Heart asked. Intellect answered.

You don't know what love is Until you've learned the meaning of the blues Until you've loved a love you've had to lose You don't know what love is .. Billie Holiday

@nika-zq9ph

2 жыл бұрын

"when there is two the love is out "-U.G))

The extasy and the urgency is the SAME as love... 😇😇

I love lamp. Okay, but really, a very wonderful video. Great hearing these two talk together. They really compliment each other.

Absolute knowledge like power corrupts absolutely.

Both these gentlemen are very learned and most certainly giving it their all with this question- yet love cannot be explained through the mind. A small child smiling, without intellectual abstraction, knows what love is. Love IS, and that is all.

@brentnevius2849

2 жыл бұрын

that is a pre trans fallacy.

Service is love in action...

Resonates with me. what I wanted was cozy love, what I got was infinite healing love. My first reaction was disappointment. First step to this second stage of unity.

Amazing! Could this be what I have been looking for lately.

@johannesnicolaas

9 жыл бұрын

Dear Jacintha, I have to give a warning here. Andrew Cohen had to stop being a teacher \ guru because he was (psychological) violent against his pupils. So some can say the most beautiful things but not do it themselves. So be careful. Greetings from a sunny Holland.

"True love is the spontaneous outflow, of a loving heart and an intelligent mind..." Djwhal Khul

If someone cannot live the truth of his teachings, one questions whether he should be teaching at all. The allegations against Cohen are substantial and serious.

@buddhaneosiddhananda8499

3 жыл бұрын

Trust your own intuition, rather than the opinions of others...

@brentnevius2849

2 жыл бұрын

Biden raped Tara Reade, and look at him now!

Most people don't realise, we are more than just physical bodies..,

Always great to see these two guys together!.

@buildflow Amen. We bow down before you. "The truth is unknown in this world", as you say, yet you've got it. Wow.

Meditation makes you more loving... if you do it right...

God is love... yoga is the method of reuniting with God... to feel good, is to be in touch with the God of love...

I didn't listen to this talk, but it's interesting how people get so hot and bothered whenever a guru fucks up. It's true that Andrew left a trail of lost souls with his abuse and should hold himself accountable. Maybe he owes something to the students who devoted the deepest, most sacred part of themselves for many years. They made their spiritual aspirations revolve around him; lots of people here are making their spiritual cynicism revolve around him. It's not about Andrew or the other "gurus" who were abusive. It's about embracing the calling inside and seeing the potential we humans carry in our hearts. Trust THAT, not gurus, not belief systems. We should have learned by now what happens when people are put on pedestals or branded as monsters. Both are equally delusional!

@georgmenath

3 жыл бұрын

what did he do such that lost souls were abused? really curious to know. just ordered his book 'evolutionary enlightenment' and now i am hearing some unnice stuff about him, but dont know why

@buddhaneosiddhananda8499

3 жыл бұрын

True gurus will try to guide you, to get rid of all the beliefs system you have, and replace them with the truth....

@buddhaneosiddhananda8499

3 жыл бұрын

@@georgmenath The best thing he has to say in his book, is "face everything, avoid nothing."

10:55 That micro-correction and little peek at ken made me burst out laughing.

Two hyper masculine talking heads talking, conceptualizing, dissecting, this deeply intuitive, holistic aspect of the human heart.

@MrDanielWeir

3 жыл бұрын

I'm inclined to agree. These are not things knowable to the talking mind. We grasp at pattern. It's not just pattern.

_"Today, millions of people in America and Europe try to find contact with tradition and with teachers who can show them the way. But in large part the doctrines and teachers are either fraudulent, or vitiated by the spirit of public relations ballyhoo, or mixed up with the financial and prestige interests of the respective gurus. Some people may genuinely benefit from such methods in spite of the sham; others will apply them without any serious intention of inner change. But only a detailed quantitative and qualitative analysis of the new believers could show how many belong to each group"_ Fromm, Erich (2013-02-26). To Have or To Be? (Continuum Impacts) (pp. 75-76). Open Road Media. Kindle Edition.

@buddhaneosiddhananda8499

3 жыл бұрын

There are many false prophets...

Baby don't hurt me.

@boleroinferno

10 жыл бұрын

I was looking for you. And I'm glad I found you

@Psyolopher

9 жыл бұрын

First thing I thought when I saw the title. -_- Damn it, I wanted to make that comment. lol

@FreekeeChakra

5 жыл бұрын

That's an appropriate theme song for Cohen. Don't hurt me no mo'!

Ken is without doubt addressing a western oriented public, it is of a high intellectual interest, but after having watching several videos, do you feel any personal change? Eastern real Gurus don't even need to speak to the truth seekers, their presence alone is cleaning your heart, well, both ways are part of the Spiritual process...

@raymondleemeadows4969

7 жыл бұрын

Ken is trying to integrate eastern spirituality with western academia.

I read the book Grace and Grit, written bij ken Wilber. It has being written by him and his wife, when she got breast cancer. it is highly recommendable, because it gives a lot of information about the process of cancer, until the end.

Love is two made as one.

There's a lot of good philosophy in Wilber's work. Granted this nonsense he does with Cohen is pretty pedantic, but his technical works are remarkably accurate, intelligible and critical.

baby don't hurt me don't hurt me no more

Holy shit... why does his ring keep moving from left to right??

Watch the first 8+ minutes. Notice the jumps and Ken's ring switching from finger to finger. This appears to be a single continuous talk by Ken...but it is not. It has been put together from at least two separate talks. So although Ken speaks all the words, he did not speak them in the order presented hear; and may not have intended the sense rendered here either.

@rogersims9162

10 жыл бұрын

Just the camera angle, friend. It's mirrored on close-up for some reason, you can see his watch stays on the same side as his ring, and his microphone "swaps" lapel as well. Same talk. Some edits. Context and continuity likely preserved.

I would love to see JP Sears just hug ken Wilber. no special reason. just a loving hugs.

19:06 Andrew is absolutely right. Deeply enlightened people do care a lot about others' pain. It's pretty ironic cuz he understood this and yet he was still very abusive and indifferent to others' pain. I hope he's changed though.

@georgmenath

3 жыл бұрын

what has he done? i am hearing so many critizing him but I dont know for why. i am really curious mate

@bruhmoment3731

3 жыл бұрын

@@georgmenath he abused his students a lot. had a huge ego problem. look up "Andrew Cohen cult" or "Andrew Cohen abuse"

we're just love. let's not get distracted otherwise

the watch switches too. they decided to flip the video on closeups i guess

so we can start to synthesize all of the knowledge we have about the world, develop as minds, practise meditation ? You know, the good stuff

@Pedantish Ya he's quite ill according to a uber-Wilberite I know. I wish him well, but agree with your comments totally.

Have U watched Bashar/Darryl Anka videos? Is he easy to understand? For me, Ken is difficult to understand probably b/c I'm not ready for his information yet. I can understand Bashar tho. Love Bashar, so straight out and blunt and funny.

@Pedantish Defines "Baffle them with Bullshit."

@BrinnaNanda realizing that the I AM exists, call it Bodhi, higher self, god, whilst realizing our highest drive toward Enlightenment, despite what objects are impinging on us. Deconstructing and recognizing the truth of impermanence of all conditioned objects - ourselves included physically, however, recognizing that Consciousness exists outside of this space / time / material / objective reality. I think it has been shown by particle physics that all matter has consciousness

5:17 "shit like that" lol

Let's face it, most people live in a basic level of existential confusion... so much confusion..!

After this, do you have a better understanding of "love"? No. It's just a cluster bomb of vacuous syntax.

@bob40179

4 жыл бұрын

What did you expect? They were asked to speak about love...

Can we live in both? Be driven by the agape towards ever new creation AND heal our deepest selves through eros?

baby dont hurt me, dont hurt me, no more.

1:50 probably the funniest part

Why resist? :)

??* Strange* Kens Ring~ Changes hands (Left/Right) Anyone else notice ? Why How?... now that i have mentioned it~ i will continue Watching & Listing~Really Enjoy Have Books /Tapes & such...! ;)

EVERYONE ~love is nothing but addiction~ short and simple

@buddhaneosiddhananda8499

3 жыл бұрын

So many opinions, so little truth.

I dont think i agree with the concept of holons. The superset is equal to the total number of subsets. The superset isnt its own panentheistic-like separate transcendent entity from the parts. It is literally equal to its parts and therefore an implicit aapect of its parts and vice versa.

Baby don't hurt me...

@mkno79 Howz eet werkin fur U?

Love isn't A biggie, it's THE biggie.

Some of these phony teachers, if they didn’t have any ego, they’d disappear. Nothin’ left. Sooner they’re egoless, the better I’ll like it.

Or should I say, LIVING humans.

Wilber has this weird karmic association with Mr, Narcissistic Cohen...a real blind spot.

@squamish4244

7 жыл бұрын

Cohen has fallen at last...in the digital age you can't get away with his Trungpa-level shenanigans.

@FreekeeChakra

5 жыл бұрын

Pretty much anyone Wilber endorses is probably up to hijinks. Before Cohen it was Ladi Da de da. How can someone so intelligent be such a poor judge of character?

@allanhall7483

5 жыл бұрын

So all your friends are perfect ?

@allanhall7483

5 жыл бұрын

@@FreekeeChakra Simply just incorrect.

@michaelnice93

5 жыл бұрын

Listening to Wilber is what derailed AC. Consciousness does not evolve. Andrew was ok back when he was hammering on people's egos like they were drums. He was a jerk with a hella weird laugh but hey he was easy to get. A drill instructor for Enlightenment boot camp is his niche I say. Grow back the mustache bigger and wear a military uniform, just embrace his jerky side. He can't hide it. Ditch the shtick of trying to transform the world by dispensing imaginary glittering generalizations. He's oozing contempt and robotically groping his way onto a platform. Maybe now that he's desperate the globalists will dig him. Macho man with the plan. He was the one of the first in a avalanche of brainwashed weirdos talking on stages with flowers, pretending to be enlightened. Then AC started chasing some fantasy- a bunch of cooked up crap. The evolution of consciousness- HA! Authentic teaching states consciousness never really changes. It is the forms which change. Just like the Phoenix form AC is changing into now.

What the Hell is Cohen talking about?! Dear oh dear

@evaw551

8 жыл бұрын

+Waqar Siraj I still don't know listening to him

@precoprecocious8087

7 жыл бұрын

Waqar Siraj Spiritual love

How do you wake up to non duality? Don't you need duality to know anything?

But that's b/c were not Masters yet.. We obviously need to grow up still after all these years on Earth.

@supralee or so the entertainment industry has taught you.

My chubby friend managed to make the best pole dancer I’ve seen in my life fall for him as he used the Cupid Love System (Google it). It’s bad but I wish I’d been excited for him but I dream a beautiful individual would fall for me like that. I am seriously envious. Does that make me a horrible human being?

Love, love - could you guys just lighten up with your story about love? Sort of like a story of Jesus by Tim Freke: "Gospel of the Second Coming". His website has his great stand up about it.

It is not an unusual thing to possess that which isn’t found in this world, even Jesus said he was a king, but not of this world. He too possessed plenty of that which isn’t found in this world.

@supralee my gf and i have been studying stuff like this (not these guys) and she can bend a stainless steal spoon into a corkscrew. she isn't a weight lifter, doesn't have a kung fu grip, and she's not a ninja. she did something neither me or my weight-lifter friend could do. she bent that sh*t into a corkscrew. I know you can't believe anything like that until you see it. but all u need is love. and it's mastering what these apparent d-bags are speaking about. shit's not normal but it's real.

Wtf? When did Wilber turn into yoda?

@johnman1911 if your jealous of women, your aspirations arnt high enough

With all due respect, the answer is convoluted and incorrect, nevertheless great considering the obvious lack of understanding when it comes to the foundational reality before time. Speculation and extrapolation is all that is available when depending upon the known empirical and theoretical facts. The truth is unknown in this world and can only be accessed and understood after accepting the reality of duality.

@MonkeyMind27 he has a serious health issue that is slowly killing him. look it up

this cohen is not awake...but dont give up...its a shame to the honir of Papaji,one of the biggests masters ever

@FreekeeChakra

5 жыл бұрын

Get over papaji and that talk about masters. it's bullshit. Papaji was a very flawed human being as well. Putting people on pedestals doesn't do anything for you.

Cohen is just plain wrong . . . in not acknowledging personal forms of Love that are without attachment. This is the typically Buddhist bias that he and Wilber share. That there is a True and Essential Personal Self (other than the "egoic", conditioned, psychological self) . . . is conveyed to humanity primarily through the Abrahamic traditions.

@timtrek

3 жыл бұрын

it's the subject of 'The Pearl Beyond Price' by AH Almaas. He refers to it as the 'personal essence'

@QED_

3 жыл бұрын

@@timtrek Yes . . .

The true spirit can not manifest, through an unhealthy physical body...

@craigblack1234 Assuming you are talking about criticisms of Wilber and Cohen all I can say is, "are you fucking serious?" Cohen's own mother wrote a book called "Mother of God" that adds to the library of anti-Cohen and Google will quickly lead you to the numerous sites dedicated to detailing Wilber's self-congratulation and self-contradictions. This is not to say you might not find the odd good idea but listening to either of these ego-maniacs at length results in a low words to wisdom ratio.

That's not true at all. You can most certainly work on both in the course of your life and development (obviously not at the exact same time).

Cohen is not awake....ahhhhh

Cohen, "When I heard this story about Jesus... when... and I might be getting this wrong because I'm... But I think there was a body that need to be buried." WTF??? 17:52... Holy shit! He's trying to teach using a story that he doesn't really know? Much less read? I'm sorry but everyone from Yogananda to Maharishi to the Dalai Lama quotes Jesus correctly... not like some story they heard on a street corner. As always, Buyer Beware!

Guilty by association...... This pair of heady narcissists trying to explaind the heart...... You'd get more truth if you asked a six year old

I have a hard time watching this because of all the nasty stories I have heard about Andrew Cohen. Regardless of how clear and lucid his answers are, his alleged treatment of his disciples is horrible.

this is just rabbish

two narcistics talking about love?Just does not land in my heart. Too much talk too much left brain

you are lost in knowledge