One of the most gratifying results of my DNA test is finding that I am who I was told I was. DNA does not lie!

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

No it does not lie... Thanks for sharing.

Finally an explanation that makes sense, thanks for making all the bits and pieces fit together.

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I have been watching your channel off and on and always walk away with a clear understanding of what you are conveying. Your explanations are good with sound examples to help the listener understand the concept. You move slowly through the concepts so that it is easy to comprehend the information. I really enjoy your posts.

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

This was my first look at your channel after being referred by a cousin. I found it very clear and easy to follow and will now see what else I can learn about from other episodes. I'm a DNA novice so this was a great start. Thanks. Peter in Melbourne, Australia

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter. I hope to see you around more. Glad you enjoyed it.

@exdus235

4 жыл бұрын

👋😊🇺🇸

I've always loved thrulines, and I love it even more because of the additional understanding I gained from your discussion in this video! Thank you so much, Carol!

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

Thank you Constance ! Although I already had a solid grasp of ThruLines, your explanation did upturn a stone or two. What I'm really excited about is the DNA Painter program you mentioned !

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Thank you Connie. I'm sure that I'll be watching this several more times, but I do see a light at the end of the tunnel. Well done and understandable to this old guy.

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

You are so welcome

Thanks again for another informative program. I love your analogy to how the arts align. I will be able to make more sense out of my thru-lines.

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

Wonderful!

Connie; This was great. I have a new appreciation for the tools of Ancestry and I'll spend the afternoon plying through them. Your talk was informative, easy to grasp - even for me and I have so many, many DNA matches to sort. Thanks again and I will look forward to your next installment.

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

Watch the videos on grouping your DNA. It’s incredibly helpful.

My mother took the test, so all my matches to my mother say "Mother's Side". Meaning even though my father has passed, I know exactly which side all the cousins match on. Yet, I get Thru Lines suggesting my father's side for someone literally matching my mother in their own database. You can't exhibit the problem with Thru Lines any better than this.

Thank you for your clear explanation.

I love the Star analogy graphic.

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks June.

Great explanation. Thank you.

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

I love the fact that there is a complete set of photos of Herman and Frances plus children.

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

Me too!

Thank you for your easy to understand Thrulines information. I used it exactly as you advised and have found DNA matched 4th cousins which is going help fill some holes. thank you again.

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I am thankful for DNA results.

Hi. That was great info. I love learning about the ways of researching and how to apply them. Love your channel.

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Excellent explanation!!!!!

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you think so!

This was great. I had no idea what the through-lines were for.

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent. We learn something new everyday.

Great video. I love thru-lines. Some cautions. As you said, DNA doesn’t lie - people do and they make mistakes...and they copy trees....many of which were copied from the same tree with the same mistake. (Don’t just copy other people’s trees - or at least verify.). Ex: I make a mistake. 10 distant cousins copy my tree. We all line up at the common ancestor from my mistaken tree. We all link up...at the wrong person or couple who are not actually our ancestor. How can we tell and use thru-lines to discover mistakes? Go to the next level. The common ancestors parents. Do we all line up with the parents other known children? If not and they had many kids - likely error in the ancestor or the assumed parents. This is especially true when several people lived in same area with same name. Here’s another very similar. Other cousins linking our ancestor to wrong parent and thru-lines gives the suggestion. But hmmm doesn’t make sense. But geez, I have DNA matches from several kids of that suggestion. Must be correct? No! Don’t assume it’s correct! It could be that you simply link to those distant cousins through a completely different line. These are real examples from me. I had an ancestor who was born in Va but lived most of his life in TN and died there. A person combined him with a man of same name and age to a man that died in VA, and it was copied over and over. Theu-lines suggests the parents. Coincidentally, I have many DNA connections with those parents other children. Geez. Must be right? No! When I study all those cousins from the other children, none of them match that line. They are coming from another line which I confirmed. Be careful and verify. Don’t assume.

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

So true. Thanks for sharing.

@kaypatterson1742

3 жыл бұрын

Yes,yes,yes. I have a couple of these but the most egregious involves my 2ggrandp. The trick is that we don’t know who either of their sets of parents are. No one prefers to believe that, so the incorrect parentage lingers, despite my having shared death records that dispute the claim. I wanted to take them off my Thrulines, then remembered you saying “it’s not your tree.” So I moved on and just ignored them. Thanks for this session, Connie!

@margaretmathis4775

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. I have one relative who is extensively into Genealogy, so one would assume that she has done her homework. Sure, my DNA matches everyone in our immediate families (we are 2nd cousins), but anything past our great grandmother only connects via Thrulines.

Love yr channel. Your so clear and explain slowly 🙂 thank you. What interests me is say 8cm sharing on thru lines. If thru lines is just suggestions based on peoples trees on Ancestry then how accurate is their shared 8cm on thru lines.??

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

8 cM is the bottom threshold. I usually don’t use anything less than 20 cM unless I have to. As long as you have enough cousin matches, I would not worry about cousin matches at 8 cM. Focus on the cousin match list more than ThruLines.

I have a tree for my mothers side and another tree for my father’s side. Is it possible to unlink my mom’s tree and link my fathers tree so I can view his info on thru lines?

I can see my Moms Thrulines but nothing shows up for my Dads is there anything that can be done to fix that

I call them Untrue Lines. If I used only Thrulines I would have an extremely erroneous family on the far back lines. If everyone had the same erroneous info in their trees it taints the Thrulines. It's ok for the more recent relatives but beware after that.

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

Fair enough. Keep in mind that everyone's experience with Thrulines is going to be different. You likely have DNA cousins with errors in their trees throwing off your view of ThruLines. Again, it's just a hint feature. Use it for clues and decide which clues are valuable to your research.

@joannathesinger770

3 жыл бұрын

Thrulines are only as accurate as what others have--or have not--added in their trees. There is one of my father's lines that had absolutely incorrect information added to it that has since been debunked by Y-DNA tests yet people are loath to remove incorrect information without being able to replace it with something else. I HAVE had o-n-e useful hint that led me to a 3rd great-grandmother's parents/siblings and that was delightful!!!

I have been stuck on my 3rd great grandfather born in 1816 Germany. He arrived here in 1833 according to the census. I can't find the name of his parents or what boat he came here on. Please help???

Can I use ThruLines as proof of a link to apply to the Mayflower society. I can't find any birth or christening records for my GG grandmother. That link is needed to apply to the Mayflower Society.

I just today watched your video on the ThruLines. I have been using ThruLines to some success, but recently ran into some confusing information that has shown up. So I needed a refresher and watched the video. I have a question about how you moved from the DNA Match with a common ancestor directly (it seems) to the ThruLine graphic? I realize that your video was aired in May, and now it is December. Did Ancestry change the way you move to that graphic or am I missing something? When I click on the Common Ancestor tag, all i get is the DNA match information with that person. If I want to see how they fit in with Through Lines I have to actually open the ThruLines and go to the Ancestor I think that person and I are in Common with and then look at it. I like the way it appears in your video, what am I doing wrong? thanks John

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

Hi John. I've read your note several times and I'm still not clear on you question. I think I know what you're asking. If you are in the DNA Match screen where you are matched with one person (says so at the top of the screen with you and the other person circles on top), the left column says Common Ancestors (if you have a common ancestor with that person), and the cousin matches mini tree on the right... if you click on the Common Ancestry "View Relationship" on the left side column, it will take you to the Thrulines screen. I found a place at about 17:35 in the video I clicked on Common Ancestor and it goes directly to the Thrulines screen... What you don't see. is I think I edited out the step described above in the interest of time. Either that or they have changed the way it works now. If that is what you are asking, I understand your confusion.

Thank you Herb i.

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

:)

I liked the DNA circles better . At least they used common DNA to match you and not questionable trees . Your thrulunes matches are your cousins but not necessarily thru the thrulines common ancestor . I have potential ancestors on thrulines that I know 100% do not even exist , because I added them to my tree early in my research . Later I deleted them from my tree but since other people copied my tree input they are still in my thrulines 3 years later

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

I should really update this episode. But I hear you.

Can you please make a video about what the dna will look like when cousins marry each other. I’m so confused, I have a lot of family members who did this so I’m having trouble with the dna matches.

I keep coming up with matches on my father's side when they should be on my moms side. Getting a little frustrated on how to find the right line to follow.

I have not found this to be the case. My ThruLines are based on someone else's data that is not correct for my family. My ThruLines has 0 (zero) DNA connections to the person who is supposed to be my 3rd, 4th or 5th great grandparent according to ThruLines. My DNA testing shows someone completely different from my ThruLines. Please explain this problem.

Your channel is very informative, Ive been researching my family history for 35 years and there is always something to learn and new avenues to search. I have watched your video and still have a question. WHat do we do with this part of DNA true lines. This is where I get lost. I go to the DNA tab then to TruuLines. When I scroll down a box shows up for a potential Paternal great grandfather. The text there says, You are currently the only tested descendant connection to this TrueLine. It suggest I evaluate relationship paths. I contacted a person relating to the tree of that tree and we could not make a connection based on what that person knows. Can you help me understand this. TY

@GenealogyTV

Жыл бұрын

This is challenging b/c I can't see exactly what you are talking about. Remember that Thrulines is only hinting at what the possible relationships are. They do this by what other trees suggest and by the network of DNA they are seeing. It is only a suggestion. This is where traditional genealogy research comes in, to find the paper trail that either matches or doesn't match what Thrulines is suggesting. If it is correct, then you could add that relative from Thrulines. Click the Evaluate button on the potential ancestors to see what records or member trees they are suggesting you review. I hope that helps.

I have cousins who match DNA wise as closer cousins to me on my dad’s side than they actually are because the grandson of his paternal great grandmother’s brother married his mother’s (my grandmother’s) sister. Due to the variances of DNA distribution the brothers (3 of the 7 kids have done the test with Ancestry) show differently related to me in DNA matches (one shows as a probable 1st cousin the other two as probable 2nd cousins). If I didn’t already know how they were related to me before without ThruLines I might plop the brothers as being uncle and nephews instead due to the different implied relationships.

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

This is why we don't rely on DNA alone, but also combine it with traditional genealogy whenever possible. Good points. Thanks for sharing.

Thank you for an excellent video. Just a comment on the way Ancestry is showing the ThruLines - wouldn't it be more accurate to show the ancestral couple of Herman Madsen/Franciska Jensen as the link, rather than Herman and Franciska as individual suggestions? As Herman and Franciska as the most recent common ancestor, the DNA could be a combination of Herman and Franciska's DNA. Does that make sense or am I getting confused?

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting point. But I’m Frances’ case she was the only child when her mother died and the her father remarried and had a bunch of kids. So the ThruLine for the next generation back would be different for Frances half siblings.

@joantaylor8663

4 жыл бұрын

What I was trying to say is that Frances and Herman are the most recent common ancestral couple for you and your cousin. So rather than show Frances and Herman as individual truline suggestions, the DNA you and your cousin share could have come from a combination of their DNA or just from either Frances or Herman. The fact that Frances' father remarried does not change the DNA you and your cousin received. Sorry, I am not trying to be pedantic, I enjoy all your videos and have learnt a lot from them. However, I am new to DNA and I am just trying to get my head around it all. I don't understand your comment about the next generation back. Why would that have any impact on the DNA you and your cousin share? My apologies for the long winded comment.

Does Ancestry associate your matching segments with the common ancestor found between your trees? Or does Ancestry stop at simply determining that you and the tree match have some sort of DNA match? For close cousins examined in this case study, there is little question about how you are related. When looking at 5th and 6th cousins you could have a suspected tree link, but a DNA link with an entirely different person. Or does Ancestry include some assessment of the specific DNA segments (which we cannot see because Ancestry does not provide a chromosome browser)?

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

Greg... that is a really good question. I will ask Ancestry. Here's what I know. They combine the member family trees with the predicted DNA (cM) to estimate the Thrulines. In some cases, they show more than one possibility or Thruline. If you go to the cousin matches and click on a specific match you can get more detailed DNA information. For example, here is what I pulled off of the page where I'm matched with a first cousin. 11% shared DNA | 737 cM across 29 segments Unweighted shared DNA: 737 cM Longest segment: 56 cM So you can see they are looking at the number of segments and the longest segment. If that has a factor in how they put Thrulines together or not, I don't know. I'll see if I can find out. Good question!

Hello Constance. I enjoy your videos and they are very informative. I didn’t see an email address listed, so here is my question. I have 10 great-great uncles/aunts who have the same parents. Why would 6 of them (and their descendants) be listed as “half” relatives? I only see the term “half” when using through lines. Note - I had to correct their relationship earlier yesterday because they had the incorrect mother listed. Does it take time for through lines to update?

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Joel. If you're seeing half siblings, then it's likely that those 6 have one different parent. Either 6 of them share the same mother, or father... and the other 4 share the same mother or father. Study the death and marriage dates of the parents. Are there children born before they married? Alternatively, she could have had an affair and had children by an unknown/secret father. Don't rely on Thrulines to give you the answer. You'll need to investigate the reality. Create one timeline with every person in that clan and see what you learn.

@joelpaige3324

4 жыл бұрын

@@GenealogyTV thanks Constance. Here's the real question, is Ancestry.com intuitive and can therefore determine that information is incorrect? All 10 siblings have the same parents listed within ancestry.com . Maybe the parental information right, maybe it's not but how would ancestry.com know that?

@truthoverfictionii5760

2 жыл бұрын

@@joelpaige3324 DNA don't lie. My daughter took a test and my brother. He is down as her half uncle. Why? Because we have the same mother but different fathers. So I guess the computer knows.

Hi Connie, One more "ThruLines" question... My direct great grandfather or his brother had a son out of wedlock and has been discovered exclusively by DNA matches. That’s exciting! However, when I look at 'thrulines,' Michael W. Hearn - the illegit son, has 4 dna descendant matches with me through Kendal B., my gr. grandfather, at 15-25cM. However, if I check 1 generation further back, then over to my gr. grandfather's brother, James R. I find 1 dna descendant match with the same Michael W. Hearn, but at 115cM... a much stronger match! However, the other 4 matches at 15-25cM, which is through my gr. gr. grandfather do not show up in this match! I’m curious, if they are related to me through my gr. grandfather, wouldn’t they also be related through his brother, but possibly at a strong cM number? Since the cM is higher through my gr. grandfather’s brother, I would guess he’s the father instead of my gr. grandfather!?! Any thoughts?

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

Briefly... possibly. To be sure you would need to research all persons in the Thruline (plus FAN club) for both scenarios to ensure there are not half relationships that would skew the results... or cousins marrying cousins. I have coaching options if you want to give that a try. Here is a link with more information. genealogytv.org/coaching-options/

@JayHearn-HighlanderGlory

3 жыл бұрын

@@GenealogyTV Ok... Thanks again!

hello = i am trying to help my adopted son find his family. we have a number of second cousin matches and have made a good tree.. BUT we don't know where to put him (yet) .. HOw do I do thrulines without putting him in it? CAn I put him in a 'guessed' spot?

@GenealogyTV

Жыл бұрын

I would not put him in guessing where it goes. It's fruitless in my opinion. In short, a true 2nd cousin means that your son and this one 2nd cousin share great grandparents in common. So looking at the 2nd cousin, what great grandparents do they have and research their tree. Do the same with all second cousins. You'll start to build a web/tree that overlap. Watch this video... it may help see the overall strategy. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aW1muaqEcqy1qZc.html

Quick question…I am finding cousins that I didn’t know I had because those aunts/uncles were estranged from the family. Some of those cousins do not have their names listed, only their user names. Any suggestions how to add them to my family tree so that I can then link their DNA to mine?

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

Add them as floaters in the tree and research them until they connect. Search this channel for a video on the floating trees.

I haven't seen an explanation of the dashed line versus a solid line that surrounds a cousin in thrulines and how to evaluate the thruline branch choices and this video does not mention this feature at all

Hi Connie I know that my 3 maternal g/mother was born Ireland and died Australia 1832. my confusion is on thrulines, her mother is a Margaret Mollie Durham born and died USA so I don't get it. Is this thrulines relationship based on DNA ? I love your presentations too, David

@GenealogyTV

Жыл бұрын

Don’t rely on Thrulines to match your traditional tree. It is a hint feature, showing possible relationships. It’s built on the backs of other peoples trees in combination with DNA. If somebody else’s tree is wrong then TruLines could be wrong. Focus on the records and build the DNA connections yourself based on traditional genealogy. Overtime TruLines may correct itself when you do.

She stated that there were only descendants of two of the eight children who have had their DNA tested and that is not always correct. She only shares DNA with descendants of two of the eight children. It is possible that there are descendants of some of the other children, but she does not share DNA with them. It is unlikely as close as that ancestor was in her video, but as you get deeper into your ancestry it is much more likely to happen. It is a real good video and shows all of the new screens. She did a great job of explaining how ThruLines can work for you.

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Dennis. In part you are correct, that Thrulines is only showing the cousins that I share DNA with... but in this case the cousins 1st and 1C1R are close enough that it would be very unlikely that a cousin would not show. Maybe if there were half cousins etc. but it would be a stretch that they would not show. Had this example been further back in time, then yes... it is possible.

@truthoverfictionii5760

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, how did you figure that out. I'm new to the DNA scene.

My thrulines doesn’t seem to be working. Not many of my matches have our common ancestor in their tree, so could this be the reason? I am being told by thrulines that I have a connection with an ancestor I have in my tree, and it shows me a straight line down to me.

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

It might be that you’re the only person working on that line and have a DNA test with Ancestry. You would need two things for a ThruLine like I showed... one is another Cousin who has tested with Ancestry AND they would have to have the same ancestor in their tree for you to see a ThruLine.

@lisamaraszek6599

3 жыл бұрын

@@GenealogyTV This was the biggest take-away I got from your video. Thank you!

Hi im just wondering if you know how to search for ppl who were from Germany im trying to find out about my great grandfather who was German but we know nothing of his family at all cant find any records for them or able to understand them. Is there a way to search German records with a translation?

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

MyHeritage is the only company that I know that has many languages. You might try them.

If a person shows up on thurlines are you automatically related by DNA ? If you put a person you think is your parent in your tree, will thrulines automatically put them as a parent or only if they are your DNA parent. Thankyou

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

The genetic connection (cM) is real but how you connect is only as good as the man made trees. So if your tree is guessing at the parent then the ThruLine may not be correct.

@pearlbubbles6885

4 жыл бұрын

@@GenealogyTV Thank you

My thru lines is exact through GG, however, beyond that, it is hard to verify. It shows English ancestry, which I was unaware of. How reliable is this? I have taken the DNA test, and have traced many, many ancestors. Thanks.

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

Eileen. Think if ThruLines as hints to records or other trees. You need to evaluate the evidence. ThruLines is built on other member trees, so it is only as good as those trees. While it is not expected to be accurate, it is a great place to find clues as to where to look. You'll need to verify the links just like you would verifying a record to see if is correct.

Question - It is very common for me to find 4th great grandparents and up through thrulines, but I am unable to find them in anyone's tree. I spent a couple of days once trying to find out whose tree someone was in and was unable to. Is there an algorithm that creates the thrulines other than just collective trees?

@GenealogyTV

Жыл бұрын

It might be that descendants of that person have not tested... or... they haven't yet discovered your ancestor in their own tree. You might be the first one.

@janeaustin3479

Жыл бұрын

@@GenealogyTV thank you 😊

I have a question concerning ThruLines, some of the grandparents on my daughter's tree is not included as a Thru Line. It's basically one line of my mother's father's side of the tree. None of the grandparents from that line is listed at all.

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

ThruLines is built on the backs of other member trees collectively. You will see a lot of differences from one DNA kit to another... and over time. Use only for hints, not as a fact.

What if I don't have the common ancestor in my tree? Is there a good way to find the most probable common ancestor in a big tree from one of my distant cousins?

@auntnana355

2 жыл бұрын

So what you're saying is. Because I've already filled out my tree, right or wrong, THRULINES has now designated your desendants as your desendants,right or wrong. Isn't that sort of like cutting the end of a blanket and sewing it to the other end and calling it a new blanket.?!

@GenealogyTV

Жыл бұрын

That is a complicated answer. I'd work the paper trail first... and the DNA match list to search their trees for clues. Remember ThruLines is just a hint feature.

When you first clicked on Carol M's tree, you see the thru-lines above the tree. I do not see this. Is this a beta feature? This is about 8:14 min. into the video.

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the time mark... it helps. I don't believe this is a beta feature, but it might be different depending on if you have a Thruline with the cousin you clicked on.

@oneway2truth

4 жыл бұрын

Linked trees. Aren't you concerned with identity theft from such public info and people who mine personal info?

What does it mean when some Thru!ines have a dotted border instead of a solid border? Are these just suggested connections? I have quite a few like this on my maternal side, but I can’t find them in my tree so don’t know if they are actually connected with me by DNA.

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

Dotted lines mean they are not in your tree. You can click the evaluate button and a side panel will pop up. Review the records (if there are any suggested from other trees). If it looks like the records support the connection, then import them into your tree. Good question. I may do a video about this.

@margaretmathis4775

2 жыл бұрын

@@GenealogyTV Thank you! So, if I understand ThruLines correctly, these people may or may not be related through DNA, but could be on my list because another family member linked them on their trees (whether correctly or incorrectly)? Yes, please, a segment on this would be helpful!

@davekeating.

2 жыл бұрын

@@GenealogyTV Feedback and one suggestion. My ThruLines is full of potential distant ancestors “suggestions.” Difficult to ignore those bright green boxes with distracting dotted borders. However, they never go away. There should be a way of turning them off like one can ignore/dismiss regular hints? I examined everyone, as you do, and quickly discovered they are all bogus. The suggestions are incorrect people in the trees of my DNA matches. The errors are obvious to me as I live in country of our common ancestors, Ireland. You know, just because you are born in a stable doesn’t make you a horse ; )

What if the other cousins have someone connected that you don't think is the ancestor? Like what if 6 of my cousins have Jane Smith listed as our great grandmother but I think it is wrong because she would have had to have been in her 50's when she gave birth?

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

Well... Thrulines is just a hint feature. So if you treat it like a record that does not match then I would just ignore it. You could research it thoroughly to make sure that you are not wrong.... Write a proof argument, add it to your online tree, then reach out to the others and suggest they take a look at your evidence and conclusions. If they don't respond, let it go and move on with happier research. :)

My tree is linked, but I don’t see the blue dots on mine. What am I missing?

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure. It might depend on your tree... or your DNA connections. I realize that is vague, but I'm just not sure in your situation.

When would a Thruline-person's ancestors 𝘯𝘰𝘵 have the blue Thruline icon? If a person is a member of a Thruline, aren't all his/her ancestors also automatically part of the Thruline?

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

That's a great question. There might be a couple of possibilities... one is a half relationship... so the person without the icon might not be genetically connected but married into the line? Another thought is that since Thrulines is built from other member trees... there may be errors in the other trees. That's a good question... I don't know for sure.

I am from Jamaica. My cousin Ken Steffenson has 3 Madsen from Denmark- Ane Kirstine Madsen 1842, Lars Madsen 1655 & Lars Christian Madsen 182o-1886.

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

All common names, but you never know...

I'm good with this explanation; however, I need information about the EVALUATE listings in Green-- People are "matching" my well researched ancestor with a very very common name--and then this attributes the tree that puts my ancestor wrongly in their tree--- so it is asking to EVALUATE-- this I get... but I can find no way to say NO this person is NOT linked to my tree because this source data, that source data, etc --my only way to be in touch, that I am aware of, is to message the person who wrongly put my ancestor in their tree---- How do I stop this from continuing because people in OTHER trees will add my ancestor wrongly to their tree.... I hope this makes sense. I can get no help when I call Ancestry on this

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

This is a common question. I’ll make a note to ask Ancestry next time I talk to them.

@junebutka6571

4 жыл бұрын

I leave a comment in my Comment section of my tree. "Caution, Same name, Location and similar family names. Timeline your tree to verify this is the correct person." I also send a note/message to the other tree manager about my thoughts and why.

The ThruLines Icons slider button is greyed out. Why is that?

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

That's one I don't know. You might try Ancestry Support. I wish I could help.

It is great...I do not only ancestors of but descendants of so I can find all my cousins who have done DNA test and placed him in my tree precisely. Which also confirms all my research

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

Just keep in mind that Thrulines is only as good as the trees it gets its data from.

@michaelrochester48

3 жыл бұрын

Genealogy TV But if I do the research and I check obituaries and any type of primary and secondary sources and it matches with thru lines I’m pretty confident I did pretty good research

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent.

@lisamaraszek6599

3 жыл бұрын

@@GenealogyTV So as a newbie with DNA, am I correct to assume that it's best to just grab info/hints from thrulines, only from the trees that belong to people you know and trust? (makes sense, right?)

I really like Thrulines. The problem for me is I have reached out with questions via message, and many times there is silence. People will not respond. I don’t get it.

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

Many people turned Messaging off. So they may not be getting your message.

@pattyh2410

3 жыл бұрын

@@GenealogyTV Maybe for some, but there is that little indicator “Read”, which makes up a majority of those who are silent.

so what do I do with the unlinked trees?

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

Research them until they link up with your main tree.

Before I even knew of your Danish ancestry, I thought you looked familiar. Turns out you bear more than a resemblence to Sandi Toksvig, a tv presenter here in the United Kingdom who is in fact Danish herself.

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting. LOL

How long have DNA tests been available to the general public ? Surely these cannot suggest ancestors who haven't been DNA tested and only one or two generation of recent family would be highlighted. Secondly if I don't get DNA tested in Ancestry are my searches for my family pointless.. or at best restricted.

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

DNA at Ancestry has been around since 2012... so not that long. I recommend testing at Ancestry first because they have more to match to (20 million DNA test takers) than any other. You can always transfer the DNA to another site later.

How do I link dna results and tree?

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

Good question. Here is what I found on Ancestry's support page. support.ancestry.com/s/article/Linking-an-AncestryDNA-Test-to-a-Tree?language=en_US

I can’t find any of those pages your clicking on.

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

This is an older video, so it might have changed since it was recorded.

Facinating. Such a clear explanation of Thrulines. Thanks Connie. I'm adopted and am still waiting for feedback from my freedom of information request which has been delayed due to Covid-19. I have been corresponding with a first cousin I was linked to through DNA, whose mother, (my Aunt?) has no idea about me. She has a brother and a sister, (one of whom might be my parent), but as my 'Aunt' emigrated from Ireland to America when she was 20 leaving her younger siblings behind, she has no idea if they had a 'secret child' (ie me), so I have to wait until my freedom of information comes through and hope there is a name or some details there to confirm or deny the connection with this 'Aunt' with whom I share 1,750 Cm. Luckily I am not desperately seeking my birth family, as I had a great upbringing. I am mildly curious but am realistic and realise I may well still be a 'secret' and may never find out who my birth parents are.

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

Fascinating story. Keep me posted please. I'd love to follow your journey.

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

And thanks for the compliments!

@jmk1962

4 жыл бұрын

@@GenealogyTV - Will do.

Very Good!... 175 🐄🦉✝

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

We are the result of a thousand loves

Through lines gave me one of the biggest shocks. And I didn’t even have this person in my tree!!

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

Make sure you verify the connections with documents. It might be someone else has it wrong in their tree, thus it might be showing you a false connection.

Come on everyone!! Get Connie to 100k subbies 😁😁

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

Ah thanks. I appreciate you.

I am so sorry but I find your video to be most confusing as in the case of the Ancestry site. Is there a video about the site giving simple and short information in simple language that anv one can understand to help them use the site

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

I hear you. Perhaps I need to do a video on the AncestryDNA basics. When this video was produced, ThuLines was brand new. I'll give this some thought. Thanks for the feedback.

What happens when ThruLines predictions are wrong. I have a case on Mom’s side and another case on Dad’s side of the family. All because someone puts wrong information in their tree, and it gets copied all over the place, even by people that don’t have any connection to my tree.

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

Yes... well there is nothing you can really do. Try to treat ThruLines like a hint feature... Just like any other record like a marriage record that is not the right record for your family, then you ignore it. Same goes for ThruLines... it's just hinting, based on others trees (right or wrong). Over time, it my correct itself when enough people have corrected their trees. Ancestry is aware that ThruLines can be incorrect at times. I asked them in a meeting, if they could somehow allow us to ignore incorrect information in ThruLines. They basically said, that's a good idea... but they don't know they can do it. It's a very complicated algorithm to make work for everyone.

If it wasn't for ThruLines, I would have never learned a great gramma was married before, had a son from 1st marriage, & he lived in same small town in PA as my grandfather! But we never knew of this uncle's existence. 🤯 yeah mind blown

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thank is mind-blowing. This is the power of DNA research!

I connect to Donald W Madsen son on my ancestry just was curious on so I typed his name in and it lists him as a 5th-8th cousin

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

The same as my Madsen?

@MCW110891

3 жыл бұрын

@@GenealogyTV yes ma'am he is standing in front of a plane in his picture. I only connect to 2 other Madsen's . I can narrow down the relation through our shared matches being from my mom's side

@MCW110891

3 жыл бұрын

@@GenealogyTV but my family is really scattered out so I'm not surprised. Both of my grandmothers had 13 brothers and sisters even on my dads side I have a grandfather 5 generations back that had 17 children between two sisters that all lived to adulthood . There was a book on the family originally done in the 60s he called everyone up asking who their cousins were who their brothers and sisters were. The Book is titled Moak and Related Families of South Carolina you can type it in at Google and it's free to view. They are in fact redoing that book were members of the Moak lineage are submitting information. We are over 200 followers currently. But I like to check random names I see because we are so scattered in alot of ways. In my line though I'm twice related to alot of them as one of my ancestors 17 children had a son who had an additional 20 children with 4 wives of one of the 20 children he had he had a daughter that wound up marrying one of her my 5 great grandfather whom was one of the 17 children (Uncle and Niece) on my grandmother (The nieces side) her mother had 2 sisters that were married to two of the other 17 children. Twice relations are very common in my line and get confusing the more I go deeper

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

Too much fun... Enjoy the Jouney.

@MCW110891

3 жыл бұрын

@@GenealogyTV oh I definitely do . It keeps me busy. Never Really thought about thru lines did but it explains why the upgraded from the DNAcircle they use to have

What I don't understand is that I have a Thru Lines connection with an incomplete tree. I could only take that particular line back to the Grandfather, and without knowing, I probably shouldn't have put a surname at all, as he was apparently adopted. (No adoption papers, but the records do dovetail, so I would say he was definitely adopted, by the married sister.) Thru lines have given two unknown ancestors before linking with a definite common ancestor with a 4th - 6th cousin 43 cM 1 segment. This is linked to Tom Bowling the donor's Father, yet Tom has been missed out in our tree! So it's back to the drawing board. I am about to make my own Thru-lines tree with 3 more cousins with the same ancestor. I will allow for 43 cMs not being that close. Even more, I have the Y DNA results which suggest we are Bowlings by adoption and surname. Amazingly, myself and another researcher had already suggested surrogacy as the sister who married a Bowling had no children after 8 years of marriage. However, who she married is a mystery, and I had theorised that he was a bigamist. The character whom I am accusing of bigamy shares the same common ancestor on Thru Lines.

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting. If you've not seen the episode on Floating Trees. you might take a look. It could help you with your DNA research as you start to manually work those DNA connections. Here is the video. kzread.info/dash/bejne/a4SEw6p8is3XebQ.html

@suelane3628

3 жыл бұрын

@@GenealogyTV A big thank you.

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure.

If your tree is incorrect then Thurlines could be wrong?

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

Possibly or not f any of the other trees of the dna cousins in that view means it might show incorrect.

How did you figure out That your Great Grandfather's Father was a davis? Or did Rebecca just marry a Davis? I have a female ancestor who had a child out of wedlock and I want to find who is sperm donor was.

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

It’s a long story.

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

I figured it out through DNA.

I have a through line for my Dad's side but not my Mom's, same with my cousin on my Mom's side. Nothing for our Mom's what gives??

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

I can only guess that on your Mom's side there aren't other DNA cousins that have the same common ancestor in both your tree and their tree. That's what makes the connection.

@trudymaenza9672

4 жыл бұрын

@@GenealogyTV I have first cousins that they say are second cousins, and I have over 500 or more 2nd, 3rd and 4th cousins on my Mom's side that they say are dna matches. Go figure!

You know wish they use thurlines on each tree would be more helpful. Thurlines work I used it on my tree with three generations of Adopted or Adophage children. Now it is link up to my DNA cousins on that side. But my BF side is to hard for anyone. Even I get confused by that side.

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

This is why I advocate for one tree... It is less confusing and you can only link a DNA test to one tree. If you really want DNA on another tree, you could buy another DNA test.

free trials of ancestry, are a psychological trap for seniors that have trouble retaining information! making it so effortlessly easy to get the free trial, but an impossible miriad of steps having to be navigated to cancel the free trial, that becomes binding into an automatic annual subscripton, and there should be legislation passed to end this type of promotions!

You have a lot of close cousins!

If you and Carol both share Herman as first common ancestor, wouldn’t you be 2nd cousins?

@GenealogyTV

6 ай бұрын

She is one generation older than me. She was my dad's first cousin... so technically she is my 1C1R.

@indyvin1622

6 ай бұрын

@@GenealogyTV I was under the impression that: determining the relationship isn’t two way, but in the perspective of the person asking asking…. She is your 2nd cousin but you are her 1st cousin once removed.. Because she traces the nearest ancestor to her grandparent… and you trace the nearest to your GGrandoarent…

I still don't see how this is any different from plain old matches. And after the 10th time of hearing you say "this is not a tree" I found myself yelling at my computer "I know it's not a tree. It's a map, the same map as shown on plain old matches!"

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. I guess my goal to make it clear worked. Sorry to frustrate you.

Thrulines assumed that I am a descendant of Jesse Chisholm or at least his wife. There’s a lot of coincidences that can prove it’s case. But even then I’m still doubtful.

Mads'E'n is is a Danish spelling. Mads'O'n would be Swedish.

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

Really? Good to know. Thank you.

Sounds good but I would never make my tree public

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

And that is just fine.

Since DNA can match family members then why can't thrulines dismiss false Ancestors and let you know why?

@-...Patricia...-

3 жыл бұрын

Say something along the lines of, your DNA doesn't match to known family members of the person you have included as your Grand Father, Parent etc.

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

Because Thrulines is using member trees where members have identified DNA matches within their trees. It's a hint system, not a tree.

I want to take a DNA test to find about my biological father that passed away. I was told that my father was adopted by his adoptive brothers. I want to know the best test. I want some information about my father's real parents. I'm black and back in the day the word adopted was thrown around loosely. Both of my parents are deceased. I want to know who really looks like me. I have always felt like I never fit in.

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

I understand Ellen. In your situation I recommend AncestryDNA. You'll have better odds given they have the largest DNA samples in the world. Once you get your test results back, you'll need to watch my latest episode about DNA Cousin Matches to help you figure out how to piece the genetic family tree together. Here is my affiliate link to AncestryDNA if that is something you choose to do. prf.hn/click/camref:1101l4aFW/creativeref:1011l28282

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

Ellen, Also watch this video to understand how this works for finding bio family using DNA results. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qKFtubSkqcSrYZc.html

@ellenlewis7057

4 жыл бұрын

@@GenealogyTV I will order my kit. Thank you so much.

Didn't take me long to get lost.

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry to hear that. What could I do to improve the explanation?

Thru lines is not terribly useful as most user's trees are incorrect. They rely on easy to click on hints from ancestry rather than verifiable primary sources.

@GenealogyTV

4 жыл бұрын

I suspect that every user has a different experience.

It's very frustrating when a Thruline is obviously wrong.

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

It’s not likely that ThruLines that is wrong, it’s the trees that it’s pulling data from. Think of it like a car... it’s not likely that it’s the car driving erratically, it’s the driver.

@manxkin

3 жыл бұрын

@@GenealogyTV Yes, that's exactly it. It's pulling data from a tree with a name match but is not a relative. Right name, wrong tree.

LOL. You have 1000+ 4th cousin or closer matches. I have 138.

@joefromravenna

2 жыл бұрын

Because of so few cousin matches my thrulines trees are mostly populated by my data.

@GenealogyTV

2 жыл бұрын

Oh boy. Well I wish you luck with the DNA stuff.

The only thing I got out of this was you pronounce Nina the same way my grandmother did, as in Nine-a, not Neena. Too much hopping around for me to follow, I will try to watch again later. But you lose me when you keep flipping back and forth to pages

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

Understood. I’ve slow down and more recent episodes. Thanks for the feedback.

Thrulines are often full of junk - connections to people with obvious wrong data and faulty trees.

@GenealogyTV

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, you need to look at it like you are reviewing hints, some are correct and some are not.