Analyzing the 2-Handed Pros: Jason Belmonte
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Let's take a look at some of the best two-handers on tour and determine what it takes to perform at that level. Starting with Belmo!
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New bowler, went from 99 last week to 205 tonight, been watching your videos for two handed bowling. Get my first ball next week, can’t wait to see how a reactive feels vs a house ball
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
205 with a house ball is quite impressive! Congrats! Thanks for watching!
@KaizenOz
Жыл бұрын
@@BigSkyBowler I bought my first reactive (tropical surge) and scored 68, feels pretty bad. lol - first time finger tips and I throw too slow so the ball was just hooking into the left gutter
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
@@KaizenOz yup a reactive ball is quite the change from a house ball. Your going to have to get used to trying to get the ball into the oil on your house shot if you want it to get any length down lane.
@KaizenOz
Жыл бұрын
@@BigSkyBowler I've been throwing from as far left as possible with the house and my speed is only 12-13mph, but Im guessing that will improve with time and footwork. I'll keep watching your channel and working at it :)
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
@@KaizenOz how far to the right are you trying to throw it? What is your target?
Very well made video, thank you for this.
@BigSkyBowler
4 ай бұрын
Thank you! You are welcome!
Very nice video Big Sky Bro! I am also thinking of the relaxed downswing tip a couple of days ago, then now you say it :D The straightened arm swing is caused by the relaxed arm swing.
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Thank you for watching and sharing!
Loved the video!
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
Great analysis thank you! Would love to see more of these soon! i definitely agree that belmo has one of the best forms. His balance, spine tilt and swing are truly world class. What is your opinion on the amount of control he has to change speeds at will for easier control. As for someone who is still fairly new to bowling (since March, also two handed) What are other tips and tricks for a more accurate shot?
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
Your welcome and thank you for watching! My opinion? His ability to control everything so smoothly when he needs to is exactly why he is the best bowler in the world. His physical game is just amazing and its what allows him to adjust everything as necessary. Back when he first came on tour he had less capability than he has now. This is a fine example of someone learning how to become the most versatile player on tour. He can bang it up the gutter when he needs to and he can get deep and slow hook it when he needs to. I would recommend watching my series on keys to the two handed game on my channel: kzread.info/head/PL0RuV1yjxFnYDGTplAn47pkqQ51uihxbn These videos include many different tips to helping two-handers become more consistent.
Nice video. Good work.
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
This is very helpful. Im trying to learn how to bowl like Belmo. That’s how I started out. So this video will be beneficial for me
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@AmericanGangstaSociety2023
Жыл бұрын
@@BigSkyBowler I can’t really do much to use it right now though. Once I’m able to, it will be very helpful
I always take my first step to the left, then go straight up during the skip step, I keep my hips open. If I don't keep my hips open, I will miss my mark inside every time. I also relax my arm on the swing, definitely helps get speed on the ball.
Started 2 handing a few months and shot my first sanctioned 700 series a few weeks ago!! Was originally a one hander so it’s been a transition
@BigSkyBowler
7 ай бұрын
Congrats!
@silverhandsss
7 ай бұрын
@@BigSkyBowler thank you! And I really liked your analysis on Belmo’s ball speed. The fastest I currently throw it at is 18 MPH and that’s me really trying. He makes it look effortless and now I can see why. It’s his arms being more relaxed and less tense. I’m going to have to implement that in my swing
@BigSkyBowler
7 ай бұрын
@@silverhandsss thank you!
Excellent description thanks!!! I’m working on this technique and could definitely use a coach if your interested!
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
Your welcome. I offer virtual lessons. You can sign up for a one time lesson or a lesson package through patreon. All the links are in my video descriptions!
Dope thanks
I'm switched to to hands because of an arm injury, this was just what I needed to get started.
@BigSkyBowler
10 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear of your injury. I'm glad I was able to help!
@Derek_1111
10 ай бұрын
I'm in the same boat. I injured my bicep pretty bad 4 weeks ago bowling for the 2nd time in years throwing a 2 finger hook with a house ball. I joined a warm up league to get back into bowling and my bicep was hurting within a few throws. However i ended the first game with a 231. I should had stopped but because of the good score I kept bowling and eventually had to switch to just a straight ball because my bicep was hurting so bad. Anyways woke up the next day with the bicep super swollen and been in recovery mode ever since. Been watching a bunch of two-handed bowling content and I believe that it would take a lot of pressure off the bicep and make it to where I can bowl again.
Cool videos! Can I request an analysis of Ryland Breese? He's got a trippy style and it would be cool to see it broken down 😊
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
Hmmm... I've never heard of him, but I'll take a look.
I just started transitioning to 2 handed this season, about 8 weeks in. You mentioned that most 2 handed bowlers don't plant their trail leg, and I found that rather odd. You didn't really dive into it, but was curious if there's more insight to this. I assume since I was a 1H bowler first, the classic mentality of driving my trail toe into the approach, just carried over, but I never even thought about it, until you mentioned it in this video. Just curious.
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
It really comes down to how much spine tilt you are using in your approach. If your not using much spine tilt, keeping the trail leg on the floor isn't too difficult. As your spine tilt increases, your trail leg naturally wants to come off the floor.
ありがとうございます!
It's interesting seeing Jason's style from the early days too, there's a short video of him from 1999 and his form was absolutely bonkers low compared to today. He really has refined his style alot
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. At a younger age he used to get very low with his tilt and his ball speed was insane.
@eurosimpliciti259
Жыл бұрын
@@BigSkyBowler absolutely. Same with osku I've noticed. Will be good to see your analysis on Osku's style, although will you delve into his one handed spares that he used to do? That always interested me. Apparently he just did it one day for fun and then decided to do it for most single pin spares
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
@@eurosimpliciti259 definitely! It's one of the things that sets him apart from most two handers
@eurosimpliciti259
Жыл бұрын
@@BigSkyBowler awesome! And yeah I totally agree. Being one of the only very few two handers in the UK, its good to have these videos to look at and analyse. I've recently switched back to my old one handed style for spares so will be good to see you covering that!
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
I tried that a while back but found out that it didn't really help my spare game much. Im much better at them using my normal two-handed release.
If I had to guess I would say belmonte steps off to the left to make sure he doesn't have to change his approach when he's going left and the ball returns in the way
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
Very possible. He did this a lot earlier in his career and could be plain habit.
Almost like a slingshot.
Looks like he’s just walking around the ball return. They should move those back.
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
No, he definitely does it every single approach if you study closely.
shoulder turn, think of your golf swing, backswing part
@BigSkyBowler
8 ай бұрын
Correct! I have a video where I discuss this in detail on my channel. kzread.info/dash/bejne/dp6Ctqp7n6m_fto.htmlsi=xS9_azjOScU9XhCT
Do you know what grip Belmo uses? Like does he use fingertip grip, semi fingertip or conventional grip?
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
I believe it's semi fingertip.
@wgmemes752
Жыл бұрын
@@BigSkyBowler Okay yeah I believe so to. I think it's interesting to know what different 2handed pros are using for grips
Hoping I can do it like Jason Belmonte for my Filipina Celebrity Crush
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
Not a bad goal!
Spine tilt doesn't increase shoulder extension.
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
You would be correct, because it's a combination of spine tilt and proper shoulder alignment. In the case of a two handed bowler, you cannot achieve a high back swing with just shoulder alignment. They work together.
@Carbivore67
Жыл бұрын
@@BigSkyBowler The majority of people are two-handed bowlers. I think you meant those who throw with two hands. But Belmonte actually throws with one hand/arm also, all he's doing is holding the ball longer with both hands before he releases with the right. His left hand does not assist to throw the ball anymore than the other 99 percent of traditional style bowlers.
@Carbivore67
Жыл бұрын
@@BigSkyBowler With this style of bowling, achieving a high back swing is not required.
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
Good luck achieving ball speed without a backswing that at least gets to your hip. That is, without muscling it.
Good clip, but the speeds you see on TV aren't at the pins, it's off the hand.
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
They have been using specto more and more often now so they are estimating off hand. In years past, it was always at the pins. Either way, you can usually calculate your speed off your hand easy with your speed from the pins. Speed at the pins + 2.
Where do you average a 267?
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
???? Not sure why your asking this?
@steve5354
Жыл бұрын
I might have miss read it but it says 267 average in your intro to the video
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
@@steve5354 ah, that's from one of my tournament vlogs from a regional I went to where EJ Tackett averaged 267 in qualifying. He hammered the field so to speak.
chris sloan next?
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
Another good one to add to the growing list!
9:36. He's not throwing with two hands. Yes he holds the ball with two hands for a very long time, but he still throws with just the right. The left hand drops off at the last second much like a jump shot in basketball.
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
Yes that's correct. I never said he was throwing or releasing the ball with two hands??
@Carbivore67
Жыл бұрын
@@BigSkyBowlerBut time and again we hear two hand bowler. Semantics I guess.
good video but clean your house up
@Cerus98
Жыл бұрын
Moms house from the looks of it 😉
I still can thelp but laught at two hand bowling... its so easy.
Please buy new glasses with anti-glare coating. The reflection of your monitor is distracting.
Hello there! I started 2 handed bowling about 2 months ago currently average arnd 100 highest 147. My main issue right now is that when I release the ball I sort of drop it and it loses a lot of energy. How do you release it properly and turn your fingers around the ball like Jason? Can I send u a pic of my bowling perhaps maybe you can help will mean the world tysm 😊 I average abt 18-19 mph on throw . I dmed you on insta too :))
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
I saw your message and responded to you.
ありがとうございます!
@BigSkyBowler
Жыл бұрын
And thank you!