Katir has been the most suspicious guy for a few years.

@user-cn8vj5rs5c

3 ай бұрын

In words of a legend: everyone's one steroids

@isitrachelorj3953

3 ай бұрын

That is an understatement!

A clean athlete would prioritize whereabouts testing. Missing 3 in one year in combination with a massive drop in times in all events. 100% doping.

@Lankyfool234

3 ай бұрын

can't say 100% but almost certainly yes

@jojolords4523

3 ай бұрын

not really, because sometimes it's not the athletes fault, look at what happened with Tobi Amusan, her suspension got reversed last year.

@kalinasuter6535

3 ай бұрын

theyre olympic medalists, none of them are clean athletes

@jojolords4523

3 ай бұрын

@@kalinasuter6535 Nah, you cannot say none

@Brave-828

3 ай бұрын

@@kalinasuter6535that’s a very simplistic statement. Talent and grit will lead you to the top. The problem is people with inferior athletic genetics think that those who have natural athletic abilities are cheating. Try to think more critically

He probably ate a bad burrito

@josephgschwartz

3 ай бұрын

I'll have the houlihan special please.

Back in 2021, when I first noticed him, I thought to myself where did this guy come from suddenly running crazy times and finishing well against the best. And Spain’s doping authorities are so inefficient they appear to be complicit.

Lots of people called this

Noone surprised. Even in past Spain was allowing this via sending letters via paper post, instead of electronic way.

@musclelessfitness2045

3 ай бұрын

This one was easy. Most of the athletes who can run 3:30 and faster are doping, including your favorite Jakob Ing.

@rm6857

3 ай бұрын

Mine?

@sydaris1993

3 ай бұрын

You’ve never been on his level and here your criticizing his progression. His hard work. No ones researching your stats and calling you sketchy. Let’s count how many times you called him sketchy and you don’t even know him. Destroying his image for what? Clout?

@seatownfan

3 ай бұрын

@@sydaris1993Huh? He got suspended because he is hiding.

@musclelessfitness2045

3 ай бұрын

@@sydaris1993 We're not on his level because we either don't have great genetics or we have professions and other hobbies. We don't need clout, we just need the truth to come out.

0:45 Mo Katir is the second-fastest all time over the 3'000m indoor, but he placed second in that race, Lamecha Girma broke the World Record then.

Hahahaha I literally called this like 3 years ago. Dude gave away ALL the signs of a clear doping cheater.

@lunarsabbatical7906

3 ай бұрын

What’s signs ares those

Hi Spencer, I don't want to defend Katir, but it should be mentioned that he got a sponsorship contract with Asics in the beginning of the year 2021. This may have helped him in his great progression that year. Perhaps from then on he was financially independent and could focus full-time on running for the first time in his career.

It's very nice that even though your involved in this sport and know a lot of people you are still always very fair and unbiased on these situations. Plus it's always nice to have someone who actually knows what they're talking about about!

Very good and well researched video. Thank you 👍

100% agree with you. Those are some crazy improvements.

Good video, i enjoyed this style of video

He went from running what a good, but by no means amazing D1 athlete could run, to then competing with the world's best within a year. Very very fishy.

@matriaxpunk

3 ай бұрын

So he just started dopping as the rest do

Thats a huge surprise, I’d thought he was very humbling, and honest about his career path.

It's possible that 2020 was a doping year for many due to lockdown, but afterwards less. But such a progression is definitely possible.

And now an Olympic qualifier is gone too; this year is cursed

off topic, what kind of pan do you cook with ?

Now do Mo Farah before and after Salazar. He went from a journeyman to a multiple time gold medalist at an older age than Katir.

@alexanderl9985

3 ай бұрын

You forgot Galen Rupp

@sschwen8050

3 ай бұрын

Galen was with Salazar the whole time. Since HS.

I also want to know your opinion about the altered games Spencer

@janemf

3 ай бұрын

i just want to see peter thiel compete in enhanced powerlifting

A jump like that in the 1500 is shocking when you go from a great runner to one of the best ever

A part of me hates these "whereabouts" suspensions for people who just aren't great at staying organized on updating their location from day to day and end up getting banned despite being clean. But, on the other hand, it's part of the job and this athlete in particular is someone whose name has been whispered about the past couple years as being someone whose rapid improvement seemed...questionable.

@nberkel

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. It's part of the gig if you want to compete at this level. Plenty of people in line willing to abide by the rules.

@EricS-uf9mv

3 ай бұрын

"A part of me hates these "whereabouts" suspensions for people who just aren't great at staying organized on updating their location from day to day and end up getting banned despite being clean." This DOESN'T happen and has NEVER happened in the history of sport. It isn't a "gotcha" system. You don't have to account for every hour of every day for your entire life. And they DON'T just show-up at random times ANYWHERE in a 24hr period! The athlete has an APP where they specify a 2hr window where they'll be everyday. Like 99.9% of athletes simply list their HOME ADDRESS and sometime in the morning like 5am-7am... you KNOW.... WHERE YOU SLEEP AND WAKE UP EVERY DAY when NOT in competition or attending training. You can list any 2hr time windows you desire, but everyone just puts their home address and an EARLY window in the morning BEFORE they've peed. Also, you don't have to be at that location for the ENTIRE 2hr window! You only need to be there AT SOME POINT DURING that 2hr window... like just show up for a couple minutes. And if you suddenly decide to go on vacation or you get lucky & decide to sleep with someone you picked up at a party/bar/club, you can literally CHANGE YOUR WHEREABOUTS LOCATION 1 MINUTE AHEAD OF TIME without incurring a USADA/WADA violation. Also, if you ARE NOT at your specified location anytime during the 2hr window, they don't just issue a violation. THEY CALL YOU ON THE PHONE and ask, "where are you?" "we're looking for you", and they ATTEMPT to meet up w/ u. The only way an athlete legitimately gets a whereabouts violation is if they're WAY out of contact... like you're in a different country/state OR if you're INTENTIONALLY dodging the regulators... like not answering txts & calls! A PRO athlete is never going to be out-of-touch... like ever, unless they're intentionally dodging. Ex.. Like if you specify a window of 5am-7am and they show up at your house at 6:45m, but you're out picking up bagels & coffee, they'll PHONE YOU and work out a rendezvous. They don't just issue an immediate strike.

@PatNeedhamUSA

3 ай бұрын

​@@EricS-uf9mv"but everyone just puts their home address and an EARLY window in the morning BEFORE they peed" - could you explain why that's the case, like just out of convenience or something more to help with passing the tests if/when they're doping / on something illegal?

@EricS-uf9mv

3 ай бұрын

​@@PatNeedhamUSA The reason is b/c you MUST produce a urine sample ON THE SPOT, in ENOUGH QUANTITY, and in sufficient CONCENTRATION (like if it's too dilute they won't accept the sample), WHILE being watched. As you can image, it's a massive PITA trying to pee on demand while someone is literally staring at you... there is no privacy allowed. And if you CAN'T produce a sample? Well then the tester will literally WAIT in your house (like for hours) until you DO! Sooooo.... it's just easier all around of athletes to schedule an early morning window before they've peed.

@TheAthleteSpecial

3 ай бұрын

this is a great comment and I can confirm everything you are saying is exactly correct@@EricS-uf9mv

Always had doubts over his progress

Strong brave video to make Spencer

While suspended will he be tested? If you break the rules then to protect others he has to go. Guilt is irrelevant.

Great vid.

It's commonly called a where about violation. That is the same thing that happened to Christian Coleman.

@seatownfan

3 ай бұрын

Coleman is sus

@maxl5423

3 ай бұрын

Coleman said he had a Chipotle addiction

Rupp was doping too

What about Kerr? Do you think he is doping? I am asking because of his world record.

@stayontrack

3 ай бұрын

Kerr has a world record? If yes probably, can't break doped records clean

I failed my drug test, because I forgot to study...

Most of the top runners are on something

@charliewatkins4571

3 ай бұрын

1000 percent

Katir is originally from Morocco. The country does have a history in doping, Also for example Khalid Skah has been associated with both use and dealing. Katir having obtained Spanish citizenship combined with the current reputation of Spain in these matters it's all very fishy indeed.

@maxl5423

3 ай бұрын

That’s a very biased and discriminatory comment cause he moved to Spain when he was 5. It’s not like he came to Spain as a former Moroccan signed pro

@shanegill5091

3 ай бұрын

Totally racist comment. You wouldn't make a good prosecution lawyer. Be objective.

@EmergencyInductionPort

3 ай бұрын

​@@shanegill5091 none of that comment was even remotely racist. Literal facts.

yeahhhhhhh , NO! suspect! that looks really shady!

Nah he’s definitely not doping. It’s not like there was some worldwide event in 2020 that kept doping control from coming in contact with athletes.

The faster you get the smaller your improvements.

What's your opinion on the altered games ?

@TheRealBrayoTv

3 ай бұрын

Gene editing technology? it has been in use for quite a while now, it's actually highlighted on the banned list so they know ppl are doing this, well, the ones that have very serious connections and elite ranks. Gene editing tech is the reason East African domination will come to a halt. Have you noticed some guy who has been making East Africans look like they are walking backward at the end of 5k's lately? that will be the norm

I think he would have doped in 2020 because a lot of the antidoping measures were relaxed a bit because of Covid. That’s why his times improved so much in 2021 specifically.

I have thought this for a while now about Katir, he jumped from a mid pack runner to a front runner, very sketchy and Spain is also dodgy. Surprised they even reported this as there's lots of dodgy stuff going on there. Bit like the Kenyans who run for Turkey. Mo Farah should show him how to get away with missed tests 😂

@19Kamau79

3 ай бұрын

Mo use to be entertainer aka IAAF baby or protected athlete, there's always few of them at every era.

How long are you in boulder for?

Do you believe there are any top level runners that doesn't dope? In particular are there actually any clean world records from the last 10 years?

R.I.P Kelvin Kiptum

I wouldnt be surprised when youre sued for slander. thats an awful lot of accusations with no proof. best of luck with that one

I am glad you are not scared to talk about about this. My fear is that doped athletes are gonna drop future Olympic standard times so low that it is almost impossible for clean athletes to achieve them.

@juanjoseandradefigueroa9313

3 ай бұрын

Already happens. Look the standards on 5000, 10000 and marathon

AIU report shows he tried to manipulate the wherabouts data on the last one. Retroactively changed times and sent the DCO a screenshot. Backend data shows he's a liar. Paragraphs 26-33 in the AIU Report.

Even if I exclude the covid year 2020 (less opportunities to compete), there still will be some jumps in performance that are hard to explain.

now ban him for lifetime

You've got to factor in as well that 2020 was a covid year and his pb's were never going to be massively improved which could be a good reason for the rapid progressions in 2021 when restrictions were lifted

Everybody take 💉💉💉💉

All the elite pros are doping. Those who don’t, end up making youtube videos 😂

As I see it, pro runners are monsters, they have crazy physiologies and they train more than anybody. And then you have to add up the dopping. So in my opinion, when someone that isn’t even the best in the world gets caught dopping, that means that the guys that are beating him are probably dopping too. Otherwise, that would mean that there’s people who are able to beat someone which is already an outlier and is dopping too WITHOUT taking anything, which is both crazy and pretty unlikely.

Did he get signed to a team in 2020? That could mean he just went pro and started training a lot better and maybe if he has a history of injury it could explain it. But that could also mean that he had a team to supply him drugs too lol

Yeah. I remember this guys name being dropped as super sketchy prior to this. Maybe he’s not but yeah, the fact that a bunch of people mentioned his name before the missed tests, yeah it sure looks like he was.

Great, now do the same with Yared Nuguse.

No way this can’t be true….

Moroccans have a rich history of doping, even in those whom compete for emigrated countries, like Katir.

@maxl5423

3 ай бұрын

He moved to Spain when he was 5, if you’re gonna play whataboutism then it has to be logical and your country probably also has convicted doping cheats

@soukainalaoui

3 ай бұрын

Suddenly he is Moroccan 😂

Spanish beef I has improved from 2019-2021

Bad times in the running world.

Katir tried to justify his third whereabouts no show by sending a screenshot proving he was where he was supposed to be within the time frame of the inspectors visit, the only problem was the shot was timestamped a long time after the crucial hour had elapsed, this was easily proven by the agency showing his digital history, good runner , not so great at the whole digital history thing.

Like if Jakob Ingebrigtsen is better than Josh Kerr!!!👇

this isn’t just missing three windows, this is missing testing for an entire year. regardless of the rules here about when you get tested and how often, he is effectively an un-tested athlete at this point because even if we were to go and test him right now and he were clean, it’s totally possible that he’s been on gear for nine months out of the previous year. he’s saying “he hasn’t been tested to be in violation,” but that is so totally missing the point. he hasn’t been tested _at all_.

That shit you said on trp gonna come back to bite you hard; I can't wait to see.

Pretty sure Girma is the world indoor record holder

ah ! Finally ! It was so obvious !

dirty though he may be, i'm not a fan of this genre of video. call it before it comes out not after and attempt to connect the dots. that's a lazy man's game.

Spanish athletics is competing with Harvard science for fastest declining reputation.

It sounds suspicious to me. Have you heard about the 800 runner who switched clothing with someone after his race in the bathroom, then jumped out of the window and ran to his hotel to avoid getting tested?

Always thought this guy was doping years ago he was one of the most obvious ones out there.

I mean, progression shouldn't be the only measurement. If that where the case, Yared would be pretty sus...

But supershoes (easily!!!) 8 seconds over mile is way believable! This happened with so many top athletes

I am on EPO

Off topic...what stationary bike do you folks have?

13.50 for 5k age 20 and now 12.45

Where are uuuuu? Just wondering why youre not posting vids and felt like nagging you 😋

Makes sense in pro sports I bet most do drugs anyways

Definitely seems sketchy and I hope he’s suspended for the upcoming Olympics

ig you can never say w 100% certainty until they test positive but Katir went from very good to world class in no time. that just doesn not happen. 99.99% hes doping

Yeah he’s a liar

GOOD

Think you're clutching at straws here my friend. There's many more factors to consider when running outdoors, Like Wind, temp, rain, personal health, even time of day etc. You can't establish drug cheating from clock alone. I'm surprised you are even trying to do that. As an experienced athlete I'm sure you have experienced those changes as well.

Times jumped when no doping control (covid). 95% sure he was doping. Sad for the likes of Luis who missed out on global medals

And you think he is the only world class runner doping? Dream on. The increase in the number of runners (of both sexes) running close to WR times is all down to "supershoes" and double threshold days? Yeh, right. Athletes (or more likely their coaches and doctors) have worked out how to beat the biological passports and use EPO and other stuff more effectively without testing positive. In this case I would suggest that Katir got a bit careless and suspected he would test positive when tested so his only option was to avoid the test. If you had already missed two tests an athlete with nothing to fear would make damn sure he was available for the third one!

The least surprising of all athletes and the only one who would be even less surprising if they the ever came up positive would be Kelvin Kiptum.

#dopestrong

I don’t think he’s doping, 2021 was a breakout year for most athletes all around, and if you look at his workouts (sweat elite) he was running really fast in them and really working himself, I think he picked up a lot more foot speed which helped him, and training through the initial quarantine would’ve also helped as that would be the only thing he could focus on. Yes we didn’t see him have immediate results like Joshua cheptegei did in 2020 but it may have been a great base for him into 2021

@TheRealBrayoTv

3 ай бұрын

stay in lala land and continue believing in super heroes.

@seatownfan

3 ай бұрын

Just dumb

@pacoalonso373

3 ай бұрын

@@TheRealBrayoTv I don’t think he is, but he may very well be doping , I hope not for the sake of the sport and I argued my reasons why not, doesn’t mean I’m in lalaland, obviously there are reasons against which were listed in the video but he also asked at the end of the video for peoples opinion and I’m simply giving my reasoning along with the reasons he gave in the video

@RunLuppa

3 ай бұрын

Nobody had a progression like his in 2021. It's incredibly suspicious. And the sweat elite videos are from after his breakthrough year. So of course he looks fast in them.

Im doping maybe some day I will get off of jv and land a spot on my high school varsity team. Currently running a 21:02 5k and have started taking test, gh and others. Maybe some day I will run a 5k in 20:00 minutes and land a spot I hope to become greatest in world like Jacob.

@somerandomguy4943

3 ай бұрын

💀

@NathanWoyessa

3 ай бұрын

​@@somerandomguy4943 I say let him cook bro

Shame on you

@seatownfan

3 ай бұрын

Shame on Katir

Here this man is dealing with an injury and you spend 6 minutes trashing an athlete who’s trying to defend himself. Can the man go a week proving his innocence without you trying to profit off his struggles. No ones trashing you

@karolina.321

3 ай бұрын

Lots of people do trash Spencer on here, so that's not an educated observation. And Spencer has felt strongly about doping for as long as I've seen him on here, so its not surprising that this news inspired a video. I'm just saying know your creator

@steveoneill3538

3 ай бұрын

Yet he didn't do a video when allie got pinged

Stop hating bro

Big deal? Katir came out of nowhere and started placing 1st, 2nd and 3rd easily. This confirms that the top 1-10% athletes are doping, including Jakob Ing.

@miller10

3 ай бұрын

Ingebrigsten has been known at the top since he was a kid and was running incredible times since he was 16 (sub 4 mile). No, he didn’t improve rapidly in one year like katir

@TheRealBrayoTv

3 ай бұрын

100%

@seatownfan

3 ай бұрын

No evidence about other athletes

@musclelessfitness2045

3 ай бұрын

@@miller10 He went from 3:40 to 3:31 in one year, from 2017 to 2018. Then he went down to 3:28, a time that mostly africans can achieve.

@musclelessfitness2045

3 ай бұрын

@@seatownfan So if Katir didn't miss his tests, you would still think he is legit?

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