Analysis: How to Find Out Who's the Best
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True story, Pablo jumped on my stick during a ranked match in USF4 and lvl 3 red focused my opponent killing him. Couldn't get mad.
@PrimusSheck
6 жыл бұрын
Then you would think Pablo could beat Guy.
@grimmkiller2161
6 жыл бұрын
Core-A Gaming dude I love your videos they're are so well made.
@WindHashira
6 жыл бұрын
Haha Nicesuu
@Zhalfrin
6 жыл бұрын
Pablo and Maximilian dood's dog Benny need to battle now, animals with leet fighting game skills
@silverrain530
6 жыл бұрын
Core-A Gaming My cat killed a lvl 9 cpu Ganondorf by tripping over my controller's C-stick.
Invitationals should be reserved for big events, something purely for spectators to see a game at its highest level. However, the majority of tournaments ought to be open. Like you said, honoring the arcade-era romance of anyone with a couple of quarters in their pockets becoming a local star is one of the greatest appeals of fighting games specifically, and that legacy deserves to remain through time.
@ScribeAwoken
6 жыл бұрын
I'd also add that there's another use for invitationals, that also are aimed more at spectacle than on actual competition: stuff with a more casual atmosphere and a heavier focus on player interactions and silly side events than on actual competition. See HyperX's stuff where they had players from multiple games, or the Smash Summit and Smash 4 Boot Camp invitationals for Melee and Smash 4 respectively.
@canadiangooseok7281
2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree, I love the arcade idea of all you need to start your fighting game career is a quarter
2:23 How is having a cat in a tournament a problem?
@CoinBox170
6 жыл бұрын
The world just isn't ready to accept cats into pro gaming.
@esmo9728
6 жыл бұрын
louisng114 discrimination against felines
@leonardowatch6997
6 жыл бұрын
Yea, I thought that comment was really discriminatory and unnecessary. Not cool dude. Lost a lot of respect for him. I have two wonderful cats, and I'd hate for them to hear that kind of bigotry.
@toadstar1004
6 жыл бұрын
Speciesism.
@TAKEYOURCREATINE
6 жыл бұрын
#NotAllCats
The fundamental problem with Palblo the cat is that he always sleeps on his opponent. Otherwise he could do very well in Street Fighter tournaments.
@Free-4554
5 жыл бұрын
If we are talking melee Jigglypuff, then sleeping on the opponent is the real strategy.
@canadiangooseok7281
2 жыл бұрын
He’s like bed man, he could be god if he stops sleeping
Pablo for EVO 2018!
@brunop.8745
5 жыл бұрын
Pablo for EVO 2019
@kamui1847
4 жыл бұрын
yo let's go Pablo
@baton3779
4 жыл бұрын
Pablo for EVO 2020
@zojaXII
4 жыл бұрын
@@baton3779 yeah about that...
@ShivaM-dc4xe
2 жыл бұрын
@@zojaXII lmao his comment didnt age well
Stop what you're doing, Core A uploaded a video. I'm going to enjoy these 10 mins.
@arcadehayabusu2295
6 жыл бұрын
ssjgoten202 me too
@internetexplorer9492
6 жыл бұрын
Damn straight
@sheercold26
6 жыл бұрын
Lol same
@dcode1000
6 жыл бұрын
I got high before watching this
@S1Roni
6 жыл бұрын
Gerald is life, bro. Also, I think I played a ranked match against you the other day in SFV lol.
I think we all slept on pablo.
open tournaments is the thing that makes fighting games a better "esport" than others. almost every other game genre you need to be on a team and shit. fighting games you can literally be the lone wanderer, go practice in the mountains, and win evo if you got good enough
@AirLancer
6 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the competitive fighting game scene is easily the most diverse of any competitive gaming community.
@Karionfabe1
5 жыл бұрын
99% of Starcraft tournaments (bw and sc2) have open brackets/qualifiers. I think being a 1v1 game makes it easier to have open brackets, FG and sc have that in common.
@baker7280
5 жыл бұрын
That’s probably just because it’s a 1v1
@isaacyingzhouteh
5 жыл бұрын
Other genre have open tournaments as well, it's called qualifiers. Fighting games can do open tournament like this because it doesn't takes as long to finish a BO3 or BO5.
@SkyreeXScalabar
4 жыл бұрын
true real life tournament arc
Mad Respect to Punk for knowing Money and Prestige are not the same thing. Also, I surprised they didn't call it the Deadpool. I mean, it was right there.
@sarthakverma1030
6 жыл бұрын
xThe_noJx Copyright. Sucks, I know. I also realize that you may have known that and I killed a joke. I don't regret anything.
@niceboy5559
6 жыл бұрын
Sarthak Verma we have the same pic
@Free-4554
5 жыл бұрын
It's kinda sad to see him get brutally harassed in the tournament he was destined to win.
9:18 this moment just puts a smile on my face. Two people from completely different worlds enjoying the same thing.
Damn Evil Bill put me against Infiltration in pools at EVO this year.
@CoinBox170
6 жыл бұрын
RIP
@anappleaday1889
6 жыл бұрын
Damn son...But hey if anything, I'd much rather lose to a legend like Infiltration than some random player. I least you could say " *I played Infiltration at evo* ".
@Switcheroo4542
6 жыл бұрын
Did you win? :P
@onslauhtphoenix3962
6 жыл бұрын
Tocsin haha fuck evil bill
@warangelcloud
5 жыл бұрын
Did you learn anything? I mean it's not like you can't grow. Become the next EVO champ.
dude you're one of the best channels out there holy shit
we all know Diego is the best.
@poketto5853
6 жыл бұрын
+Ranc Henash you're right, Diego Brando is the best version of Dio
@omg241
6 жыл бұрын
Diego Umejuarez is love.
@Cunt143
6 жыл бұрын
Brian Pokettofan Estrada you are unironically correct
@matheusaragao7640
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah man, in tournament, Diego sure is a Scary Monster
@nelsonrodriguez2085
5 жыл бұрын
Diego UmeJuarez is the best Río in Fighting Street history
They should do both open and invitationals but the invitationals should only be winners of previous open tournaments. That way people in the open tourneys have another thing to look forward to aside from the experience or prize money. it would make open tourneys like a stepping stone to the more elite invitationals
@jjrobledo
6 жыл бұрын
Screaming10YearOlds Inc. Invitationals need viewers so they should invite diverse players
@Innaething9
6 жыл бұрын
Screaming10YearOlds Inc. Well that's kinda what it is on E league, as it was said on the video the benefits of the league is to have staked up matches all the time. And you do that by having player that are good and already have a following fanbase. And how do you get recognized for being good and start having a fanbase in fighting games? Winning open tournies. The thing is that e league brings a whole other kind of production value to the table that very few if not zero endemic fighting gaming brand is able to offer. It's good for the future
@Kitsune81
6 жыл бұрын
I like this. Much better than the popularity contest that invitationals are usually, where questionable people get invited who never really placed well in tournaments in recent years lol
@HildrTV
6 жыл бұрын
Dude we already have that. Its called capcom cup
@aspreedacore
6 жыл бұрын
he means more like it
Pablo placed 3rd? That's better than most of my placings in tournaments! Teach me your ways, Pablo!
@CoinBox170
6 жыл бұрын
Also, open tournaments always. I'd never get into an invitational.
i think there needs to be a balance of both. opens give a chance for fresh new blood to enter the scene while invitationals reward players for strong performances in past tourneys.
@RyuGuitarFreak
6 жыл бұрын
Chris Kim Agree. I enjoyed the hell out of eleague SFV. The different format was really interesting. I say the same for Red Bull Proving Grounds.
I absolutely adore these Analysis videos. Your hard work never goes unnoticed. Very informative, I must say.
6:12 > Ayn Rando My friend, you just launched my sides into orbit.
One of the reasons why I loved my experience in open tournament (especially the "open training" gattering the evening before the official tournament at DreamHack Montreal) is meeting people from around the world who share the same passion. I cannot play anymore coz my hands are ruined by artritis but it was so great just to hang out, chill and learn. I have been able to chat with some of the greatest players (that you interview a lot on your channel), and everybody was equal on that day. By chatting with everyone I got way more involved as a fan to follow their career and their match. It kind of democratize the whole industry. My teen nephew was with me and he's too young to have really played with sticks on arcade machines and usb ones are quite expensive so he doesn't own one. But on that day he met somebody who decided to teach him the basics, he borrowed somebody's stick and a huge bunch of top player gamers started to coach him just for the fun of it. (They all saw something in him I guess!) The next event is in autumn and he's already asking me to go with him but he wants to play next time!! I also remember the frenzy my friend showed when his opponnent was his idol!! Thing were going quickly, he didnt check the bracket he just sat at his machine and than the player he loves the most just sat next to him. He was both horrified coz he knew he had no chance but psyched to meet him at the same time! My friend's greatest moment of the tournament was when he won ONE round over him. I think he still talks about it coz he cannot believe it himself!! Also, one of the thing I loooooove about open tournaments is how it creates some kind of reality check for people who are bragging non-stop on how good they are even tho they only played against their buddies or NPC. Open tournament makes some people more humble!!! 😅 ***Even tho, I will admit that if I watch a tournament online I love the invitation formula so I guess I like them both in different context.
The bracket having Maikky vs Dr. Mike bracket was hilarious. Thank you, Gerald.
@mrfreakmaster2256
6 жыл бұрын
i am a simple man....i see robotech/macross i like
Love your videos! I never understood the bracket system until you, Core-A-Chan
Gerald, I love your videos!!! They are highly informative, clear and concise, and very well edited! You're probably the only educational YT channel that I drop everything to see to a notification for!
This is a really good video, it gives a really good overview of how tournaments within the FGC work. Invitationals are both good and bad. They allow the best of the best to compete against eachother, and generally cut out the 'clutter' of random players at big tournaments. But the thing is, this also cuts out some of the hype. With an invitational, it's just a display of pure skill against pretty evenly matched people, generally without a crowd and there's a winner and they shake hands, and that's the invitational over. With a massive tournament like EVO, there's a huge crowd cheering on the competitors, which adds to the hype. Random players also add to the hype, because it creates bigger and more devastating upsets, which sucks as a competitor but it's healthy for the viewers and for the community. As a competitor myself, losing to a random unseeded wifi player feels terrible, but watching and rooting for the underdog in a tournament is so much fun, and adds to the experience as a whole. Which is something that Invitationals take away. It's just the best, not the randoms of mixed talent or the people who shake things up. So an invitational is the best display of skill, but an open tournament is the best display for the viewers. So a mix is good.
Your videos are the best in gaming genre. I keep rewatching them 3 years after, please keep them coming!!! So talented
I think the last example is a great setup. It makes the community more welcoming and diverse. And honestly for a passive player like me who sucks it's just fun to feel welcomed and play this fun game with similar minded folks.
This is such a well made video. As someone with only a cursory knowledge of Melee from my friends, I now feel like I understand and appreciate tournaments so much better. Thank you so much Core-A, I hope to see more vids from you in the future!
the production value of your videos keeps getting better. amazing work, keep it up!
That s my favorite video of this channel. Inspired me to organize one tounament with my friends (:
What I love so much about these videos is that they are actual analysis'. Very few videos go so in depth and explain thoughts so well.
Dude all of your content is so damn top notch. I love how much work you put into every single video you upload
One of my favorite channels on KZread. Great editing and commentary I hope you keep up the videos
Love at first sight with the song at the beginning 0:01. Don't regret looking it up.
You captured the essence of tournaments pretty much in your video, keep up the great work!
Core-A your videos are so well made it baffles me sometimes. Thanks for the content man!
The production value of these are top notch. Keep it up man. Great job.
Very nice video dude. Love the visual aids and editing!
I enjoy your videos so much. Thank you so, so much for making them! Hope for many more in the future
I am always so pleased to see a channel with high quality and meaningful content. Please keep up the good work.
I didn't understand from the title that this video was going to be about how to organize the play in tournaments, but now I know exactly what video to show someone when they're learning this stuff. Thanks!
My boy Gerald coming through with the right subject at the right time. Thank you for exploring and clarifying this topic in the midst of the whole Shine 2017 debacle. Keep up the good work man!
I swear, im glad i subbed a few months back. I look forward to these videos all the time 👌
as always a well crafted video, nice job Core-A, was missing your videos
That picture with all the randoms and then Diago at the front really hit home 🤣🤣
Great video man. Being someone who manages small-scale sports tournaments (Table Tennis, Carrom..etc), this video helps me understand some things better as well explain the idea behind single elimination, seeding, brackets ..etc in the most fun way possible.. Keep up the great work!!
Awesome vid brah, your content is solid and I finally understand how fighting game tournaments work. Keep it up!
Your stuff is great. I use your videos in coaching sessions for my table top team I run. Keep up the excellent work!
Duuuuude! This is top 3 best KZread channels I've EVER stumbled upon. I'm definetely getting all those songs. The guitars on the 1st one sound brutal!
these vids clear up so much questions i have. thanks a lot man
I'm a fan of Dota2, so I really appreciate their tradition of splitting tournaments half invites/half placements from open qualifiers. This means the organizers essentially have to put on two tournaments, and the open tournament to determine who qualifies often times suffers in terms of quality. But, it allows well known teams to essentially act as "bosses" for the qualified teams.
Love these sick videos!! Keep up the great work!
Always exciting to see a new video from this guy!
Right off the bat w/ Kim Wu's theme. *I'M IN*
It’s rare to see videos so well done
the music at the end is epic as fuuu. I really like both, as mostly a spectator I appreciate the two formats for different reasons
Bro, you make the best content on youtube. I've never played or been interested in fighting games in my life and love this series. Thankyou.
These videos are so well put together. Nice job.
The animation of the still pictures of the top players are hilarious.
Very interesting input , and the part about seeding and why it is so important its educative for TOs.
Is that Secret of Mana soundtrack? I highly respect you.
@AliMohamed-fu5lc
6 жыл бұрын
AND I RESPECT YOU FOR NOTICING IT AS WELL
@Nintega2K
6 жыл бұрын
uh, check the description
@kirjian
6 жыл бұрын
Nintega94 I mentioned it because it's not in the description.
@CoreAGaming
6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, fixed that.
Good video! I think both open tournament and invitational formats are good and exciting to watch. We should just keep using both. Also, Austin was so cute at the end lol he's such a nice guy
Great content as always Gerald, I always look forward to your videos!
Goddamn. Tournament design is a fascinating topic.
This wasn't what I expected based on the title, but I couldn't have enjoyed it any more than I did. Thanks so much for what you do!
These are my fav videos no lie. Please never stop :)
My mind involuntarily shut off because I don't ever see myself having to organize a tournament on such a scale but I did watch it all the way through because I was so intrigued. Thanks for another great vid!
Each of your videos is like a smal documentary film on fighting games. I love it.
Great analysis guys. Keep up the great work
another great video CAG i like both! i love being able to participate, and i love that the PROS can choose to enter the big ones, or wait for the invitationals. 2017 is a beautiful time. now only if sf5 can fix their input lag / throw "mix-ups", i'll be happy.
Please don't stop making videos. You've got a hell of a talent good sir.
Capcom needs to see this asap
Great video! Love the Kim Wu theme on the video, keep up the good work!!
Great video as always, clean, interesting and with a perfect flow. You also list the songs you use in the video which a secret god tier move
I get so exited when I see you upload
I want weekly videos like this! I really learn new things with your content
@RadioactiveBlutonium
6 жыл бұрын
These videos take too much work to be released weekly, quality over quantity!
Open tournaments expands the community
another facet of competitive gaming i never considered and am now dwelling on all of the possibilities of a tournament bracket setup and applying them to sports n shit while visiting contemplation nation. sikkk vidd as usual
Dude this is my favorite channel on KZread for sure.
Been waiting for these videos.
i see perfectly normal to have a cat in a tournament... as a mater of fact we need more cats on tournaments XD
@Switcheroo4542
6 жыл бұрын
Cat-only tournament
Very informative video. Keep up the good work!
I’m on my cycle of watching all your videos in 2 days every 4 months or so
You should definitely have more subs. You're freaking awesome. I like the research you do.
Your videos are fucking A+ quality my dude. Keep it up, we all really appreciate them.
That secret of Mana music switch brought back a nice nostalgia 💪🏿
Core-A Gaming: The only channel on KZread that doesn't stretch his videos to 10 min for ad revenue
I need more core a in my life
Excelente video como siempre. Excellent video as usual.
What an incredibly well made video! Awesome!
Loving that p4a evo trophie!! That year was sick!
Great stuff, keep it up!
Good quality content as always! 😄
Another analysis video!! Yes!! Thank you Core-A Gaming :D
man these videos are nice to watch
Your videos are always great Keep it up man
Bro your videos are TOP quality.
Fantastic video as always
I finished marathoning your analysis videos yesterday, woke up today to find a new analysis video, finished the video, pressed replay button.
Awesome, Awesome, AWESOME job with this Core-A. Really well edited and put together and gets at the heart of the matter as to the different types of tournaments as well as how each helps determine player skill. To answer your question at the end I argue both need to work in a symbiotic relationship with one helping sustain the other. Massive tourneys like EVO, CEO and Final Round help introduce us to players previously unknown and gives them a venue and a platform to make a name for themselves. Where would Punk, Snake Eyez, Justin Wong really be on a national level with out these things to help them garner our attention and admiration? Similarly over in Japan, even with one man elimination events, through sheer determination and force of will from grinding it out, the best players are able to stand out and rise above the rest to form an identity within their community. However I feel once you've established a field of talent that is well and far above the rest, its nice to do things like E-League and invite the best of the best to a high-stakes, rigorous fight. Giving players that have already managed to stand out among their respective communities the ability to play longer more thorough sets in a round robin format helps really do a lot to show who is truly hot and who is not. With both of these types of tournament formats working in tandem you can come to a much more complete and informed opinion on who is truly the best at a competition, instead of spazzing out and exclaiming the guy who won that one tournament that one time is the best because he had really cool hair and you like really cool hair and he won, so OBVIOUSLY he's the best.......................................... -_- Like TOO MANY people in the FGC LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE to do sadly. SMH
@SilverStarGG
2 жыл бұрын
what is the cool hair guy problem you refer to?
Please make more videos, I love discussions about interesting subjects such as fighting Games, maybe you could tell us about YOUR experience learning fighting games
Great episode! Thanks!