An Assortment of James Reid "My Friend" Knucklers
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James Reid was a Catskills gunsmith who emigrated from Ireland by way of Scotland. He made a number of different revolvers, but is best known for his line of "My Friend" knuckleduster pepperboxes (or "knucklers", as he called them). At the height of their popularity, Reid had 17 employees, and made a total of about 23,000 of these guns. They were available in .22, .32, and .41 caliber rimfire cartridges, with both brass and iron frames. A revolver version with a single longer fixed barrel was available by special order.
In this video, we will take a look at each of the major variants, as well as a special-order revolver model.
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".41 caliber sold for $16,100" damn shame he isnt alive to see his work going for that much
@nickp1370
4 жыл бұрын
Guns are like artwork, they usually are worth way more a hundred years after the maker is gone...
@StupidIsMyJob
2 жыл бұрын
Probably about double what he sold it for back in the day, adjusted for inflation
James Reid is my 2nd paternal great grandfather. His daughter, Annie Jane Reid, is my great grandmother,
@xxheartbrokexx100
4 жыл бұрын
Marilyn E Wilson how cool! Thank you for sharing.
@hey9433
4 жыл бұрын
@Old Soul he died before he could finish the comment
@Redbird1504
4 жыл бұрын
@@hey9433 *She
@hey9433
4 жыл бұрын
@@Redbird1504 Okay...?
@cliffordcrimson7124
3 жыл бұрын
@@hey9433 what the hell are you trying to say?
if you plant them can you grow a full size pistol tree?
@elisorrells5314
Жыл бұрын
If you give it enough fertilizer it turns into an S&W500
Id love a modern reproduction of these. They seem neat
@Logan-zp8bi
3 жыл бұрын
Nfa item unfortunately, easily concealed within a suit pocket. You'd need to pay a 200$ tax, not to mention reproducing hand milled guns is a pain due to the modern legal requirements.
@Dies1r4e
3 жыл бұрын
@@Logan-zp8bi none of these would be an NFA items, they would be normal pistols. so no tax stamp, I own plenty of firearms that can be fit in a suit pocket that are not and own an FFL. I mill AK receivers for customers and its not -that- hard. I don't see these being any more difficult to make then your typical revolver. th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.ZGEKz6k99B5gevcgf4-pPgHaEv?pid=Api&rs=1 something like that above is not an NFA item, just give me a 380 or 9mm or 38 special revolver built like these with a duster style grip. would be very neat.
@paullytle1904
2 жыл бұрын
@@Dies1r4e no to mention the frame is likely a casting
@elisorrells5314
Жыл бұрын
@@Logan-zp8bi where in the NFA does it say you can’t make small, concealable handguns? Many smaller caliber revolvers and semi autos will fit unnoticed in a large suit jacket pocket, and they even make a .22 that is the size and shape of a large credit card
So it's entirely possible someone actually say, "Say hello to my little friend." Someone needs to make reproductions and modern cartridge variants.
These things are so cute! This video has been floating around my Recommended videos for ages, but I finally decided to watch it after viewing your James Reid Type 2 revolver video. Adorable! They look like baby guns. Just like how human babies have different proportions than adult humans. These little guys haven't grown their grips yet.
One thing I love about these videos is that they offer a sense of scale to weapons that are mostly seen in old reference books. For example, assuming that Ian is somewhere between 3'6" and 7'5" tall, these guns are larger than I would have guessed by just looking at a black and white picture that takes up the same amount of page as a Colt Walker. It's both nice and refreshing to have this added perspective. Thanks!
probably one of my fave vids from you, I like rare and less known guns and your effort you put in research, testing and presenting the whole beauty of both designs and functions keep up the good work and stay safe
Man I love your videos! I start every day with one and really appreciate your hard work. Keep up the good work and thank you
Wow thank you for commentary on such a wide variety of less known firearms~
It's kinda cool to have those posters with a bit of a hint at the previous owners or the magnitude of some of the collections that comes up for sale
First time I've heard of James Reid, quite happy to discover another Irish gun maker. Would love to see more featured in the future!
@marilynewilson5328
7 ай бұрын
There is a book about him written by Taylor G. Bowen
I love the look into the unique guns of the past, a part of gun history we ought not miss! Thanks.
This is always a fun way to start off the morning.
How cute! Pistol cubs!
The knuckle duster revolver looks damn cool. If I was a gunsmith I'd totally build one of those myself and sell it as a PDW.
I need one so I can finally have a friend. c,:
@mynameisntimportant9341
4 жыл бұрын
Ouch, felt that
@mikeoxlong1395
4 жыл бұрын
"I don't need friends. They disappoint me."
@rosestrohm7986
4 жыл бұрын
Trans rights!
@rosestrohm7986
4 жыл бұрын
@CMB Shotgunner ok stupid
@rosestrohm7986
4 жыл бұрын
@CMB Shotgunner got any evidence to support that bud? Literally every source I've come across says that you are *factually incorrect*
It's interesting that he was brought up in Glasgow. Cutthroat razors kept in pockets, taken out and used as knuckledusters, i e the back of the razor resting on the knuckles and used for punching, rather than slashing, were called "My wee Friend" or 'My wee brother.
I use to be a CMBT ENGR and i am now going to school for MECH ENGR. I'm going to pursue a career in weapons. You have inspired me. I like not having the opening theme, but I kind of miss it.
Cool, Sharon Stone had one of these in "The Quick and the Dead" when she was having dinner with Gene Hackman. I could never find exactly what it was.
@pffear
6 жыл бұрын
Paul Power I always wondered about that gun.... If it was just a made up Hollywood prop or something really used back in the day. Cool....
Still better than the Zip22
I love the look of these guns
One of these were on display at the august Oregon arms show last week
That's easily one of the coolest shirts I've seen
What a fascinating piece of history.
I will probably be joining dozens of others when I say; "Say hello to my little friend."
Really high quality interesting vids!
these are all epic little things, id definitely love to have the 22 version and the revolver variant. i know the revolver variant is a little unpractical compared to the pepper box designs, but it looks beautiful, and would probably work a little better for longer ranged shooting.
Hi Ian, what was the little metal nub below the cylinders? Thx. Cool guns.
@joshuaosburn9543
3 жыл бұрын
Safety bar. It offsets the cylinder and keeps it from revolving.
Interesting and scary! LOL Thanks for sharing them with us!
Those are neat. I'd like to have the .32 ACP version, but I'd want about a half-inch barrel coming from that hole.
Hey Ian, would you happen to know where in the Catskills these were made, I live in them and have never heard of this man. Thanks for the videos!
I'd like it more if you could've tell us if the cylinder turned when the hammer was cocked or if it was done manually?
I accidentally fast forwarded to the end of the video only to find him in the same position as before. I was slightly confused.
I may have missed it , but I didn't hear you refer to the safety notch between the cylinders.
excellent.every body should have one
Have there been any remakes or updated versions of the knuckle duster concept to use center Fire 22 short?
This is quite random, but is your heritage mainly scottish or irish? Just wanted to ask since seeing your full name in one of your seminar/class teaching videos. And thanks for the consistent quality uploads, I quite like these little pieces!
@ForgottenWeapons
8 жыл бұрын
+Blueswailer Scottish.
@Blueswailer
8 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons Cool, thank you for replying! Actually going to Edinburgh for the third time next month, heh.
@Blueswailer
8 жыл бұрын
adamunchy Well, I'm going to Edinburgh mainly to see my little sister, she's studying in a university there. Usually only see her around christmas otherwise, for a few days a year. And because I got the trip for free, basically I only pay for my drinks n' such sundries. Also just to partake in a kind of pub culture my country simply does not have on account of being a younger nation. Make no mistake, I don't spend my time on the Royal Mile gawking at bagpipers, even though I love celtic music(have since a kindergartener, though I'm a Finn). Of course in any country with a tourist market, the most touristy city is the capital usually. I have plans of visiting Glasgow as well, once I can start saving up for that journey. Actually I would love to visit the Outer Hebrides and Orkney Islands too just because that kind of unforgiving seascape and rugged landmasses appeal to me.
@CAMSLAYER13
8 жыл бұрын
+adamunchy don't forget the heroin
@Blueswailer
8 жыл бұрын
+adamunchy That does sound both easy and fast, which are things I always look for in public transit. Not to mention any time I use a train where I live, I only see gray tenements and factories or nothing but forests. Taking a train through the scottish moors and highlands sounds like a nice change. Actually me and my father talked about going to Glasgow last time we were in Ed., but we both enjoy museums, art galleries etc. of which there were plenty where we were situated so we didn't have time. I think a daytrip is in order this time around, I've wanted to check Glasgow out for a long time. Thanks for the tip!
thanks stay safe
Did i miss where you explain how to fire it?
You probably wont see this considering the video is pretty old, but that is one nice sweater man!
Would such a pistol fire modern .22 rimfire? Or would you have to hand reload or order custom ammunition?
@ludditeneaderthal
8 жыл бұрын
it would fire, and you could well be picking splinters of iron and brass out of your face, eyes, and hands. black powder ONLY, ever. a .22 flobert would probably be ok (very weak primer only charge round of the same vintage). the only powder loaded round would be a black powder .22 short (so probably kinda pricey, lol). this is, honestly, one of those arms you probably should NOT fire.
@Logan-zp8bi
3 жыл бұрын
@@ludditeneaderthal its not like you can legally use them anyway, due to conceal carry laws and NFA.
Saw one of these in the National Museum of Ireland in Dublin.
That's a very nice sweater. No joke.
Tactical sweater needs to come back this winter.
Is there any rifling in the extended cylinder?
have you ever shot those style or pistols Ian? and if so,what are they like
@ForgottenWeapons
8 жыл бұрын
+Christopher MacLennan No, I have not.
What is the lever that wraps from underneath to in front of the frame?
Now question, I've been a fan of these guns since I was a boy. I always wondered how someone didn't blow their groins off when they put it in their pocket?
Whats the safety on it? Just from looking I think its the bit on the bottom. Odd number of chambers so if that locks into a chamber, the hammer is pointed at the space between. I mean I hope there is a safety... Awesome video like always :)
@canceroushumor460
8 жыл бұрын
It's a single action, just rest the hammer on an empty hole in the cylinder
I think you should grasp the cylnder like a roll of quarters (a U.S $. 25 coin) and put your little finger into the hole and deliver blows on a downward arc. Try it with that grip at the next auction.
What is the small tab or notch in front of the trigger that the .22 and .41 have, but not the other twos?
very informative . Are they smooth bore ?
Ian, could these be safely carried with a full cylinder?
Interesting guns.
Isn't that the gun sharon stone pulled under the table on gene hackman under the tabke in the quick and the dead?
can you use modern ammo in the 22? are we talking about standard 22 short or 22lr?
Hey Ian, you mention they are rimfire, but the poster says they are percussion.....(I'm betting that you're right)
I own a 32 knuckle Duster in great shape!
It's like an Apache pistol that makes more sense. The Apache looks the shit, with the Kris bayonet and all, but think about it seriously. If you just drop the thing in your pocket, and you need it in a hurry it's going to come up with a great heap of keys and coins stuck in it and while you're picking that shit out of it the other guy's hit you over the head with a sock full of quarters and all you've done is conveniently locate your most desirous possession for him. This thing, though, it's just a little lump that's a lot less likely to get hopeless tangled with whatever else you have in your pocket. No matter how you take hold of it you have a weapon right away.
@assbread5950
8 жыл бұрын
+Lazarus Long : why would anyone keep a gun in the same pocket as ANYTHING else?
@honorb4glory606
8 жыл бұрын
+Ass Bread damn good point. I should probably stop carrying butter, glitter, and silly putty in the same pocket as my derringer.
@honorb4glory606
8 жыл бұрын
Or you could leave the hammer on an empty chamber, fool.
@honorb4glory606
8 жыл бұрын
I know what pinfire is, aren't the pins in recesses in the cylinder? It would be really hard to accidentally set those off. If the Apache is not designed this way, then that's just stupid.
@honorb4glory606
8 жыл бұрын
I just watched a video about the Apache. The pins ARE in recesses, and he said it was common to leave the hammer on an empty chamber when carrying it. Learn what you're talking about fool.
Never seen one with a bull-barrel. From a belly gun to a table gun. 😉 I remember holding one, and being surprised of the weight.
Cute little things. Why am I not surprised the inventor of these spent time in Belfast and Glasgow?
This may be a dumb question, but the cylinder rotates automatically as you fire it, right? Same as a normal revolver, just tiny?
Ian you look like a civil war soldier on this one!
maybe the longer barrel is for those who need more penetration , or for shooting from the hip at a certain distance and still leathal..?
those are NICE!!! would be cool to show off in the shooting club with one ( if it was legal here in denmark!)
hey can you do the sterling smg?
The actual "Say hello to my little friend" pistol
I like the look of the revolver. With a "real" handle, it would be a very neat little pistol
Okay, the pistol is pretty cool, but where do we find a sweater like that?
The .22 looks useful, even by modern standards. And you can still get ammo for it.
@D8W2P4
8 жыл бұрын
+Millwater Publishing As old as these are you'd have to use black powder .22.
@Tyrus2305
5 жыл бұрын
@@D8W2P4 this, or weak ammo. Otherwise the whole gun will fly around like a buckshot.
@D8W2P4
5 жыл бұрын
@@Tyrus2305 Pressure curve is too different for that to work. It's one of those things that you just don't even consider trying even if it technically could be done.
It would be interresting to see one being fired, is that possible Ian?.
It Must be in the next ASSASSIN'S CREED ))
What are those little protruding metal bits in front of the triggers of the .22 and .41?
@transdetendal
8 жыл бұрын
+Attila Rischt i belive cylinder locking for the chambers !
@attilarischt2851
8 жыл бұрын
I mean the little bits on the bottom of it. :D They seem kind of unnecessary
All these mini pistols sound like something you'd find at an XXX store
Hey! I live in Maine
Does the hammer rest on the cartridge like classic SAA's? If so punching someone with that while its loaded might be a bad idea lol
"Say Hello to my little friend!"…. I wonder if this is where that saying originated ?
@gabrielgarcia9822
5 жыл бұрын
ita from the movie scarface
@asdasd-ty9se
3 жыл бұрын
Immediately before firing an m203 40mm grenade launcher
One of his guns was used by Sharon Stone in the movie "The Quick and the Dead".
I can see these being a pretty good backup gun. Load it with six, have the hammer down on an empty chamber, and for a short range altercation you'd have 6 shots of .22.
@leonardotavaresdardenne9955
8 жыл бұрын
+Nukle0n Empty chamber with 6 shots? Also, this thing could give AMAZING fight material for a movie. Or an Animu/Mango :D
@Mutant1988
8 жыл бұрын
+leonardo tavares dardenne Yes. Empty with 6 loaded, because the .22 had 7 chambers (Or barrels technically, since they're pepper-box guns).
@leonardotavaresdardenne9955
8 жыл бұрын
Oh, I thought it had 6. Sorry!
Do a video on a old western day lever action . Even more points if it was used to rob banks
Interesting piece of firearms history. James Reid should have fluted all the cylinders to save weight. That might have led to higher production costs though. Back then people were confident that a .22 rimfire was okay self-defense. I'm not sure how people of that time arrived at that conclusion. Certainly the .32 rimfire was a better defensive round, at the cost of a heavier, larger My Friend. Aluminum had been discovered but its industrial application had yet to be realized. These little pocket revolvers would have greatly benefitted in weight savings by an aluminum frame and a fluted cylinder. In the end, the iconic and simple and inexpensive two, shot Derringer was all that most people needed for a pocket pistol.
Bar Girl Gun or Backup?
I always love a nifty little pocket gun!
He was born in Ireland and raised in Glasgow... yeah designing knuckle duster guns sounds about right. I guess headbutt guns weren't really possible.
I wonder what the original price was on one of those He sold $23,000 of them He probably made a pretty good penny.
Does anyone know the diameter of the cylinders?
I would’ve carried one as my NAA Pug and blackjack I carry today would be streamlined
Say hello to my little friend!
Would it suck worse to get hit by brass or iron?
I want that sweater
It is an odd shape for a knuckle duster, but i guess its a step up from bare hands. Interestingly enough, I found a pattern drawing where it's held upside down compared to the way Ian held it. www.american-firearms.com/american-firearms/z-patent/patent-R/Reid,%20James/51,752-drawing1.jpg Would be fun to see an old west styled video along the lines of the WW1 trench hand to hand video, trying things like this, apache revolvers and skullcracker grips (like the Merwin Hulbert ones).
I want the .32
Say hello to my little friend
Geez and to think in Canada I can't even keep a fixed blade knife in my pocket. The RCMP would have a fit if they saw these things...I still want though.
I bet it would be fun to play Dungeons and Dragons with Ian lol
“Say hello to My Friend”
Anybody have a rough idea of "muzzle velocity" if you could call it that?.
@JohnLeePedimore
8 жыл бұрын
+Keith Hawkins Original black powder .22 rimfires made about 800 fps or less in a rifle,the knuckleduster was probably around 500fps-600fps with original ammo.
@keithhawkins653
8 жыл бұрын
+JohnLeePedimore awesome thanks for the info.
I feel like the revolver would be a little more reliable, possibly safer. Its the one i'd want anyways. Would work in a coat pocket
I'd love to buy this guy lunch and just talk guns!