It really can't be said enough, fascists and communists don't hate each other because they're so different, they hate each other because they're so similar, and both require total dominance of culture and power.

@soulknife20

11 ай бұрын

In practice yes. In theory, no. At least if you have read Marx.

@markzuckergecko621

11 ай бұрын

​@@soulknife20theory is completely meaningless if the practice doesn't reflect it.

@soulknife20

11 ай бұрын

@@markzuckergecko621 Fair point.

@markzuckergecko621

11 ай бұрын

​​@@soulknife20socialism is like a pyramid scheme. It's never actually like the people trying to rope you into it tell you it is.

@christophe9602

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, no, it's because the commies want to destroy everything that is good, sacred and wholesome. In the words of someone else "they want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny."

The perfect argument for free speech: "we can't learn from them if they are silenced."

@RCx44

11 ай бұрын

*"learn how to beat them" but only because of npc types

@dietospawn4881

11 ай бұрын

Oh my, too bad no one can learn from N@ zis :(

@FerdarPleaseSubscribe

11 ай бұрын

They can easily influence the uninitiated (your boomer dad)

@DaveSCameron

11 ай бұрын

YES, KINDLY INFORM TODAY'S TOP BOOKBURNER #youtube

@majorian4897

11 ай бұрын

The perfect argument against it, is someone buying a bill board in front of your child's school and putting up porn for them to see every day..

"My genocidal collectivist ideology is completely different from your genocidal collectivist ideology."

@giovincomaz2175

11 ай бұрын

Fascism isnt genocidal, nazism is.

@doronaznible7298

11 ай бұрын

@@giovincomaz2175It is genocidal. Just not on the basis of race. I would consider Mussolini’s attempt to obliterate local Italian cultures and languages a form of soft genocide. Similar to Hitler’s destruction of local German cultures. If anything is against state unity, the fascist deems it necessary to destroy it.

@elLooto

11 ай бұрын

@@giovincomaz2175 "nothing outside the state" Think harder.

@anonymousAJ

11 ай бұрын

Nazism & communism are totalitarian & partisan (favoring the ethno-linguistic Germanics or workers) The promotion of a partisan faction via totalitarian methods results in genocide Fascism does not shy from violence or murder, but they claim to represent the nation state and through it all citizens, so they do not have a designated enemy group to genocide

@Si_Mondo

11 ай бұрын

​@@giovincomaz2175It didn't get a chance to be! The Austrian Painter stole the limelight, *and* ensured the cattle trains ran on time!

Why bother even calling themselves fascism if they are gonna deny being collectivists? Musollini was openly collectivist.

@TheImperatorKnight

11 ай бұрын

Well, they're technically not denying it. They're just saying "we're something that's collectivist and not collectivist at the same time". It's a typical tactic that all Socialists do to deny what they are - which is the core concept. By denying what they are, it makes us look like we don't understand them. They can just deny whatever it is we say about them or their position, and therefore 'prove' how stupid we supposedly are for not knowing what they 'truly' are, even though we know precisely what they are, and they never give us any definitions or explanations. It's the strategy of an idiot.

@markzuckergecko621

11 ай бұрын

It's like how all the covid crazies openly advocated for tyrannical policies, but simultaneously claimed it's actually not tyranny, because it's a good thing, and they like the good things, and you like the bad things.

@ionutmariandanielmanole7030

11 ай бұрын

​​​@@TheImperatorKnight there is this youtuber The Golden one who reviewed Juvola's books since he's on the right or far right. So did Academic Agent and The Lotus Eaters (Sargon's podcast or whatever it is) although I haven't seen it.

@die1mayer

11 ай бұрын

Fascist Collectivism is not as extreme as Communism. In Germany National-Socialism was seen as less radical alternative to Communism, the Nazis didn't want the state to take away the "productive"(non-jewish) Capital or traditional family farms (against soviet-style collectivization of agriculture).

@mnk9073

11 ай бұрын

Given the IQ of the average neo-nazi it's remarkable they have a grasp on the meaning of collectivism at all because let's be honest for most of them their "right wing politics" boils down to "luv me wife, luv me country, luv beer. Ate gays, ate foreigners, ate fancy words." Telling them Mussolini was a syndicalist who created syndicalism on steroids and called it _Fascism_ blows their mind because they have no idea what syndicalism is, or fascism for that matter or who Mussolini is, or that the man despite his many flaws was probably less racist than Winston Churchill....

Tik, please don't stop what you're doing. I'm a first year law student and I love watching all of your philosophical videos.

@TheImperatorKnight

11 ай бұрын

Don't worry, I have no intention of stopping :)

@ducthman4737

11 ай бұрын

Don't misuse it when you go in politics to become just another puppet of those behind the curtain.

@ferdinanddaratenas3447

11 ай бұрын

@@TheImperatorKnight This fascist essay seems coming from a strasserist website. I think there's a difference between regular national socialism and strasserism. Of course it's all garbage, but the latter was more communistic in its economic principles, I think. It's like the difference between the SS and the SA ("that wasn't real national socialism" lol).

@snagletoothscott3729

11 ай бұрын

@@TheImperatorKnight I'm liking the concept of the book reviews. It's important to show people not only to try and find primary sources, but how to *evaluate* those primary sources. Not all primary sources are equal. I read few years back of a huge debate about primary sources from a Virgina County. The issue was that, someone discovered the clerk at the time was actually a nephew of George Washington. he was a lazy worthless guy that George's sister begged him to help with, so he got him the clerk's job. It excelled at being as lazy and useless as possible there as he did in every endeavor and for the years he was in office the records are mess and such, many genealogist and historians are questioning the validity of using those documents as *reliable* primary sources without secondary documentation to back up them up, cause many many errors have been found in his record keeping. i have several relatives myself that were born in Illinois before the States required counties to keep up civic records. When Social security came along a flood of people were now having to get birth certificates called Delayed certificates of Birth. They required at least one witness to the birth. hence many of those dates are questionable, because they were recorded decades later from people who weren't even sure about dates at the time, much less able to remember in their 70's and 80's. Just because something's a primary source, or uses primary sources, doeskin mean those sources are reliable in and of themselves. people need to learn to investigate their sources, and to always try to find collaborating secondary sources for your primary source.

@daveharrison61

11 ай бұрын

​@@TheImperatorKnight I'm going to throw a wrinkle in your cats and dogs analogy for collective individualism. It's not that it's a bad analogy, it really isn't, it's just a little too simplistic. Dogs and cats DO compete within similar ecological niches. So to expand it, the dogs and the cats would be different societies in competition for resources and within the societies, individuals would be competing among themselves. This would tie in to the shrinking markets hypothesis as that would be the ecological niche.

Julius Evola wasn't a fascist. While he supported many aspect of it, he criticized it in his book "Fascism Viewed from the Right".

@tancreddehauteville764

11 ай бұрын

Yes, Evola was a traditionalist arch-conservative rather than a fascist. He was to the right of Mussolini.

@AreaAziroth51

11 ай бұрын

It’s very easy to ignore Evolva without confronting evolva in the post war years. Or looking up his French interview which is easily accessible on KZread where he says it (fascism) was basically a momentary political fad. His works on spiritual doctrine on Buddhism are interesting as they almost get close what typical adherents of the faith agree on but are confused as Evola unearths the hidden masculine orgins of Buddhism out of the modern trends. They will say though he’s off on how translates terms though, but his analysis is very interesting from an outsider perspective to them.

@mnk9073

11 ай бұрын

Evola was nothing but a whackjob with influential friends, pretty much like Dugin today. If you want to understand Mussolini look to Gabriele D’Annunzio instead. Modern "Fascists" don't like to do that because their current ideas have little to do with the ideas of the past if they aren't straight up running contrary to them.

@vorynrosethorn903

11 ай бұрын

He was madder than a box of frogs.

@christophe9602

11 ай бұрын

@@tancreddehauteville764 He said it himself at his show trial. He was "supra-fascisti". A super-fascist. As in "beyond fascist".

Tik you never fail to inform me! This is probably THE most compressive WW2 era KZread channel ever! Thank you for the hours of historical documentations!

Is strange, after I discovered TIK, his videos help me to understand better my religion, as a Christian I was confront in many cases to negated coletivism and embrace individualism, but only after TIK Public vs Private I understand that, in some weird way, thank you TIK to make me a better christian and individualist person

@raygiordano1045

11 ай бұрын

Same with me. I am glad I gave TIK's videos a try, his POV is both interesting and, as far as I can tell, very accurate.

@SchmulKrieger

11 ай бұрын

So you believe in a God? That's so absurd.

@fsa7703

11 ай бұрын

@@SchmulKrieger Why? Exist various logical arguments in favor of God

@SchmulKrieger

11 ай бұрын

@@fsa7703 why do we need a collective noun called God to say existence when we have the word existence already or other words, like nature, cosmos, universe, World, material word and non material world, soul etc. Those words seem so senseless and unuseful, because we have the collective noun God. 🙄

@fsa7703

11 ай бұрын

@@SchmulKrieger Because I am a Christian, and I believe in the personification of God in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. World, universe, cosmos... In my faith are creations of God, not God himself.

THIS is why I'm a supporter. You have stumbled into the elephant in the room, and you have the skills to make it visible, both to those who are under its spell, and to others who deny its existence. I've vaguely known about the Gnostic problem for years, but I've not been able to work out how it's been made to work in the modern, largely secular world. This is utter genius, TIK. All power to your mega-zord! Or not. Please keep digging, but be careful. it's easy to end up seeing a Gnostic under every bush.

@sdrc92126

11 ай бұрын

I've known about the Gnostic problem and it was driving me crazy all of these historical coincidences (I'm not a historian and was not actively searching for anything) that seemed non-random. I just didn't know anything about gnosticism or even its existence, but yes now I can see it everywhere. "Modernity has become the most successful Gnostic myth in history."

Finally, a tuber who got dialectics right in one line: thesis-antithesis-synthesis. It was even said in passing only, incidental. Glad I caught that though.

Just yesterday I was looking for videos that looked more in depth into fascist economics, and TIK once again provides what I'm looking for. Cheers mate!

I'm really happy with where you've been going with the channel lately. Thanks for all you do.

“We can’t learn about someone’s ideas if they’re silenced” may be the most important free speech argument I’ve ever heard!

I used to call myself a fascist back in high school, not really knowing what it really was. Looking back, I saw it as a phase, but rather than going emo like some kids back then I just jumped on the fascist wagon instead. Then, as the years went on, the media started to make all these claims about how fascism is on the rise and such. Luckily, I was over my fascist phase but was confused as to what the media was claiming. It then led me to some KZread commentators claiming that the ideology was never right wing but rather left, which brought me to your channel. All I can say is thank you, Tik, for steering me away from fascism and other "ideologies." You actually show that they're nothing more than cults or religions that want to destroy the very nature of man.

@ImperialKnight86

11 ай бұрын

How did you interpret Fascism if you didn’t know what it was? Attracted to power, or sense of identity? Education is very important in schools. Unfortunately, it’s indoctrination rather than information.

@sdrc92126

11 ай бұрын

"But the devil’s goal is not only to present man with an egalitarian vision of the universe, but also a vision that destroys the very concept of being. He wants to implement a state of nothingness, to reabsorb creation into the primitive nothingness, which is gnosis." Haha... I just read this on another site 30 seconds before I read your comment

@maxhouse2409

11 ай бұрын

If I understood the last sentence correctly, these political ideologies want to subsume the very nature of man into their system of state worship. Everyone becomes a sacrificial lamb on call at the behest of the ruling collective.

@Inquisitor_Lelouch

11 ай бұрын

@maxhouse2409 Yes, that's exactly what I meant. Sorry for the confusion.

@AverageAlien

11 ай бұрын

​@@ImperialKnight86I was the same as him. The only reason I embraced it was because it was unpopular. As a contrarian, I have to contradict everything popular you see.

Humans derive meaning in the conquest of suffering. It actually makes sense based on how people act when they have all their needs met but no challenge to keep them occupied. They often go out of their way to needlessly create a challenge.

@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin

11 ай бұрын

straight out of what jordan peterson said

You should analyze Theodore Kaczynski’s thoughts on Leftism from a modern perspective.

@finlaymcdiarmid5832

11 ай бұрын

Kaczynski's manifesto is like the definition of a red pill. Brilliantly assaults the state(s) and its crimes.

@danielc1136

11 ай бұрын

Yes!

@kimjongwaifu3742

11 ай бұрын

It's a bit outside of his normal wheelhouse, but I'd watch the hell outta that.

@LiftOffLife

11 ай бұрын

​ Me too 👍🏻

@wened2368

11 ай бұрын

Ted Kaczynski🥰🥰🥰😍😍🤩🤩🥰🥰

The fact that you're able to discuss and explain these ideas at all, let alone as objective as you're doing here, is a rare thing indeed and speaks volumes about you as a human being

@user-yj8fg3pc9h

11 ай бұрын

Описание диалектики на этом канале абсолютно ложно. Никто и никогда с 19 века не понимал диалектику как отрицание истины и совмещение противоречащих тезисов. Диалектика это наука о развитии, а не об истине. Синтез не приносит истины, он просто создает новый тезис. Диалектика описывает реальность, а не идеал. Нет сомнений, что эта клевета умышленная. Никто и никогда не критиковал диалектику таким образом.

@yeshuamcfly1154

11 ай бұрын

​@@user-yj8fg3pc9hit's weird watching him talk about the 3rd position's point of view in such a heavily religious way as well. The problems and solutions have never been considered "sacred secrets" as far as I've known. It's the purposeful suppression of the literal actual Truth (not God, objective truth about reality) that's caused so much confusion and it's why the author introduces it in the way he does

@DerEinzigWahreAlman

11 ай бұрын

@@user-yj8fg3pc9h bro what

You, Academy of Ideas and James Lindsay are always on my watch list. I constantly rewatch videos from all three chanels as they seem to compliment eachother. Keep up the good work TIK. Much love from Brasil. Stay free!

@yansimabucuro6303

11 ай бұрын

The three channels bring a historic, phillosophical and political view on the current socialism the left is pushing on us.

@anonymousAJ

11 ай бұрын

I like Academy of Ideas - Aristotelian / Niezschean insights I think the Will to Power is misunderstood - could be called Will to Vitality but could not be called Will to Dominance

@Al-xq4ec

10 ай бұрын

You should look into Objectivism too then.

You didn't have to drop a video on my birthday Tik but I do appreciate it! Just don't tell my family this is my favorite present so far...

@ericfrehlich8800

11 ай бұрын

Happy birthday

@TheImperatorKnight

11 ай бұрын

Happy Birthday!

Would be pretty cool if you went on the lotus eaters, I’ll be interested to see you and Carl have a talk

@whiggles9203

11 ай бұрын

@sydmccreath4554 True. Maybe even Academic Agent.

"There is a difference between going to church on Sunday and trying form the megazoid" - TIK 2023

One note on being in the Army. At no point do you cease being an individual. While the training, tactics, and doctrines REQUIRE teamwork, these do not require the destruction of the individual for the sole sake of the whole. While self discipline and "good order and discipline" on the unit level are important to all soldiers, the Army seeks constantly to promote, retrain for new roles, reward service with college benefits, etc. Why? Because every officer and NCO in the Army understands that service in the military is only one part of being a person and being a soldier does not define the PERSON as if every person is a one dimensional being defined only by what they do to get paid. So when they point to the military, they are displaying the same ignorance of that as they do with everything else. These belief systems are nothing but neck beard wet dreams in which their wholly inadequate intellects and capacities are magically in charge.

@aleksazunjic9672

11 ай бұрын

Really ? Ours is not to reason why; ours is but to do and die 😁

@raumfahreturschutze

11 ай бұрын

@@aleksazunjic9672 Nice moto movie quote. We were talking about real life, though.

@petrus9

11 ай бұрын

The army is all about self sacrifice for the group though. Dying for your brothers. Dying for your 'country'. Being forced to follow orders or else be reprimanded. The military will be the last vestige of the collectivist state.

@MSP_TechLab

11 ай бұрын

I think it depends on army. If you need nothing more than cannon meat (russians), you will not care about what soldier thinks as a person.

@justifiably_stupid4998

11 ай бұрын

Militaries classify some of their members as expendable. One of my duties for 16 hours a week was to stand on the outer perimeter as a soft target to be shot. The sound of gunshots was a signal for the inner perimeters to harden. My CO also had a loaded pistol in his locker to commit suicide if captured. Mission first.

I very much enjoy your manner of dismissing ridiculous, contradictory ideas with the irreverence and mockery they deserve. 😆

You hit a point that everyone else misses: fascists are not materialists. They are spiritualists who desire spiritual strength, moral hierarchy, and a triumph over external threats. You refer to them as a cult but there are merely the other side of the mind/body dichotemy.

@LeavingGoose046

11 ай бұрын

I feel this is an important point to take into account as it is easier to convince them of their error when you account for what they actually care about.

@SchmulKrieger

11 ай бұрын

While Nationalsocialists are highly materialists.

@Ninety-Nine__

11 ай бұрын

More succintly, a "cult of victory" (Augusto del Noce).

step 1: collect underpants step 2: step 3: ultimate truth

Book tip: The Occult Roots of Nazism: The Ariosophists of Austria and Germany, 1890-1935 Author Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke wrote a PhD thesis on this subject.

@lollypop333100

11 ай бұрын

the intresting question here is...why was it Austria and Germany?

@a2akustik

11 ай бұрын

@@lollypop333100 Partialy the zeitgeist of the time, partialy the huge mix of ethnicities, languages, religions etc. that were the staple of Austria/Hungary/(Balkans). Germany was more unified but the rule of the aristocratic/burgois elite was also a huge burden on the farmers workers and plebs, so it is not supprising that a lot of people were looking for an political/gnostic explanation/alternative.

@sdrc92126

11 ай бұрын

Random question...did Rockefeller have any influence? I think he was into new ageianism and eugenics. I just got a book on him, but haven't read it yet. All of these ideas and beliefs seem to surround Blavatsky some way.

@joemccarthy4270

11 ай бұрын

@@lollypop333100 Austrians to this day deny being German . Hitler was Austrian. Maybe WW2 isn't remotely what history records it as.

@FortniteBlaster2

7 ай бұрын

Nazi's weren't occultist

To any former socialist of any form: Good luck on your journey, I recommend Mises. Stay strong, learn to be free.

@SchmulKrieger

11 ай бұрын

What I find witty, Mises tells how the market function, but reality fails to portray his words.

@UmaROMC

11 ай бұрын

@@SchmulKrieger mises takes care to describe a prioristic praxeological categories relating to the reality of human nature, and the nature of the world as it presents themselves to us. This is in no way invalidated by the empirical observation that some people don't realize this, and that some make use of that ignorance to control their fellow man. If you cannot see that, you should keep your illconceived remarks to yourself. I'm am industrial electrician, how do i understand this better than yiu do?

@SchmulKrieger

11 ай бұрын

@@UmaROMC and leaves out that human nature is to gang up, built huge tribes, nations whatever. He simply fails human nature, because his is only an abstraction, a God in his texts.

@anonymousAJ

11 ай бұрын

Marx's labor theory of value places all commodities on a single scale of value and thus creates zero-sum thinking Exchanges are more for less (exploitative) or equal for equal (pointless) rather than A for B (mutually beneficial) This zero-sum thinking turns everything into a power struggle instead of cooperation in pursuit of mutual flourishing Applied to race, sex, etc you get woke

@malcolmfreeman7802

11 ай бұрын

real socialists dont change -youre thinking of he pseudo one s like TIK

It is possible to cooperate and compete with someone at the same time, because there can be varying intensities of conflict. You can compete with other members of the same athletic team to see who can score the most points, while still striving more stringently to defeat the opposing team. It is possible to survive, even beyond death, without reproducing, by contributing something else to humanity, or whatever subgroup one favors, such as creative productivity, military service, etc. Dogs and cats may not compete for mates, but they do compete for food very often; arguably an even more important component of survival overall. I agree with most of what you say, but these flaws are significant and should be addressed.

Thank you. As Israeli you helped me to understand the path my government leads. It is a kind of mix of Religious and Socialism. I can see the hypocrisy of their statements.

@JulianH-co7qg

11 ай бұрын

Keep me posted bro, what's going on in Israel? You guys going full fascist?

@rostdreadnorramus4936

9 ай бұрын

​@@JulianH-co7qgThe sad irony if they are.

@praz7

8 ай бұрын

​​@@rostdreadnorramus4936not irony but the eye opener for why they were expelled and persecuted in the first place. Why did every single European country come to same conclusion. If it was just one person or one country it would make sense but how can everyone be wrong at the same time? And how can everyone come to exact same conclusion about them?

If someone wants to know what modern fascism is nowadays you can look at Argentina. Perón was a fascist argentinian who was in fascist Italy and when he came back to Argentina he implemented the fascist policies that where there (some of them where a copypaste) and he even did things like helping national socialist scape there with "their" gold. What Argentina has right now is a openly modern form of peronism (and therefore fascism) wich is to no surprise very left leaning and still has those bases from fascism such as corporativism, syndicalism etc.... It can also be found in Spain with Sumar (a conglomerate of a few very left leaning parties) wich literaly means "to add" (as joining forces) wich is not only run by a politician who I would call a modern fascist (she is very, very close to it, she was the one who run the ministry of labour and in previous ages she was a key part of syndicalism wich she showed these previous years). This can be seen in that Podemos ("we can") not only is tied to the politics of Argentina and honor them but their economic program and policies are almost the same as the Falange, the clasical fascist party, in fact the lider of said party said that and that they could be able to understand each others because of that and get to an agreement. Even the name of the coalition resembles fascism, the fascio is a fascist symbol because it represents their beliving in collectivism and how if they join politically they can be strongly enough to encounter everything and that can be see in both their coalition and their name wich again can be interpreted as to join, as a sum of it. The same way comunism evolved and left nationalism behind in some of their modern forms and joined few collectivistics ideologuies/sects known for most as "wokeness" (or whatever you wanna call it, femisim, anti racism, pro lgtb etc...) so did fascism in a similar fashion

@zalandarr

11 ай бұрын

or just look at russia, should get russian translations lol. cult of putin

@Dario-uj6qo

11 ай бұрын

@@zalandarr I know almost nothing about Russia politicaly aside from Putin being athoritarian and it being in a scretchy situation to be honest

@JuanIgnacioRiveroMaciel

11 ай бұрын

Pensé que era el unico argentino acá jajajajaj gracias por decir lo que todos los argentinos estamos pensando. Estaría bueno que Tik haga un video sobre Perón si algún día tiene la paciencia para leer sobre tan inmundo ser.

@Dario-uj6qo

11 ай бұрын

@@JuanIgnacioRiveroMaciel en realidad soy español, tan solo se algo sobre lo que ocurrió allá. And yeah, a look there would be great plus some other topics but I don't think my petitions can reach him and I don't know if he would listen to us in that sense

@aleksazunjic9672

11 ай бұрын

For a country like Argentina (mixed-race society, large inequality in abilities) ... some kind of populist fascism is the best system. It would give large masses some bread and circus, while ensuring stability for more gifted parts of society.

“Strength in Numbers” refers to the same concept I believe you mentioned in your Hitler’s Socialism video. The individual sacrificing his or her individuality to be part of the group, the collective, to achieve socialist goals. I can’t remember if you gave it a name or simply described it.

These subjects are very heavily tangled up and in my mind becomes a big knot with me not being able to untangle but you do it perfectly TIK. You're like that parent who simplifies everything and then teaches you how to do yourself, making me feel like I'm growing up. I was always tripping over myself and now I feel like I can walk without tripping over myself, plus didn't know how esoteric these philosophies whereby a distorted faith is lying behind them. Thank you TIK.

All this supernatural talk the Fascists speak of brings to my mind the Nazis from Indiana Jones doing witchcraft around the Ark of the Covenant and getting their faces melted off by spirits.

@SchmulKrieger

11 ай бұрын

Die Bundeslade, which is in fact a Judaist figure. LoL. You need to learn about history and this stuff.

So basically, third positionists are Lovecraftian cultists trying to awaken some cosmic horror. Got it.

@Michael-Archonaeus

11 ай бұрын

A gross oversimplification. If this is all you got from this video, then I think you lack comprehension.

@justifiably_stupid4998

11 ай бұрын

I see the sarcasm. Yes I think there could have been less analogizing of the organic superstructure as some sort of God. If you take God to mean an ultimate end, then it makes more sense.

@Michael-Archonaeus

11 ай бұрын

@@justifiably_stupid4998 The god of Moses simply identified himself as the supreme being, meaning he was existence itself personified. That god is a fact of reality, nothing can exist without that god, so everyone believes in the god of Moses, whether they will admit it or not. Existence caused the universe to be, that is an undisputed fact.

@SchmulKrieger

11 ай бұрын

@@Michael-Archonaeus from a German philosophical point: does existence even be?

@Michael-Archonaeus

11 ай бұрын

@@SchmulKrieger Well, do you exist?

Excellent, well-researched content (as usual) that is communicated logically and without being overly critical or hateful.

This isn't terrible coverage of the issue but I do take umbrage with some of the ideological tone your more recent videos have taken. For instance, you claim that one can only ever be an individual or a member of a group collective, and this is steadfastly false. Even within a group collective there are competitive individuals, individuals which are more or less loyal to the group depending on the circumstances, etc. In the military, there are individuals giving orders and taking orders not necessarily out of faith for the cause but because if that chain of command were to break down, they'd be routed, killed, or imprisoned in POW camps. It's an individual choice to belong to a collective, or to create a collective from whole cloth to achieve goals which cannot be achieved individually. As an individual in a group, depending on your role, you have no choice but to submit yourself to some of the whims of the overall group. This is the case right down to the nuclear family, the former smallest unit of civil society. Additionally, it absolutely is the case that society and biology are rife with contradictions. There is no such thing as any organically existing thing which does not live in a state of balance between competing forces, nor is there any school of thought which is entirely logically consistent AND accurately reflects the state of reality. The world we live in today is so interwoven and the organizations we are subjected to are so massive that it's impossible for there not to be contradictions in its functioning. And yet, despite that tension, and despite the many moments in which certain tensions break, it is still ultimately functional -- more functional than any system which has existed before. This isn't to say that contradiction is or should be the goal, but that managing those contradictions works pretty well for the time being, even if there are innocents caught in the crossfire when certain battles flare up. I'm not saying this out of love for any particular regime or any ideological commitment to or against liberalism, but when you look around, things are far more stable than they used to be. It wasn't so long ago that people in so-called developed countries regularly starved to death; today that's practically unheard of, and it was the combination of statecraft and adherence to objective economic principles that made that possible. Regarding the nakedly ideological stances you take: I don't care much, I recognize everyone interested in these highly granular discussions is coming at it from their own perspective or through the lens of critics they admire, but the harping on how the state is ultimately the root of all theft and violence and inflation and class warfare is incredibly simplistic. "Taxation is theft" is a moral claim, not an objective one, and it collapses the role of the state throughout all of recorded history (indeed, without the development of the state, there'd be no history to speak of) into a cartoon villain not unlike the caricature of capitalists adopted by Marxists or of Jews adopted by Nazis. Your points would be better supported if you viewed these developments as organic outcomes to human civilizational development based upon the pressures of the time in which they occurred, rather than as a perennial war on all by the only organizations with monopolies on the use of violence. That monopoly is fundamentally necessary in order to secure the markets you speak so fondly of. At the same time, you often argue we've never had capitalism or "true" free markets; what does that tell you about your political orientation? To me it reads as just as utopian as the communism foretold by Marxists, a world that has never existed because it can never exist. Taking for instance natural free-floating prices: the nominal price of goods can never accurately reflect the actual value of those goods because there is always a delay in or absence of information which would affect its price. Price has to be struck somewhere at some point to maximize profits (either from the good itself or from other goods sold by the same firm), but without perfect real-time surveillance of the entire economy at once, prices will always be an imperfect indicator for the state of the economy because they will always be slightly out of step with the real value of goods. This isn't to say it's a worthless metric, obviously not, nor is this to say that price caps and subsidies don't have distortionary effects on the rest of the economy in which they are imposed, but it is to say that pricing itself is merely representational, much like virtually any other economic phenomena we've given a name to. I felt the same way when you mentioned GDP being a worthless fake indicator; it's imperfect and can be gamed, sure, but so can everything else. Markets generally tend towards consolidation anyway, in search of those more perfect price surveillance and profit maximization capabilities, and where they don't, it's the state that breaks them up so as to limit the power that monopolistic firms/cartels have (and to entrench the state's role in managing the economy). GDP is still as much an indicator of economic health as nominal prices are, since all these values constantly change depending on 1. what's actually happening in the economy, 2. who's reporting these figures, and 3. how they're choosing to report them and for what reason. Again, proof of contradiction in large dynamic systems, proof of individual actors coalescing into groups, proof of markets and the state being intimately linked, each requiring the other in order to function at all. In general I like your videos, I find your willingness to tackle such controversial subjects admirable, and I wish your channel success but I did feel compelled to mention some of my good-faith criticisms.

@limpida5404

11 ай бұрын

Additionally: I take great umbrage with the tactic of yourself and other liberals like James Lindsay who claim that all of these ideologies which are opposed to liberalism are merely remnants of a gnostic religious tradition. You can certainly make that argument, but it has flimsy backing. It's obfuscatory at best. The stated goals of these movements often do not match their actions (as is the case with any ideologue) but there is no secret gnosticism behind it all. They may be utopian, they may have ardent faith in principles which do not comport well with reality, but that doesn't mean they're all branches of the same gnostic religious tradition, especially not when they come to such heavy blows with each other on a scale similar to World War II. Liberalism also fought hard during that war and ultimately won. Many of the neo-fascist or communistic movements popping up today do share a through-line with each other but it's often not in the text they're reading or the solutions they're seeking; it's within the behavioral and social dynamics of the internet, and their adoption of radical utopian positions emerges from the type of discourse they're engaged in. Ordinary liberals do this too, whether they be right- or left-leaning. This phenomenon is not specific to the internet but the internet does exacerbate it. Rather than trying to lump all of these various radicals under one umbrella of "gnostic" and calling it a day, and doing so almost exclusively by nitpicking their stated arguments solely from that critical lens, it might be best to zoom out of what they say they believe in and analyze how these movements came about. What was the context in which they emerged? What kind of people belong to them? How are they similar? How are they different? What is the basis for their decision to organize? What type of actions are they engaged in (if any)? Is there a specific psychological profile to the leadership vs. the members? What does the structure of their organization look like? These questions are far more revelatory than the manifestos alone, and should only be taken in tandem with their stated ideological convictions, never separately. I think your older video comparing Mosley, Mussolini, and Hitler did a much better job of this, and was much more careful in highlighting the differences between the three. Now, I think in attempting to foment critique of these movements, you've adopted an ideological lens yourself which limits your capacity to do so. This is similar to myself when I was highly critical of what I saw as fascist influence in my online circles and I came around to left-wing theory. Then in critiquing leftists, I nearly circles back around before I backed out of any ideological commitment completely and just started reading for the sake of understanding the impacts left by all of these towering movements, thinkers, and empires which have risen and fallen. You appear to have done so while adopting libertarianism as your critical method, which has turned into an unspoken positive project of sorts. Again, that's fine, I have no real personal issue with libertarians (or fascists or communists or liberals or whoever else), but I think it would do your channel well to maybe break away from that (and perhaps even begin a robust critique of it?) for the intellectual exercise that it is.

@Arkantos117

11 ай бұрын

HIs ideological "we are all individuals" and "there's no such thing as race" spiel reminds me a lot of Thatcher with her "there is no such thing as society" line. Yes I am an individual within my family but I still try to further the interests of my family, then my community, kin and so on. That's how we can best pass on our genes and everyone should want there to be more people like them in the future. Yes I am in some competition with other members of my ethnic group but at the end of the day if they win they're still passing on more similar genes to myself than a member of another group.

@andrija3000

11 ай бұрын

Very well said, I do not understand how he gets so much praise, in my opinion this is just one big strawman argument, and he is trying to cram as much things as he doesn't like into the gnostic cultism theory. I think his biggest mistake is taking what is said by some individuals verbatim, instead of analyzing what they did, Stalin could have a secret diary where he said he loves capitalism and hates marx and whatnot, but it would be stupid to analyze this as his ideology when it clearly is not. I don't mind him being against any ideology, but he clearly has a huge bias which he never addresses, nor does he ever explain things he claims as facts that are just his opinion. I just wish he analyzed it from a historical perspective, with multiple sources, analyzed what happend, rather than just making hitler is actually the same as stalin and basically communism is evil part 27

@limpida5404

11 ай бұрын

@@andrija3000 I agree. I do actually like that he positions Hitler and Stalin as similar based on the actual arguments and actions they took in part because I do believe there is ample evidence to suggest Marxist influence on the development of both Bolshevism and National Socialism (and in all honesty I think Hitler was closer to Marx in spirit than Stalin, despite the disavowals) but he treats them both as boogeymen who were simply ideologically opposed to perfect free markets which by his own admission have never existed. In truth his content did used to be much more historicist in outlook but that time has clearly passed. As for the praise he gets, I do understand this. Any content taking any sort of position on anything is going to attract people who view the world similarly, especially if as granularly dissected as he does it. I understand exactly where the commenters from Eastern European countries come from given my family are from former Warsaw Pact countries. What he says about those places and times isn't strictly wrong but even true things can validate biases. Something as simple as citing a source can fool a lot of people even if the citation isn't used for much else but rhetorical dunking.

@elLooto

11 ай бұрын

It appears that you are conflating a voluntary co-operative collective of individuals with collectivism (which is imposed, involuntary). A group of people voluntarily deciding to work together for common cause (like some mates deciding to make a computer game, and sell it for profit), and while it could be called a collective, is most definitely not the same as a demand to place the collective above oneself based on some perceived common innate factor, like nationality, race, sex, class, religion, etc. The difference is, as always, the element of coercion.

Tik, as far as I understand Julius Evola was neither a fascist or a national socialist; in fact, he criticized both ideologies fervently. His book, “Fascism Viewed From The Right”, is composed entirely of his problems with Italian Fascism from the point of view of a reactionary traditionalist. I don’t think Evola ever tried to blend Fascism and National Socialism into one as he disliked both of them; National Socialism even more so. I think it would be beneficial to read both “Revolt Against The Modern World” and “Fascism Viewed From The Right” to get a better understanding of Evola’s ideas.

@doronaznible7298

11 ай бұрын

For whatever reason, TIK refuses to read or understand Evola at all. He seems to have just written him off as the Italian Himmler

@ThyCorylus

11 ай бұрын

@@doronaznible7298 He was the Italian Himmler, in terms of finding a way to communicate (or unify as Tik says) the two ideologies for political purposes. @OP: I also distrust Evola's reflective criticism of his erstwhile ideological bedfellow in Fascism Viewed From The Right. It reads as a covering of ones tracks to compensate from the failure of the ideology (one he actively participated in and I believe, had faith in) for credibility purposes. In the end it's all academic though. Evola's ideas are just another dead end.

@doronaznible7298

11 ай бұрын

⁠@@ThyCorylusNo he wasn’t. He was never a member of the fascist party, and his works were actively censored by the Italian government. He even had to escape from the SS as they viewed him as dangerous and subversive. And no. He never once tried to combine fascism and Nazism together. If you look at fascism and Evola, you’ll realise the man had very little in common with it. Evola was an aristocrat that despised fascism and Nazism’s insistence on socialist economics, nationalism and obsession with a mono cultural state.

Thanks for your videos, TIK. Amazing content AS ALWAYS!

"Pride marched into the Gulag" :'D I will quote this forever^^

I once fell for the cult. Covid19 socialism made me snap out of it. Either national, international or democratic or fascist socialism are the same.

@anonymousAJ

11 ай бұрын

"democratic" This one is important - socdems and progressives share the same principles as the radical socialists and will reach the same outcomes given enough time and power

@malcolmfreeman7802

11 ай бұрын

no theyre not - youre just ignorant -are you that way cause you believe this shill or purposely not learn nothing about covid19 was socialist if you double down youre a moron

@666Ekinox

11 ай бұрын

@@malcolmfreeman7802 it's all about managing or shaping the society, Society is people, you are being manage, like cattle.,

Love your philosophical economical political vids👍. One detail: marxists defined socialism as 90% of means of production is owned by "people", meaning state. The remaining 10% were the small hill farms impossible to colectivise. And btw, everytime some of these ideologies mention "struggle" it is invariably excuse and justification to terrorise people they don't like

Hi Tik love your videos! If you are concerned about the third positionists channel from being taken down, you can download and archive the videos. Thus if it is taken down, you still have all the material to work with and reference. Another brilliant video Tik, keep up the good work! Have you done any work on looking at Pol Pots Cambodia and their brand of ideology ? I think it would be a very interesting thing for you to cover. Once again, brilliant video and keep up the god tier level work!

@TheImperatorKnight

11 ай бұрын

Yeah I have been recording his videos and taking notes, but I haven't done them all. I did read a book on Pol Pot's Cambodia when I was in college, but I haven't done any deep work on it. It is something I'll cover at some point, but I think Stalin might be something I should cover first once I've done more videos on Marxism in general.

@ZoranZoltanous

11 ай бұрын

@@TheImperatorKnightyou checked mine at all lol

@whiggles9203

11 ай бұрын

@@TheImperatorKnight Who is this youtuber? Please tell

Your gnostic hypothesis seems a pretty rich vein. Religious aspects of collectivism have been manifest at least since 20 Prairial Year II and Herbert’s Cult of Reason. The same tendencies have surfaced in every socialist movement, and socialist state over the years. Your ideas here make a real contribution to understanding the common character of socialism in all its various forms. Really great work!

"Youre either a collectivist or an individualist" Have you ever heard of a community? You can be an individual within a community and still work towards common goals as a community.

@rainick

11 ай бұрын

Communities are made up of individuals, only individuals can determine what a common goal is, and if they work towards them. Thus individualism. There is no collectivism there what so ever.

@fakeorchestra4260

11 ай бұрын

Collectivism and individualism are a way of analysing politics, not a rule in your behaviour towards others. "Individualist" does not mean "anti-social", it just means that you consider the individual the most important actor in politics and in general. "Collectivists" see groups as entities in their own right, while individuals are merely cells working in tandem, which individualists do not adhere to. An individualist would say "A group is a bunch of individuals working for a shared goal" while with collectivists it is more that an individual is someone who is a part of a group working for a certain goal.

@rainick

11 ай бұрын

@@fakeorchestra4260 Explained it better than I could

I really like the research you do on modern day 3rd positionism, it brings it to light and shows how it has evolved over time under the radar. Great video as always.

Everytime you quoted the book, all I could hear was "Submit to the state. Submit to the nation. Sumbit to society. Submit to more important interests that transcend you." Tell me again why people believe that Marxism and Fascism are radically different? Why are there people that think that Fascism is like "Ultra Capitalism"? Why do they think that Marx and Hitler are opposites?

@juanpaz5124

11 ай бұрын

Super duper mega capitalism where u can't freely hire or fire workers😂

@BigHenFor

11 ай бұрын

Because the analysis is desperately inaccurate. Collectivism is the leverage to power. Beyond that, it's potluck what they purport to believe. The nation state is only a framework for mass political power. The national economy is a framework to leverage control over mass resources. After that, it's pick your poison on how it is ordered: race, nation, state, religion, hierarchy, economy. Individuality is sacrificed to Order. They are all claims to legitimacy. But, in civilisation Individuals need to cooperate to get by, and thus, how we cooperate with each other should really defined from the granular level of the individual. But, will it ever be so? No. Somebody will always try to impose their vision of order won't they? Lol.

@anonymousAJ

11 ай бұрын

Marxists uses totalitarian methods to promote the weak (proles), leading to genocide of the strong (kulaks). National socialism uses totalitarian methods to promote the strong (the Germanic ethno-linguistic "nation") leading to genocide of the weak (JQ) Fascism uses totalitarian methods to promote the nation state itself, and implicitly all citizens So Nazism and Marxism are opposites once you have accepted totalitarian socialism as the status quo (rejecting liberalism and feudalism) Both despise fascism for protecting the enemy class In my view fascism will inevitably fail because it's a totalitarian socialist project, but it's likely to lead to much less death than Marxist communism or national socialism

@malcolmfreeman7802

11 ай бұрын

because they are - but of course you wouldnt know that if you believed this shill Marxism is a different ideology than National Socialism Heres the best video on Marx and socialism and its nothing like hitler kzread.info/dash/bejne/pIaM2LOudZzef5c.html

@LeavingGoose046

11 ай бұрын

I once watched a video about how 1984 is a bad dystopia because of how Orwell doesn't underline the ideology of the party past "power for power's sake". What I believe the person missed is that it seems to me that it was a central and intentional statement about the ideologies of the time (the different socialisms, Marxism and Fascism) rather than a misguided and boring world building choice. I believe this statement of these different brands of socialism ultimately being the same twisted drives for power is relevant here.

Thank you TIK for you continuing work and sorting of information about political-economic-religious ideological doctrine. It helps to explain the structural organization parallel from Stanislav Andreski's 'Military Organization & Society'. Edit: my thought years ago was why totalitarianism was painted in terms of classic Left and Right, where these are societies that require high levels of collectivization/participation (high Military Participation Rate) to maintain high levels of stratification/hierarchy.

The thing is there is a thing called group selection in natural selection. It is when different organisms compete one a collective. Aka think tribe 1 which are all more closer related to eachother than tribe 2. Hence if you are a member of tribe 1 the victory of tribe 1 over 2 means you win as your genes get spread further through the other in the tribe.

@anonymousAJ

11 ай бұрын

Natural selection operates on the level of the gene, not the individual or the group So I can "profitably" sacrifice my personal interests for my family much more than for my tribe and still more than I can for my race See Dawkins' The Selfish Gene for more

Has fascism and/or national socialism evolved over time? - It became social justice? Also, I think the terms liberal and socialists are as misused by people on the right as fascist and conservatives are by people on the extreme left. A liberal is not a socialist and vice versa. That seems to be a pollution of terms brought about from America.

@markzuckergecko621

11 ай бұрын

Socialists tend to lie about what they genuinely believe, depending on the audience. They'll often pretend to be liberal when they're in a more moderate setting, to hide how far left they actually are. That's where a lot of the confusion comes from. It's also why they think everyone right of center is a secret fascist, they're projecting. They think because they lie about how extreme their views are, everyone else must be lying too, and they're on the opposite extreme.

@militaristaustrian

11 ай бұрын

It has evolved and is a Cluster fuck like leftism but im not sure if it can be seen as social justice but it became a kind of non racist racism or anti racism racism ( exept the skin Heads , they are insane). I did a few deep dives about that

@kimjongwaifu3742

11 ай бұрын

Socialism is giving up property for the collective. Fascism is giving up your rights, soul, AND property to the collective. And the point of forgetting history is to repeat it. The left forgot what communists and fascists belive... so they're free to repeat the mistakes of the past. Social Justice is that movement.

@ArgentWolf95

11 ай бұрын

Fascism became Third Positionism. Socialism (including National) became a genus of Intersectionality, aka Social Justice or "wokeness."

Also, for those who believe central planning and direction are viable strategies, it came to light after the Soviet Union collapsed that their economy was roughly 5-10% the size of the US's. That being said, the ministry in charge of price controls had to keep track of 30-40 million prices. At a TENTH of our economy! I can't fathom trying to keep track of 300 million prices, if not vastly more today (2024). The fact that collectivists assume they are capable of doing this is a great display of their narcissism

To pin down the philosophical ideas behind fascism is a tricky issue on account that, unlike marxism, the literature surrounding it came well after its inception as a political movement. Accordingly, there have been a number of opposing thinkers which have been labeled as either forerunners or outright exponents of fascism: Marinetti, Nietzsche, Hegel, Sorel, Gentile, Evola, Heidegger etc. For instance, the ideas taken up by the book above are downright platonic. Another book published by Iron March titled A Squire's Trial even reads as a socratic dialogue.

@Ratselmeister

11 ай бұрын

Heidegger, Nietzsche, Hegel as foreunners or outright exponents of fascism? Are you serious? Have you even read one of them?

Imagine that when I met Jeffrey Tucker (former editor of Mises Institute website) and we started talking away from prying ears of younger libertarians, discussing Carl Schmitt and what not, he suddenly came up with Julius Evola and immediately lit up when I replied I knew that figure. He seemed really content that I summed up Evola's thought as basically "crank". God knows how much fascination he used to have for the perverse baron...

Keep going, man! I absolutely love these videos!

The efforts of the individual benefits the many. An example of this is a TIKhistory video.

@TheImperatorKnight

11 ай бұрын

Thanks, although I'm not sure if that many are listening 😞

@ArgentWolf95

11 ай бұрын

@@TheImperatorKnight you're reaching more mate, and I use your videos as sources, I've managed to teach a few people the diffeences between the ideologies, and you are onto something strong with the Gnostic hypothesis. just wanna thank you for teaching me some stuff, and helping me teach others.

It seems all these Statist/Collectivist ideas assume their ideal State knows what's better for you than you do. Don't ask questions. Submit. Comply. Obey.

I'm not sure if calling Evola a fascist is apropriate. He was a complicated guy with views really alien to our modern sensibilieties. He initially was interested in fascism and national socialism but neither Mussolini nor Hitler live up to his standard. Both NSDAP and italian fascist party were too open to the people for his taste. Instead of purging themselves and forming an intellectual elite they allowed basicaly everyone in. What he envisioned was not a party political party but sort of neo-feudal warrior-priest class ruling over the plebs. Such social order in his view would not require a totalitarian state as it did in both germany and italy because a person cofined to a role of a peasant/craftsman/whatever would enjoy the certainty strict hierarchical order brings. It's also important to note that Evola was not a Hegelian. Dialectic assumes that there is an end point of history we should struggle (see what i did there lol) towards. Evola viewed history as an infinite series of degenerative cycles. You start at the highest point (spiritually speaking) and slowly go down the ladder until the civilisation collapses and on it's ashes arises new civilisation with its own golden age which will also degenerate collapse and start the cycle again and again and again. It's a completely different beast than whatever Gentile, Marx or whoever thought up.

@ZoranZoltanous

11 ай бұрын

Gentile also rejects end of history. He sees it as constantly in flux with no end or cycles.

@mk-tu3gv

11 ай бұрын

@@ZoranZoltanous That's interesting. Someone told me that Gentile was a Hegelian thinker and i just assumed it to be true. Seems that i got to go back to the books. Does "Origins and doctrine of fascism" reveal his views or should I read something else?

@ZoranZoltanous

11 ай бұрын

@@mk-tu3gv he’s definitely influenced by Hegel but he doesn’t agree with everything from Hegel. Origins and doctrine is more of an outline. If you’re going to understand him, I recommend the book thought, thinking, which basically summarizes his entire philosophy and has a bunch of his obscure essays inside of it.

I'd call Evola's ideas "neo-fascism" not simply "fascism."

@Web720

11 ай бұрын

Neo-Fascism is real, but Neo-Marxism isn't? Okay buddy.

Hi, TIK! I'm always impressed when you continue to go deeper into Fascism (and its related ideologies) and discuss different aspects of it. In this video you mentioned Christianity several times, and that makes me curious. Have you considered or would you consider making a video analyzing Pope Leo XIII's 1891 papal encyclical Rerum Novarum? It was published as a response to and critique of both Socialism and Capitalism, and I would be interested in your take on it. I know it's outside your normal field, but it's related so I figure it's at least worth a shot to ask. Keep up the good work, man!

@robertortiz-wilson1588

5 ай бұрын

This too would interest me! It would also require some Theological history reading for a proper analysis.

Being national socialism is not a duty, it's a pleasure.

Survival of the fittest within the "race" can just mean that the best within the race are having more children, thus keeping the "race" strong. So it's not necessarily a contradiction.

@nomdeguerre7265

11 ай бұрын

‘Best’ and ‘fittest’ aren’t at all the same thing. You’re putting the ‘cart before the horse’ by saying “the best…have more children”. Specimens are fittest because they produce more offspring. They’re not fit to reproduce, they’re fit because they reproduce.

I'm glad i waited till i had the time to sit through all of this. Well worth the wait. As for fasc-anon i dont see how it could possibly work in an official group setting. the amount of gatekeeping required would make it unworkable. Something like a self help workbook might work, where you answers a number of questions as journal prompts, and the, re-read what you've written to see if you believe it or if it makes sense.

The part about what is free market at 25:30-ish is something you REALLY need to make a video about. What I mean is do a glossary video. Even though I've been a long term viewer and have read (and in the process of reading) some really good economic books till now I couldn't put what free market is in such simple down to earth words.

This all, I think, provides a valuable backdrop to the political tensions of our day (2020's), as much of the ideological struggle of the first half of the 20th century seems to be repeating to some degree.

@sdrc92126

11 ай бұрын

From his first video on this subject: " since the 1800s the West has been dominated by three groups. There’s the Christian Churches, the intellectuals who believe in science, and then a third group of occultists. These three groups have all been fighting against each other, in spirit if not physically, and that these occultists are part of this ancient religion. " It makes perfect sense

@Michael-Archonaeus

11 ай бұрын

@@sdrc92126 That is nonsense. I am a Christian, and I am an intellectual, and I know people who are this and occultists too, so someone can be all three at the same time. Your categorization is false.

Socialism of duty sounds like a weird call of duty parody.

@markzuckergecko621

11 ай бұрын

What a terrible game, any time you start to get ahead with a bunch of cool stuff, you have to give it to weaker players who don't have as much cool stuff🤣

@militaristaustrian

11 ай бұрын

God that wuld be a great game if made like the soviet campaign of waw

@die1mayer

11 ай бұрын

@@markzuckergecko621 You have to share "cool stuff" with comrades. Everything for the Fatherland.

@malcolmfreeman7802

11 ай бұрын

what like the capitalist army ?

"People who believe in free markets do not believe in equality" that's not true at all. A free market is a market where the individuals participating within it are free, in order for them to be free, power most be put on the individuals to maintain their sovereignty. That power comes from natural rights, which are based on the idea that all humans are fundamentally equal in their individuality, that's equality. People aren't equal in their ability or their thought, but they are equal in their rights, the right to do anything that doesn't infringe on another's enjoyment of that same freedom. That's the equality that underpins Liberalism

@aussieglizzy6998

11 ай бұрын

Equality of oppurtunity, not outcome.

I have the day off AND TIK drops a 58 minute long video??? There is a god!

@TheImperatorKnight

11 ай бұрын

Well, I hope you enjoy it :)

In 1984 Orwell eloquently presents all the hellish ideologies of the 3 "hyperpowers" as pretty similar based on his observation of the USSR and Nazi Germany. Enough said...

Hey TIK, this isn’t really related to the video but I’ve recently heard the claim that Italian Fascism, although not being anti-semitic (like you’ve pointed out), was ‘highly racist’ towards Slavs and Africans in their colonies, so what is your take on this?

@TheImperatorKnight

11 ай бұрын

There's a difference between bog-standard racism and the ideology of Fascism or National Socialism. So I'm not denying that there was racism anywhere in Italy or the Italian armed forces or even in the Fascist Party. But I am saying that the _ideology_ of Italian Fascism only started to bring in racist elements around 1936-ish when Mussolini wanted to align with Hitler after being isolated on the diplomatic level thanks to the Ethiopian war. So while racism was a thing (in practically every country at the time) that doesn't necessarily mean that everybody was Fascist, and Fascism was racism. There is a distinction to be made. And I would also say that Italian Fascism was Nationalistic (not racist-nationalism, just old-fashioned nationalism), and their attacks upon the Ethiopians were driven by pro-Italian nationalism (which maybe had some racism latched onto it) rather than ideological racism. They were pro-Italian on nationalist grounds, not racist grounds (until the late 1930s at least). Another way to think about it: Britain conquered a quarter of the globe because of free trade and making money, not because they just wanted to enslave other people. If they just wanted slaves, why would they sail all the way to India first before conquering Africa? Why would they sail to North America, or Australia? That doesn't make sense, until you realise that they only did so because of economics. And yes, there was racism that accompanied the conquests, and obviously slavery at first (until Britain adopted classic liberalism and was the first empire in history to fight to free the slaves), however it wasn't ideological racism that drove the expansion of the British empire. It wasn't anything like National Socialism. Racism accompanied the expansion, but it didn't drive it. Same with Italian Fascism: racism accompanied the expansion, but didn't drive it. With National Socialism however, racism drove the expansion and everything else that came along with. So there is a distinction and if we don't recognise it, we'll come to the wrong conclusions, which would be dangerous because our view of the world will be distorted. The Left today don't make this distinction, lump everything together, and then come to stupid conclusions like Churchill being a fascist, despite the fact that for almost a year Churchill and the British were the only ones fighting Mussolini and Hitler. (And I'm not saying Churchill wasn't racist or a bad guy, I'm just pointing out that he wasn't Fascist - he locked up Oswald Mosley and many other Fascists in Britain.)

TIK. I appreciate what you have created. As a historian, it is great to see these topics being tackled. I have used these videos to help explain these ideologies to my kids. Keep up the good work.

Former natsoc here. 9:25 is spot on. Happy to say that TIK was one of the few to help me understand it for what it was.

I've not watched this yet, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess what it's going to basically say. "Serve the Hive. Serve the Colony. Serve the Hive."

@TheImperatorKnight

11 ай бұрын

Yes, but there's a bit more to it than that, e.g. the "Cosmic Order" and "ultimate Truth" concepts

@calumdeighton

11 ай бұрын

@@TheImperatorKnight Doesn't sound any different than the Uplifted in Galaxy's Edge series. (New Sci-Fi Opera thing I've been getting into lately.) The Savage Wars trilogy is really good for what I'm talking about, and you are talking about in this video. Great series overhaul. Worth getting into if you like fiction and Sci-fi.

@johnweatherby8718

11 ай бұрын

Take your place in the borg cube 3 of 5! :)

modern fascism. 'the earth is on fire' - Sadik Khan the planet is boiling. - the UN 😂😂😂

@Occident.

11 ай бұрын

Yeah that "the Planet is boiling" gives millions around the world a good laugh.😂😂😂 What a nut job statement.

@sillypuppy5940

11 ай бұрын

We're moving towards climatic conditions similar to those experienced during the Triassic and Jurassic eras, during which the dinosaurs were boiled alive for 165 million years. It's all happening next week, and "how dare you" for contradicting this holy truth - oops, sorry - I meant scientific truth.

@ivanthemadvandal8435

11 ай бұрын

​@@Occident. Sadly only millions out of 8 billion, more buy into it than don't.

@christophe9602

11 ай бұрын

Ah yes, the "migrants in charge of England" type of fascism. 🤡

@Boz196

11 ай бұрын

In the 1930's it was fascism which was the third position and in the 2030's it will be stakeholder capitalism as the third position.

I got into your videos due to the history content but at that time I was listening to more third position content I hadn't falling down the rabbit hole thankfully a distrust of any ideology that wants more unchecked centralized government kept me from going over that edge. Still, it was your videos that helped pull me back and see that the doubts I had were real.

Hello TIK, I've been wondering for quite some time now, was J.R.R. Tolkien and his writings (Silmarillion, LOTR, the Hobbit) (un-)consciously influenced by the third way, communism, fascism, nazism? Or are his writings something else? Thank you for your time. :)

@moritamikamikara3879

4 ай бұрын

I think it's likely they were in some way influenced by the same things as fascism, but it's not the same thing. My recommendation would be to have a look at the video on the subject by youtuber whatifalthis. Whatifalthist is nowhere near as professional and academic as TIK but then again, who is, but he does make some important and unmistakeable points. The writings of Tolkien is almost undeniably anti-industrial and to a certain extent aristocratic too. That puts him immediately at odds with the inherant anti-aristocratic ideologies of National Socialism and Marxism at the very least.

"Pride marched straight into the gulags". 😂

One element that seemed to get skimmed over was the hierarchy...IE "THE LEADER" or whoever that guides and uses the organic body for the greater purpose! So in simple terms everyone in society submits to "ME"

@sillypuppy5940

11 ай бұрын

From what the Austrian painter says in his book, he seems to be in favor of some sort of king-like figure. Sort of in charge but not, a member of the volk but also something to do with God. Makes no sense to me, but maybe it meant something to him.

@jamesbeeching6138

11 ай бұрын

@@sillypuppy5940 yes a tad messianic....

@elLooto

11 ай бұрын

@@sillypuppy5940 In western history the priests learned that you'll live longer if you stand beside the throne than sit upon it.

@sdrc92126

11 ай бұрын

A divine spark is somehow trapped in some (but not all) humans and it alone, of all that exists in this material world, is capable of redemption. --from 'The gist of what gnostics believe'

@jamesbeeching6138

11 ай бұрын

@@sdrc92126 so we are all "God"? ;)

I'd love to see a video on why corporations are not created by the free market

@anonymousAJ

11 ай бұрын

Limited liability Under a partnership or historical joint-stock company the partners or company directors are liable for the debts of the business to the limits of their personal fortune The corporate structure becomes a fictional entity that holds its own liability - the human beings involved are not held to ordinary common law liability Note this applies to both LLCs and normal corporations

@malcolmfreeman7802

11 ай бұрын

please explain why it doesnt ?

@BalenCM

11 ай бұрын

​@@anonymousAJvery interesting point

@imperiumgrim4717

6 ай бұрын

​@@anonymousAJinteresting 🤔

Great video Tik!👍

I think ”struggle“ is not a correct translation of *Kampf* . Or at least not always. Kampf also means fight and I think *Kampf* is meant way more actively, while struggle is more passively, so it is more like straucheln, where you can put a *Kampf* upon it to end the struggle. Like class struggle is not always meant to be *Klassenkampf* , it is a struggle and an active role played by politicians corrupted by greed and money that set up policies to put the conditions upon the lower classes which resultatively begin to struggle. With endeavour, they say - the bourgeoisie - you can climb the ladder and become one of them, and Anarchists claim that after their bloody revolution, everyone will be his own bourgeois. When Hitler mentions »größte Anstrengungen« in speeches, then a lot of people translate this to »great struggle«, but it actually means horrendous effort was put in. The English translations, especially the newer ones, are problematic. Edit: with *Kampf* is mostly meant to have a fight against other peoples, while *Beendigung des Klassenkampfes/Klassenhasses* means to end the fight within the own people (the Volk) when it comes to Nationalsocialism.

@laisphinto6372

11 ай бұрын

they water down what hitler actually said which is weird since hitler isnt one to beat around the bush and the choice of translating it like he is

@SchmulKrieger

11 ай бұрын

@@laisphinto6372 I would say they do because his speeches and texts were much more differentiated than pseudo-communists want to hear and they would hear that Hitler is leaning hard on communism. And it is even more strange that this watering down happens a lot in anglophone countries with translations.

@sdrc92126

11 ай бұрын

Trek?

@SchmulKrieger

11 ай бұрын

@@sdrc92126 what do you want to say?

@sdrc92126

11 ай бұрын

@@SchmulKrieger Just a thought. Trek could be a loose synonym of battle. Also _Star Trek_ is very gnostic

The problem is with this publication is it’s not very good and it’s mostly just propaganda. I would recommend checking out my introduction to corporatism I wrote instead. It’s far more concrete in it’s argumentation. The biggest issue with iron march publications is they try to avoid being bogged down to a position and really only appeal to the nation/state to justify complete total pragmatism which is just nonsense.

As a member of a trade union I’d love to hear your pros and cons of trade union builders and the effects we have on the economy.

You said it yourself. It was published by Ruzzian. To them everything is Fascism. In Soviet history books Third Reich is called Fascist Germany.

@militaristaustrian

11 ай бұрын

Its not far of. Nazism is seen as fascism in austrian books too so the russians are in the Main stream in this reguard

@TheImperatorKnight

11 ай бұрын

Many people in the west also conflate fascism and Nazism, so this isn't a Russian thing, it's actually a Communist/Socialist thing. The official Marxist position was that Nazism was a form of Fascism, and that Fascism was the end-stage of capitalism. Therefore, most people are completely clueless about this topic, which explains why even the fascists and National Socialists themselves are getting this wrong.

What is this "KZread channel that should not be named" TIK is talking about? I'm interested to see what they have, and if other channels have engaged them.

I hope you're able to one day put this whole gnosticism & national socialism topic together in book form. It would be one of the greatest academic resources on fascism and national socialism that anyone's ever put together. And it should be mandatory reading in public school, if we're going to keep clinging to those

@aleksazunjic9672

11 ай бұрын

Well, this would be forbidden because it would sway many to investigate further into these ideas.

--- AGAIN . . . thank you, for the exceptionally lucid presentation of the history of political religion.

Hi Tik, I really love your videos and wondered if you are ever going to make a video about Perón and Argentinian fascism (which is in power to this day), I have some bibliography about Perón if you'd like, he's really not the greatest human being by far...

Fascism and national socialism are distinct. Bundling them together means you do not understand either.

Liberalism and free markets are a religion too. In fact, every political ideology is.

One of the most tragic misunderstandings about economics that I notice from collectivists is that they assume there is a FINITE amount of wealth to go around. Wealth is CREATED, on the initiatives of individuals

I disagree on one thing. There can be individualism and collectivism at the same. Its just a matter of priorities and circumstances. if the threat is greater within a group then individualism is more prominent or if the threat is greater outside the group then collectivism is more prominent. but both are still present at the same time just at different levels.

Good video, sir.

That moment when a Fascist paper outlines its plans and they are the exact same as Klaus Schwab’s. He also wants to run capitalism and socialism through a dialectic but he makes a lot of mistakes. He is doing it with “state capitalism” and “shareholder capitalism” which he thinks will lead to the world of stakeholder capitalism, as he calls it. The problem is he thinks he’s doing a dialectic either with 2 types of capitalism or capitalism and socialism. In reality he’s doing a dialectic with 2 types of socialism, socialism on the level of nation states and none nation state socialism.

@TheImperatorKnight

11 ай бұрын

There are definitely a lot of parallels between Third Positionism and what many of the modern Marxists and Socialists are doing. Some have reluctantly realised that their economics is nonsense, so they're now trying to use "capitalism" to get to "socialism", which just results in Fascism. Of course, they don't call it that :)

@dankmemes7423

11 ай бұрын

Except schwab is anti white and pro J.

@christophe9602

11 ай бұрын

Here's the glaring flaw in your theory though. You know, finance-capitalists, people with billions of dollars of f*ck-you-money, they don't HAVE to listen to Klaus Schwab. They don't HAVE to do ESG-scores and propagate left-wing social ideology for no other reason than some WEF-clown in a weird suit tells them. They do it, because it's profitable to them and demoralizing people/nations gives them power. Blackrock, Vanguard, StateStreet, Fidelity, they're the ones on charge of WEF-stooges and the dialectic. Not the other way around. You don't get tranny Bud Light because Klaus Schwab said so. You don't get it because Klaus Schwab has so effectively propagandized the population into demanding it. You get it cause Larry Fink said so, and nobody is coercing him. The biggest prank these capitalists ever pulled on decent people was to make them believe international financiers somehow share their conservative values and bootstrapped their way up trough rugged individualism to owning billions of dollars.

@aleksazunjic9672

11 ай бұрын

There is no such thing as "pure capitalism" . Unbridled capitalism simply leads to monopolistic society, something we now have in US (controlled by certain ethnic group 😁) . Pure capitalism and free markets are simply fictions, just like classless society of communists.

@bobwisdom7749

11 ай бұрын

Are you using the word capitalism as private control of the means of production or corporatism

TIK You have to be on a watchlist :D Nice new video and topic. Gonna give it a watch during the shift today. Cheers!

@TheImperatorKnight

11 ай бұрын

I probably am, which is further proof that our tax money is being squandered!

My dream sitcom would be one about fascists written and directed by somebody who understands what fascism is, it would be hilarious.

Also the militaristic aspect your analysed at the end from the quotes, the irony of it is Trotsky had a similar idea.

This will be interesting. Let's see what modern fascism is like.

@militaristaustrian

11 ай бұрын

Wierd, its wierd as all fucking hell

@Dario-uj6qo

11 ай бұрын

You can see that in Argentina, or even in the spanish party Sumar

@ducthman4737

11 ай бұрын

Climate Alarmists

@varvarith3090

11 ай бұрын

We live in it.

@vinylrecord1102

11 ай бұрын

China and North Korea are probably the closest examples to actual fascism. Arab Ba'athism also shows similarities.

"We can't form megazord if we're in a conflict" See now if they just said that I'd be interested in their cult.

cats don’t fight dogs for reproductive rights but packs of dogs fight packs of dogs and troops of apes fight troops of apes. May god help the lone ape that wanders into the territory of a troop not his own.

out of context though, i ll be greatfull if you can tell me which accent you are using? please

@peterbailey4222

11 ай бұрын

Sounds like he's from in or around Liverpool in north west England. Not a strong liverpudlian accent but certainly there. Think John Lennon or Paul Hollywood as opposed to Steven Gerrard...

is he talking about keith woods?

@militarytheorist9674

11 ай бұрын

Thats what I was thinking, Keith is one of the biggest in the 3p sphere and has tens of thousands of subs

@useodyseeorbitchute9450

11 ай бұрын

@@militarytheorist9674 I even used to get him in my feed. LOL. I know why the algorithm picked that. I'd say that there is a split in those circles, as huge share giggles while talking spiritualism, while accepts awkward conclusions of theory of evolution...

@ZoranZoltanous

11 ай бұрын

I’ve been in some conversations with him and he has watched my channel so it’s probably referring to me.

@militarytheorist9674

11 ай бұрын

@@ZoranZoltanous funnily enough I also thought of you bro, I am subbed to you aswell lol.