This reminds me of Jeff Goldbloom's line in Jurassic Park, "Just because you can do something doesn't mean that you should do it."

@gregmonks

9 ай бұрын

Michael Chrichton. He wrote the book.

I feel this was completely unethical and should not have happened. I love the video and the manner in which you went about stating the facts. Thank you!!! I LOVE your work!!

@kensmith5694

9 ай бұрын

By "unethical" do you mean merely not ethical or would you say it is all the way into being evil. I characterized it as "dumb" for lack of a better way to suggest how I felt about it. I can't quite get to it being evil.

@mavrosyvannah

9 ай бұрын

​@@kensmith5694you're fired for fuggle dudding. I agree, it is unethical to all who have ethics.

@kensmith5694

9 ай бұрын

@@mavrosyvannah :) :) :)

@Rexodus014

8 ай бұрын

@@kensmith5694 Agree. Cheesy... too. The type of selling you would likely find in a liberal politician's campaign advertisement.

@kensmith5694

8 ай бұрын

@@Rexodus014 A lot depends on which version or nation's "liberal politicians". For example, it is well known that Canada has a Conservative party that isn't and a Liberal party that isn't, the UK has a Conservative party that isn't and also differs with the Canadian one that isn't and that the People's Republic of Whatever isn't the peoples nor a republic and the United States are not very united.

Here for the thumbnail, stayed for the content.

Given the relative size of the visible universe we could have just hung the fossils from the top of a tall tree and achieved the same thing.

And here we go! Kayleigh always has excellent content. I love how she delivers her product (information).

Thanks Kayleigh, this was a surprise. I had no idea of this. I agree with the critics, why? I enjoy your videos which advance our understanding of our paleo history and of our ancestry for the layperson. This seemed more like a stunt for a privileged few, no scientific reason.

Honestly, I am just baffled as to why anyone thought sending ANY fossil into space was a good idea. Seems like a super weird flex to me really, thanks Kayleigh for another informative video!

@matthewdudael1931

9 ай бұрын

Exactly ! Where is the science What was the point ?

@miraxus6264

9 ай бұрын

Yes like a flex....dumb

@anthonyproffitt5341

9 ай бұрын

She explained that it was to draw attention and be a tribute.

Beyond the idea that a catastrophic accident could have destroyed the fossils I have to wonder if exposure to solar radiation above the atmosphere could have affected them, thus contaminating any future research on them using test methods not currently available.

@Grungy1

9 ай бұрын

I was wondering that same thing.

The fossils seem like a trophy to me. I believe there are cultures that believe in trapping spirits to serve a survivor. That's what this feels like......capturing the spirit of the fossil to boost their pride. I also feel like I'm being harsh for lack of the kind of evidence that would lead me logically to this conclusion. I'm just expressing what I feel based on my instincts.

My dear young Kayleigh, our personal opinion is just as valid as mine out anybody else's & I, for one, would love to hear it. I'm a big fan of yours & you may be an enthusiastic amateur, but you're one of the best informed amateurs around!!! My opinion, for what it's worth, is that this was an exercise in vanity; I see no practical benefit, to research with the potential for great loss had anything gone wrong. The loss would've been "astronomical" as the fossils are, as you said, irreplaceable. There was no practical purpose served other than to make someone feel more important than they really are, self validation. Ere there thousands upon thousands of these fossils, that would be different, but there aren't. I lived at Edisto Island here in South Carolina, the most fossiliferous beach on the east coast; in one afternoon, at dead low ebb tide, in two hours, I picked up 321 whole sharks teeth with countless fragments, along with a tapir tooth, several horses teeth, several camel teeth, several dozen stingray barbs, alligator scutes, a dolphins tooth & a bunch of drum fish teeth. Point being, there's gazillions of them, fossils like those get ground up daily in the making of concrete posing no loss to science; but the human fossils of the type you spoke of being lost to science would have been tragic. What were they thinking? I don't often comment, because I can't just enter a sentence or two, I've got to write a book!!! So, thank you for reading this bloviated message!!! Keep on doing the great work that you do!!! You rock young lady, & that's coming from an old fart who was a teen during the 1960's when they really rocked!!! I'm practically a fossil myself!!!

I agree with the privilege observation. Living in the United States, I see firsthand what benefits the wealthy can buy in today's world.

@shaunhall960

9 ай бұрын

Indeed and it is not slowing down.

Thank you! Appreciate when you debunk bad actions in a non-sensational way.

That’s no way to talk about Captain Kirk! 😂

Thanks for your balanced approach

I appreciate you admitting you are an amateur with a deep passion for history, evolution, etc. For an amateur you do excellent research and presentations.

Hmpf! Well, I reckon that publicity stunt pissed some people off, right? Looking forward to your take on this one, Lady K. 🌷oet Grun', T.

It never stops to amaze me how modern humans feel about our ancestors. The privilege we feel, the superiority we believe & the disregard we hold towards humans ancestors frankly puts us as a race in such a damning light! Thankyou for bringing this topic to our attention.

@Orpheus063

9 ай бұрын

It's easy to look down at the shoulders of the giants you've always been stood on top of. Piles of bones we've made our homes yet think of ourselves as better than.

Once someone looked at birds, sky, stars and wondered…two million years later their remains flew on spaceship and touched the space…

@miraxus6264

9 ай бұрын

Lol...doubt they could ever have seen that coming

If they had any scientific justification I'd understand and i agree we must take risks to further our knowledge, however i doudt any knowledge was gained in this particular risk. Thank you for your video and unbiased opinion

Australopithecus collarbone and Homo Naledi thumb bone is the most appropriate bones to send. The thumb says that evolution here has an opposable appendage. I'm not sure that the collar bone has significance in that regard.. At least they didn't send the cold shoulder. lol. Sorry, that is a saying we have up here in Canada. When one is late for dinner, they get the 'cold shoulder'. Kayleigh you are a true professional that way you present yourself and the relevant info. New subbie. Keep up the great work.

I'm sure our ancestors would have loved to flight into space, the way I see it, is not different than when they put those samples on a plane to be displayed at another museum.

Cool channel! Subbed! I think you're doing a real good job! Warmest, S.

I'd think it just a publicity stunt to promote Virgin Galactic.

@kensmith5694

9 ай бұрын

It seems far too specialized for that purpose. If they were wanting to get noticed, they just needed to use standard click bait "Completely naked kittens. You will be shocked at what happens next".

I appreciate the sentiment, but it should have been a hand axe that was sent up to represent our ancestors - as it is a technological artefact I think it would've been more appropriate to send in a space vehicle which represents our intellectual/technological 'progress'. Thanks for this Kayleigh.

I love your videos, Kayleigh! Thank you.

Wait what?!? They launched Richard Branson into space?

Thank you for your work

Great speech, I wish you well ma'am..

What about cosmic rays? I can't help thinking of some future scientific paper containing the words "... because the type specimen was taken into low earth orbit in 2023 and therefore exposed to increased high energy cosmic rays it is not possible to determine ..."

This looks interesting!

If they wanted to bring an ancient artifact into space why not a Babylonian/Assyrian clay tablet or some other form of artifact that had Astrological observations in a well labeled & secure box & do a little ceremony to acknowledge the long journey to the stars.

Hope you doing fine Kayleigh🌹👍🏻😎

My personal view on this matter is: Why? Those are irreplaceable pieces of our evolutionary history. You just shouldn't throw them out to space!

Unnecessary risks should never be taken.

@rockrancher4004

9 ай бұрын

The logical conclusion, then, would be to take some pills to assure one didn't wake up. Not a pleasant idea.

yeah, feel it ruins them for further study, if their bring them back. id feel better if they were gonna launch them into the void, like the "golden record" as a " we are here!" letter.

Tak!

My question is whether it actually had the intended political or symbolic impact. They could have taken photos or models with them and achieved the same thing without the unnecessary risk

@jeromedebaviere9595

9 ай бұрын

I think it does have a strong symbolic impact... and it's quite a strong illustration of the lack of responsibility we show towards our heritage. For a symbol, to carry pre-human fossil remains in the right-side pocket of your pants, your phone being in the left side one, is embarrassing for homo sapiens sapiens

@anthonyproffitt5341

9 ай бұрын

I think some folks that have zero skin in the game are a little too bothered by it.

🙏♥ Great work as always, thank you so much Kayleigh. 🧙‍♂🐶

Im surprised its only the first time we taught about doing this. But as a Space Nerd, im not convinced they actually reached Space, space. And they didnt even leave it in space. And I wish that Elon would have done something like this instead of sending that car

Yea Lee. Love it ❤❤❤

100% behind it. Someday we'll be shipping specimens for display in museums on Mars. This is only the beginning of space being a normal part of human existence. The first thing I thought of with the collar bone was the opening transition of the movie 2001. Truly a wonderful tie between our past and future as we are honored to be alive on the cusp. Oceans. Land. Space. We are living through one of the most significant transitions in the history of life.

@HawkemCinco

5 ай бұрын

You are truly the anti christ among earth you are the alien

It seems to me that Lee Berger and his patron were way outside the realm of science and the stunt was uncalled for.

I have far more important things to focus my attention on. I watch your videos to keep up on the latest discoveries which you have done a great job in my opinion.

When I heard of this I asked myself what you'd think! Nice.

You're the best Kayleigh.

I'm not bothered. At first, I thought they were getting launched somewhere, but if they came back in one piece, then I don't mind. It sure got people talking, which was probably their point, however misguided.

@miraxus6264

9 ай бұрын

Very good point..it has gotten people talking

Kayleigh, Thanks for your coverage on this stuff :D I think it's high time we shipped a few billionaires to outer space and leave them there! This whole adventure has also caused me to doubt Dr. Berger and that's a shame.

Not sure how to react to this. I don't understand why you would want to take ancient remains into space. What studies would you perform on them? Test weightlessness on ancient bones?

If they could launch some of our leaders into space that would be a worthwhile achievement .

@kensmith5694

9 ай бұрын

It takes more energy than they had to take the spacecraft out of earths orbit completely.

@Rooster72

9 ай бұрын

Most of them are basically fossils

@floydriebe4755

9 ай бұрын

but, only if they were left out there!

When I saw the title, I couldn't help but think, did Richard Branson go on another flight?

gotta love space

Just a note; What about DNA in the fossils, if any exists in them? A kind of freaky thought is, what if a space alien intercepts it, extracts the DNA, and messes around with it? Kind of a creepy thought. It's a whole lot of sci fi, but I'm wondering what the purpose is sending human fossils into space....

The folly of man, knows no boundary.

Hey Kayleigh you remind me of good memories you talk and look like my professor for Genetics who 🥲 revived my faith in life I was studied for motivated thanks to her thanks Professor Jihene Dhoaudia

It was a silly publicity stunt that should have been omitted. The hard cosmic radiation might have wiped out chemical traces future analysis methods could have found, there was the risk of damage by accident… Just not the way you treat such items.

Megatron from (Beast Wars) had the golden disk from the Voyager space craft.

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Maybe they should also send these fossil bones to the Titanic😢 wreck-site on the next Titan Trip? Think of it...the highest high and way down deep. Never mind the risks, we can always dig-up another bone.

😃 off to space we go

There are plenty of living humans that are a better example of what wee are. Cause we are living that life and making those choices.

Kayleigh, I love your videos, and I know you usually do more ancient, even pre-historic, eras but as an American citizen, and you being a Nederlander, I would like to humbly request that you cover the history of Nieuw Nederland and the Dutch colonization of what would later become the USA. I only ask because US sources for this history is lacking and they don't really go into as much detail, as well as being "anglo-centric" in their bias. It's also harder to find Dutch sources which don't require translation. I think it would be more fascinating to hear not only a Dutch perspective, but also your personal perspective about this more forgotten piece of both Dutch and New World history. After all, your first name is an Americanized spelling.

@fredbays

9 ай бұрын

being a 75 yr old NYer I got eded on NYS history in Seventh grade Ya for a whole school yr 45 min a day I got NYS history so I know a little more then most about the Dutch in the NW It also help that the family a mile up the road were descendants of those Dutch settlers and had a good bit of their family history written down over the years Did u know that it was a Dutch colony in Carrabin that gave the USA flag its first foreign gun salute. It was for the USS Andrew Doria when it put in at Eustatius The USA got almost as much aid from the Dutch that it got form the French. Got weapons from the French but the power to use them came form the Dutch The English blockade of coast was a joke to any competent capt

@Eidolon1andOnly

9 ай бұрын

@@fredbays Very cool. Thank you for sharing. I was raised and educated on the west coast, so not as much in depth history of other states like New York.

@fredbays

9 ай бұрын

@@Eidolon1andOnly dont worry they stop teaching real history in about 1975 when it was found that we boomers got to much of it and that is why we revolted Today our kids get so little of real history I am very glad that we have UT and channels like this that will ed them b/c our schools arnt

The extraterrestrial beings are gonna think we're really are monkeys flying in space and they might want to do something to curb that.

I find it difficult to understand the reasoning behind this “experiment”… there is value in a longer term space fossil experiment, mainly in determining how long term exposure to the radiation of space, would effect our ability to date the fossils, and thus the ability to estimate the age of potential alien remains. But this, this was just a publicity stunt.

Saw a response to events by Lee Berger today on FACEBOOK.

@HistoryWithKayleigh

9 ай бұрын

Yes I saw it too, guess I didn't wait long enough

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9 ай бұрын

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I think a good case can be made that this should not have been done. I think an even better case can be made that, if it is to be done, this wasn't the right way to do it. I will point out that this is not the first time that human remains have gone into space. The ashes of both Gene Roddenberry and Timothy Leary have flown in space.

Gday Kayliegh, hmmm, I think im with you at the moment...not arrived at my final thoughts/view on this. Maybe the mission was to actually return some ancient aliens to their own folks😂😂😂 And yes, no one can say you haven't done yr best to provide only the truth and views around this. Sidenote, i havent looked at yr channel in a short while, do many folks make mention to your accent being lessened? I think I could hear yr words more clearly in this video... however, my poor hearing doesnt mean you are or ever were difficult to understand!😂 Great Video. And you look great too.

@ianwallace2201

8 ай бұрын

@_History_Withkayleigh Gday Kayleigh, surely this number you've sent isn't yr phone number and or I'm being pranked or scammed by someone else?

@gmikoner

8 ай бұрын

@@ianwallace2201 Its a scam account. Please disregard.

Imagine in some hundert thausend years someone will take one of your bones to space ... mmmm ... I kind of like that idea ... Most scientist have been keeping their finds for themselfes - Lee Berger contributed to a change so that many young scintist have now the opportunitiy to research his finds. There is much research to be done in the future and hopefully this PR action may help to found this... Money in itself has no value. Only what you use it for gives it meaning. I think that is was either a good neither a bad idea.

The domain name is still called Twitter. I call is twitter too.

Interstellar politico. That's just great.

I have no view on it, apart from one day we will return back to space as dust

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I trust you, Kayleigh ❤️ 😍

I must say it all seems a bit pointless to me... what purpose can it possibly serve? 🤔😕

While there is likely a very broad spectrum, my own experience with the super wealthy has shown me two basic profiles. One type, they tend to be really nice, kind and considerate to just about everyone. They tend to lead pretty quiet lives, the sort who might hear of some worthy cause and pause a moment to write a check just because they find it fun to do so. Because they can well afford to be that nice, and find it makes for an even more pleasant world for them to be very rich in. While you'll hardly ever hear of 'em, i've seen that such do exist. The other type tends to be completely oblivious to interests or concerns of anyone else they may encounter in the world, acting toward others only in ways which imply their own dominance over anyone else. Because they can afford to ignore everyone else, for the sake of their own self-aggrandizement. They tend to garner significantly greater public visibility, the sort who, hearing of some worthy cause would first think to how they can take it over so any accolades or revenue or simple public attention flows to them, or something like, "Totaled his new Lamborghini two blocks from the dealership."

If only this was the one time that the coolness of an idea transcended its value. That seems to have been the vector of science for many decades - science is clickbait.

I thought they went up in Tupperware containers

I have heard of crazy things in my life but this takes the cake. "Human advancements require risks." What what human advancements ??? Sounds like they are risking are risking priceless artifacts for a political stunt. South Africa has enough problems without wasting precious resources on something like this. They would be better off fixing the electrical grid in Cape Town.

We never know how much more information we can get out of a specimen because we can't predict future technologies. At one time we didn't know that rock could provide estimated age of very ancient bone or, more recently, that fossilized pigment could tell us what colors dinosaurs were. To risk damage or destruction of these materials for such a stunt is just hubristic potential squandering of world heritage.

I think it is wrong to take the fossils to space and the reason behind the reason

Geaux Saints

I would not say it was unethical. They forgot their labels. I understand why they did it. I would like to think they would pad the inside of the tube with some type of foam padding. Just because we did not see it does not mean it was not there. Assuming is not a very good thing to do. One must get all their facts. My question is what is Mr. Nash getting out of this?

Congratulations to you, Kayleigh, for tap-dancing through a mine field to emerge on the other side with all your appendages. When I first heard about this I thought “all the damn 10:03 money I’ve donated to the national geographic over the years, and they shoot suff off into space?”. Clearly I need to re-think my meagre funding contributions. This was an ego-centric stunt. Like Elon shooting his car into orbit. Ok. Fine. You can do that. Feel better now? Feel like a “big league guy?”. You know it’s not like we have a huge excess of samples. Genetics or otherwise. I guess some people just never grow up. Whatever……. Fox out

@barrywalser2384

9 ай бұрын

Hey Fox! Kayleigh did a great job of giving us “just the facts”. I’m on the fence on this issue. Certainly not the worst thing ever done, but also maybe not necessarily the best.

@vulpesvulpes5177

9 ай бұрын

@@barrywalser2384 Hey Barry. Yes she did. As to stupid things done in the name of science…..probably a 6 on a scale of 1 to 10. I guess we will all live. Fox out

@floydriebe4755

9 ай бұрын

agreed, Fox! Kayleigh was great, of course! i would have had some choice words about such a sophomoric stunt..... let's do it! because we can! #*!"?☆₩○¿!!!??? and, yeah, i gave up on Nat Geo a few years back....just not enough articles of importance... to me, anyway....nothin' 'bout wassermelons(dang, you're wearin' off on me) sssooo, later, Mr Vulpes. nuff said

I have some questions and concerns about Dr. Lee Berger’s involvement. It seems to me that he is creating sensationalization to advance his agenda.

I love you Kayleigh ❤❤❤❤

A respectful way of doing it would have been having these remains occupying the seat of a human, not to be carried in the pocket of a human being enjoying this extraordinary experience. You'd think: giving two fossil bones a seat sounds crazy. Which obviously leads to the conclusion that having them in your pocket tells nothing about the bones, but everything about yourself

If none of the concerns raised were valid, I'd think "Cool!". But, every concern raised makes sense.

Hew-mans do strange things.

I disagree wholly with their decision for the bones. It shouldn't have happened. Okay, maybe a different minefield, but if one assumes that the "aliens" in Area 51 are remotely real that stuff is also as disgraceful as well. Humans (8 billion of us) need to start to regard others of OUR kind, past or present or future, as equals and as someone respected. We need to make the assumption that any "other species of intelligent beings" that might exist out there would want to an encounter with a species (us!) who would respect them and not treat them like what had happened in and after 1492. However, disagreeing with the actions aside I do think that any notion of "belief" (past or present versions) should be assigned to these actions. There are potential dangers in outer space like chemicals, pathogens and radiation that we cannot even begin to understand what their impact would be on living being. We live in a biodome that needs to be protected, and nothing from this biodome should be exposed to the chemicals, pathogens and radiation. Because we cannot know if any exposure causes a potential "patient zero"... hence why people going into space are put through decontamination (I would guess). Similarly we could be releasing pathogens into outer space. Those discs in Voyager 1 and 2 sit in an ultra-sterile space vehicle, but this can never be entirely secured in a manned spacecraft...

To me this is ceremonial, not scientific. Spiritual and symbolic. As much as i think that is a very important part of the human experience we must make sure not to destroy our legacy in the process of celebrating it. This is also true when it comes to archeological and historical sites, buildings, objects etc.

This doesn't surprise me how people are today.

Grande Alessio.

With anything symbolic, it will always have people who never agree, or like to stir the pot.

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While they were Type specimens, they weren't the only Type specimens of their kind, so, for a symbolic pursuit and/or publicity stunt, these don't appear to have been irreplaceable. While clavicles are harder to find than hand bones, neither one is especially rare, considering. Were they handled responsibly? 🤷‍♂️ It was probably no better or worse than transport from the dig site to even a university or lab local to the site. Was it disrespectful? 🤷‍♂️ They were on his person. At least they weren't just stashed in the trunk or the glovebox of Elon Musk's Tesla Roadster. While it certainly raises the concerns mentioned in the video, it seems to have been a lukewarm publicity stunt, with nothing truly ventured, and nothing truly gained. Since there are those pesky restrictions on taking human tissue to space, but there might be some important science to be conducted on cadavers in space, might I propose using the ISS as an orbital hospice when its end of mission date occurs, but before allowing it to enter Earth's atmosphere. Maybe give first dibs to astronauts from any of the partner nations involved, as well as the ground crews and other folks who make space travel possible. Just think how heartwarming it would have been for Stephen Hawking to spend his last days floating around the space station. It'll also be a good incentive for training medical personnel in space. It's the ultimate Doctors Without Borders destination.😅

I'm sorry, typo first line: your personal opinion is just as valid as mine or anybody else's!!!

Sober, informative & well constructed, this was helpful :) thx for the content

The answer Kayleigh as to why Tim Nash would do such a thing presents itself on the Virgin Galactic webpage of Nash's Bio. The very first word describing Nash is "Entrepreneur" before all other descriptions of Nash's accomplishments. Need anything more be pondered as to motivations?🤑🤑🤑🤣

As a living human fossil, I strongly object to this action. If a human fossil was to be launched into space, they could have ASKED Keith Richards if he wanted to go. 🙈🙉🙊

100% a pr stunt. Can just imagine the convo. Berger: wouldn't it be cool if we took these fossils into space Executive: what why? B: because we can lol E: yeah lol totes. Lucky we have a pr dept to put a spin on it the public will buy. Whoo propagandaaaaaa! Your opinion matters Kayleigh!