To everyone that gets this jet watch your elevator hing points by the control arms i had mine depart on both sides after just a few mild flights on it. There is alot of stress in that area for a pinched hinge arrangement so either install some nylon hinges or reinforce them with which ever method you prefer. Fantastic jet and is way better than i expected it to be.

Love how you went crazy full bore after you removed the gear! Those front flips made the jet almost look like a 3D plane! The trees definitely add to the excitement. Was on the edge of my seat watching those manoeuvres. Sick video Jon! And kudos to wifey filming and keeping up with the jet with you flying crazy.

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

Haha, thanks man! Happy to hear you're enjoying what we do.

@ 18:18 - NICE CATCH!!!! Love this plane, and FMS did a nice job!

Fun Jet, and I KNEW you would set it up to high alpha like a big dog! Nice!

@AL-RCjunkie

2 ай бұрын

Adam! What up?!? 😊👍

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

Always!

Hilariously fun little F-16!! Good stuff FMS Great flying Jon. I hope FMS gives the 64mm F-15 rudder control.

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

That would be fantastic if they did!

I love watching reviewers have fun while running these rc planes through their paces. Thanks, Jon and Jon's wife for some fun flight footage 👍

I just gotta say after my last comment.... bro.. I just strive to be a pilot like u! #amazing

I really know nothing about rc planes but I've become obsessed. I really want to get in to it. I've looked at a bunch of little beginner planes to get and they are on my christmas list 😊 I'm a long way off from flying any EDF jets but that's what I'm striving for. I want to be able to so exactly what u just did with this awesome F16 ❤ Thanks for the vid!

I bought this on your recommendation, no gyro, no wheels, rear c of g, maxed out elevator & omg! I was expecting good but it’s such great fun, even the sound is fantastic. Low high alpha across the strip and as i go past myself turn away and nail the throttle & it howls beautifully. Love it. It hand launches hands free so ditch those wheels.

@TwoBrosRC

Ай бұрын

Happy to hear that! It definitely benefits from a gyro the further back you move the CG - but if you're enjoying it without one, keep at it!

Didn't think I'd be buying another 64mm 4s jet but I think Im gonna have to get this one. It looks pretty dang cool!

Wow I was waiting for this since a friend has the small Freewing and she flies great, looking forward for this video :))

good quality review!! thanks!! Well Done!

You know it's a good jet when Jon starts yelling 😅 good stuff man

I dove headfirst into this hobby because of you, starting with the F-35, setting it up and rewiring it just like you did. Sure, I crashed when I attempted some wild maneuvers, but I've rebuilt the jet, and now I can't get enough of flying. What isn't often mentioned is the challenge of using OpenTX (TX16s) compared to Spektrum. I've toughened up by teaching myself, and it's been intense. I thoroughly enjoy mixing, linking throttle gains and gear. It's tough to match what you do. But after nearly a month in this hobby, I feel like I'm hooked for life. I was considering the Freewing F-16 to complement my F-35, but the lighting on this one might just tip the scales. However, I'm not a fan of the vertical stabilizer's construction.

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

You should totally hop on Discord with us, man! bit.ly/TBRCDiscord - we'd love to see vids of you pushing yourself. That said, the vstab on this jet isn't ideal, but most jets at this size require you to glue in the stabilizer. Not a fan of it, but physical realities of scale model construction will always take precedence over what we personally prefer.

@biggnasty989

2 ай бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC Joined!

@tonyyimbo

2 ай бұрын

Same here , it was the slow shorts of high alphas over water

@biggnasty989

2 ай бұрын

@@tonyyimbo This guy could sell an ice cube to an Eskimo. I was on the fence for over a decade, and took the leap watching his F35 videos.

Heck yea! looking forward to getting my first Scaleish Jet!

Oh so close to ordering one but got way too many planes already. Greatest review out there by far. Love your work and top marks to your camera lady. Stew J.

@TwoBrosRC

Ай бұрын

Good thing it's small and can be disassembled into storage pretty easily!

Great review Jon! You are my go to these days for reviews keep up the great content!

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

Happy to hear that, Erik!

I really wish I had more RC flying experience to fly this. I'm still learning with my Ranger.

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

You'll get there!

Cool looking jet!😊

@ 3:03 - AWESOME!!!

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

Right?

Ordered one!

Awesome flying! I have the 70 eflite and its probably my favorite jet. I definitely can't make it do what you did with the 64.

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

Sure you can! It's just practice. 👀

Wow

I need one !

Crazy!

Super video and review! I already ordered mine last week also in this sheme to be more colorfull. I also don´t like that plain white foam. It looks too cheap, so I was about to get the gray one. But the eagle on the bottom looks nice. Super cool watching the differences between with and w/o landing gear. As we have grass I´ll go without. It will be my F-16 training model so I think I´ll get the ventral fins off also. Is that OK? I would have flown without gyro but I´ll better put one reflex V3 I have sitting for weeks better. Or an AR631 that I would need to configure and I haven´t done that yet. Super and thanks!!

@TwoBrosRC

Ай бұрын

We landed it several times with gear removed, definitely had no issues with the ventral fins - just don't slam it into the ground and it should be totally OK! The AR631 is a better choice. Hop on Discord with us via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord and ask for help with setting it up in #tech-and-setup!

HAHA YESS I NEED IT

Grass landings are out of the question then?

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

With wheels, probably, unless it's very manicured grass. Did you miss the grass belly landing?

You should review the free wing L-15/J-10 64mm 6s, I own one and it is my favorite model near 1:1 twr and can do a lot of stunts it is a great jet, I would love to see a review over it from you.

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

When we've got money to spend on it, sure, that'll be something to consider!

Wow John. Thats an amazing jet for the price. Incredibly agile, of course piloted by you. Doe this run the new v3 reflex gyro, as i am not that familiar with forward programming the AR630.. cheers

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

Ours didn't come with Reflex. Our community can help you learn how to program a receiver if you'd like to join our Discord server! bit.ly/TBRCDiscord

@kianwong4625

Ай бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC thanks ill take a look -great review -I’m very tempted to buy.

Great review, one question: how do you get your pack voltage on the main screen of the ix-20?

@TwoBrosRC

Ай бұрын

It's easier to ask on Discord via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord - pop that question in the #tech-and-setup channel!

Great video of a lovely little jet! Thanks for the brilliant review! I'm wondering about how long the flight time with a standard 4s 2200mAh pack would be. If I understood it correctly you used a 2400mAh HV pack and got up to 5:41 minutes out of it, which is incredible! I'm tempted to get a gray one 😅 Unfortunately HV packs are quite tricky to get over here. Cheers Jannick

@TwoBrosRC

Ай бұрын

Hey man! You'd probably get close to four minutes.

@Fridolin23

Ай бұрын

Sounds good to me! Thanks a lot Jon

Hi John! Two questions. First is this as easy as rafale 64mm to high alpha? Also for longer weedy grass is there more to dig in/damage on belly landings?

@TwoBrosRC

Ай бұрын

Yes, and the nose cone and wingtip rails will be the most likely damage scenarios if you're trying to land with wheels on grass.

@17:22 Would you really give the landing gear a 4/5? I was thinking you would have put it at a 2/5 the way you showed it in the beginning

@TwoBrosRC

Ай бұрын

Gotta go by the metrics, not personal feelings about how loud something is. The Landing Gear chapter explains why it got the score it did.

Is it possible to install the reflex v2 or reflex v3 gyro in this one? I mean is there already this plane available in the v2 software or the v3 app? Thank u!

@TwoBrosRC

Ай бұрын

It's possible, but we don't use Reflex - can't help ya there.

Hello there! Love the video. May i know what is the materials of the plane used? Is it plastic or styrofoam or different kind of foam?

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

It's EPO foam.

@kyurise6685

2 ай бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC the whole chasis including the fuselage and wings? Alright thanks !

Do you think you can fit the 64mm Free 6s setup in this F-16? W/ a 1800 6s battery.

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

No idea, but probably. Though that would come at the consequence of nose heaviness and added wing loading. Not really our style, but most likely something you could do.

I have been flying the arrows 50mm bae hawk jet, and practicing jets on the simulator. Im torn between the fms 70mm viper/ fms 64mm f-16 and the fms 80mm BAE hawk? Any thoughts for best fun and ease of flight? Cheers John.

@TwoBrosRC

Ай бұрын

The FMS Viper 70 is a solid choice for a trainer jet - not a beginner jet. It'll teach you how to fly: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aoSurZKYZ9vFnLQ.html

@kianwong4625

Ай бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC thanks john - your videos are so much fun to view.

Would you say this is pretty similar to the fms F16 70mm for half the price? Which one would you recommend?

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

It's basically the same jet sans retractable gear and 4s compatibility.

Discount code didn’t work at checkout but all good! I am excited to get this plane either way!

@TwoBrosRC

2 күн бұрын

That's unfortunate. We'll need to get with FMS and figure out what's going on there. Appreciate ya supporting us!

@VinnyM.92

Күн бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC no worries at all, thanks for a great review/video

Great video Jon!! Where is your CG at?

@TwoBrosRC

Ай бұрын

Isn't it demoed in the vid? It should be!

@nirlachman007

Ай бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC yup, it is :) I mean mm wise but never mind I’ll can get to it from the video 😉

@TwoBrosRC

Ай бұрын

Sorry yeah, we generally don't use a ruler for that!

I think I'm going to get one and toss my freewing 6s setup in it.

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

Be wary of 6 cell setups on jets designed for 4 cell weight - it won't be as forgiving in stalls, and it'll get into stalls at higher airspeeds than a 4 cell setup will. You'll certainly get more thrust, but it comes at the cost of aerodynamic performance.

Try to find a 64mm with thrust vectoring.

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

That'd be super sweet.

i wonder if the 70mm 6s will fly the same if i take the retracts off XD

@TwoBrosRC

Ай бұрын

Might be similar!

How many years have you been flying?

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

Since August of 2020.

What wheels do you suggest for this to be perfect ?

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

The E-flite Viper 70mm wheels mentioned in the vid will be a drop-in replacement: alnk.to/6IF4kna

I wish it had full size elevators

@TwoBrosRC

Ай бұрын

Full flying stabilators would be quite nice.

What receiver are you using?

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

It's under "Equipment used" in the description!

Yes, the landing noise in electric planes is almost unbearable

The codes not working!! Ahhhh

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, that's on us. Jon forgot that the 5% off code only works after a new model has been out for a bit. FMS changed the way the codes worked a couple of times and threw us for a loop. Sorry about that!

The discount code does not work.

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

Yeah we totally forgot that it doesn't work for new releases. It will eventually work. Sorry, our bad on that one. 😢

I don't mind unpainted foam. Paint is HEAVY...and every gram matters with RC Jets. Would you cut your battery size in half for white paint? I would NOT.

@TwoBrosRC

Ай бұрын

Paint isn't so heavy that a battery reduction would be needed.

@rungy8214

Ай бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC ok so then give this plane a 10 out of 5 for agility, because you gave 5 to another plane that is not in the neighborhood of this remarkable jet! John, seriously...you have the BEST RC reviews/footage ! Subscribed and lovin' ALL of it!

Why are you flying with a gyro, good airplanes and experts don't need a gyro 😂

@TwoBrosRC

2 ай бұрын

Not sure if serious.

@biggnasty989

2 ай бұрын

A gyro will have someone like me who's been in the hobby for less than a month do things that you would maybe end up crashing doing with the aft CG. I don't have a reputation to maintain here, so I'm going to tell it like it is. Nobody cares if Mr Old and Crusty (YOU) flies with or without a gyro. You asked for the smoke bro, I mean Old and Crusty.

@SMModels1200

2 ай бұрын

Ok, sure I understand. I know why the gyro manufacturers offer this. The point is that any test of a model with a gyro is strongly influenced by the actual gyro and is not completely objective. What the model itself really is. The test tells mainly about the quality and settings of the gyro.

@windscreenrepairmanrich5528

Ай бұрын

Jon I now fly on my own because most of 'The flying clubs here in the uk have at least one old crusty that ruins the fun and gyro technology.

Re-watching this vid 10 times a day for the past two weeks. In Top Gun 2 Phoenix said it's not the plane it's the pilot. In this vid it is the plane AND the pilot. I have searched all over you-tube and NEVER found more aggressive high speed maneuvering than in this vid. The F22 might turn sharper, but sacrifices all of its energy (not at this speed) I want a follow up that demos Flat Scissors, Rolling Scissors, High Yo Yo, Low Yo Yo, Lag Rolls, Barrel Rolls, Splits, Slice Backs, Pitch Backs, and Descending Spirals as seen here... kzread.info/head/PLnyigzFtHeNr9zTkpxyD0ksFD3CwLa2UE

@TwoBrosRC

Ай бұрын

No way you're watching us that much! That's awesome, man. Happy to hear you're enjoying the content!

@rungy8214

Ай бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC 9:30 to 15:20...Holy F... RC 4Ever? Slow floaty cheezwiz...as are sooo many others....call me a liar! There are no vids on youtube that are even close...like Wes F16 is not even close. Seriously SEARCH...you will not find. 999 out of 1000 others..."Hey, watch me fly in a straight line a billion feet in the air! Tee hee hee!"

@rungy8214

Ай бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC you're turn rates are matched up and slightly faster than Markus Rummer AKA "Dr. Low" kzread.info/dash/bejne/holkuc-nd6mxXdY.html