This was a very interesting discussion, perfect for the interested but non specialist viewer. Another great guest.

@DigitalHammurabi

5 жыл бұрын

I’m so glad! We’ll definitely be asking Dr.Konstantopoulos back 😁

Fun fact, the word firmament is still used in spanish(firmamento) mostly in poetic or classy texts... Like the song of the flag in argentina "salve argentina, bandera azul y blanca, jiron del cielo en donde imoera el sol... Yo te saludo, bandera de mi patria, el firmamento su color te dio"

The demon of "Which of you bastards am I gonna have to shiv to get the last slice of pizza"

@intellectualiconoclasm3264

5 жыл бұрын

The demon of Manx filamentous whiskers up your nose at the "Feed-me-o'clock hour."

@intellectualiconoclasm3264

5 жыл бұрын

@LeeTubular Smart little dinos lol. I have two families of ravens in my neighborhood. One loves me and the other isn't fond for some reason. They know when I'm walking mo dog I usually leave a few treats. That's enough for the family that likes me to talk anytime I'm around.

This made for great listening while working on my dissertation. :) Funny you mention ancient aliens; I started learning Sumerian recently and can't help but think of a rocket ship each time I see the 'lugal' sign!

Dr. Josh you do a pretty good Kent Hovind 👏 👏

@NM_rocker

5 жыл бұрын

I should have added that I love the channel for it's educational content as well as the personalities

@DigitalHammurabi

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Love to see another interview with this scholar on demons and infection, especially apropos for what’s going on right now with the covid19 threat.

Fyi.. my bearded dragon is named Tiamat and my Blue Tongued Skink is Absu lol

I really enjoyed this conversation!

I would love to take Dr. Konstantopoulos brain out for a date. This stream was magnificent and your chemistry was so great. Please have her back, so few make such "Dusty scholarship," so enjoyable.

Loving the cat. :D

Didn’t expect an @Hbomberguy shoutout here! Amazing, I think he would love it 🥰

Dr. Gina can't stop! 😁

Have you done any video on the break down of the Enuma Elsih? It seems to lead to the Zecharia Sitchin ideas of ancient astronauts. I cannot seem to find a single video that does the Enuma Elish justice to those who are just interested in human origins.

@DigitalHammurabi

4 жыл бұрын

Paul LoPiccolo I actually just finished recording a video on the political dimensions of the myth! I’m not sure there would be anything there that pertains to the origins of humanity, sadly.

BRAND NEW Sub!!! :D :D :D :D :D *Many** of the new views you'll see are mine..... :D because, THANK YOU

@DigitalHammurabi

5 жыл бұрын

Thank YOU! Great to have you with us 😁

Are you saying that Adapa could use dragon speak, Fus Ro Da????

Did you know that lugalbanda in the mountain cave describes a very similar "story" than the way some ocultist/hermetic orders use as a guide for their initiation? I wonder why...

Haha Dr. Gina is adorable!

*Location of “Errata”?* They thought they had it right, but it turned out to be a mistake @15:30

@djmacmillan1

3 ай бұрын

Aratta is the Ukraine

The real content starts (slowly) at 3:35.

@ Digital Hammurabi , sorry I missed your life feed , AGAIN ( ikhre^ gu Ha^li ) , Question for Dr Gina : how do you now that ? how do you know what they wrote about was not what we think it was about ? in relation to their advanced science in times where impossible ( i.e ability to build batteries used as mobile power stations to gold plate utensils , e,t,c ) another thing : we do not have a word even today in Assyrian Aramaic words for cars , or trains so we use : Automable = cars , Machina = Train , Makina = Machine e.t.c so why did my Ancestors had words for flying machines such as S^u-s^ar ( a supreme flying craft ) . perhaps they did know earth was not flat , since all spherical data were imposed as disc clay for better use in study or record of spherical map on clay disc for shelving more data than actual spherical clay text , which we did have cylinder shaped seals , texts and even octagon shaped books . perhaps the word : four corners of the world, did not mean earth was flat , rather the four regions of earth ( as of East, West , North and South ) i.e : the Ziusudra account( the flood ) : the south storm rose like a battle from the corner of the world , it charged like like a battle ........e.t.c , I am curious to know your answers to my questions . thank you for your time and sharing your information .

@MMAGamblingTips

5 жыл бұрын

AnunnakiThe1 They didn’t have batteries like Ancient Aliens act. The Baghdad “battery” has been debunked in this manner if that’s what you’re talking about.

@AnunnakiThe1

5 жыл бұрын

@@MMAGamblingTips , how do you know that ? because few high heel self proclaimed egotistic history scholars said so ? or have you forgot to gold plate ? you can't use AC current , nor any high voltage or Amps, just ask any Jewelry maker . did you know the smartphones today and all I phones and small electronic devices uses Iron cathode ion batteries ? it is called : Sodium iron pyrophosphate based batteries, guess what ? Baghdad Batteries had Iron cathodes in them and copper anode , go figure genius . the Irony in your statement is staggering , stop watching mainstream B.S please , it will damage your Mind forever .

@DigitalHammurabi

5 жыл бұрын

I should add here that Josh and I both consider ourselves to be mainstream scholars...hopefully you don’t view what we say as ‘BS’.

@MMAGamblingTips

5 жыл бұрын

AnunnakiThe1 I’m aware of how a battery works. I’m referring to the Baghdad Battery’s” capacity to generate substantial electricity and other lost technologies that could power the pyramids as many claim. I pointed this out after your pseudoscientific rambling with the username Anunnaki that screams out “I watch Ancient Aliens” and “I read Chariots of the Gods“ and “I follow Zechariah Sitchin” etc. AKA Ppeople who are full of shit. Mainstream science/archaeology etc. aren’t “shitheels” and speaking of them in this manner is so disrespectful. It shows me you don’t know how science works. Archaeologists don’t get paid to just be ditto heads. Making new discoveries is how they are able to get grants and further their research. There isn’t some secret cabal that is keeping “Alternative science“ out of the loop. Any university would love to be able to tout something new and extraordinary. But it doesn’t come from amateur archeologists just looking at ancient illustrations and interpreting it like something they see in the clouds. BTW: if you aren’t into mainstream history; what in the world are you doing here?

@MMAGamblingTips

5 жыл бұрын

Digital Hammurabi Wish I had seen this first lol. Would have saved me a lot of time above. Josh or Megan - are you guys still taking donations for your student summer research grant project or is it too late? I wanted to donate something. Love you guys!

Shes such a dork and I love it

What is the firmament is my go-to question for people that claim there are no problems in the Bible. Also I love the second guest here ie professor mao

Hehe. Funny to hear that joke from Die Hard. I often visit Helsinki. Josh and Megan if you ever visit Finland and go to Helsinki let me know. I would like to offer you drinks in my favorite bar. 25:57 Oh I know hbomberguy. Yeah, he's videos are really good for what I've seen. I may subscribe later. And I also see at least parallels to the racist ideas of past in those ancient alien beliefs. I read somewhere that when the ruins of ancient Zimbabwe were discovered, the German archaeologist back then imagined it could not have been build by black people and that a group of white people had traveled to Africa and build it. 49:35 Now I'm thinking of Steven Universe. I would love to have Dr Konstantopoulos return and compare how people back them dealt with demons to modern exorcism.

@DigitalHammurabi

5 жыл бұрын

If we make it to Finland, I’ll definitely let you know!

@NuisanceMan

10 ай бұрын

@@DigitalHammurabi The country where I'd quite like to be!

" This stuff is nuts! " Well, they went to school for a long time to know what they are saying is nuts. Scholarship is more than, a funny haircut, wack Indiana Jones costume and a history Channel camera recording. This is great.

What's Akkadian for "doobie"?

44:21 *Eat dust for all eternity* Whoa! Is that the basis for part of the Genesis 3:14 curse on the serpent … “… you will eat dust all the days of your life”.?

This page got a Wikipedia context insertion about the Flat Earth, as though someone or somebot thought this advocated the idea, instead of studying the topic academically.

@DigitalHammurabi

3 жыл бұрын

That is amazing and hilarious :D

My pen is corroded for lack of slaughter.

Dr. Josh, @4:41 you said " That's a little condescending." Reminds me of a joke... In the 1863 an art theif who happened to be a midget was sentenced to life imprisonment. But midgets were so unusual in England in those times the prisons were not really designed for keeping people of unusually diminuative size. It was less than a month into his sentence when he found a way out. Early in the morning before the sun rose he slipped through a gap between two walls, climbed up a waterspout and toward the most outside fence. In a moment of pride, and knowing he would escape, just as the dawn broke, and as he climbed down the border fence, he shouted out to the gaurd in the tower now far away. "I have beaten you! I have defeated your great walls! Not a month could you keep me bound! I laugh at your high fences and I laugh at you!" And the gaurd sounded back... "That's a little con descending!" @48:45 or so: Levels of Heaven; The word "jasper" sharpened my ears. The Bible has it that the base color of the levels of Heaven are jasper in hue. The lower levels having a glow surrounding them which also is jasper in color. However, the uppermost part of Heaven, the Habitation of God, is described as having an emerald green "rainbow" round about it. I have searched my memory and for all your videos and for all my learning I do not know what color "lapis" is. Would it be some medium green? Now I'm going to go look it up.... nevermind answering. Yes, Doctor Josh, of course you are correct that peoples presuppositional and dogmatic beliefs cause a certain view. Pride also must be summated into that equation. What of a view that does not have these and other conflicts? My presuppositions approaching the text were clichê anti-theism. Neither religious persons nor secular scholars are purposely self-decieved. They have no choice. They have heard no suggestion of a view that permits anything else. This is where I am one strange beast. I expect no one to believe me without some thirty hours of me explaining. I'm happy to do that. Most just get frustrated, though I may be extra gentle toward all, and they simply drop out of the conversation. I am working toward improving my presentation but I am only about seven years old in this. I'll be practicing at Skylar's channel. Great presentation, this video. Thank you for your work.

@MMAGamblingTips

5 жыл бұрын

Richard Madsen Awesome joke! Sounds like a Tyrion Lannister joke. Ha!

@Demolish_DoctrineRichardMadsen

5 жыл бұрын

Mr. Insidious Vidz, Thank you for your comment. Seems you know more of humor than I personally do. I guess we are both joke snobs to some yet unidentified extent. Here's another... What's the difference between a Clam Shucker with bad Epilepsy and a Prostitute with relentless Diarrhea? (I normally don't tell dirty jokes but... just for you..) You see ... The Clam Shucker will SHUCK between FITS. Hope you laugh, in about two minutes. Check out a vid hosted by Skylar Fiction containing my name... let me know what you think.

@MMAGamblingTips

5 жыл бұрын

Richard Madsen I’ll be honest, it took me about 3 minutes with my eyes rolled and frozen trying to figure it out...then I started crying laughing 😂 Bravo 👏 I’ll get you back tomorrow and check Skylar’s channel. Skylar’s awesome!

@Demolish_DoctrineRichardMadsen

5 жыл бұрын

Mr. Insidious Vids, Can't let you catch up! That's a comics Faux Paux... that's the challenge! (Though I like being serious as well) Catch me if you can! A great grizzly bear walks into a Burger King and bellies up to the counter. The VERY nervous teenagers voice cracks while saying.. "May I te-ake your order ma'am...uh...sir? The bear replies.. "Yes, I would like a Who.....................................................................................................per, please, and a large french fries with a small Diet Coke. Gatta' stay in shape for the la.........................................................................dies. Wink wink." Right away sir! The youth replies and sprints off to retrieve the order. Upon delivering the order. And still being alive. The clumsy youth felt brave and asked the grizzly... "Uh.. if you don't mind.. " "Yes?" said the bear. "Uh... when you were ordering you seemed to freeze in time?" "Sir, why." "Why the big pause?" The bear exposes his front feet above the counter and replies.. "Why the big paws? They go with the big legs and big teeth." You're turn!

@MMAGamblingTips

5 жыл бұрын

Richard Madsen Ok..just got the time to sit down and type a joke. BTW Lol @ that epilepsy joke! It made me think of the mafia and vagina joke. Heard it? What do the Mafia and pussies have in common? One slip of the tongue, and you’re in deep shit. ...... Guy comes to a bar sits down, sees a monkey in a cage and says “What’s the monkey for?” Bartender says don’t ask. ..[[This goes on for about two hours]] Finally, he goes “All right! I’ll show you”. Bartender opens the cage & monkey jumps out. Bartender takes a baseball bat, hits the monkey over the head with it and the monkey starts giving him oral sex. The guy says “Wow!“ Bartender says “Yeah! Wanna to try it?“ The guy says “Yeah! But don’t hurt me so hard!”

Your pronunciation of her last name is not that bad... The closest i got was "constant topless"

@ssdsd5394

5 жыл бұрын

gingercore69 😆 That's only natural. Every couple years or so I have to relearn how to pronounce random words. (partial facial reconstruction...look normal enough but scars tighten over time) I wanted to learn a second language so I went with Japanese because they hardly move their lips at all. So now when I'm tired I find my brain turns off the English setting because it takes less effort. 😂😂😂

@gingercore69

5 жыл бұрын

@@ssdsd5394 i wish i had a good reason to pronunciate things wrong... But its just that im dumb 😽

@intellectualiconoclasm3264

5 жыл бұрын

@@gingercore69 I believe "I can't make my mouth do that," is a valid reason. Plus dumb? Nah, you're hear not Springer pirate streams or IBS.

Your Kent Hovind needs another spoonful of condescension 😂

On the Flood ... depends on which era. Ur/Eridu are now inland relative to 4,000 BCE. But during the last Ice Age, 15,000 BCE, land extended all the way to the Straight of Hormuz. There were hunter/gatherers living there.

Dr. Josh, Do you hold to anti-supernaturalism and the non-possibility of divine revelation as an ‘a priori’ in your studies, or is your position the result of evidential considerations? Also, this may not be the venue, but “if” God inspired Scripture and the biblical doctrine of inspiration was true, could God not move upon the prophet, utilize his language, and write something applicable to the immediate culture while also transcending the culture for the sake of future generations? Let me give an example where it would be clearly eisegetical to interpret a text in the NT, as you are doing here, by suggesting that “four pillars” or “four corners” means that the text is presupposing a flat earth. In Colossians, Paul refers to Christ as the “fullness” of the Deity incarnō. I’m sure you know that the term “fullness” has significant meaning within Gnosticism in referring to the divine emanations right down to Sophia, who in turn created the demiergos who created matter, which is evil. So, the “fullness” of the divine incarnis is a scandal to the gnostic mind. So, I am sure that Paul was not identifying Christ as the incarnation of all the divine beings of the Gnostic fullness. He simply used the term and poured in a different meaning as a polemic. I can come up with a number of examples to show that “similarity of language” does not mean “identity of concept” between cultures. This is why I think that guys like Heiser and Walton have taken the knowledge of ANE culture (which is helpful) too far in interpreting the biblical text. And so with Genesis, far from adopting the ANE cosmology it is actually a polemic against it. But, I would not be able to convince you, since you don’t think Moses wrote it -LOL! I would just like to hear more of your rationale. Since we came from a similar background and my scholarship pushed me to be more conservative and you lost your faith in Christianity. Peace

@DigitalHammurabi

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Kenny, No, I do not hold to an anti-supernaturalism position, though I have not given the position a great deal of thought. I think that your second question, "If God inspired Scripture . . . could God not move upon the prophet..." is probably self-evident. That God that you appear to be describing, I suspect, would be able to act in the way that you are describing. The question, I think, is whether this is the best model to adopt. I don't think that either Dr. Konstantopolous or I would argue for "similar language = identity of concept." This is the nature of genre. If there is a polemic intended in a text, the language will be close enough to relate the polemic text to the text it intends to respond to, while changing key aspects of the polemic text in order to demonstrate its point. As far as Mosaic authorship, I don't think a polemic in a biblical text would in any way necessitate that text having been written by Moses. In the end, I suppose I approach these texts seeking to identify a model that best accounts for the data. To date, I have not found it necessary or beneficial to posit a supernatural origin for these texts. Hope you are doing well! Josh

Don’t often get a chance to sum things up in one word. CONDESCENDING. Ironic or perhaps even intentional you led with the word. Check your ego and run some tests; you seem smart, do your best.

@DigitalHammurabi

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment, glad you stopped by, though sorry you didn't enjoy the interview.

@NotGoodAtNamingThings

5 жыл бұрын

I'm curious what you found condescending. I didn't get that vibe at all.

@Iamwrongbut

3 жыл бұрын

Could you give an example of what was condescending?

Man I love Josh so much but he is a terrible speaker. This show could be reduced to 20 minutes if his brain was plugged in and his mouth was working. So much space between words, as if he doesn't even know what he is going to say. Especially in the beginning 15 or 20 minutes I'm like "FUCKING TALK MAN!!" And in this case, the guest is doing it too. This sounds like a support group for xanax addicts. I'm sorry, I just have to read your books. Because I definitely know you are wise.

Do you know for a fact the earth is not flat, or the earth is a globe? We know and believe what has been taught to us. None of the pictures of the world are real, they are CGI's, before we make fun of the idea that the earth is flat, let's do some research. I do like your programs and I thank you for that.

No amount of degrees can make one funny. It's harder than it looks. Please leave jokes to funny people. Your lame jokes come across as arrogance. Play it straight and stick to the topic.

whats so funny lady... all your studies are based on what someone else wrote down or mapped, what about what wasn't written down or mapped.. now that's funny believing in what someone else did and thinking your an expert on it. LOL

@DigitalHammurabi

Жыл бұрын

Cool story bro.