“This is why graphics matter” *shows closeup of 2 girls in thongs throwing a guy around*

@redditdevilsadvocate.5134

5 жыл бұрын

What game was that

@Jawad7178

5 жыл бұрын

Oh my

@number1partyanthem

5 жыл бұрын

@@redditdevilsadvocate.5134 Street Fighter V

@jordanperez9834

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@tubblestop414

5 жыл бұрын

Leotards, not thongs.

I would say that graphics don't matter, but animation does.

@isaacgalewsky369

7 жыл бұрын

the two are inseperable. While you can make sprite animations look really cool and flavourful, it's impossible to convey the amount of information a modern fighting game wants to convey.

@Arkalidor

7 жыл бұрын

The two ARE separable... Under the name "graphics", I put textures, detailed models, which is an entirely different matter than the number of frames per second. Now, of course, there's the matter of graphical power, how many calculations does the engine need to make to create each frame. And that is precisely what I'm getting at: the lower the detail on each frame, the lesser calculations are needed, and in turn, the more frames a specific engine with finite capabilities can render on the go, making the animation that much smoother.

@isaacgalewsky369

7 жыл бұрын

let me clarify, in fighting games it's not "just as good" to have an excellent aesthetics with sub-par graphics as the visuals need to convey more information than in other games. also the information i mentioned in my last comment isn't displayed by the number of frames per second, but by shading and slight model turns to indicate precise position.

@Arkalidor

7 жыл бұрын

Hmmm okay, I see what you mean. I tend to think that it's still a matter of animation rather than graphics, but I get that without a certain level of detail, the animation is just not visible, and thus does not convey the necessary information. Fair point.

@C4DNerd

7 жыл бұрын

+thesatanic6: Sorry, but no, graphics do matter in that case because if the animation is stiff or awkward, the game will feel like it's stiff or awkward to play. Have you ever played an MMO with slower animations (like GW2 for example) and then play an action-based JRPG with quicker animations like a Kingdom Hearts? The biggest difference in how one feels more sluggish than the other boils down to visuals and animation. By your logic of "graphics don't matter only the pure gameplay does," you're saying that you could have a complex working fighting game with just two cubes. I'm sorry, but you can't.

People saying that KOF XIV looks like a PS2 game have obviously never played a PS2 game before.

@JoNassRasierer

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's worse than that.

@boiboi1956

4 жыл бұрын

Have you seen MGS2

@kefkapalazzo1

4 жыл бұрын

I mean tbh some ps2 games look pretty good today because of the art direction

@jesuszamora6949

4 жыл бұрын

For real. Anyone saying dumb shit like that never saw Maximum Impact.

@joaquinperez9382

4 жыл бұрын

@@kefkapalazzo1 Gran turismo 4 looks good even today, or maybe dont I havent played it for some time now

"I think graphics and gameplay are inseparable" I used to have the philosophy that graphics meant literally nothing. After designing a few games, I very quickly learned that's not the case. Though, any art style can work. It's the visual feedback and animation that matters.

@LeonesAce

3 жыл бұрын

@RagingThunder graphics it's not just the shader, you're confusing things here, the animations, art, models, UI, Everything that's visual is 'graphics'.

@dj_koen1265

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@jonnysac77

3 жыл бұрын

@@LeonesAce when you word it like that, in pretty much every game graphics is just as important as important as gameplay(unless it's a text adventure), I usually prefer to use terms like "aesthetic and art design" because there are games with high graphically fidelity that I think look like shit, Mortal Kombat X and Injustice 2 look great graphically but there attack animations are awful and then you have games like KOF14 which look kinda bad in terms of graphical fidelity but I think it's much more appeal because of how good most of the animations and designs look, so it would sound weird if I said something like "MKX has bad graphics and KOF14 has good graphics"

@seanmyster6

3 жыл бұрын

The idea that "graphics don't matter" is primarily a knee-jerk response to graphics-whores who think that Animal Crossing: New Horizons looks like shit for not having a photorealistic art style like The Last of Us Part II.

@onewingedren2228

3 жыл бұрын

@@seanmyster6 or when someone says that Botw is ugly because don't look like Read Dead Redemption 2

*"The FGC blew up over how bad it's outdated PS2 style graphics were"* From what I understand though, the FGC blows up over pretty much anything?

@alexanderpape7024

7 жыл бұрын

They overreact to everything.

@deadeyefgc

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, we do.

@StellaEFZ

5 жыл бұрын

I miss when we went crazy by how beautiful the NEO GEO *is*

@akanshchowdhary1356

5 жыл бұрын

Did they by smash ultimate

@mannythelazyguy6529

5 жыл бұрын

Yep

SF3 feels like you're playing a piece of art, it's great.

@adameves5970

5 жыл бұрын

Too cartoony.

@hrgrhrhhr

5 жыл бұрын

(Sad Blazblue noises)

@blueicydasani4543

5 жыл бұрын

@@adameves5970 its called being 2D bud. Have u ever played a game made before 2000?

@8bit_pineapple

4 жыл бұрын

​@@blueicydasani4543 Is Mortal Kombat 3 "cartoony" ? How about Diablo 2?

@blueicydasani4543

4 жыл бұрын

@@8bit_pineapple i don't like using "cartoony" for a video game. Thats how most games were

"There's more to graphics than I ever have them credit for" *Shows R. Mika's atomic peach*

I love the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure arcade game's graphics.

@user-wl1yt4mu7t

3 жыл бұрын

Stuff like the faces that appear when you get KO'd by a super really make the game's graphics special.

@themasterblaze7563

3 жыл бұрын

Are we talking HftF, ASB, or EoH?

@phrogberto

3 жыл бұрын

@@themasterblaze7563 I think hftf

@themasterblaze7563

3 жыл бұрын

@@phrogberto Cool. That's the best one imo.

@jestfullgremblim8002

3 жыл бұрын

@@themasterblaze7563 it's about hftf, he said "arcade"

KOFXIII has the most beautiful sprite graphics of any game I've ever seen. The way they animate is amazing, and it saddens me greatly that they gave all that up for the sake of 3D graphics in KOFXIV.

@mrdzentertainment1062

8 жыл бұрын

+Mads-Emil Jensen semi agreed... it's not bad they went to models for XIV... the quality on the other hand...

@xLithiumFlower1

8 жыл бұрын

Well yeah, 2D graphics like XIII are pretty expensive and there was no way they could afford that again. 3D is much cheaper fortunately, it would have looked better had they added a style to it to try and resemble 2D (like XRD or that chinese fighter with Terry and Benimaru as guest characters, it's models but they resemble 2D sprites with their shading and frame movements)

@cius2112

8 жыл бұрын

+Berry Box Not a real big thinker there are ya? Let me explain this to you. Ok so you know how they had been using the same sprites for like a decade and a half right? And they pretty much just created all new sprites? Now mind you think about what I said before. They had been using those previous sprites for along time. Making adjustments here and there add a character here and there, right? Why? They are already created you don't need to spend money to create them again. All you would need is to make some adjustments here and there and add some new characters. Trust me that is a lot cheaper than creating that many totally new 3D models. Now this is the part where you learn the truth. The big suits upstairs have decided that 2D is the past and the game should be 3D to appeal to mass audiences. These big suits have no experience in the gaming industry and have given SNK a pathetic budget in order to create a 3D fighter from scratch. And that's why it looks like shit.

@xLithiumFlower1

8 жыл бұрын

It was made 3D because of the new team (younger team which has experience in models and not sprites) and director working on it and again. They're aiming for 50 characters, there's no way reusing sprites was going to work for a goal like that, that'd be severely awful for them and they'd be limiting themselves badly from such a decision. They're bringing back a lot of old characters and a lot of new ones, there's no way in hell they can afford to make sheets for so many characters given the cost, time, and experience needed for them. Let's also mention new stages for the games (old games barely reused assets) and that makes it a lot more work you have to do, don't think reusing shit is going to cut it there either. If the gameplay is good and works out better for the team then I'm all for it, I'd love 2D sprites but I know they can't really afford to do that anymore, you have no idea how much time goes into making a single set for a character, not to mention color separation and EX versions.

@ralx225b

8 жыл бұрын

+Berry Box Sprites are reused all the time in 2D fighters. Pass_the_M was right on the money on what he said.

Probably Guilty Gear Xrd. That game is a damn spectacle.

@MyNameJefff

7 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad that I've found people of my kind. Most people say "UUHH STREET FIGHTER IS BEST BECAUSE IT HAS CAMMY" but I say gtfo with that shit fam, Guilty Gear has Millia and I-no

@Rockymann27

7 жыл бұрын

Revelator was better.

@MyNameJefff

7 жыл бұрын

Rockymann27 um Revelator and Sign are both from the XRD series. Revelator is only an updated version of Sign but you're right. It is a million times better.

@Rockymann27

7 жыл бұрын

Samurai Donkey I know they are. If i know what revelator is, it should be common sense that i know of sign. Just meant it improves so much onto it, that its almost a new game.

@RRRRRRRRR33

7 жыл бұрын

Easily the best looking fighting game in the market. Arguably the best ever. But if you play Guilty Gear XX on a emulator, like the Dolphin for example, with the XBRZ filter applied... Man, it's unreal

Really weird how the games that look bad (KOF14 and MvC: Infinite) play the best. It's a real shame. I bet if the games looked better, more people would play them. Since their graphics are the only real flaw.

@doofusmcgee1715

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I played MvCI and loved it

@Rad-Dude63andathird

3 жыл бұрын

There's far more reasons I dislike MvCI than just how it looks.

@youssefsamy9448

3 жыл бұрын

Oh underdawg hi ^-^

@AlphaZeroX96

3 жыл бұрын

No. They shouldn't matter.

@sebastianswan7975

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, KOF 13 looks great and plays well

I mean just look at FighterZ the graphics alone made it blow up

@Ryamix

5 жыл бұрын

It's also a very easy game to get into. The bread and butter teaches you the very basics as you progress through tweaks, meter control, opening people up, defense, #TheGlorious2H, and #TheAccursedDragonRush. Very fun game. 10/10, would spend 600+ Hours again

@automaticmonkTV

5 жыл бұрын

Just picked up Fighterz so I can learn FGs with characters I actually know and love; Then I can transfer those skills and play other fighters I hope!

@TheCosmicUprise

4 жыл бұрын

9

@titus17

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ryamix yeah but the game broke the record for most sales on day 1 for any fighting game. meaning hardly anyone knew it was piss easy to play yet. the sales mostly came from it being a dbz team fighter that looks amazing not the actually gameplay reviews

@Ryamix

4 жыл бұрын

@@titus17 you forget the praises it got in beta but you make a very good point. Hardly anyone would've known that

Skullgirls and Guilty Gear XRD both look astonishing. I also have a soft spot for good ol' Street Fighter 2, but who doesn't?

@Ai-fj1dc

6 жыл бұрын

masterplusmargarita I know people who dislike SF2's graphics

@oinkoink1909

5 жыл бұрын

I literally play Skullgirls for graphics alone

@Vulcanfaux

4 жыл бұрын

Street fighter is the only fighting game I refuse to play. Havent played a single game in that franchise. Not even street fighter X tekken. And tekken is my favorite fighting game series. But I have no issues playing any of the capcom vs. Games. MvC3 and snkVcapcom are pretty fun. Heck I have a snes classic. Still havent touched street fighter.

@1Robkip

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ai-fj1dc? Oh my god it is Ai from Tetris! Bruh how Tee doing?

@biggestbungus1295

4 жыл бұрын

@@Vulcanfaux why tho

Pretty much every ArcSys game is phenomenal graphically

@indiangamingfactshistory4642

2 жыл бұрын

Yes they using 2.5D graphics

This is why I play SFIII. The art and animation gives everything so much personality it just draws you in. Every SF game since then has looked like robots fighting each other.

@ActionCow69

2 жыл бұрын

Between the art and ost, SF3 just fucking oozes style. Almost makes me want to play it again but that game was way too hard for me.

@GrammerPancreas

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, graphics do matter. I just think SF3 has better graphics in this instance. Smooth 2D animation is just sublime. Thankfully the gaming world has seemed to have lost its 'everything must be 3D' hardon and we're starting to see 2D games return.

graphics are definitely important when it comes to readability and things like knowing where you are on the screen, but I’d say animation factors in more. Not only can it make moves feel insanely more impactful, if the animation is done well each move will look unique, which will make them more memorable it also just looks nice lol

Art direction > Graphics

@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa

6 жыл бұрын

Art Direction = Graphics Art Direction > Detailed Graphics

@briangrosenbach

5 жыл бұрын

I feel like games like Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild is a good example of that, cause the art in that game is beautiful

@adameves5970

5 жыл бұрын

@@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa Art Direction = Graphic Style, not Graphic Quality. That's why SF3 looks like shit. The style is awful.

@hrgrhrhhr

5 жыл бұрын

Adam Eves fucking nuclear take right here

@jesuszamora6949

4 жыл бұрын

@@adameves5970 Boy, sit your ass down. Street Fighter III was beautiful, and very striking.

marvel vs capcom style graphics are my style. i like that old cartoonish look. it's like fighting in a comic book.

@JohnSmith-co1zv

8 жыл бұрын

+GamerMikko To me 3D elements and 2d sprites blend really well.

@JohnSmith-co1zv

8 жыл бұрын

GamerMikko​ Lol I thought you were talking about Capcom vs Snk at first, I feel stupid. I honestly havent seen so much footage of MvC2

@sheercold26

8 жыл бұрын

+GamerMikko agreed. I hated 2's backgrounds

@YouSoSpice

8 жыл бұрын

Except that one time when they turned into 3D celshaded turds

@electricant55

8 жыл бұрын

+Albert Wesker I can't look at it, the colors are like those shitty Marvel comic books from 90's. Not only the characters, but the UI as well. Also you can't see shit on the screen due to all the explosions

"We need graphics in games, otherwise we can't see" ~MauLer

@automaticmonkTV

5 жыл бұрын

I love Mauler!

@AuroraDashPteriforever

5 жыл бұрын

@@automaticmonkTV Hell yeah! :D

@FraserSouris

4 жыл бұрын

Aurora Dash “A broken clock is right twice a day”

@Alienrun

3 жыл бұрын

Is that actually a quote by him? lol that's funny! I have to wonder what the context was/how sarcastic he was being!

@Sheevlord

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alienrun I don't remember which video it was from, but if I'm not mistaken he was responding to the sentiment that graphics don't matter.

2D Marvel vs graphics are my absolute favorite. Every game from Street Fighter vs X-Men on really felt like watching animated comics. And MvC 2 was the ultimate form of that.

@rawman44

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not a fighting game person at all, but I played MvC2 with my friend a long time ago and I was just amazed at how beautiful the game looked. Fighting games have some of the best 2d graphics I've ever seen, and I would attribute that to them needing to convey a lot of information to the player.

@tigrisrgn4062

2 жыл бұрын

stages were absolute garbage, characters looked out of place inside them

@noir269

2 жыл бұрын

The graphics in MVC2 are good but the actual sprites and animation are nowhere as detailed as SF3's

@mayonnnnnaise

2 жыл бұрын

@@noir269 Yeah, but you were playing just the biggest buttload of marvel characters

@noir269

2 жыл бұрын

@@mayonnnnnaise the first couple of marvel vs games reused a lot of assets

I really just wanted another KOF that used Sprites. I always considered SNK the King of Sprites.

@josephkerr7820

8 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@raptecclawtooth9046

8 жыл бұрын

+Kirin 1 Metal slug for the win!!!

@MrMarowak

8 жыл бұрын

+Kirin 1 don't you mean the King of Spriters? i'll leave...

@matheuscrazyk2

8 жыл бұрын

+Kirin 1 Sprites are expensive and hard to produce. As you may know, SNKP is trying, yes, trying to come back to the top, and they had absolutely no money to make a new game. They sold 81,25% of the company last year, and Sony is acutally funding the game (that also explains why KOF XIV is an Playstation exclusive). They dont have much money to work with, then they decided to make a 3D game, becuase its easier and cheaper to work with. Thats why this new game looks like that. If you want good looking graphics, you should wait for KOF XV.

@theARDISAN

7 жыл бұрын

Wasn't there a bad 3D Metal Slug game?

Holy shit my KOF reaction is in this vid LMAO!

@CoreAGaming

8 жыл бұрын

+Ignant Rizzy It was priceless lol.

@IgnantRizzyVods

8 жыл бұрын

+Core-A Gaming haha thanks!

@MasterBoris86XGaming

8 жыл бұрын

+Ignant Rizzy give it time dawg. LOL

@sfcspectacular

8 жыл бұрын

+Ignant Rizzy nice!!!

@scrubby2

8 жыл бұрын

+Ignant Rizzy LOL so glad it isn't a deja vu. i thought i saw that post else there too.....

Street Fighter III: Third Strike remains as my favorite fighter thus far.

@echelon1014

3 жыл бұрын

Tekken 3

@engliships2126

3 жыл бұрын

NRS games get a lot of flack for bad animation, but i think injustice 2 looks great, but it might just be me

@djangomatador9442

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, morgan

Honestly, out of every fighting game, I think that Super Smash Bros has some of the best animations (at least the newest games). They balance out gameplay with character origins, move function, and a lot of other stuff, it’s really cool.

@LucDaMan4

2 жыл бұрын

For me its kinda hard to say. When I think about animations I usually think about the coolest move a character has (their super) and I kinda feel like final smashes lack a lot of impact compared to other fighting games. I agree that they're above average, but I feel like they don't really compare to any arcsys game or 2D games like 3rd strike

@George-gg4pb

Жыл бұрын

@@LucDaMan4 kinda overrating

@tmntlorefan7518

Жыл бұрын

I personally think the older Smash games have the best animations, 64 and Melee you can really feel the punches, it started to feel flat when Brawl came out.

@ghhn4505

Жыл бұрын

@@tmntlorefan7518 64 easily has the best sound design which helps make the punches feel really weighty

Guilty Gear Xrd pretty much makes me wish Blazblue having that appeal.

@FlawedIntellect

8 жыл бұрын

+Fresh 2D Toucher Buddies Well, I heard that for BlazBlue, ASW uses 3D models as a base for frame poses and then goes on to do the shading, which is part of the experimentation they did to accomplish cel shading. Who knows? Maybe a future BlazBlue title might make the 3D jump too.

@meteordmsyu6298

8 жыл бұрын

GG was made in full-3D because they don't want to compete with their own franchise, it was stated during that longass conference. BB is going to stay 2D to keep that distinction.

@0rderSol

8 жыл бұрын

+MeteorD Msyu Funny since Competition between BB and GG is basically war in the community.

@meteordmsyu6298

8 жыл бұрын

KaZ Neosis Like they give a shit, it only happens in the west because it's the only place where people genuinely bitch about characters being "too cute" or "too anime" in an anime fighter.

@voidshadow

8 жыл бұрын

+MeteorD Msyu You get that in Japan too, remember the bullshit SF5 got by making Cammy look "too western"? Wasn't the first time either

KoF XIII looks incredible but I think Skullgirls is my favourite, purely based on how much character and flair they put into every single attack. For clarity purposes it's probably not the GREATEST but from an artistic standpoint I think it's gorgeous

@screweduptx512

4 жыл бұрын

I think you mean because of the *jiggle physics*

The only way I could complain about graphics is when they straight up don't give the proper information about what's happening

Look at KOF 14 graphics now. They look gorgeous

@ArpeggioPegasusMusic

3 жыл бұрын

They're heh In some places they look decent but mostly characters look like they're made out of plastic.

Garou - Mark of the Wolves It got some of the best flowing 2D Animations

@faithssb

3 жыл бұрын

Somehow this video is just now being recommended to me, and I’m just now (five years later) seeing your comment, but as a gamer who also cares about graphics since I am an artist, I have to say: Garou’s graphics are quite nice, honestly! I’ve recently fallen in love with Garou. I hadn’t played a traditional fighting game before it, but now I love it so much that I’ve even added it to my stream schedule and play it on Fightcade with a friend every week. The game’s animations definitely flow very nicely and are very clean. Even the voice acting is surprisingly good. The reason I say surprisingly is because Terry in every other King of Fighters and Fatal Fury game sounds worse in my opinion than Garou Terry. Sure, Garou Terry can sound a little drunk sometimes, but Terry’s lines in other games other than KoF14 (and funnily enough, Smash Bros) sound too over-exaggerated or forced and like they tried too hard.

@captainmega6310

3 жыл бұрын

@@faithssb that's a very interesting opinion because LOTS of KOF vets will say Terry's voice FF and KOF are more natural sounding then In KoF14(and Smash lol)

Street Fighter III: 2nd Impact has a widescreen mode on the arcade version, however I doubt many arcades at the time were able to actually utilize it. Try finding an affordable big widescreen CRT during 1997 that'll fit into an arcade cabinet. I imagine that wasn't easy nor practical

KOF 13 looks INSANE, it easily has the best sprites I've seen in a videogame

Skullgirls is probably my favorite graphically speaking. But the Samsho games have probably left the biggest impact on me in terms of graphics in fighting games.

For me Street Fighter 3 New generation and 2nd Impact are my favorite fighting games when it comes to ART and SOUND. I know everyone loves 3rd strike but the sounds in NG and 2I are amazing. Everything from the announcer to the sound effects and voice actors. The artwork is great too reminds me of SF2 World Warriors promo art. Also X-Men COTA and Street Fighter Alpha 2 are great for visuals and sound.

@Toomnyusernae

8 жыл бұрын

+Sick Case Check out Warzard / Red Earth. One of the last crazy detailed games Capcom let out.

@portalsofmadnes

8 жыл бұрын

+Sick Case Agreed.

@iloveediblestuff

8 жыл бұрын

+Sick Case NG and 2I's voices always felt unnatural to me even though I played them before 3S.

@Toomnyusernae

8 жыл бұрын

In retrospect it's rather impressive they did a huge stage overhaul from SFIII to Third Strike. A shame all those other characters in the background related to characters will be forgotten. Ibuki had so much more potential than her personality in SFIV. All the varied Illuminati masks were cool too. Think about it. Gill has had 3 stages now. Pretty stellar thus far for invoking detail and stacking onto the mythos of the series.

@Numinor31

8 жыл бұрын

+Sick Case + sean had that awesome double-hit dragon punch! :D they fucked that up in 3rd strike too

Blazblue is so fucking beautiful. The vivid, dynamic backgrounds and the sprites are just eye candy. I hope BB and GG never go 3D!

@Skeleton-chan

8 жыл бұрын

+el_Principe uhhhh Guilty Gear already did go 3D. And it's the best looking fighting game of the last decade.

@servantofcygnus

8 жыл бұрын

+Skeleton-chan Most people miss that it's 3D models rendered in 2D, like Smash's Game and Watch, but better executed

@Bosquez88

8 жыл бұрын

GG XRD do use 3D models.

I personally love the artstyle of Skullgirls.

Good animations are important in fighting games so the player can easily understand what a move does and how it works just by looking at it and without looking up framedata and guides

The best fighting game graphics I have seen have to be from Skullgirls.

@brian78721

7 жыл бұрын

Draconian Alchemist yeyeyeye

@Rockymann27

7 жыл бұрын

No.....no its not.

@brian78721

7 жыл бұрын

Rockymann27 yeyeyeye

@theARDISAN

7 жыл бұрын

I agree for 2D sprites (not pixel sprited), but for pixel sprites I would say KOFXIII despite me not liking most of the character designs.

@MiloTheMightyDude

7 жыл бұрын

Rockymann27 that was just my opinion though

Guilty Gear Xrd is the best fighting game currently. Both gameplay and graphics are excellent. Disappointed you didn't mention it.

@FlawedIntellect

8 жыл бұрын

+Kempes SFA Agreed.

@evicteetori8738

8 жыл бұрын

agreed. it does combos the best imo. still fun to watch and fun to play. everyone wins

@alexbomb3204

8 жыл бұрын

gameplay is not competitive...but still fun

@president.z2566

8 жыл бұрын

+axel valerian what?

@cpt.tupperware

8 жыл бұрын

+axel valerian Sure buddy

I don't see what's wrong with KOF XIII's graphics. They look fine to me.

@manzanito3652

5 жыл бұрын

They were too expensive and SNK almost went bankrupt. That's why they use 3D models in XIV

@jesuszamora6949

4 жыл бұрын

KOF XIV was the one people hated, mainly because it wasn't KOFXIII.

@joescannoli7660

4 жыл бұрын

Jesus Zamora which is weird that people now are praising kof XIII all of the sudden when on release it had horrible sale numbers, had everyone back then gave their support for the game like they do now kof XIV might have also been sprite based.

@ArpeggioPegasusMusic

3 жыл бұрын

@@joescannoli7660 exactly. KOF XIII looked absolutely stunning but nobody supported this game. Probably because KOF XII was a huge critical failure, so XIII didn't sell well either despite being a fantastic game.

I love 3rd Strike. The details are great, they convey emotions, and Yun looks drop dead cool. Lookin' to see if I can get a more modern game tho.

Guilty Gear XRD is the best graphically

@gasa6406

7 жыл бұрын

I think so too. I was really impressed about how they made a 3d fighting game so detailed and fluid.

@19HajimeSaitou91

7 жыл бұрын

no

@AhmadHassan-eb2pl

7 жыл бұрын

tekken 7 is

@viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476

6 жыл бұрын

Well it’s hard to match the perfect lines that computers can animate as opposed to people

@Kurumisama

6 жыл бұрын

It is, the mix up between polygons and cell shading sprites is superb quality and the gameplay is so awesome

I can't see why people were complaining about the KOF XIV graphics, those look gorgeous to me. And sorry, but even after this, I'm not convinced, it seems you only proved how much better it makes it look, not how it improves the way it plays.

@fl21id

8 жыл бұрын

+Teenkitsune There's a saying, you can make the game look all pretty and flashy, it still plays like shit.

@teenkitsune

8 жыл бұрын

fl21id Never saw the shit gameplay either.

@fl21id

8 жыл бұрын

I heard KOF XIV plays like XIII so that's a big positive. I don't really care about the graphics as long as the game plays good. Quality over quantity is the lesson here, seems like people don't even care about that.

@teenkitsune

8 жыл бұрын

+fl21id It's true, everyone forgets about the game itself as soon as they see the graphics. I remember a time when the game itself was what mattered most, graphics were just something to appreciate.

@99superjesus

8 жыл бұрын

+Teenkitsune you didn't watch the video or you failed to comprehend his points

In my opinion KOF 14 graphics aren't that bad!

@reku1emu

4 жыл бұрын

kof 13 is better

@yurionedge2199

2 жыл бұрын

@Epic Mage Which it is.

@yurionedge2199

2 жыл бұрын

@Epic Mage You used past tense.

Love the ink style used in Street Fighter 4. and of course, Skullgirls has amazing graphics.

I'd love it if Street Fighter returned to drawn sprites, I love Persona 4: Arena, BlazBlue: Central Friction, and Skull Girls for that very reason.

@adameves5970

5 жыл бұрын

Same. Nothing beat the SF2 art style. It was all down hill since SF3 came out. Should have just kept remaking SF2 expansions. It had the perfect art style and should have just used that template forever.

@Akay4444444444444444

4 жыл бұрын

Or at least pay homage to 2D animation better. Just look at how Guilty Gear's 3D installments purposefully emulate 2D sprite animation with smear frames and shit, it's amazing.

@cloud2537

4 жыл бұрын

@@adameves5970 See, I think the SF3 style was amazing smooth hand drawn animations.

@cloud2537

4 жыл бұрын

@@Akay4444444444444444 I would love Ghibli style fighting game.

@Rad-Dude63andathird

3 жыл бұрын

@@adameves5970 SF3 has my favorite artstyle of the series to be honest.

Tatsunoko vs Capcom is an underrated classic.

@shawklan27

7 жыл бұрын

Marcus Dupree Jones TRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUU

@chancepaladin

6 жыл бұрын

One of my all time favorite games, top 5, easily.

@mr.hippopotamus1792

5 жыл бұрын

Yup

@BluuDemon

5 жыл бұрын

Markdeejay FACTSSSSSSS

This is my introduction to your channel and, I gotta say, I'm invested. You got yourself a new subscriber

Third Strike has the most smooth and fancy sprite animations of any SF game...which makes for a great gameplay because it's a sheer pleasure to strike a good combo, and see how everything just fits great

pokken looks so clean omg

@stygandrinvictus7814

4 жыл бұрын

Right?!

I like Tekken's graphics.

@bboymox464

6 жыл бұрын

rip lei in t7

@mace6999

5 жыл бұрын

@@bboymox464 Say what?

@bboymox464

5 жыл бұрын

Mace hhhhh never mind he's back lol

@davideman3938

5 жыл бұрын

That's one of the Reasons why I wasn't a fan of SFV. They tried to knockoff Tekken (Hit Block Reactions) without actually understanding what the Tekken Series did to make that work. Overhauling most of the charater's Move-sets definitely doesn't help. EX is still The Best in 3D Street Fighting.

@personaphantom5543

4 жыл бұрын

Tekken games almost always age badly yeah Tekken 7 looks good but Tekken 6 looks like shit even for the time. Tekken is fantastic for the gameplay.

LOL - great video man. Obviously put a lot into it, and I enjoyed the funny visual puns in the beginning that was tied to your dialogue.

melty blood and dbfz graphics literally great

I think the mid 360/PS3 era of graphics really impressed me. From MVC3's cel shaded style, to Tekken 6's high detail models, BB's sprite work, and DOA5's amazing visual presentation. Obviously in current gen it's even better, but i think it was back then when I really noticed that fighting games had reached the next level in terms of visuals, as it were. Nowadays, fighting games are as impressive to look at as much as play, which is a big deal for spectators who see what's going on and understand it more.

Dead Or Alive 5: Last Round's graphics takes it for me. The amount of detail on the characters and the stages are great! The stage transitions and power blow specials that interact with the stages, add a lot of depths into the graphics. Debris, cans, and even coconuts falling from a tree to bonk your head. It's amazing.

Dead or Alive 3 is one game I truly admire graphically. It blew my mind, when I first saw it in 2001. It still holds up well to this day.

I love Guilty Gear Xrd, too. It had style, beauty and really helps to give dept into the characters. Besides, i am a huge fan of 2D graphics and GGxrd cell shading emulates it so well.

I really like Tekken Tag 2 or Tekken 7 FR's graphics, I like how it mixes realistic and cartoon and so you get realistic looking characters that also look pretty and can still have over the top designs

I usually prefer 2D sprite based fighting games, my favourite being Street Fighter Alpha 3. But when I saw Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 I realised what 3D graphics in fighting games could be and that became my favourite.

I like the 2-D animation. MvC2 looks great even though its been around for a while.

0:51 i wonder what made him change his mind 🤔

For some reason this channel reminds me of Every Frame A Painting.

@Eaglicious

8 жыл бұрын

+BlackMasamune X I noticed it too. It's an in-depth video essay with a chill voice over.

@jesseb.2128

8 жыл бұрын

+BlackMasamune X For a second I thought it WAS the same guy!

I feel like in 5 minutes of discussion, you only made one (weak?) point about the value of having one animation for a successful attack versus a miss. I expected you would talk about contrasting important gameplay elements against aesthetic (especially background) elements as in games like Contra (NES) where bullets rapidly change their color to "glimmer" and stand out against a busy background, or compare games like Call of Duty and Team Fortress - where the former blends important elements into the background to make a muddy mess that emphasizes pretty pictures over gameplay and the latter reserves specific colors (saturated blues and reds) for gameplay elements like players and capturable points so that they never blend into the scenery. Make another vid like this one! :) If you got 250k+ hits for this, imagine what you could accomplish with strong points.

@majinbros9971

6 жыл бұрын

Big Scary Games Team fortress as in team fortress 2, classic or the mod

@majinbros9971

5 жыл бұрын

@@antelmotrevizo5840 Highly disagrree then

Arc System Works style of FG’s are my favorite thing ever. It’s literally orgasmic.

I really like skullgirls, in terms of graphics and gameplay. But I also adore 3D cel shaded stuff like GG XRD or Dragon Ball Fighterz.

Speaking of SF3, games with their own "SF3" production also got me hooked and I am very strong fans of it. Garou: Mark of the Wolves was the pinnacle of the Garou/Fatal Fury series. It had beautiful sprites and animation that expressed all the characters. From veteran older Terry Bogard, to younger upstart Rock Howard, the waifish small Hotaru Futaba, The stern bruising Gato and even the lively B. Jenet. They all stick out very well. martial masters also was a very fluidly animated game. Very nice to look at in action.

"Skullgirls" has my favourite artstyle, followed by "Third-Strike" and "Marvel V Street Fighter".

DBFZ has my favourite graphics. It’s amazing how arc system works recreated the anime art style

KOF 13 looked and played like a well researched peer reviewed scholarly article. My personal favorite Versus games like Capcom vs SNK 2 is beyond a shadow of a doubt the way versus games should be. Characters, different meters, backgrounds and the sheer fun it produces. You can’t go wrong at all with that game

•Guilty Gear and BlazBlue have awesome spirte work and graphic design in general. •I actually like SFV's graphics, it looks kinda fancy. •Soulcalibur III was the most beautiful Soulcalibur game before they moved to next gen, specially the stages. Check out Eurydice Shrine, or my personal favorite, Lost Cathedral. They're beautiful as hell. •Soulcalibur IV gave us gloomy graphics and that's why I like them. The animations are also way better than SCIII's (those looked quite ankward, if you ask me). •Tekken, in the other hand, has semi-realistic and attractive graphics. •Dead or Alive always looked great and ahead of its time, honestly. Look at Dead or Alive 2, it aged incredibly. •Under Night In-Birth Exe:Late looks cool too. I like that, ejem, "night" feel it has... I dunno how to explain myself.

@themage1016

5 жыл бұрын

Seychermanium eheheh 2 years later and heres you comment.😂😂 would like to add that New GG uses 3D models not 2D spritez

I actually prefer 2D sprite fighters when it comes to graphics. good stuff

@theARDISAN

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I feel that when Street Fighter went 3D it lost most of its animation charm as well as color; going into realism for the heck of it.

Hey, I'm one of those guys who, upon finding such a cool channel cannot believe how he didn't spot it earlier. I'm seriously impressed by the sheer amount of insight you provide in your videos. Fantastic job! Even though I grew up playing fighting games, especially SF and MK back in the 90's all the way to mid 00's, I cannot remember when was the last time I have played any of it, but in terms of visual features, I agree with you, SF3 is my favorite as well. The point I wanted to share here, and I hope I won't sound dubious, is next: beautiful graphics is more important than the high-end graphics. For example, comic book style, cartoony graphics can be much more appealing and can be hell of a lot more atmospheric and vivid than real life photo-realistic based graphics with ultra sharp details and realistic visual representation, because it offers more room for exaggeration, which is a major artistic element, hence it can conjure up things more expressively and most definitely make our imagination running wild. Cheers!

God, there isn't a single bad Core-A video. Top tier shit my dude.

Why does no one talk about virtua fighter 5 anymore?

@jigglypufforninjas7290

7 жыл бұрын

MrTheBroMoe it sucks pfft duh

@joseurbina3835

4 жыл бұрын

3 Words: *Tekken Killed It*

@personaphantom5543

3 жыл бұрын

@@joseurbina3835 Tekken didn't kill it's inspiration no it's Sega they don't let most of their franchises see the light of day that much unless it's Sonic, Yakuza or a Alien tie in game they are not interested.

@dj_koen1265

3 жыл бұрын

I saw some vf5 gameplay a while ago by accident And it looked really cool So at least i know about it if that counts

@ArpeggioPegasusMusic

3 жыл бұрын

@@dj_koen1265 VF really is cool. It's just a shame we haven't gotten a new game in years.

Melty Blood series has great 2D sprites.

I love how Ryu has the exact same stance for years lol

@Micha-Hil

3 жыл бұрын

if the path to destiny ain't broke, don't fix it

Very interesting, for some reason I got recommended it 4 years late.

I would like to see the entire video where they took the sequence at 2:12 from. So that we can see the secret behind the special moves in Street Fighter 1.

@CoreAGaming

8 жыл бұрын

It's from the documentary I Am Street Fighter. It's free to watch on youtube.

Blazblue has nice sprite art At least central fiction

Yeah without graphics there won't be physics in Tekken and DoA

at a base level it affects how well you're able to see what's going on.

high definition 2d sprites are my favorite in fighting games, something like blazblue for example. I've invested most of my time in Melee and sm4sh, i would love if they were sprite based instead of 3d.

Hey Core-A! What you're talking about is actually aesthetics, not graphics. Graphics are the technical capabilities that the game shows off, while aesthetics are the choices that go into color palette, animations, character and setting design. For example you mention Street Fighter III at the end of the video as your favorite graphics in fighting games. However, the graphics are clearly worse than that of say Street Fighter IV. But perhaps there's something about the aesthetics and how that information is communicated to you that pleases you more in III than IV. Though I've never played any of the KoF games, I can guess that the negative response to the new trailers is due to the aesthetic not meshing well with the actual gameplay, even though the graphics are clearly better than older gamesi n the franchise, which is also something you mentioned. Great video, just thought I'd make that correction.

@skwmusic5233

8 жыл бұрын

+Kevino Put another way, graphics are your toolset, and aesthetics is how a designer uses that toolset. A pro with lesser tools can create a better product than an amateur with a wider toolset.

@CoreAGaming

8 жыл бұрын

+Kevino Thanks, you make some good points. I guess I lumped graphics and aesthetics into just the term graphics lol.

@bawitback

8 жыл бұрын

+Kevino I agree this also goes for games that were highly successful that did NOT make major graphical "improvements" to there games for example King of Fighter series. Funny you did not show the timeline of classic KOF series how the sprites remained the same, but altered gameplay was improved each installment. It comes down to aesthetics, and "good" graphics do not matter in fighting games.

We also need to consider the actual implementation of 2D and 3D graphics for fighting games. KOF 2D is way ahead of KOF 3D. Street Fighter 2D and 3D are both explored and evolved nicely. Street Fighter Alpha 3D was not great, but decent back then. Tekken has always been 3D, like DOA also, it is good that way.

my favorite graphics are in Art of Fighting 2 for neo geo. I just wish it were hd and had more frames of animation. I love the art style and zooming effects

I'm glad Street fighter 5 is Pixar styled instead of streetfighter four's cheesy cell shade

I liked old SNK beautifulsprites with all their details. I also liked the Srteet Fighters vs Marvel.

@josephkerr7820

8 жыл бұрын

I really miss old SNK : (

Although it's no match for something like Skullgirls, Touhou: Antimony of Common Flowers has some great animation and sprites

In a more general sense, I think good graphics indicate that a certain level of love and care was applied in making the game; it wasn't just made by soulless developers looking to cash in on your nostalgia, it was made by people who cared enough to do the game and its characters justice

persona 4 arena ultimax. it's a spin-off of another series but it still has since beautiful visuals

Personally I don't think its graphics that are important, but animations. If animations are fluid, then visual appeal is mostly just a plus

I don’t even game, but your videos are truly a wonderful foundation for certain gaming concepts. Nice job.

Loved the beautiful hand-drawn animation and over-the-top specials in X-men Vs. Streetfighter

Good stuff as always mate! These vids are rly well made. I started playing fighting games like 22 years ago with SF2, Primal Rage, Ninja Turtles etc on my Sega Mega Drive. Once the Dreamcast was released FG graphics got to a whole new lvl - DoA2 & Soul Calibur were so much ahead of it's time graphically wise and I gotta say that I am rly impressed how much the graphics have improved in FGs these days. I wonder how far the developers can push next gen graphics - let me say in 10 years from now - SF8 and MK12. Thanks for sharing this and keep up the good work.

@CoreAGaming

8 жыл бұрын

+LiangHuBBB Yeah, I remember how awesome Dreamcast graphics were when it first came out, though I mostly played MvC2 on it.

I still play third strike as my main for a reason, and I do own 5, I'm getting into fighter z tho

Love your guys videos the quality is so high

As far as graphics in fighting games, I'm gonna call an obscure one and say Touhou Scarlet Weather Rhapsody (plus the Hisoutensoku expansion) probably have some of the best graphics in fighting games ever. The high-res energy projectiles plus the sort of pixel-y character designs just fuse so well for some reason.

I will, definitively, miss the anime-like styles from late 90's to early 2000's.

My favourite graphics in fighting games are SF Alpha 3, GG Xrd Revelator and MK X.

My favorite graphical game is MK9, I just loved how everything was moving in the background and the way everyone looked. I know the new ones look better now but Damn I was impressed back then.

4:06 that jiggle though