an accurate portrayal of my beliefs? No, the focus of the show is radical fundamentalists, people who I wouldn’t even consider to be members of this church. And even at the root of the Mormon fundamentalism, they lose focus on the most fundamental truths in Mormon belief, which is to love God and love your neighbor. (And let’s not forget the whole “judge not” stuff, which those fundamentalists seemed to forget completely.) But on the positive side, Andrew Garfield did an incredible acting job so far in the series, the story is compelling, and no matter how much it makes me cringe when people randomly quote long-form scripture in conversation (which I have never heard done in my life) the actors each clearly cared about the project, and it shows.

@yoursolemnstridermusic1992

2 жыл бұрын

Mormons hate their history because it’s all bullshit

@eddieescalante3240

2 жыл бұрын

Agree completely I’m a member and I actually enjoyed this show thus far

@KC.801

2 жыл бұрын

I grew up mormon and people quote the book all the time 😂

@jivajenmoreno-adams9984

2 жыл бұрын

I grew up LDS, born at BYU, an ex now. In my late 50s. My family of org still members. Many things have changed and my niece and nephews are being taught a different history. Endowments did have blood atonement gestures, dark skin was “the mark of Cain”, “ “patriarchal rule” was used as a power move to we girls, Dad was “King of the castle” and if you “obey” a Priesthood Leader’s request (even if a sin) Elohim would hold the Elder in sin (not us) (this one alone was used on 3 friends who’s Dad’s molested them. Know your History Kolobians

@eddieescalante3240

2 жыл бұрын

@@jivajenmoreno-adams9984 I go to the temple on a weekly basis and I also am Hispanic meaning my skin isn’t white and none of those things have happened I don’t speak on behalf on the extremist making this stuff up but no I’ve been active for 15 years that has not happened

It’s astonishing and scary how accurate Garfield nails Mormon culture, vernacular and mannerisms

@morningstoke

2 жыл бұрын

I've been saying the same thing. As an ex-mormon, he reminds me sooo much of people I met in the church and on my mission (other missionaries, mission president). Even facial expressions and body language. Fucking incredible job.

@coffeedrinkingisnotasin6049

2 жыл бұрын

I am also ex-mormon I was a 6th generation mormon and my family is still mormon. The way they talk annoys me. Mormons don't say Heavenly Father that much. The way they talk in general is weird. My brother went to BYU and currently lives in Utah. He does not talk like that.

@morningstoke

2 жыл бұрын

@@coffeedrinkingisnotasin6049 Everyone I've heard say they were from that part of Utah in the '80s says that heavenly father was used more frequently back then and in that area. They were trying to fit the era and culture then. I also didn't hear heavenly father used a lot when I was Mormon, if ever aside from a primary song.

@coffeedrinkingisnotasin6049

2 жыл бұрын

@@morningstoke Cardon is a Mormon apologist from Saints Unscripted and he said he lived in Utah in the 80's and nobody talks like that.

@morningstoke

2 жыл бұрын

@@coffeedrinkingisnotasin6049 Interesting, this is the only time I've heard that. Multiple comments have said otherwise. I also tend to be leery of anything said by a Mormon apologist. They also try to justify the Book of Abraham a lot of the time

He's even more sexy with his normal accent!!

Wait he’s British!! He’s such a good actor!!🤯

@astralplainer

2 жыл бұрын

Born in LA.

Literally my husband

Mike King is the only person who has been allowed to interview Lafferty. He has a channel. He will be following and commenting on the series. Search for: Under the Banner of Heaven the Real Scoop | Profiling Evil. I find it interesting that the producers did not interview the only person who has access to the murderers. You would think they would want that deep insight. Unless they just have their own agenda.

@KidsandKittens217

2 жыл бұрын

I watched it. What a total waste of time that was. He was really unprofessional. So from the way you talk you are treating the murderer like a Celebrity. It looks like Mike King knew that if he got access early on to the murderer that he could make a living off of being "the ONLY one who has access." After listening to him, I really think we need impartial scientific data regarding that man.

@Foghorn-tr1je

2 жыл бұрын

They did interview Dan. Ron is dead so that is not possible. They also talked with Allen and Brenda’s family. Her family gave them letters she wrote.

@krisbingham5592

Жыл бұрын

Not true - Dustin Lance Black has had several meetings with him.

He >>>>>

ah-He’s British…that explains the interesting accent the character has…pretty good really! Most Brits cannot do any American accent. Either way-the movie was excellent and he is a grade A actor. No I haven’t seen him in anything else. I’ll have to check out spiderman.

As an ex-Mormon, I’m so happy you are helping to tell this story.

@dobbysboggart6883

2 жыл бұрын

As a continuing Latter-day Saint, I hope people understand that a couple criminals don't reflect what most of us are about.

@GMoney-B

2 жыл бұрын

@@dobbysboggart6883 once people leave the church it seems like they all suddenly get the biggest chip on their shoulder and towards members of the church even though he extremists are the smallest of small number of people and when most all members are just regular and extremely nice people.

@carolynharmon1078

2 жыл бұрын

Poor detective, getting pulled down that, history of the church rabbit hole! Never gonna come out the same. I remember the "wars" going on and Brenda and her daughter's murders and the equally twisted conclusion of the story. Creepy fact..... The murders occurred on, of all days, "Pioneer Day" July 24! Did anyone else catch the comment that the Lafferty's were the "Utah Kennedy's. Better add the Kingston's under them and the Warren's at the top of this Jacked Up family 🌳.

@carolynharmon1078

2 жыл бұрын

Oops! Meant to say The Jeff's, not Warren's.

@KidsandKittens217

2 жыл бұрын

@@dobbysboggart6883 Since these boys were raised to go along with violence, don’t you think it had an effect on them? because as adults, they did commit murder.

You implanted doubt so job well done

In the 21st Century it is surprising to see such reductive stereotyping of an entire community. Banner is click-bait.

Excellent series already. Christian extremism needs to be covered and represented. Good bad ugly indifferent more stories need to be portrayed☮️

@redstateforever

2 жыл бұрын

Mormons aren’t Christians.

I wonder what really draws Andrew Garfield to play religious characters I don't know

I'm exmo and the show is INCREDIBLE. Does a great job at representing how Mormons interact with one another, not just outside people

@Heartsinmelody

2 жыл бұрын

Really?

@huffdaddy3845

2 жыл бұрын

@@Heartsinmelody Yep, I'm another exmo and it's pretty accurate.

@Heartsinmelody

2 жыл бұрын

@@huffdaddy3845 sorry, no one talked like that in the 80s. It has potential, but misses the mark in some areas. Great casting though. Cheers

@ky4864

2 жыл бұрын

@@Heartsinmelody Idk? I was in Provo in the eighties. I don’t see it missing the mark except for how often they say “Heavenly Father” but other that that it seems pretty accurate. What are you referring to?

@KidsandKittens217

2 жыл бұрын

@@Heartsinmelody “No one”? perhaps you don’t realize it, but aren’t you thus claiming that you were with every person alive in the 80s and no one talked like that? What is it specifically that’s bothering you?

I live in St. George, Utah. We moved here in 96. I've never known much about Mormonism. We always thought a variety of things. My husband was saying there would be no way he would marry else when I'm a bit of a handful lol. After we were here for about a year, we learned a lot more about it. .What we were thinking was the FLDS. Which is what the Lefferts's were. We live in the area where Warren Jeff was. My family goes to a Baptist Church in St. George. One of the ladies we met when we first moved here was filling us in on how things go around us. When the book "Under the Banner of Heaven" came out we couldn't find it anywhere. I ended up having to pick a copy up when I went to visit family in Arizona. There wasn't any book stores except the ones that are run by Mormons. We've been here since 1996 and we love it here. It was pretty difficult for a few years. Our daughters was in high school when we first moved here. It took a year for them to make friends since they weren't LDS. We've never gone to any of their services or other things. It was a huge learning curve. We've never regretted moving here. When I finally got a copy of the book, I bought a few more so people at church's could read it if they want. When my friends that are Mormons see the book on the shelves, they were uncomfortable. They never asked to borrow one. I have a lot of friends were Mormons and I've learned so much more that shocked me in many ways. If they ask something or if they can look through the book, they had a weird look on their face. The show is really good. I've been waiting to watch it. I wonder if there will ever be a show about the mountain meadows massacre's.

hey isn't that sarah lynns ex boyfriend??

It is too bad how inaccurate the series is about the events and people involved. What a waste of such a good actor.

@KidsandKittens217

2 жыл бұрын

@Luke Steele Could you elaborate? What is it that is inaccurate about the events and the people involved? Is there anything presented in the series that is inaccurate about the history of the Mormon Church?

@lukesteele4510

2 жыл бұрын

@@KidsandKittens217 Since this is a crime that when I was young and seemed a little off from what I remembered I investigated looking for actual accounts of the case. Also being very well versed in Mormon history the flash backs also seemed off. Based on public interviews with family and people involved many people especially the Laufferty perpetrators and victims where sometimes subtly sometimes grossly mischaracterized. There was not Waco like event as depicted. The history flashbacks also took lots of liberties with events attributing some things to Joseph, Brigham and others which they didn't do and giving narrative moving characterizations of people involved in the history backs which were both prejudicial and inaccurate. In total from what I saw the only accurate thing about the show was the directors intent to tell a certain story regardless of accurate facts about those real people involved, hence why he needed some fictional characters to move the narrative and which moved it clumsily for me.

@lukesteele4510

2 жыл бұрын

@@KidsandKittens217 After replying earlier I ran across this recording of the actual investigation by the Officer in charge. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mJabyLB8nKu0e9o.html

@lukesteele4510

2 жыл бұрын

@God Look I lived through this event, and the series was way off on its portrayal. In addition the responses of people who were intimately involved in the investigation and with the family tell a far different story. At best this series is a fantasy based around an event, kind of an elseworlds which was poorly rendered. The film maker was simply spitting out his own bias as fact and doing a poor job of it. In reality it is about as accurate as Abraham Lincoln vampire hunter. Andrew Garfield really is a talented actor, but he was wasted in this series, and it had the potential to be a riveting suspense series if they had stuck to the facts and not tried to push their agenda so clumsily.

I liked the show. I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We prefer not to be called by the name of a man, Mormon, but prefer disciples of Jesus Christ. The show brings up some topics sensitive to some, but we believe God is the source of truth, and He will not tell us anything that goes against revealed doctrines. The missionaries from the Church taught me I could pray to God independent of a priest or preacher. That gave me faith to pray to Him always, and each time I trusted an answer from Him in faith, I learn how to be more humble, patient, kind, submissive, open, welcoming, accepting, loving, and loyal. Each answer brings me closer to my goal of being like Jesus Christ, which means pure love for all. I still have a long journey filled with pain and sadness; but there is joy in the journey.

What will happen if a person leaks their secrets about a potential cameo in the MCU? It's almost as if the powers that be at Disney and Sony might slit his throat if he says anything. What a bunch of cultists over in MCU land

Great actor, but that book was a complete hatchet job and this series is even worse, This is not a deep dive into LDS history,

@carolynharmon1078

2 жыл бұрын

Rabbit holes

@ky4864

2 жыл бұрын

Which part do you find inaccurate? I’m asking as a seventh generation Mormon? I see small inaccuracies in both book and show, but for the most part I find it accurate. What has you disillusioned?

Not an accurate portrayal of true Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saint culture and beliefs, but there will always be extremists in every religion.

@KidsandKittens217

2 жыл бұрын

@Jessica Black Hi Jessica, Could you please tell us what it is in the series that is not an accurate portrayal of your church's beliefs?

most of been fun to work on an ex-mormon's fan fiction.

Love Andre Garfield, it is just too bad that this story is not based on the actual facts of the case nor does it represent the actual true history of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

@nancyshe9796

2 жыл бұрын

You LDS trolls copy and paste one and the same text everywhere in internet 🤣 maybe even Lafferty brothers never existed and didn't kill Brenda and Erika, huh?

@KidsandKittens217

2 жыл бұрын

@Kelleyn Rothaermel What is it in the history of the church that is incorrect in the show?

Mormons. 😂

Sure no bias here from 2 people one that is anti religion and an apostate. Handled "sensitively" you have to be joking.

@GMoney-B

2 жыл бұрын

Who are you talking about? Andrew Garfield and who else?

@carolynharmon1078

2 жыл бұрын

Oh Ruth!! You pulled the apostate card! You just made your comment creepy!!

@carolynharmon1078

2 жыл бұрын

@@GMoney-B The creater of this series, his last name is Black. Ruth stamped the scarlet A on him

@KidsandKittens217

2 жыл бұрын

What is it you find unsensitive in the fist 2 episodes?

As a current member of the Church, this series does an absolutely horrible job portraying our beliefs as they're actually taught. The church didn't turn those two men into murderers, those men did it themselves. The fact that that's being portrayed as normal Mormonism is horrible. And yes, I recognize that there MANY MANY problems within our religion, but come on🤦‍♂️ Oh btw, the creator of the show was raised Mormon and seems very bitter about it all... If that doesn't tell you what he's trying to do here then I don't know what will.

@farmgirl768

2 жыл бұрын

The series just based it on the book.

@ky4864

2 жыл бұрын

It’s meant to be about Mormon fundamentalism, not the mainstream church. Also, did you watch the show? It very much shows the Lafferty brothers’ train of thought and shows that it’s not the “norm” for regular members (like Garfield’s character). But current Mormons should know that Brigham Young absolutely taught and performed blood atonement, which is why it’s relatively common in Fundamentalist Mormon groups. Sorry it’s uncomfortable, but that doesn’t make it untrue.

These murderers are extreme fundamentals and not representative of the Mormon faith.

@ky4864

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, that’s true. But it’s important to know that Brigham young absolutely did teach blood atonement, which is where fundamentalists get the idea. The mainstream church has gone away from the roots, but it’s important to recognize that it’s not “anti-Mormon” just because some facts of history are uncomfortable. These extremist groups have some doctrinal legs to stand on, unfortunately.

This in no way "deep dives into mormonism" it's a totally inaccurate representation as A member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints myself born and raised Utahn I cannot relate to this in the slightest, and I don't know anyone that could just saying.

@nancyshe9796

2 жыл бұрын

You didn't watch the show did you?

@skylerdumas8331

2 жыл бұрын

As an exmormon I think it’s creepy accurate sometimes. I know people who are like this

@nancyshe9796

2 жыл бұрын

@@skylerdumas8331 that's what I'm reading on Twitter from ex-Mormons and people who have friends among LDS Church members. That Lafferty family really looks like they could be their neighbors, they are absolutely recognizable.

@ky4864

2 жыл бұрын

1) this is a look at Mormon Fundamentalism. Mainstream Mormons are just conditioned to see it as an attack because it’s critical. But it’s really not about the church as it is today, but about the history and why it creates extremists. 2) some things are simplified or distilled for simplicity’s sake. For example, the show runners know that BYU is in Provo, not SLC, but they said SLC instead because it’s more familiar to audiences. I grew up Mormon in the 1980s in Provo. The only thing I’m finding inaccurate is the overuse of the term “heavenly father.” The history of Joseph Smith, blood atonement, and all the other doctrine are true. What is it you’re finding specifically inaccurate?

@JonathanHarker7523

2 жыл бұрын

I’m Exmo and was raised in Utah. Maybe your experiences were a bit different but this show was accurate to the point of being scary to me.

oh he is sitting amongst some of the world’s real liars…evil is on that stage with him right now…

Being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and watching the first episode it was sickening to watch the false, over-the-top way it portrayed the church and it's members. The church or it's teaching didn't cause these men to be murders, the men caused themselves to be murderers. But it's not portrayed that way. It's just another extension of the war on religion.

@DavidNellTheHarbinger

2 жыл бұрын

It was really awful

@carolynharmon1078

2 жыл бұрын

The way they present the detectives life, behavior and family, like they are typical mormons bugged me! Most movies and shows always make us kinda creepy and weird. My thoughts, if one takes a deep dive in any churches beginning or history.... There is some ugly, strange AF things that make no sense at all. See'er stones, sticking your face in a hat, Polygamy Emma Smith's age? I mean, come on.

@davidfrey5654

2 жыл бұрын

@@carolynharmon1078 True that all religions have some strange sounding stuff. But I mean...."See'er Stones" = Language Translation Mobile App, "Sticking your face in a hat." = Sticking your face into an iphone, Emma Smiths age = arranged marriages. When we look around in 2022 we see a lot of weird stuff that some modern day people find normal.

@DavidNellTheHarbinger

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidfrey5654 Bingo, Dollars ro donuts the screenwriter did not read Brian or Laura Hales work on the age issues and eternity only, dynastic family linking uses for eternal polygamy practiced in the beginning.

@carolynharmon1078

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidfrey5654 I kinda think the see'er stones to iphones comparison is a lonnggg stretch even 👼 Moroni couldn't make happen. Many thing about the past and current stances just don't line up for me. My dad's fam has a restored homestead right smack dab in Nauvoo. Made the big trip to Utah where my 2× great grandpa dodged the US Marshals for having too many wives!! 😆

Great actor but show is awkward in its piss on Mormonism.

@jamesdunning8650

2 жыл бұрын

Pissing on religion is a good thing.

@cinnamondan4984

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesdunning8650 Why do you have animosity towards religions?

@jamesdunning8650

2 жыл бұрын

@@cinnamondan4984 Religion adds another layer to the human phenomenon of tribes. One more reason to hate someone.

@cinnamondan4984

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesdunning8650 That is one facet.

Sorta lost respect for Andrew for this role. Just makes me sad that someone who I watched as a kid and continued watching is a part of something that, not only insults me, but the rest of my people too

@KidsandKittens217

2 жыл бұрын

@Place Holder What are you talking about?

@placeholder6357

2 жыл бұрын

@@KidsandKittens217 Under the Banner of Heaven was written by a man trying to prove that "religion makes people inherently violent". Then fabricated a bunch of stuff about the murders, using someone's horrible death to try and prove a devaluing point. The show itself continues this, tries to prove the Church and its members as oddball pariahs, sexists, and violent. Not to mention it shows off sacred Temple ceremonies, something that isn't to be recorded because of its sacredness. It's jut sad to see

@drewwhitney7327

2 жыл бұрын

How has the show insulted our people? So far it has gotten Mormonism with an almost 100% accuracy. In fact it’s shedding light on things many current Mormons would otherwise have no clue about like blood atonement and the way the temple used to be different.

@placeholder6357

2 жыл бұрын

@@drewwhitney7327 1. Showed sacred Temple scenes 2. Tries to portray us as an odd out group (saying brother and sister constantly even in professional settings, constantly saying Heavenly Father, etc 3. A man legit says "something about this Faith breeds dangerous people 4. Weird subliminal music to try and make you creeped out whenever Joseph Smith is on screen 5. The book it's based on is a dishonest portrayal of a murder case to prove that religion makes people violent, so it's also offensive to just anyone of Faith as a whole And the stuff where it is super inaccurate 1. Incorrect portrayal of dates 2. Incorrect portrayal of history (i.e. Joseph Smith making up the First Vision Account to impress Emma. The First Vision occurred in 1820, he met Emma Hale in 1826) 3. They say BYU is in Salt Lake City, or allude to it being there, it's in Provo This is all I could think of right now and because I haven't finished watching the show. I will give credit though, the Hauns Mill massacre was portrayed as it should be, a horrible and honest showing of the consequence of persecution given to my people

@placeholder6357

2 жыл бұрын

Our people*

Main stream media is a joke. Completely out of touch with reality. This show is a joke.

@jonv1776

2 жыл бұрын

But... Is it a joke?

@KidsandKittens217

2 жыл бұрын

@Ralphydc What is it about the show that you find is "a joke"? Doesn't look like anything to laugh about to me.

Really disappointed in him. This show makes no effort to distinguish between the different sects of Mormonism instead lumping them all together in an effort to perpetuate hurtful stereotypes and misconceptions. Andrew Garfield is playing a leading roll in tearing down minority already taking crap on a near daily basis. And he’s so proud of it too.

@nancyshe9796

2 жыл бұрын

You DEFINITELY didn't watch the show.

@KidsandKittens217

2 жыл бұрын

What? Are you claiming you are taking crap on a daily basis? In what way? And which sects of Mormonism is this show not distinguishing between?

@JonathanHarker7523

2 жыл бұрын

Did you actually watch the show? It makes it clear that it’s about Fundamentalist Mormonism.

His acting in this is not good. He is so over the top with the facial expressions and body language. Sorry.