So excited to be back with the 2nd installment from the Troy Saga of EPIC: The Musical! In the coming days/weeks, the next three videos in the series will be coming -- I hope y'all are ready!

@oceanapearl3503

Ай бұрын

If I want to distract you from a crime I commit, all I have to do is play a really cool baseline, got it.

(since Peter has already recorded the entirety of the Troy saga by now) I am looking forward to your reaction of Open Arms + Saga 2, Sound 2! :)

@pazitrabinowitz3241

Ай бұрын

I think we've now figured out when a man becomes a monster...

@yeghoian

Ай бұрын

My guy is going to grief stage 5 REVENGE welcome to the team

@eevlyyn

Ай бұрын

casper on his journey to traumatize each and every one of his friends

@risha-mehanse4082

Ай бұрын

Mortius really made a monster 😂😭

@CRAZYCLOWNTOWN

Ай бұрын

Wait until he gets to the 5th saga

So fun fact. The question "When does a man become a monster" probably has two different lines before it in each iteration because the question has two subjects. When does the child become a monster that kills Odysseus later down the line, but also when does Odysseus become a monster if he kills this child.

@PurposeN.S.

29 күн бұрын

I'd argue that it's also talking about the baby growing up and becoming the monster he's prophesied to be

@donovan7chaotic38

29 күн бұрын

@@PurposeN.S. that's exactly what I said "when does the child become a monster that kills Odysseus later down the line"

@idkwhattonamethisacc513

9 күн бұрын

​@@PurposeN.S. might need to learn how to read again bro

@_marou_

3 күн бұрын

It also is referenced a bunch on other songs, like Goodbye, Ruthlessness, and monster, as all of those moments are all challenging him whether he'll be a monster that is victorious, rather than a compassionate man who's good, but not great at the things he's doing.

infanticide ❌ chromatic bassline ✅ jokes aside, as someone who doesn't know much about music theory but has a passing interest, your explanations are letting me appreciate the music on a whole new level and it's fascinating. please continue being so invested in the music, it's highly engaging to watch

@amberx1273

Ай бұрын

lmao the infant was deadass being dropped and bro was SO INVESTED on the baseline😭

@PeterBarber

Ай бұрын

So glad to hear my analysis is helping you appreciate the music -- that's my whole goal!

@Devilspade

Ай бұрын

​@@amberx1273"ight gotta kill a kid, bop"

Fun Fact: All voices in this musical are diegetic voices (meaning they come from actual characters singing), except for when a god is singing then they can summon a choir at will when they want to. Meaning at the end of this song, Odysseus's own men were singing about when a man becomes a monster while watching him drop this child

As someone has less than 0 music knowledge, the way you explained by humming the base line during the song was a fantastic way to convey that information

@PeterBarber

Ай бұрын

Amazing :]

Finally got around to watching this one, I LOVE the instrumental breakdown!!!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us, I love that we’re all tackling it from such different angles :)

@Wheelwalker8

Ай бұрын

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I just love how every time I tune in to a new reaction of Epic there's always a "Mortius recommended this to me" Mortius really doing god's work out here

@officialmortius

Ай бұрын

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@fireatwilliam

Ай бұрын

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@dustybooks_

Ай бұрын

FRRR BRO

@NordemRay

Ай бұрын

The EPIC: the musical missionary

Some things to know to enhance you listening expierience in future sagas 1. Almost every character is represented by a specific instrument, odysseuss being an electric/nylon string guitar, athena being piano, penelope as a viola, etc. 2. Listen out for motifs and callbacks to earlier in the music, there are a lot. 3. The melody that you can hear on strings during the fight scene in "The horse and the infant" is known as "the danger is nearing motif" that melody is used several times throughout the musical whenever, well... danger is nearing 4. Jay (the writer) took a lot of inspiration from video games and anime with this musical, so if your familiar with those at all you may be able to notice some inspiration there 5. One recurring musical theme is that mortal characters like odysseus tend to be represented by more orchestral and natural insturments. While god characters like zeus and athena use more electronic elements in therem music. Pretty the more magic that is involved, the more electronic elements you will hear in the music. This concludes my nerdout session

@JerrBaybEe

Ай бұрын

I'm actually excited to see what he is able to catch without knowing all the ins and outs. That's what's exciting for me, when ppl notice something that's there on purpose ❤️‍🔥

@n1t-m1n103

Ай бұрын

Don't forget that all supporting choirs are diagetic and actually have to exist in universe, except for ones supporting gods and goddesses because they can just summon supporting vocals on comand.

I can't wait for you to get to "Ruthlessness" and "No longer you." Both are my absolute favorites they've made so far.

@ezracohen6020

Ай бұрын

My top three are ruthlessness underworld and Polyphemus so I’m really excited for those

And the "when does a man become a monster" having double meaning! Him and the infant!

I’m soo glad more people are reacting to Epic! It’s a pretty untapped market, which is weird because it’s so popular and there’s so much to analyse here: The callbacks/reprises of songs that add so much depth, The Oscarworthy story, the different characters voices and I was hesitant at first to tell you this but it won’t spoil anything and I feel like a guy like you who really analyses would love it: Every main character has a “signature” instrument. Lastly, your last reaction was great, I can’t wait to see this one and welcome an new fan to the fandom!

16:25 The way you said, “alright gotta kill the kid” with the sound effect of dropping the kid actually took me out. I think that’s the best reaction I’ve seen to Odysseus possibly dropping the kid. I legit needed a few minutes to stop crying laughing.

@disableddragonborn

Ай бұрын

One time, I was rocking out to Act One, and at the end of this song, completely unintentionally, I said "thunk!" RIGHT WHEN ASTYANAX WAS DROPPED. My dark sense of humor slipped out.

@Gwyndyn

28 күн бұрын

​@disableddragonborn My kids and I always say "Yeet!" at that part. 😂

@disableddragonborn

28 күн бұрын

@@Gwyndyn It's not even something I'd normally do, especially in this context, because I believe there's nothing more evil than ending a life that hasn't had a chance to be lived, so I hate Odysseus for doing that. I felt so bad when the word came out of my mouth.

the last time I saw several animatics of a musical, was Hamilton. Epic is something special and HUGE

When you get to the Cyclops Saga, I suggest watching Mircsy's animatics for Polyphemus and Survive, especially the latter. Also AnniFlamme's animatic for Ruthlessness when you get to the Ocean Saga is 🤌, tho Gigi's version is good too. And Gigi's animatic for Keep Your Friends Close is a really good one. Just like Mircsy's for Polyphemus and Survive lead into each other, Gigi's version of Keep Your Friends Close and Ruthlessness go together.

Peter this is why I’m such a huge fan of yours and love your reactions. I have listened to this song a billion and one times and you helped me noticed things in the song that I never heard or thought of. In just the first two songs you opened my eyes to so many new things and I can’t wait to learn new things about the rest of Epic the musical. One note: I think the different inflections on “when does a man become a monster” reflects a double meaning, one referring to Odysseus becoming a monster for what he needs to do and the other refers to him asking himself “this is just an infant but when he does all the things Zeus said he will, he won’t be and an infant anymore he will be a monster”.

12:37 casper or mortius may have mentioned this already but by the rules of the musical all human characters backing vocals have to exist as “real” people within the musical which means that those are his soldiers backing him as he makes the decision to kill the infant

Just a man is so amazing...Wolfy's first animation of it just makes me cry so much.

This is the dope part about this is that, theres an aspect of interest for anyone whether its story or animatic or music theory or concepts and ideas or philosophy

I only just noticed while watching your videos but my theory is that Odysseus, in this song and the one before, goes through the five stages of grief while questioning whether he will actually kill this infant. Denial, where he says he can’t or won’t kill him. Bargaining, where he asks whether he can raise him, send him away, or keep him in ignorance. Depression, where he talks about how guilty he feels for how many lives he’s already taken. Anger, which is believe would be the section where he asks when the line has been crossed where you go from man to monster. Acceptance, where he says forgive me, I’m just a man. Also, I think that thinking about Penelope and Telemechus when he said “I would trade the world to see my son and wife”was the point where he decided that he would kill the infant to save his family and the ‘when does a man become a monster’ section and saying he is just a man are his way of justifying the act to himself. Anyway, those are my ramblings. Hope to see more of your videos on this awesome musical!

THREE DAYS!?!

@Sellers6621

Ай бұрын

Welp, see you guys Monday lol

that humming on the basse was so satisfactory and added so mucho its amazing xd

AHHHH I LOVE WHEN OTHERS REACT TO THIS!! We love this fandom and professionals >>

Animation, voice, and story, so touching and amazing

Looking forward to seeing your reactions to these songs. A friend turned me on to it and I've been enjoying it a lot. You've drawn my attention to more complexities than I noticed in the first song by myself and can't wait for you to cover my favorite songs from it so I can get more from them. Keep on making great videos.

you're going to love the next sagas they're all so good

I appreciate your piano key/humming to identify the key on camera So Much, knowing nothing abouy music theory, your analysis is SOOOO facinating! You _do_ add so much to the enjoyment/understanding of these songs! Thanks for your reaction!

Morthius and Casper be like WATCH THIS!!!! hahaha I hoe you love the full musical

Love your R&As!! Love the technical breakdown of the music!

I love seeing your take on this. Side note: I just showed this entire musical - or what's been released so far - to my voice lovin' mama (Master's in vocal performance, PhD in voice science) last night. She really enjoyed it. I also showed her some of The Bass Gang's music, and she was impressed. She's seen your content before, Peter, and appreciates you sharing the perspective of someone with high level training to help those who may be interested learn more about the technical side of singing and performing. So great job, man! Love your work.

This song is one of my favorites!!! ❤ It really conveys feeling. I just saw your reaction to horse and the infant and love your style of analysis!

Great Reaction!

As someone only slightly musically inclined I love hearing the technical parts!

So most of my musical theory is based in instruments, this is the second vid from you that I have watched and I'm learning so much! Thank you for going that extra depth

GOOD SIR WELCOME TO EPIC THE MUSICAL WE HOPE YOU LIKE IT HERE (Cyclops Saga/the next saga may or may not make you cry more)

@PeterBarber

Ай бұрын

I love a good cry

Loving this series so far! Looking so forward to your reactions to the whole thing

i love how you explain the music and the fact you payed attention to the artwork as well!

Watching yours now that I have watched Jens! Following her and then you.

Yah dude, Ive never even heard of your channel before your first Epic vid. And i was amazed to hear things for the first time despite listening to them 50+ times now. even showed my mom the vid

Yo, when you pointed out that Bass chromatic descent, I was like !! That's what creates that "I'm going to embrace the monster, aren't i?" Mood like its the slow choice to go down the steps, so to speak lmao it rocked me so hard the first time i heard it

I can't wait till Peter goes into the ocean saga

absolutely love the epic reactions! as a singer myself love me a music theory break down, thank you for reacting

Love your way of explaining your musical Analysis!!!

Im so happy this musical is gaining more popularity!!!

I love your reactions so much! It's one of the only places my AP Music Theory class becomes useful xD

Loved your analysis. Thank you. 🥰

You’re right about the pizzicato and his falsetto. It is emotional.

ah, watching these kinds of videos make me miss singing so much

So glad your enjoy epic. Be prepared to have all the emotions you can think of. Its a fantastic musical and really soes deawrve all the attention ot is getting

Oh my gods, as someone who's always had issue with understanding sight reading and putting it into sound (I can tone match really well by hearing, but if you told me to sight read and sing it back, I'd struggle) it's great to actually listen to someone break it down. Also, maybe you saw my falsetto comment (or others) but thank you so much for that explanation when you were talking about it at the beginning, I can only assume that the closest thing for women is whistle tones since our vocal range is naturally higher than men.

oh it's amazing, thk you for this video ❤️‍🩹

Key of F. F A C Inverted A C F 2nd Inversion C F A The Tonic Note moves within the triad. 6 6 4 C major chord is the Dominant of F MAJOR I think

great reaction!

So good

Thank you

Im curious, you and The Bass Gang have made covers of a variety of different Billie Eilish songs, but I’ve never seen a first time reaction and/or analysis over songs of hers. It would be super awesome if you checked out some songs from her new album like The Greatest or Blue :)

DUDE "aight, gotta kill a kid. *blop*" fucking killed me, Figuratively* you know...cause I'm not a kid.....I've kill-

Mason! Hi! 👋 I thought this editing looked familiar.

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I just realized how cowardly Odysseus was in this. He's murdering a defenseless infant, but he does it in a way that he could find a way to diminish his responsibility, because all he did was drop Astyanax, and it's not the fall that kills, it's the impact. In Odysseus's twisted mentality, he could reduce his culpability.

@WittySomething

Ай бұрын

I more think it's that he can't bring himself to do it any other way. It's easier to do something awful if you can distance yourself as much as possible from what you're doing. Any other way of doing things would be him directly and actively killing an infant, whereas dropping him means the outcome is the same but it's delayed and not immediate. He doesn't need to see the baby die and can avoid seeing the aftermath so long as he doesn't look at where he dropped him.

@disableddragonborn

Ай бұрын

@@WittySomething Exactly. It's the coward's way of murder. He may have been distressed by Zeus's (in my opinion bullshit) claims, but he still willingly murdered an infant.

@ClawedAsh

Ай бұрын

@@disableddragonborn I mean, Zeus claims were true. By the way Greek Mythology is structured, they are true. If there is a prophesy in Greek Mythology, it will come true. Which means either Odysseus kills an infant, or that infant grows up and kills everyone he knows and loves.

@Dawn_the_dragon

Ай бұрын

Besides even if he did something else, like take the infant or raise it as his son, in the horse and the infant one of Zeus’es lyrics is “the gods will make him know” considering that many gods had been supporting Troy they would of 100% told the child. It’s a cowards move for sure but if there’s one we can learn from this musical is that Odysseus loves his wife and would do anything to save her. By killing the infant by dropping it, he is making it easier for himself to do it. He is still murdering a child but by doing this he is saving who he loves. That’s brave. To do something so horrible to save the lives of your loved ones is brave in a weird twisted sense.

@disableddragonborn

Ай бұрын

@@Dawn_the_dragon Zeus is the king of the gods. He could keep them in line if he tried, he's just lazy. As for the idea that he'd do anything to save her, if that were true, "Get In The Water" would be the last song. You can't kill a god, so the only way to protect Penelope and Telemachus from Poseidon would be to die. His son would be a grown man when Zeus's claims would happen, so he could defend himself, and he's the king of Ithaca, he almost certainly has guards. I don't believe Zeus. He just wanted to continue to be lazy.

Gorgeous

We need faouzia reaction immediately 😢

I would love to see reactions to Team Starkid musicals!

Has anyone given him the list of songs to listen to in order yet?

@mitchellb4551

Ай бұрын

I think his editor has that covered. said editor is running the series for 1 and arguably 2 other channels so he knows what he is doing.

Real question tho when does really a man become a monster Trivia time A -A witch B -A cyclops killing your best friend C -A god killing your men D - all of the above plus more things to deal about

@VictoriaStarratt

18 күн бұрын

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Мне очень понравилось 🤗🤗🤗

You already know, what happens tomorrow..? kzread.info/dash/bejne/oXx3w7ymed3YYNI.htmlsi=XO6OVtBsaKoysg3p (Hint of 5 points: endless scent of a wish at night)

pleaseeeee react to ori and the blind forest light of nibel

Dont get me wrong I love your reaction to the music, but I would like a little more commenting on the Lyrics… Im exited for you to react to the last song released, thats just gonna be such a long wait! Well… Ill find something to do… While I wait. WEEKS?!

@Kamarovsky_KCM

Ай бұрын

Mortius and Casper Fox , who he mentioned as the ones recommending him the series, have series of their own reacting to EPIC, and there they focus much more on the lyrical/story side ot things, so if you prefer those, you can watch theirs, while I assume Peter's will focus more on the music itself.

@malenejensen02

Ай бұрын

Dont you think I have already watched their videos?! 😂 Im watching EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING EPIC related!!!

@Kamarovsky_KCM

Ай бұрын

@@malenejensen02 Haha completely understandable, as I'm doing the exact same. But I think it's really cool that Peter is focusing on a completely different aspect to other reactors, as if he didn't it would essentially be nothing too informative for those who have seen the others, while with his current strategy, his vids bring something new to us Epic nerds

you arent ready for whats coming

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