Fun fact: Christian Bale saw Tom Cruise on the Late Show with David Letterman while preparing for his role in American Psycho. Cruise's "intense friendliness with nothing behind the eyes" became the inspiration for how Bale would portray the psychopathic murderer.

@kodiejc4202

3 жыл бұрын

no way hahahaha. He seems like a person who would lead in a cult 🤔

@grazielaalmeida8438

3 жыл бұрын

Tom Cruise has life in his eyes. Rosamund Pike has a lifeless creppy eyes and a cold beauty, not that she's a spycho.

@imcallingjapan2178

3 жыл бұрын

That makes perfect sense.

@joedatius

3 жыл бұрын

@@grazielaalmeida8438 an important aspect to remember about psychopathy is that the various traits that could lead to that type of person can be in just about anyone to varying degrees of intensity and not make them a psychopath and psychopathy won't make someone bad

@Zueperman

3 жыл бұрын

@@superrmrcool same, if someone knows, let us know ✌

Not gonna lie, this was one of the most brutal Batman prequels I've ever seen.

@Logic-ys7rw

3 жыл бұрын

Nah this is a sequel, after batman finally snaps

@novadark1

3 жыл бұрын

The bat who laughs

@justanotherbob69

3 жыл бұрын

This is more like an alternate universe where Bruce's parents live on and get a divorce

@Xehanort10

3 жыл бұрын

Bateman Begins would probably be the name of an American Psycho prequel.

@NobodyCaresALot

3 жыл бұрын

Patrick Batman. If I didn't say it, someone else would have! I'd like to see Paul Allen's comment.

I have always wondered if Patrick actually does anything at work. Throughout the movie he is never working. He simply sits there and watches tv.

@Sam_Sam2

2 жыл бұрын

It’s you! You make good videos

@Xehanort10

2 жыл бұрын

Probably not considering nepotism got him the job.

@Henry14arsenal2007

2 жыл бұрын

Why would they waste screen time on that. Id assume he does well at the workplace, he finished Harvard after all.

@flodzz

2 жыл бұрын

@@Henry14arsenal2007 assuming they do not show reality at no point in the movie makes me think all of this is in his head and he never killed, so it would make sense to show him actually working

@nivaldolemos5280

2 жыл бұрын

@@Henry14arsenal2007 and Harvard is much superior to that Yale thing.

I like the theory that Patrick Bateman’s father, who “practically owns the company” (Pierce & Pierce) knew exactly what his son was doing. He found out about what had happened in Paul Allen’s apartment, and as a member of the American elite, which billions of dollars and huge influence, sent in a “cleanup team”; hence why, when Patrick Bateman enters the apartment and it’s painted white and the bodies are removed, the realtor says “don’t go making any trouble now” and “don’t come back.” She knows, from his father, exactly what’s happened here, and is part of the operation to clean it up and protect Patrick and *most importantly*, keep his family name clean. It’s also written in the book that the place was full of flowers, and the scent of them was so strong it was all one could smell; implying strongly that the team were masking the smell of rotting flesh. The lawyer was also told about Bateman’s actions, and was asked and/or paid off by Bateman’s father to keep quiet about it and even deny Bateman’s confession to the murder of Paul Allen etc. It’s a satire, essentially, claiming that the American elite in the ‘80’s would rather cover up dozens of brutal murders than lose influence and status. It’s as if Bateman’s background and wealth and class will not allow him to be held accountable for his actions, no matter how desperately he wants recognition for these “achievements.” This all ties in with the general message of the story, and explains the realtor scene and the lawyer scene as well as Paul Allen’s disappearance, for which “it’s all in his head” is simply a poor-quality explanation. Think about it.

@nymphoflove

2 жыл бұрын

Make more sense if the buildings owner got rid of it. The clean up team wouldn’t speak to a realtor about their business.

@andrew4life362

2 жыл бұрын

Ok this is an excellent theory

@gramdalfthewhite

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if his father and / or family got rid of Detective Donald Kimball as well. He got too close, and may have been taken care of by someone other than Bateman, which would explain his absence at the end of the movie 🤔

@Speshls

2 жыл бұрын

It's likely the landlord just covered it up because it would drive down prices if there was a killing in her apartment, and the lawyer is covering for Patrick because he can't be assed to go to court and as Patricks lawyer is protecting him. The moral of the story is, is that everyone around Patrick is an equally awful psychopath just not killers.

@andreteapot5758

2 жыл бұрын

what about the shootout scene and the part before that with the cat?

Let's see Paul Allen's analysis.

@cossackgigachad9864

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my god, it even has movie audio

@kyle9489

3 жыл бұрын

He’s probably say something about Marcus

@hH-lc1to

3 жыл бұрын

@@cossackgigachad9864 this 😂

@udbhav5079

3 жыл бұрын

Look at that subtle Leto method acting, his expressions are flawless... oh my god, he has even memorized the entire script.

@GG-zk3vs

3 жыл бұрын

Perfection

I don't know what's more ironic. Christian Bale played a psycho character then became Batman. Or one of his victims became the Joker.

@lequack7399

3 жыл бұрын

That Joker is far from iconic though.

@williamseneyjr.6277

3 жыл бұрын

That was not The Joker. That was a thug trying way too hard to play "pretend".

@cloudsombrero

3 жыл бұрын

@@williamseneyjr.6277 wrong

@burtbiggum499

3 жыл бұрын

@@williamseneyjr.6277 The only thing iconic about that Joker was how bad he was

@Jay-Jones

3 жыл бұрын

Neither. Neither of those things are ironic. Both are, in fact, coincidence.

Patrick is obsessed with Ed Gein because Norman Bates (the original Character from Hitchcock's Psycho that Patrick is an evolution of), Leatherface, and Wild Bill from Silence of the Lambs are all based on Ed. The real Ed Gein lured and victimized women like Patrick Bateman, he made furniture out of skin and bone like Leatherface, he made and wore a full body skin suit like Wild Bill, and while wearing said skin suit he'd allegedly danced around in his yard (like the end of Texas Chainsaw Massacre) and pretended to be his dead mother (like Psycho). Real life Ed has been the fucked up blueprint to half of every major iconic movie psychopath in our modern culture, so it makes sense Patrick feels a personal connection to him.

@romistymiest7994

2 жыл бұрын

however ed didn't actually kill that many people, most of the bodies found in his house were dug up from a graveyard

@funnyguy6197

2 жыл бұрын

he really only killed 2 women, and definitely not in the sadistic sort of way that bateman does

@leonvic

2 жыл бұрын

What the fuck

@milesjolly6173

2 жыл бұрын

Ed Gein also had a difficult relationship with his mother. He basically worshipped her and thought she could do no wrong. She was deeply religious and taught her son that all women apart from her were evil. So that must’ve fucked him up. When she died I think I read that he left her bedroom in their home exactly as it was when she was alive, and never entered it.

@Sophie_Pea

2 жыл бұрын

@@milesjolly6173 he also grew up essentially deprived of any societal connections aside from his family, so a lot of the time he didn't exactly know the difference between what was accepted and what wasn't. He would read in the newspaper about grave robbings, and mightn't have picked up on how messed up that actually is. And he would say really dark things in a joke-ish but also serious sort of way but nobody really took it seriously, they all just took it as a joke. It still doesn't excuse what he did though, fucked up is fucked up

Out of all the murders, I felt so bad for the homeless dude

@someretard7809

Жыл бұрын

yeah and the dog after. It was even more brutal and descriptive in the book

@kainkong274

Жыл бұрын

@@someretard7809 yeah, is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more of an evil scumbag in the book, he is only a serial killer in the movie but the book he is a serial killer, cannibal, rapist, necrophile and torturer, is an inhumane individual with zero redeeming qualities, he also slices the throat of a 4 y/o

@darksideofevil13

Жыл бұрын

He's far worst in the book. He kills a kid at the zoo and forces his girlfriend to get multiple abortions via physically abusing her whenever she refuses.

@basicallyb3904

Жыл бұрын

Somehow he’s glorified too

@gamerstheater1187

Жыл бұрын

He didn't kill the homeless dude, he sees him again and it turns out he never harmed him.

"a monster could be sitting right next to you, at this very moment" Looks at cat: 👀

@CorporateComedy

3 жыл бұрын

O.O

@wholesomekeanureeves9466

3 жыл бұрын

Im pretty sure cats are secret psychopaths

@basedchad6035

2 жыл бұрын

they are so cute fluffy small soft and harmless. they couldnt do anything even if they are small psychopaths

@wholesomekeanureeves9466

2 жыл бұрын

@@basedchad6035 trust me an angry cat can fuck you up 😅

@bogstrider0009

2 жыл бұрын

“could be sitting right next to you at this very moment.” I don’t see anybody

Hey, I'm a child of divorce, gimme a break!

@GibsonReal

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@DacLMK

3 жыл бұрын

So, when will you be back from returning some videotapes?

@skeletonyouth616

3 жыл бұрын

so did you kill those people or not

@kriss9161

3 жыл бұрын

teach me ur dance moves

@endlessfreedomful

3 жыл бұрын

do you have some video tapes to return?

Best line of the whole movie is when Patrick breaks into Paul Allen's house and....... "There is a moment of sheer panic when I realize that Paul's apartment overlooks the park and is obviously more expensive than mine."

@teamfingahs4907

2 ай бұрын

I’d throw up not getting married to Evelyn “I can’t take time off work.” Up there too.

I think that music is Patrick’s love of music comes from how closely music is tied with emotion, something he lacks. It’s a way for him to *kinda* experience that one thing that’s missing from his life. It’s like a blind person listening to someone describe how beautiful the world is. They can’t see it for themselves, but they can imagine what it *would* be like to be able to see it.

@jenniferle8294

Жыл бұрын

good point!

@brocklanders3616

Жыл бұрын

I struggle with emotion/being emotionless. Music is the closest I come to feeling something genuine and true. Even in relationships, I feel nothing but lust and self gratification.

@AreUmygrandson

Жыл бұрын

You are spot on. The majority of the time, when listening to music is the only time I feel emotions

Crazy how Patrick is 27 and lives in a gorgeous, high-rise apartment and I'm 26 and live in an awful studio. Although considering the movie takes place in 1987 our rents might actually be the same.

@libertatemadvocatus1797

3 жыл бұрын

It's made very clear in the book (and briefly mentioned in the movie) that he comes from a very wealthy family. He's gifted with a high-paying job and his father hands him the rest.

@low-keyrighteous9575

3 жыл бұрын

Be thankful for your studio bud. I'm 30 and live with my aunt in her house. That sounds even worst when I see it written out . ..

@Shadow77999

3 жыл бұрын

What the point you are trying to make here?? Dont forget there are even people double his age that are living with their parents or triple and dont even have a roof to sleep under. Dont forget hes the son of a disgustingly rich father as well. And you also dont seem to have learnt anything from the movie as well. Falling victim to consumerism and status bs yourself

@lewisner

3 жыл бұрын

Some 27 year olds are living in abject poverty or in prison. Everything is relative. If you have good health and can pay the rent you are doing OK.

@MarcillaSmith

3 жыл бұрын

Not to speak for my cousin John, but I think his point was about (the intentional) inflation (of the economy by and for the benefit of certain people) and the reduction in wealth for the 99%, even as the economy as a whole continues to grow

My favourite line is: "I Gotta Return Some Videotapes" I'm using that quote every time when somebody asks me where I'm going, or what I will be doing later on, and I don't want to answer.. Unfortunately no one ever gets it.

@NikolaTheIlluminator

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahah epic

@trevorwinn5012

2 жыл бұрын

I love that line too !

@arujyavz2404

2 жыл бұрын

''They don't have a good bathroom to do coke in'' is what I always use after taking a piss, the look on some peoples faces is priceless

@oliwierkuczynski5242

2 жыл бұрын

@@arujyavz2404 That's good man, it made me smile :)

@stee8345

2 жыл бұрын

I do the same

I found out that when Willem Dafoe for doing his scenes, three takes of each were done: One where he knows Patrick is the killer, one where he suspects he is, and one where he doesn't suspect a thing. The editors then put bits and pieces of each take into one, so the audience can't get a clear vibe about how Dafoe feels about Patrick, adding more ambiguity to the film. I just thought that was very interesting.

@kb4903

Жыл бұрын

Is that true? That’s cool!

@mike2tuff380

Ай бұрын

if that’s true that’s pretty awesome and a cool move by the director

I've always said that Bale did THE BEST narcissistic, psychopathic acting of all time in this movie, but then Jake came along with Nightcrawler. I still said Bale did it best, but Jake was God damn amazing.

@kb4903

Жыл бұрын

Both are very similar except Bateman has money and is at a the top but Lou Bloom is at the bottom.

@Feoktistovs

Жыл бұрын

I also love De Niro in Cape Fear. He portrayed such an unnerving sadistic psychopath and done it so effortlessly.

Patrick “you’re not terribly important to me” Bateman.

@sunsetman22

3 жыл бұрын

oh but he's in touch with humanity alright

@randybobandy9828

3 жыл бұрын

Love that quote.

@logan_alexander2006

3 жыл бұрын

Bateman is to close to Batman for me to take seriously

@SCORPION-XII

2 жыл бұрын

@@sunsetman22 He's on his way to return videotapes

@YoRHautomaton

Жыл бұрын

This chicanery

He's just deep enough to know how shallow he is, and it's broken him.

@bunnywavyxx9524

3 жыл бұрын

I believe that's why he gravitates to his secretary; she has real aspirations and is very emotionally genuine. So unlike the people in Patrick's life.

@justinchalifoux4424

3 жыл бұрын

@@bunnywavyxx9524 reminds me of that one scene where he was having a mental break down in the phone booth and she ACTUALLY cared. He was just so deep within his sorrow and madness that he genuinely told her to fuck off and stop acting. One of the only good people in this film

@AxleTrade

3 жыл бұрын

What's broken him is that no matter how hard he tries, he can never break free of the world he's trapped in. Not that he's shallow.

@Saif-zf9vb

3 жыл бұрын

@@AxleTrade they fit into the same theme, both of them.

@rag83991

3 жыл бұрын

@@bunnywavyxx9524 in the book, Jeanne the secretary plays a crucial role. You’re right in saying that he gravitates towards her however it’s more noticeable in the book. I’d say a soft spot.

I think Patrick is irredemable. The scene where he proudly announces that he is the American Psycho before killing Paul seals the deal for me

@pacotaco1246

2 жыл бұрын

I didnt like how he outmorbed paul

@vastoflix

Жыл бұрын

“Paul, I am the American Psycho”

@toypop96

Жыл бұрын

He didn’t say that

@lefroste6370

Жыл бұрын

@@toypop96 i saw it in cinema, my favourite part is when he said "it's psychoing time" before psychoing over all the prostitutes in his house

@istachi

Жыл бұрын

@@lefroste6370 I immediately stood up and started applauding at that point. Bravo, Vince!

I think the part where he tells his assistant that "You should leave before something terrible happens." also speaks volumes. I feel like he's in a constant battle with his intense desires, schizophrenic episodes, and his morals. I feel a lot of his thoughts on the state of the world and how things should be is influenced by the progressive and empathetic bands he is obsessed with. He knows how he should be/what he wants to be, but he can't get there because his twisted desires and his personality dissociative disorder keeps him from it and it also warps his world view (unwillingly) to a very dark and demented version. He gets gratification from the music and wanting to support the messages portrayed by them/be a normal member of society, but he also gets even more gratification from living out his evil fantasies. He's as war with himself and can't win.

@LordVader1094

2 жыл бұрын

People may use the book to say this interpretation wrong, but I feep like movie and book Bateman are two separate characters.

@tripleoo0

2 жыл бұрын

@@LordVader1094 I tend to agree. I haven't read the book, but based on the snippets and descriptions I've seen of it, the movie seems to be telling a slightly different story to me. Of course, it's all art, and as such, is subject to interpretation (yes, even if the artist expressly states what it is meant to be about). But the book doesn't seem to make any bones about the fact that Patrick Bateman is an abject psychopath, while the movie seems to leave that up to interpretation, at least a little bit. Would Paul Allen's death have been any different if Van Patten or Halberstram had been the killer? Do either of them have the same sort of self-awareness that Bateman does, or is that part of Bateman's psychopathy?

@homelesshannah50

Жыл бұрын

You should read "Power and the Passion" by Pat Cadigan that goes there with that same theme. It's about a serial killer that has to help police hunt down vampires. But the lead is ALWAYS thinking about how he can kill people.

@darksideofevil13

Жыл бұрын

That's pretty unique I won't lie.

That scene with the homeless man always sticks in my head..not so much the killing, but the way he talks to the homeless man is just so nasty and cruel

@qwormuli77

2 жыл бұрын

And not just the nastiness, but the constant bait and switch. If it were just disrespect it'd be easy to pass by, but he constantly raises his hopes only to dash them even lower. It was artfully horrible verbal abuse.

@yannick245

2 жыл бұрын

@@qwormuli77 Certainly one of the most cruel murders in cinema history!

@lore6488

2 жыл бұрын

@@qwormuli77 yeah…. He’s a psychopath. He probably took his anger out because of paul.

@locustbl8z

2 жыл бұрын

In the book it's much worse

@artrospamsr269

2 жыл бұрын

@@locustbl8z what did he do in the book?

Just a note on the love of music: it's shown in the book that his long speeches about his 'love' for music like Huey Lewis and the News are ripped from New York Times reviews.

@nicke.424

3 жыл бұрын

I think this shows just how disconnected from people he actually is. A normal person would just say they like the song but he goes into such great detail to the point of being a critic

@DAMfoxygrampa

3 жыл бұрын

That makes a lot of sense

@orarinnsnorrason4614

3 жыл бұрын

It makes sense since if you listen to Bale in those scenes you can hear that how he speaks is just as if he was reading, and not "performing" the lines. In this context it was intentional.

@riboh3324

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with him just reciting reviews but then why does he actually listen to music in his spare time does he try to appreciate it or understand it.Or maybe he does enjoy it musically but doesn't understand lyrics in subcontexts and themes thats why he recites reviews.Or maybe its a form of a autism that music helps sooth and protect from the outside world or helps drown out his thoughts of emptiness and violence

@xxczerxx

3 жыл бұрын

@@riboh3324 Part of his mask is to actually be familiar with it, and as a test to see if he can feel anything that these reviewers say (spoiler: he can't). Again this is in the book!

6:10 you’re wrong about him being a caring man. There’s scenes in the movie that show how he really feels. For instance in his pc speech he says we need to go back to moral values and equal rights for woman; but he treats women like dogsh*t and kills them. Also he says they have to feed the homesless, and then later he talks down to the homeless before murdering him. The political correct comments are just a facade

@RB-ej8wk

Жыл бұрын

I think they are just vastly overshadowed by Bateman's fantasies

@osmanyousif7849

4 ай бұрын

Also, in the book, there was a moment that they cut out that kind of defined exactly who Patrick is. That’s when he starts to consider killing Jean, who has most can tell, has no clue to exactly who Patrick is, and for the most part was a very innocent woman. During their supposed date, she hugs Patrick and showers him with a few genuine compliments. And Patrick is completely still, and from the way that book describes it, he’s generally confused, as he doesn’t understand why a woman like Jeanene is saying this type of stuff to him. As most people can tell, throughout the story, he’s been established to be someone who always tries to find any excuse to kill someone, even just by looking at him the wrong way. But with Jean, Patrick really can’t find anything that she’s done wrong. Which just goes to show that his whole ideology is complete BS, and that he’s simply a monster who does whatever he wants because he likes to.

Also, remember the ending monologue. "I do not wish for a better world for anyone" and "I wish my pain to be inflicted on others." Patrick doesn't care about a single human being.

In the book, Bateman went anti-semite against one jew, thus the "cool it down with those anti-semitic remarks" was just another memorised statemen he said to fit in.

@ytasd4467

3 жыл бұрын

What did he do/say that was anti semitic?

@devonmolina5200

3 жыл бұрын

@@ytasd4467 In the book at least he has a scene at a Jewish restaurant where he goes on a racist tirade when they don't serve him "kosher meat".

@ytasd4467

3 жыл бұрын

@@devonmolina5200 If he was anti semitic then why wouild he want kosher meat?

@granolaassasin

3 жыл бұрын

@@ytasd4467 I think the other guy misspoke, at the restaurant they don’t have certain stuff like cheese for his burger, cause cheese isn’t kosher. Patrick wanted cheese, and in this scene he’s either high or in a psychotic state of mania, so he loses his shit at the waiter

@ytasd4467

3 жыл бұрын

@@granolaassasin I see

I’ve always found it fascinating how the director stated that everything that happened in this movie was not in Bateman’s head like some people think it is. Instead, Patrick actually did kill all of those people, but everyone around him is so self-absorbed with their own greed and image that no one cares or cares to believe him. Absolutely brilliant. EDIT: To clarify, yes he is also having vivid hallucinations, such as when the ATM tells him to feed a a stray cat. That’s one of the reasons why it becomes so confusing trying to figure out if everything really happened or not. Because Patrick is having a hard time figuring out what’s happening or not since he’s constantly losing touch with reality. He’s an unreliable narrator for sure, but he’s also a psychotic murderer who isn’t sure if the last kill was real or a dream. Sorry, I read a few of the comments for the first time just now and thought I would chime in and put that in there.

@parallel2795

2 жыл бұрын

Wait but Howard said in the end that he had dinner with Paul Allen in London? I always thought that the Paul Allen kill and his public killing spree was imaginary but the rest was real.

@Skibbutz

2 жыл бұрын

@@parallel2795 throughout the movie characters constantly get confused for eachother. The real Paul Allen is dead, but nobody notices because all of those people are so cookie cutter and similar they're basically the same person. The "Paul allen" in London was just some other business man that was mistaken for Paul allen

@uzzielfontan2338

2 жыл бұрын

@@Skibbutz oooh good analysis on that one, had me confused too

@eurekasevenwave2297

2 жыл бұрын

@@parallel2795 I interpreted it as the killing of Paul Allen was real, but everything else was fake and inside Patrick's head. Mainly because everyone confuses everybody with everybody else, and the film is obviously making a statement on superficiality.

@Boz196

2 жыл бұрын

@@eurekasevenwave2297 if the killing of Paul Allen is real then how come the security guard to the building said nothing about the trail of blood? How come the taxi driver said nothing about the body bag? How come the witnesses just complemented the body bag instead of actually questioning if there was a body inside it? I think him killing Paul Allen was completely in his head but with that being said I do think some of the other killings were real, like the homeless guy and I also think he did mutilate those prostitutes.

His most evil act was creating the boys equivalent to zodiac signs

This is my first time watching this movie from beginning to end and it’s hard to believe a 27 year old can be this far gone from his humanity. He shows a little bit of good when he spares his secretary’s life and can really see the internal battle he was going through here.

The books ending is far less ambiguous. The author has made it clear ... Bateman did all that shit

@anasdomain9994

3 жыл бұрын

lmboo i read that as batman

@patricksickman3116

3 жыл бұрын

I agree but I always felt like the link between his mental illness and the joy/burden he felt from entitled position was understated in the movie to the point of losing a lot of that point of the theme

@sinematographynaction

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. It also clearly states he was born into wealth.

@KitsuyuutsuR

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! The ending has always driven me nuts because you’re unsure of what he’s done. I’m glad someone could clue us in!

@tinaaneke

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. I read some interview from Harron (the director of the film) and she was disappointed on how the discourse around the film/ending was centered on “if he did it or not.” I’m paraphrasing but she said there was no question about his murderous deeds. He did it lmfao. The ambiguity of the film (I didn’t read the book so I don’t know if the book follows this thread) should be focused on if Patrick’s killings happened as how he for-told them/and who he specifically killed. Which then speaks to the fact he likely suffers from Delusional Disorder/Psychosis. And we see this in the fact that even he becomes uncertain on who he may have or not have killed, (e.g Paul/Jared Leto is said to be alive by his peers) plus it can be assumed he likely did not have as much as a methodical approach to all of his murders as he believed he did. The film shows that last part well with how the blood in Allen’s place just poofs away the next day after he was killed by Patrick.

In my opinion the scariest villain in any media is one that you can identify yourself in or at least a part of you, Patrick is one of those villain there is a little Bateman in all of us, that anger the lack of empathy, and the desperate need to fit in and be accepted by those we feel are important of those feelings.

@Y20XTongvaLand

2 жыл бұрын

Deep.

@low-keyrighteous9575

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn't disagree more .. I could care less of fitting in and I have an intense amount of empathy towards anyone who may be in a rut...

@sickkunt1573

2 жыл бұрын

@@low-keyrighteous9575 well i'm more of the opposite there

@rafavdm1020

2 жыл бұрын

Not everyone has these needs, thus cant remotely relate to Patrick

@eaisports5593

2 жыл бұрын

@@low-keyrighteous9575 you probably do want money

What about the scene with his secretary? He said he was afraid that he'd hurt her. And he didn't kill her. It felt like a genuine attempt for the good Bateman to come through. But he was too lost

When It got to the point where the atm said “feed me a stray cat” is when I began to think that batemans situation is a bit more schizophrenic than I would’ve thought

Not many people talk about how incredible Christian Bale was playing Patrick Bateman.

@tigerpjm

3 жыл бұрын

Probably because it's self-evident

@spookbuster4862

3 жыл бұрын

When referring to this movie, Bale's performance is always brought up in any conversation about the film lasting more than a minute. We all know how great he was in this, it barely needs to be mentioned.

@ryanarment5393

2 жыл бұрын

Most people when bringing up his acting credibility bring this film up.

@lrts1lrts181

2 жыл бұрын

Almost everyone considers this as one of Bale's best performances if not the best.

@TooBigToHide

2 жыл бұрын

Bateman - Batman

"I guess I killed 20 people. I don't know, maybe 40..."

I low-key feel sorry for him, towards the end of the film you can tell he's genuinely scared of himself but just. cant. stop

@annelarouche3536

2 жыл бұрын

I think thats why, in the end, most of us "like" patrick bateman (what in saying is that we are interested in him)

@Lutyrannus

Жыл бұрын

He's not scared of himself, he's scared of being caught, and having his reputation ruined. Notice how when he calls his lawyer its with an emphasis on how he "won't get away with it this time."

@someretard7809

Жыл бұрын

The book is even more sad towards the end for me

@antoniaboboc7491

10 ай бұрын

Why feel sorry for him? He doesn’t feel bad. He almost smirks when he tells his lawyer about the murders. That’s repulsive

@Kay-lo3td

7 ай бұрын

⁠@@antoniaboboc7491it’s because he wants to get caught and receive punishment. Their also a high change that none of the murders are real which makes you feel sympathetic on how Patrick Is crying for help and is scare of what he about to do but no one is caring because they too focus on themselves which is the main theme of the story in the first place.

The homeless man is one of the few kills Bateman absolutely didn't do. When the camera pans back, we see Patrick kicking a bunch of trashbags and there's no body at all. Crazy

@tiffkhalisi6625

Жыл бұрын

Imma have to rewatch to see that

The mask is a huge symbol used in the film. When he is peeling off the face mask during his daily routine, he's at the same time telling the viewer that he isn't like an average person, and something hides within. He is so focused on hiding himself, both physically and emotionally, that a mask is the only escape for him

@brendandurant4353

2 жыл бұрын

Thats what the point of the mask is

@Chris-oo7ln

2 жыл бұрын

@@brendandurant4353 dream = american psycho?

@Luis-oy3et

2 жыл бұрын

I could pass my film studies gcses off of this comment section

@dominicbofficial

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chris-oo7ln Nah, Patrick Bateman takes way better care of himself than Dream. 🤣

@annelarouche3536

2 жыл бұрын

Also the mask is transparent!! So we can see him through but we just don’t.

In the book, Patrick's inner monologue is homophobic, anti-Semitic, sexist and racist. I very much doubt his virtue signaling was anything other than saying the right things at the right time for the right people. He's obsessed with following trends and fitting in, it's nothing more than that.

@maselm

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I also think that’s why he has memorised music reviews - having read them and memorised them to repeat to people to make them think he’s “normal”.

@Caroline-gl2ky

2 жыл бұрын

This is pretty much what I thought so as well. He simply is trying to seem compassionate in order to fit in.

@rodneylagrone7180

2 жыл бұрын

Which I find weird. He goes above and beyond to convince others he is better than them. Why care to fit in?

@marcasdebarun6879

2 жыл бұрын

@@rodneylagrone7180 He wants to be the best at fitting in, that's why. Wearing all the right clothes that are "in", saying all the right things that are "in", thinking all the right things that are "in", going to all the right places that are "in", etc. etc. He wants to follow all the trends while also wanting to be the one that others will look to as the best example of following the trends. He's also a narcissistic psychopath, so his desire to seem normal while also hating people being (perceivedly) better than him can be somewhat oxymoronic; mentally ill people aren't known for their consistent and logical viewpoints.

@carl4243

2 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of certain people 🤔

I agree that whatever made his sheets bloody actually happened. Since not only do the employees notice, but the woman who walks in on them notices too. Almost every other murder is not addressed or even noticed by anyone else in the film

@nickc5417

8 ай бұрын

Cranapple

7:35 The lady says in Chinese, “There is nothing here. Your sheets are white! There is no stain!”

@nolesy34

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a commercial for Oxiclean Look no stain! Thanks miss Lee Dont thank me Thank oxy action triple penetrating micro beads to make them brighter than new! 😀

After watching this video, it's clear that I have to return some videotapes.

@cringer8107

3 жыл бұрын

was looking for this one !

@bk-terminator3617

3 жыл бұрын

Best comment here 🥂

@sleepn_on_me2473

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated

@adreantejed4199

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know what's more ironic. Christian Bale played a psycho character then became Batman. Or one of his victims became the Joker.

@heatherperleberg7816

3 жыл бұрын

@@adreantejed4199 We don't talk about that Joker.

“Debra don’t just stare at it, eat it”

@CorporateComedy

3 жыл бұрын

the line took on a whole other meaning in 2 girls 1 cup...

@vsauce4678

3 жыл бұрын

Me when Debra isn’t enjoying the 2 McChickens and fries I graciously payed for.

@speedrunnr2714

2 жыл бұрын

Im sure he called her sabrina

@ArjunB5

2 жыл бұрын

*Sabrina

@JackAlter

2 жыл бұрын

sabrina*

For reality vs hallucination, I feel that from the moment the ATM reads "Feed me a stray cat" obviously everything is fantasy but Patrick reacts as though it is real and believes it except for ONE MOMENT: he shoots at a police car with a pistol and the entire car explodes as if hit with a rocket. Patrick is visibly confused in this moment and even looks at his pistol as if he doesn't believe it. The moment passes and he seems to accept that what he did was real when he quickly leaves the scene and fixes his hair to give the impression that he hasn't been up to anything suspicious at all. From both reading the book and watching the movie multiple times, I find it interesting that he is somehow unable to bring himself to kill his secretary. I think this is because on some level, as much as he feels that killing is the ultimate power trip, Patrick realizes that she is the ONLY person who actually genuinely cares about him, and he keeps her alive for this reason whether he consciously knows it or not.

Patrick is spooky for sure but I think the people around him who helped cover up his crimes are even more terrifying. Especially the realtor lady.

I want to clarify that the ending was NOT meant to be ambiguous. The director specifically said in a Charlie Rose interview that she regrets she failed at making sure we knew it was not in his head.

@peters8512

3 жыл бұрын

What she actually said: "One thing I think is a failure on my part is people keep coming out of the film thinking that it's all a dream, and I never intended that. All I wanted was to be ambiguous in the way that the book was. I think it's a failure of mine in the final scene because I just got the emphasis wrong. I should have left it more open ended."

@Leptospirosi

3 жыл бұрын

But as we should know, after release a film start having its own life despite the intendend goals of the director. That's what really makes some film GREAT: sometime they can rely messages and bring reflections in the wiewer that go beyond and above the planning of those who actually filmed the scenes.

@1998Cebola

2 жыл бұрын

@@Leptospirosi the message of the book/movie is completly lost if he didn't commit the murders.

@egekazkayas8968

2 жыл бұрын

@@1998Cebola he didn't commşt them, the message is about how ordinary people have fantaises of ultra-violence

@godwarrior3403

2 жыл бұрын

@@egekazkayas8968 He did commit them. The director actually goes into detail about this. I just watched it last night for the first time and so googled as soon as the movie finished. She specifically says all of the events happened, the "in his head" parts would be like, he probably wasn't dressed as nice as he pictured himself, probably didn't pull off the murder so smoothly, probably didn't explode the cop car, etc. The killing of these people by him did happen. That's why you see some people here talking about her quote that she feels like she failed by making it too ambiguous. It really does seem like it's all in his head, and it's objectively not, by the director's set intentions

Something to note: 'The Mask of Sanity' was one of the first white papers written on the study of psychopathy.

@mackychloe

3 жыл бұрын

Nice.

@mattgilbert7347

3 жыл бұрын

Gosh, I haven't read that in forever. Thanks for the reminder.

@boblevieux

3 жыл бұрын

That first got published in the 50s.

I love this movie. Though many have analyzed the character, I want to add something. Bateman is the perfect executive, and believe this is a great reflection of what people turn into because of corporate culture. I've personally seen people like this in the corporate world and it is unfortunate that to get ahead and succeed in this world you have to become a monster. The movie appears to say Bateman is the exception, but from my experience this is normal, encouraged, and required of successful executives.

@2msvalkyrie529

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately for your " theory " - I can't think of a single " serial killer " who was a corporate executive .? No doubt you can provide us with several examples ?

@nickc5417

8 ай бұрын

If this was the case you'd havvve to call the movie American Sociopath then

@nickc5417

8 ай бұрын

@@2msvalkyrie529 he's talking about the lack of morals, empathy, win at all costs etc twit

@christopherross8358

8 ай бұрын

@@nickc5417 They can blend, look up the dark triad...

Patrick Bateman has a genuine fanbase these days, if people look at characters like this and see a “role model” then I don’t know what that says about them. 😬

@xDIAMONDDOGx579

8 ай бұрын

I respectfully disagree, more like trolling the status quo. Men are rebelling against the woke feminist toxic culture we find our selves in. That's my theory at least. Cuz it's fun to do the meme,but that's as far Id take it 😚

@fernandoorellana7768

6 күн бұрын

​@@xDIAMONDDOGx579plain stupidity isn't rebellious at all kid

He is a child of divorced parents, give him a break.

@nataliaalfonso2662

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha

@nalanitrow7040

3 жыл бұрын

Does that mean I'm going to turn out like this 😭

@animationspace8550

3 жыл бұрын

@@nalanitrow7040 I feel you man. Hang in there. I still have empathy so far.

@theblancmange1265

3 жыл бұрын

@@nalanitrow7040 Rich, fit and handsome?

@reidhersey4386

3 жыл бұрын

@@nalanitrow7040 yes

"Patrick, it's you, you're the american psycho!"

@Chris-oo7ln

2 жыл бұрын

"Walter, you are the breaking bad!"

@benstevens2

2 жыл бұрын

Where’s this meme from

@stilln1966

2 жыл бұрын

@@benstevens2 There was a post on 4chan asking for popular movie quotes, somebody replied with a picture of Paul Allen about to die with the line, "Patrick, it's you, youre the American Psycho!!" Probably wouldn't have become such an inside joke without some nutjob replying "He didn't say that."

@iane7474

2 жыл бұрын

*roll credits*

@ChronicMemes

2 жыл бұрын

He didn't say that.

The way Patrick dance walks over to the axe as he's talking to Paul Allen before he chops him up. Will forever be one of the greatest pieces of cinema in history.

The scariest thing is that he's increasingly not seen as a villain by people, the movie is treated more a like a prophecy nowadays

@ronaldomontero3624

Жыл бұрын

Donald

@iamaarish7048

Жыл бұрын

Donald

@airpodzyt1566

Жыл бұрын

Donald

@alisterclemons7394

Жыл бұрын

Donald

@fymf2011

Жыл бұрын

Donald

I'm on the verge of tears by the time I arrived to "Analyzing Evil: Patrick Bateman, From American Psycho" on KZread, since I'm positive we wont see a real in depth character analysis. But we do, and relief washes over me in an awesome wave.

@jaiharvey520

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@klabkebash

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaiharvey520 Tell me Jai Harvey.. Do you believe KZread is becoming too, commercial?

@jaiharvey520

2 жыл бұрын

@@klabkebash are we talking about things like ads and ect? Cause if so i 100% believe it is, how about you?

@klabkebash

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaiharvey520 Come on, Jai Harvey... There are a lot more important problems than Sri Lanka KZread Channels to worry about.

@jaiharvey520

2 жыл бұрын

@@klabkebash you’ve lost me mate?

The true horror of American Psycho is not the idea that someone like Patrick could be right next to us; it’s that even if there was, society wouldn’t care. (Note that I’m saying Batemans society is like that. I’m not trying to come out here and give some “deep” take on a movie which features business cards as a pivotal scene)

@ag-bf3ty

3 жыл бұрын

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue, and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters"

@Neo2266.

3 жыл бұрын

@@ag-bf3ty Depends on who you shoot. Also if you shot one of your voters, you would lose a voter

@ag-bf3ty

3 жыл бұрын

@@Neo2266. I dunno if you missed the point, but it was a quote from Donald Trump. He was bragging about his supporters being so loyal, that could do anything and not lose support. Which, sadly, is very true. It is an indictment of america and vindicates the author of American Psycho. Closing the book cover is indeed, not an exit from the world of American Psycho.

@Neo2266.

3 жыл бұрын

@@ag-bf3ty I get the point, I'm taking that statement literally dummy XD

@GodsDumbLamb

3 жыл бұрын

Thats what happens when a society trades, community, family and decency for individualism, blind consumerism and degenarcy. You have an entire population of self absorbed addicts (to sex, food drugs) that would rather kill over a pair of shoes than make sure their future is sure.

This was my favorite analysis so far on one of my favorite movies. Thank you and keep up the good work.

I thought Jared Leto did one hell of a job in this film and my first two times watching this I didn’t even realise he was Paul Allen…what a underrated performance/actor.

@mr.goldenproductions_0143

3 ай бұрын

He literally has an Oscar as Best supporting actor. He's neither underrated or not well-known just because you didn't notice him lol.

Bruce Wayne if his parents were never killed, hahaha

@Nixn_From_Da_Hood

3 жыл бұрын

Bat(E)man

@randybobandy9828

3 жыл бұрын

Bruce Wayne if his parents where divorced instead of killed*.

@rhiannafelix1447

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nixn_From_Da_Hood broo😨

@tochukwuudu7763

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@scalycoronet5198

3 жыл бұрын

I am vengeance I am the night! I’m BATEMAN!

The fact that Yoshikage Kira was inspired by this dude still couldn't prepare me for scary he was

@LegoAlex99

2 жыл бұрын

Well we don't really know that,it depends on whether or not Araki read the book or not but i guess it's possible. Either way there were many more serial killers to get inspired by before even Bateman sooo

@enginear1157

2 жыл бұрын

@@LegoAlex99 Oh come on, you're telling me that "My name is" monologue wasn't an homage to this character? It's practically paraphrased!

@testtest-vz8oj

2 жыл бұрын

i would say that they're both equally terrifying

@enginear1157

2 жыл бұрын

@@testtest-vz8oj I guess so, I just think because it's Jojo I remember more of the silliness

@kevinDEgamer112

2 жыл бұрын

Is that a jojo reference

I love the ominous humming back track playing as you’re speaking. It makes the analysis feel that much more intense.

Victim: Who are you? *shaky crying voice* Patrick: *I’M BATEMAN!”

9:33 "So in the end I believe Patrick is an intensely disturbed psychopath, whose lack o identity has caused him to try and fit into a world where humanity has already taken a backseat to materialism and consumerism" Great sentence and overall, great analysis.

I can’t help but laugh at the fact that I can only see Patrick Bateman as an insane Bruce Wayne that went the opposite direction of becoming Batman. If I look at it that way it’s kind of like an alternate origin story

@DammnDeejay

3 жыл бұрын

@Greg Elchert even fuckin better!!!! Yesss!!

@stevendavis6128

3 жыл бұрын

Ironic you say that considering the comic "Tales From the Dark Multiverse: Hush" exists, in which, After Bruce's parents are killed, by being taken in by the Elliot's and due not seeing the world and learning to deal with his problems himself , causes Bruce Wayne to go into a catatonic insanity. But after learning the truth of his Parent's murder from Alfred he becomes a psychotic vigilante version of Batman called "Batman the Silenced". It's not the serial killer that you may be envisioning ( That's reserved for the Batman Who Laughs) but it's still a cool alternate version of Batman.

@DammnDeejay

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevendavis6128 ok wait, soo I’ve never seen that version of Batman? How many Batman’s are there again??

@stevendavis6128

3 жыл бұрын

@@DammnDeejay Oh there's tons of alternate versions, but the main alternatives all come from the "Dark Multiverse" introduced from "Dark Knights Metal" (I think) comic run which is a multiverse populated by "negative earths" and essentially, all of those earths are born from the fears of other individuals. For instance from Earth -22 "The Batman Who Laughs" is a Batman who went insane from reasons I won't spoil and became as psychotic and dangerous as the Joker while retaining the intelligence and planning of Batman. He is born of Batman's fear that he could become as dangerous as the Joker. There's another serial killer type Batman called "The Grim Knight" which willingly uses guns and weaponized everything that Wayne Enterprises creates. He can deactivate and or control seemingly any appliance, He can remote control cars, detonate armor vests and even deactivate a planes Turbines if I remember right. Oh yeah, he even created satellites in his origin Earth that shot pinpoint accurate bullets from space down to earth, to stop crimes from occurring.

@DammnDeejay

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevendavis6128 Gatdamn, I haven’t really heard much of this multiverse shit much at all?! The very first Batman anything I ever saw was the one west Batman was old and Terry took his place as a young Batman? I feel like I have some dope ass homework to research now LMAO

I’ve been binging much of the content on this channel over the last two days, and I have to say I’m kinda surprised this one didn’t include a comparison to the original novel, which goes deeper into Bateman’s other murders and his psychotic breaks and hallucinations.

Just watched one of these with headphones on for the first time, your narration is like a massage for my eardrums.

I disagree with you regarding his music. Having read the book then immediately watched the film, I can offer insight into the film that wouldn’t necessarily be there. In the book, Bateman talks about music, analysing it to a serious in depth way, in the way the he talks about every single person’s clothing that he meets. He is incredibly detail oriented with what he’s supposed to know about. Bateman SHOULD know about clothing, so he knows EVERYTHING about their contemporary clothing. Bateman SHOULD know everything about water and its effects, so he knows EVERYTHING about it. This extends to music massively as well. The scene in the film where he starts going on a rant about whatever music they’re listening to is simply and purely the monster’s mask slipping as he looks you in the eye. His statements about fashion, music, water, etc, is all researched and rehearsed, so when he’s in his primal state, it just flows out without him even thinking. The film was fantastic, but a massive problem I have with it is that Bateman is still too likeable. He’s put across as “a sick guy,” but in reality he’s not just a sick guy, he’s an absolute f***ing demon, he’s basically the devil for his victims. And as the story goes along he starts to utterly lose his mind, (in the book him and his fiancé go on holiday together and it descends into him roaming the beach in the middle of the night eating handfuls of sand, and microwaving and eating jellyfish.) there are short chapters where he manically runs through the street, tearing his clothes off, vomiting on purpose. He’s absolutely beyond deranged.

@EmperorPylades

2 жыл бұрын

One important thing about the fashion and his obsession with detail in the book: every single piece of clothing described was taken from the catalogues for that year from the listed labels by Bret Easton Ellis. And none of the ensembles work. He uses the label specific names for the colours and patterns, and if you put them together, they're a nightmarish melange of clashing colours, incorrect accessories and cuts that can never work well together.

@rakune7252

2 жыл бұрын

@@EmperorPylades great response, thank you for that cool detail :)

@ThePhil1909

2 жыл бұрын

Im a big fan of the movie, for me its a dark comedy master piece, but the book is so incredible dark and sick. The scene with the homeless guy who he murders in the movie is so much worse in the book even though he doesnt kill him. I needed a whole day to be able to read the book again. Movie and Book are 2 completly different things imo

@AdamSmasherReal

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds based

@jasonvoorheescampblood

2 жыл бұрын

He Always was basically a demon for me in the movie 🤷

"HEY, PAUL!"

@johnp.smithasimpleman7281

3 жыл бұрын

🪓

@LaskyLabs

3 жыл бұрын

"Do you like Huey Lewis?"

@jimboslice7687

3 жыл бұрын

In an alternate world, he simply said "yeah?" And then died

@fa_uribe2623

3 жыл бұрын

"Its hip to be square"

@theminuteman7611

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my God! It even has a water mark!

This is the only KZread video that explained Patrick Bateman so well. I never understood the film, even after watching multiple video essays. This is the only one that stuck out and changed my perspective on the whole movie. Great work!

You gotta admit, dude practices pretty good skin care and hygiene

I find it fascinating that Patrick seems to be a nihilist, but the extent of his nihilism varies based on his mood. At one moment, he may be so apathetic he may smoke like a chimney, drink like a fish and do hard drugs like cocaine. On the other hand, he may obsess over his hygiene and workout routine and do anything and everything in his power to fit in, even at the cost of working a job he hates. I'd like to see you do separate videos on Peter Foley and Daryll Lee Cullum from Copycat (1995), a criminally underrated film.

@dickmullen3750

3 жыл бұрын

Typical addict.

@joshwilliams6517

3 жыл бұрын

High functioning addict

@annaeverette8960

3 жыл бұрын

@@electricfishfan7159 Also his yearning for the absolute control which he lacks at his day job since his father "owns the company"

@Shadow77999

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds an awful lot like myself

@alainerookkitsunev5605

3 жыл бұрын

Drinking, smokeing, doing coke etc. Only ruins your insides. Patrick cares about his workout routine and diet so that he can look the best. Athletic, low fat %, clean flawless skin etc. Also smokeing, drinking, doing drugs makes you feel good, and it looks good (for people depicted in movie). If youre a rich person you have to smoke expensive cigars, drink quality spirits, and cocaine ofcourse.

He deals with his anxiety and emptiness by crafting a "dream" of being a killer who is smart enough to go free no matter what he does. He dislikes himself and everyone around him, and he dreams of destroying the "Yuppie World" and the World as a whole. The reason: The World has let him down. It is not mentioned in the film, but in the novel we learn that his mother, father and brother all have rejected him. The genius of both novel and film is that we are both repulsed and feel empathy for the wretched Patrick Bateman. Killer or not, he is a "victim of the indifference around him". He has never known love, friendship or a normal relationship. Materialism is all there is for him, so he must be perfect. Only Bateman feels lost. "I am simply not there".

@hewantthatfreaky2779

3 жыл бұрын

Whoa. Wait so that's why he kills people? Because he was felt unloved especially to his family?

@monochromatic_melodramatic

3 жыл бұрын

I feel so attacked tbh

@primoskxlly3462

2 жыл бұрын

hey that’s a good comment

@Ghost-vg6iq

2 жыл бұрын

@@hewantthatfreaky2779 It's more like the world that he lives in just like ours the "Indifference"

you described him perfectly, i love this series

These scenes are definitely among the scariest Jerma985 clips I've ever witnessed

At a point in the video when i'm talking about a mystery woman he killed that made his sheets bloody, I realized during editing that this mystery woman I speak of is likely the woman he was walking with before the scene at the cleaners. This was an error on my part and I apologize!

@shambles6795

3 жыл бұрын

Nah. No worries.

@backlashstudios6088

3 жыл бұрын

Please do the following: Walter White, Gustavo Fring, Tony Soprano, Hannibal Lecter, and Heath ledger Joker I’d be super interested to hear your analysis!!!

@MikePado

3 жыл бұрын

No problem. Anyone who's read the book will remember who she is too. Great job.

@MsSwitchblade13

3 жыл бұрын

Apology accepted! :P

@1bridge11

3 жыл бұрын

Please make a video about Alex DeLarge from A Clockwork Orange.

In the scene where he drags Paul's body, the blood trail disappears in the very next scene.

@boblevieux

3 жыл бұрын

With the plastic he put everywhere still there ?

@James-cg7eq

3 жыл бұрын

that's probably just a continuity error

@FunnyMonkey781

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't one of the big twists that Paul is actually still alive and was away from his home on a trip (been a good few years since I last watched)? If so that continuity error could be intentional.

@KingdededeKingdedede

3 жыл бұрын

@@FunnyMonkey781 no, that was the alibi bateman fabricated

@user-lt5ri7yz8j

3 жыл бұрын

@@KingdededeKingdedede nope. Paul Allen actually came back from the trip to Germany and you could see him in that party Bateman walked in on and talked to 'his lawyer'

I feel American Psycho is a way to express how someone like Patrick views the world and how the world’s inability to accept who he really is and accepting the mask of himself despite everything he’s done drives him more psychotic. Its why he breaks down at the end because he knows mentally he’s beyond the point where he cant exist in either reality safely and needs someone to ground himself, to help him. But that’s when she finds the drawings. Something we never saw but we easily accept as real because we too as the audience are also now questioning the movie’s own sanity with the shootout scene. But we have no closure, only the feeling that when the story is over there is nothing left to tell. In the end Patrick was right. When the mask finally slips…he is simply not there anymore. Until the amazing sequel where he gets killed by a little girl.

@Zxlxya

Жыл бұрын

We don’t speak about the sequel

I think Patrick seems like a swell and altogether wholesome guy.

I’m glad someone highlighted Patrick’s key moments of apparent empathy. I can remember three main instances of what seem like genuine flashes of guilt on his part: 1. When he stares at himself in the mirror with horror before killing Paul Allen 2. When he monologues about The Greatest Love of All and says “it instils one with the hope... that it’s NOT too late to better ourselves” in quite a pained manner 3. When he hesitates to divulge to his lawyer that he once tried to eat human brains. I find Patrick Bateman’s portrayal extremely realistic and a refreshing departure from the traditional slasher villain. Mental health is a spectrum, not a set of absolutes, and no one can be an absolute, 100% psychopath.

"People are just so wholly unaware of what's going on outside of their own bubble" That right there is literally the point of the entire movie. It doesn't really matter what Bateman does. It doesn't matter if he's a killer, delusional or just a fantasist. He exists as a point of view for looking at consumer culture, particularly in (but not limited to) the 1980s. Of course this is just what I took away from the movie and, as Roland Barthes would point out, the intention doesn't matter, only the relationship you form with it.

@DakodaOK

3 жыл бұрын

It also serves as a criticism of '80s hypermasculinity, identity, and power culture. Every scene with a business card (identity in literal and figurative pieces) is overtly sexual, there's a complacency in figuring out who he actually is (the sheer number of different names given to him by different people throughout the movie), and the constant need to be seen or evaluated in high-class settings indicates a constant "in the eye" egocentricity that most culture theorists argue is a hallmark of the mid-to-late '80s era. Big cell phones, big suits, and bigger attitudes.

@d1jezek

3 жыл бұрын

the way i remember the book, by the time you get to the end it seems more clear that the killings are imaginary. but the way everyone keeps calling each other by the wrong name leaves you unable to ever be sure. people who he thinks he's killed appear again as if nothing has happened or maybe he just has the wrong name. the insanity seems to be there but maybe he hasn't acted on it yet or maybe even the apparent insanity is just a way for him to feel more interesting than other people.

@TheBoBabsin

3 жыл бұрын

If you look, you'll notice there are flowers everywhere in Paul Allen's apartment when Patrick comes back to find it empty. The book mentions the overpowering smell of flowers in the apartment. The implication is, it was indeed his kill room, but the realtor kept it quiet because Paul Allen's apartment was an incredibly expensive one. Rather than call the police when Patrick fails her "ad in the Times" test, she asks him to leave- because she wants to sell the apartment, and not cause more trouble. Once again, the greed and disregard for others we see in Patrick is reflected in the world around him.

@dr.strangelove9815

3 жыл бұрын

I never saw the entire movie as I only learned about it from KZread, but from what I've seen, Bateman's horrid actions are secondary to the setting in my opinion. Look at how the society around the antagonist, how cold, indifferent and vapid it seems, it's just as hollow as Bateman, but Bateman does recognize that the world around him is fatuous. He can overtly talk about how he committed to terrible acts and people just either laugh or ignore him, they are indeed living within a bubble. In a weird way, it sort of reminds me about Fight Club, how society has become so superficial and shallow it drives people mad, to the point they no longer can maintain their former lifestyle or go mad. And I honestly don't think what the movie illustrates, the zeitgeist, is only isolated to the 80s which it was set, the hyper materialism has only spiraled further into the abyss since then, just look at the state of the world. Someone could walk down the street yelling obscenities or do something outrageous and I would bet most would not even recognize or simply ignore the event.

A really excellent analysis on Bateman. Thank you so much, Timothy Bryce!

@someretard7809

Жыл бұрын

broooo he does sound like him lmao

I really liked the feel you give to this video, specially about this character that i really liked

I wouldnt be surprised if there are real life Patrick Bateman. This kind of “ elite society old money” seems to be suffocating. Bet if he were in a better environment, with less uptight and fake, shallow people, like you said, he wouldnt go insane and evil like that. When you grow up in such environment that is cold, shallow, isolated and stuck up, it’s pretty hard to just “ feel” free

@OSYofRR

3 жыл бұрын

There is. His name is Gavin Newsom....

@dylanvickers7953

3 жыл бұрын

There are tons of them, and even more who aspire to be like him but lack the circumstances, ability, or means to become him.

@peeterboiko208

3 жыл бұрын

Yer naive. Psychopathy has a huge overlap with brain damage.

@Dolcebella1989

3 жыл бұрын

@@peeterboiko208 never said he was a psychopath, at best he is probably a sociopath or a narcissist

@cobracommander3634

3 жыл бұрын

Abandon it

The writer of the original book confirmed that Bateman DID indeed do all those things but the consumerist society upon which he is surrounded covered it up for him because to acknowledge it would have been inconvenient.

@fluff975

2 жыл бұрын

thank you. im not sure why people are still debating about this when the creators themselves have cleared this up on more than one occasion. some people just love ambiguity for ambiguity's sake so they get to choose their own preferred version of what really happened, which is just silly

@miguelpereira9859

2 жыл бұрын

@@fluff975 But the film IS ambiguous

@tissuepaper9962

2 жыл бұрын

@@fluff975 have you ever heard the phrase "kill the author"? It's common when criticizing art, the "author's intention" is almost completely irrelevant to how you as an individual should interpret the art. If the artist has to explain the message then that message never really existed in the art, did it?

Best analysis of Patrick Bateman I have seen so far. Thanks for this video!!

"There are no more barriers to cross. All I have in common with the uncontrollable and the insane, the vicious and the evil, all the mayhem I have caused and my utter indifference toward it I have now surpassed. My pain is constant and sharp and I do not hope for a better world for anyone, in fact I want my pain to be inflicted on others. I want no one to escape, but even after admitting this there is no catharsis, my punishment continues to elude me and I gain no deeper knowledge of myself; no new knowledge can be extracted from my telling. This confession has meant nothing."

Next up has to be Sir Anthony Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs. Really enjoying your content by the way, I just wish the videos were twice as long! (me being greedy probably)

@tjenadonn6158

3 жыл бұрын

Peter and Paul from Michael Haneke's Funny Games.

@srstriker6420

3 жыл бұрын

What about John Doe from Seven, Mr Glass, Penguin from Batman Returns, Darth Vader and his grandson

@jonathangarcia5279

3 жыл бұрын

I freaking love that love that movie!

I kinda thought that restaurant scene was ALL of them putting on a façade pretending to care about social issues because it’s considered en vouge, when actually NONE of them could care less.

I strive to effectively use "I have to return some video tapes" effectively, at some point in my life. I remember reading some of the book, can't remember why I stopped. One scene that I recall is when Patrick is getting a taxi to some restaurant and is hallucinating his surroundings as a thick junglescape.

His vocal cadence on these old videos feels much better and is far more natural than his current narration Style

The author did finally admit that Patrick did kill all of those people everyone was too self absorbed with their lives that they didn't even notice and the shoot out with the police was real also he just couldn't believe all the good luck he was having by getting away with everything he was doing hence the surprise look on his face when the squad car blows up

@j.s.t.6515

3 жыл бұрын

I think that given that the book is a critic of 80s yuppie culture and everything that they got away with at the time, that fit well with the reality of the murders.

@ChadVulpes

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, the *blew up* a car with a pistol. He didn't reload once and I think he shot his glock more than twenty times. It doesn't add up. Unless you're only talking about the book and not the movie.

@hunpo1

3 жыл бұрын

@@j.s.t.6515 They got away with it in 2008 and still do today, sadly.

@libertatemadvocatus1797

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChadVulpes That scene in the book is even more outlandish.

@devonmolina5200

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChadVulpes In the book Bateman is clearly hallucinating a lot of stuff by that point, to the point where he thinks a park bench is following him and he sees characters like Bigfoot or the Cheerios mascot being interviewed on his favorite talk show. In the movie this is shown with the scene where he thinks the ATM is telling him to feed the ATM a cat. I think he is murdering people, but his hallucinations make certain details seem outlandish.

This movie really is genious. Not a character study, rather a look at society or the bracket Patrick is in. Very relevant today.

@Crodon

3 жыл бұрын

Too bad the book is so fucking weird and barely readable.

@themoshpit8341

2 жыл бұрын

@@Crodon director did an amazing job adapting it then

@1998Cebola

2 жыл бұрын

@@Crodon try the kids section, plenty of pictures in them if you're scared of reading something challenging

@Crodon

2 жыл бұрын

@@1998Cebola didnt ask for your clownesque response mate.

@franz3810

2 жыл бұрын

the book is way better

Absolutely fascinating. Kuddos on your analysis and your video.

i read something regarding his need to fit in.. that he over explains the music/artist/album to people because he wants to fit in with the crowd listening to the hit music at the time, but doesnt actually like the music itself. very interesting, great film

I partly believe that the restaurant "Dorsia" isn't even real, because we never actually see the place. Everybody is just splurging about it, like you are untouchebale if you get a table there. Maybe once someone in the company just wanted to genuinely show off in front of his collegues, and made it all up, and nobody except Patrick (whose phonecalls could have been also delusions) ever really tried to get a table there, because it's so "unreachable" and even too high society for them. Even when Patrick was in the other restaurant with Courtney, and said they would be in Dorsia, you can see that at least she has never been there and is having no clue what it would look like. Btw, which costumer in a restaurant would laugh in such a demonic way on the telephone, even if it's so extreme obvious that you don't get a table on the same evening there, as a "nobody". Dorsia just symbolizes the ridiculousness of unreachable glory, abundance, and status, which is unreachable, because it doesn't even exist. You don't have to agree, it's just my interpretation. (Btw, I'm not a native english speaker, so if you see grammar- or other errors, don't be mean and just show me what I wrote wrong, so I can learn from it, because I really want to improve my english skills, but my expierience is, that a lot of english speakers are forgetting, that everyone in the world just have to learn their language in order to participate, and then expect you to be perfect, meanwhile they don't have to learn any language genuinely. I don't mean everyone of you, but just a lot).

@hennerzz3460

3 жыл бұрын

i fucking loved this interpretation. Totally agree with it and never considered it before. Thanks! :)

@CorporateComedy

3 жыл бұрын

i like your idea too. makes sense

@SageKStroke52

3 жыл бұрын

Dorsia is real in the book. Patrick and his brother go to it near the end

@franz3810

2 жыл бұрын

@@SageKStroke52 also, Bethany's boyfriend co owns the place

@ashleighpeterson1510

2 жыл бұрын

Your English is Great! Love your take on things

That was something I really liked about hearing how the author felt about the movie compared to the book. To summarize the author felt like the movie missed the mark with its questioning whether or not the stuff Patrick says he does or is shown to do have actually happened and it's instead supposed to be more of a commentary on society at that time and how everyone was so self focused that they simply wouldn't notice or care about the stuff he does outside of work and social life.

@hardcoreking52

2 жыл бұрын

The director even admits she messed up, especially the shoot out with the police.

@LordVader1094

2 жыл бұрын

Well I disagree. It's a brilliant film BECAUSE of it questioning reality.

@kingetzel2755

Жыл бұрын

@@LordVader1094 Your opinion doesn't disagree with that statement though. Both can be true.

I like your analysis about the Patrick Bateman, I agree with most of the narration. I also would say their is no need for movie audio as I can personally replay the actual sound in my own head since I seen it 709 times already. great video.

That movie was wild. I think the big picture with the character is that he got so lost in the acting, the pretending that everyone else does, he lost site of who he was and only became his darkest impulses. I think the real Patrick is actually a nice guy who likes music, and stuff, but he feels he has to hide it under his skin for everyone else to see the person they want to. It just boils over and explodes, sometimes in his head, and sometimes in real life. Like when he asks his secretary out on a date and has her at his apartment. The scene is telling us that he is conflicted with killing her, like he doesn't want to but he can't stop the monster from coming out. At the end he lets her go because he actually has real feeling for her, and it's tragic how the only good thing he does for someone else is to push them away. Great video You got a subscription from me. I haven't seen all your other videos yet, but have you done a video on Lord Frolick from the hunchback of notridom. that would be cool.

“could be sitting next to you right at this moment.” Me who’s by myself: wait a minute

@CorporateComedy

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa

2 жыл бұрын

Trust nobody, not even yourself

@luminoustorus548

2 жыл бұрын

Mouse in the floorboards: *malicious squeaking intensifies*

There is just something about the your voice, vocab and the way you go about the subject matter that gives me chills every video. Keep it up I have been enjoying it tremendously.

I though i would be bored, yet somehow your voice is so soothing it pulled me in

Great video...one of favorite movies as of late. Good Job.