Man this is what I’ve been looking for. Despite Classic being “solved” It’s hard finding high quality, well researched guides specifically for Classic Era. So many guides are 3+ years old, using knowledge from private servers, and/or regurgitate WoW Head’s guide.

@server1ok

11 ай бұрын

Solved my ass, it's the 1.12 patch that's well researched but not solved. Have you heard about spell power rogues out dpsing physical damage rogues ? Have you checked the patches before 1.12 when proc items were buffed by spell power ? Have you seen a spell power hunter crit with + 1 k arcane shots every 5 sec on the 1.12 client ( while wearing full T 1 set ) ? You haven't seen shit my man. Sadly. Blame the streamers and blame the fixation on the last patch of Vanilla when everything was normalized

Around 220 spirit rn at level 46. Getting around 800 crits with smite. Absolutely blasting, thank you for this!

@n3phalem754

4 ай бұрын

You dont have 800crit LOL

@PhalanxR

2 ай бұрын

@@n3phalem754 My spriest with 160sp gets 900 mind blasts. 800 is totally doable with the spell power granted by spirit tap and his passive spirit.

@neverbeen5691

17 күн бұрын

He might mean 800 damage when its crit ​@@n3phalem754

This is so well put together and easy to understand! It looks like a lot of work but I hope you plan on putting similar guides out for other classes.

Amazing guide, and very professional presentation style-love it!

this really has what other videos are missing, really appreciate the detail and actual useful information. would love to see other classes, would help a bit for sod but also a lot for ssf hardcore

Sweet thanks for the guide! I'm 41 first HC attempt. Most other guides out there have 1 or 2 things that I'm not sure about, but this one really nails it.

Great guide! Recently discovered, and am really enjoying playing Classic Era Priest. Lots of helpful info!

Thank you very much for this guide. Always looking for real priest analysis and not following the masses without good thinking ! I am definitely will follow those advices for my level 20 priest on my hardcore journey.

Thanks man for this guide. I have been playing priest since wow launched. I still heard a lot from you. Especially on spirit tap. Thanks for explaining that

Amazing guide! If you make ANY more for any of them I'm subscribed now! Can't wait! I'm currently a Hardcore enjoyer and this one really spelt it out!

gonna be maining priest in hardcore and this is an amazing guide im gonna refer back to, thank you for your hard work good sir

gameplay visual was exactly what I was looking for to compare leveling holy/shadow, thanks!

I don't even play priest but this is an incredible guide. I think I'll level up my dwarf priest now

I really hope there are more guildes coming! well put together.

Very interesting! Really great to just see the raw numbers and honestly im sold on leveling Holy i do want to be healing while not just soloing because i love dungeons

Thanks so much! A few years back I had a 60 rogue already on the hardcore addon. I can't wait to start with teh priest on official hardcore! I do really love the rules the addon has set so I keep that going on official. No trading, no duo or grouping and no checking the inbox for fanmail!

Amazing video 🎉 you have put so mich effort into it. I really appreciate it

Very good guide. Most guides just show going straight shadow from the get go (minus wand spec). I’m leveling disc to 40 or 44 then going shadow just like you laid out. Perfect

very nicely laid out, much appreciate it.

Great guide - I leveled as holy in OG classic and absolutely destroyed as a healer in dungeons and solo dps. Glad to see that possibility highlighted here.

Great guide and very well explained. Thank you

Quality guide. I like that u broke down the math too! Thanks!

Really high quality guide, thanks!

An actual decent guide for Priest, nice work man!

Great guide. Makes me want to play priest for official HC.

Great video, would love to see other guides for other classes or endgame content

Nice video ! Love the level of detail 🤓

16:51 There are some great farming spots for horde wands. The sailors from the keep, burning blade, trolls on the island, and quilboars. And if you’re undead the scarlet crusade and farmers will give you a ton of cloth. I usually go from the orc/troll area to trisfal at level 10. Do the quests there and pick up the RFC/WC quests before heading back. You want that crescent staff.

So is your general advice to level with the discipline spec until 40 and then respec as holy or shadow?

Such an amazing guide, level 53 hitting 900 smites after spirit tap, just crazy dmg

Thanks for the guide, it was really nice that you got into some Details most guide don't. Only one thing I've noticed in your gameplay video: You should really use nameplates with debuffs on it, especially if you're in instances it's so much more helpful.

I really like the PowerPoint types of guides like yours. It reminds me of Kargoz' original guides made for classic. Unfortunately they're not available anymore and yours is a lot more technically advanced. Keep it up! Do you plan to do them for every class?

@tekn0de

11 ай бұрын

I only made this because I play a priest on era, and didn't like the state of priest guides. No plans to make more but maybe

@Jkg71

11 ай бұрын

​@tekn0de you should consider it. Theirs definitely a void left by kargoz. Plus the classic community is still alive.

@jeremykothe2847

9 ай бұрын

Did Kargoz delete his due to the drama?

@Jkg71

9 ай бұрын

@@jeremykothe2847 yeah sadly

Also if you're holy/disc, you can double up as a really good healer. That versatility for getting groups is super important

Great guide! Its not to bad to get the linen for troll starting zone. You can farm sailors, trolls and the boar people (name? lol). Though if you're in the zerg they get farmed out quickly

thank you for this video. would like more priest specific content

Amazing video, thank you!

Absolutely incredible guide, I appreciated watching it a lot! I'm not a Priest main myself, and I havn't noticed the fantastic synergy between Spirit Tap and Spiritual Guidance before, nice! In hindsight it feels so obvious!!! Spirit Tap affecting Power Word:Shield is interesting. I didn't consider that, but it makes sense, too bad the spell power coefficient is so bad, but it is something! Your segment about spell power coefficients is a little misleadning. When you compare the spell power coefficients you need to take the cast time into consideration... The real reason for Smite having such a good spell power coefficient comes from the fact that you can reduce the cast time with the talent Divine Fury, without affecting the spell power coefficient negatively! Without Divine Fury or Improved Fireball, the spell power coefficient per time spent casting is exactly the same for Smite, Mind Blast, and Fireball... Mind Flay almost has the same spell power coefficient, but receives a 5% coefficient penalty for having a slow debuff. Holy Fire is a different story I think. You say that it has 100% spell power coefficient, which I believe is incorrect! Spells that have a Direct component as well as a DoT component are strange... According to my knowledge of spell power coefficients a 3.5 second cast with a 10 second DoT would have a spell power coefficient of: (3.5/3.5)^2/(3.5/3.5+10/15) + (10/15)^2/(3.5/3.5+10/15) ~= 87% This is significantly worse per cast time than Smite, but maybe it has good base damage instead! Cheers!

Really great guide, thanks! Just hit 40 on my first HC attempt, and decided to respec Shadow. For gearing since we +sp doesn't scale as well as Holy, do we have any guidance on how much more we should value +spirit gear over +sp? I don't have much +sp gear and wondering if I should be dropping some +spirit to get some.

best priest guide out there thanks a lot man

Well done mate. good guide

finally a good priest guide, thank you

You would be able to sustain better overall kill rate by smiting once less and applying pain during a longer wand phase. You can get very good regen during the wand phase and a very low drink rate that allows you to keep killing.

W guide, thank you! (:

This might be a useful guide if I decide to play Hardcore - since I'll probably be playing Priest (never really played one before, want to do something different).

Hey appreciate the video insanly good guide i wanted to ask aboth a rotation brfore we get holy fire(lv20) and after we get mindblast at (10).Probably a dumb question but im kinda new to priest.

Is disci or holy better for group in Hardcore? I only want to heal my friend and we play hardcore only together.

Does anyone know what addon you use for that health bar, new to addons..

So which one do u suggest? I’m hesitating to change shadow talent. But I’m do healer in dungeon most of the time.

As 39-40 Holy, do you lose much dropping the 5 wand spec points? obviously you will chuck one in immediately each level but will smite carry enough only having like 1 point in wand? and as HC primarily solo levelling would it be better to go for the mitigation points in holy instead of the healing? i feel like 2 points in renew, 1-2 points in imp healing and healing focus is kinda useless as at the point where you have to attempt healing yourself you probably should start running/leashing instead, and having 5 points in spell warding might be a bit better to save getting 1 shot by caster damage. Btw i 100% understand the synergy of having those heal points when healing dungos, not that priests really need it, but as a straight up solo leveler is spell warding good?

Man.... now I wanna level as holy. Gonna be a death or two before I get a grip. Though, would it be excusable to go straight for the holy tree right after imp wanding and spirit tap at level 20, for leveling from 20-39?

Is there a non-hardcore classic server thats still playable? I really wanna play classic again but idk where to go

can't I go Disc all the way up to 60? is Holy that much better in comparison ?

Thank you for that well made Video. For no particular reason i level my Priest as full Diszi at the moment. I just Dinged lvl 32. You got any Words on Diszi? In Comparison to Holy and Shadow? Ups and Downs and so on? Thank you very mutch!

Can you dungeon heal fine with this build? Even at 60 for end game dungeons ?

Great guide, love it! With Hardcore Reals coming on 24th August, any plans to add a second part with tips for Hardcore players?

Do we not use mind blast? Also you got any info for levelling a priest in turtle wow?

Is it possible to heal lvl 60dungeons/raids with this holy spec? i'm asking this because i also want to have spirit tap to farm things by my own at 60.

Can you make one for druid class please?

Bro I think I went to middle school with you lol. Osceola? If not my bad. Good video. Doing duo hardcore with a friend and this is going to change my build completely. I was pretty much going full discipline cuz shields are fun

@tekn0de

Жыл бұрын

Dm me, if that's even possible on youtube (not sure)

If leveling as Holy, would you use Hypnotic Blade + Orb of the Forgotten Seer over using the Orb of the Forgotten Seer?

Good shit bro. 10/10

Playing my first Priest and playing classic. I have a question. Why is my Discipline Talent tree different than what you are showing? I have no Wand option. I have Twin Disciplines instead.

This guide is 100% gooooood 🤟

Does anyone know what addon/setting is he using for UI ? love it :) content creator if you see this thank you for the guide

you forgot the nelf racial jumping flips which puts them at S+ tier

Can you do something like this for warrior?

I leveled two priests strictly as discipline, really enjoyed that spec.

A disc smite priest its viable on classic?

Addon for that nice hp look in game ?

At 19:37 you stun the mob with Blackout talent, but no where in your guide you pick that talent. May i ask why and should i use blackout or no, but if i do i guess some other changes must be done too? Please reply Otherwise i love your guide ty a lot.

Is it generally always better to forgo bonus healing and damage over pure spirit? So one glove might give 4 spirit and 14 heal and dmg and another might hive 10-15 spirit but no heal and damage. What would be better? I am talking about the holy leveling with smite spam and spirit tap.

@tekn0de

11 ай бұрын

In that example it would likely be the damage but it's not an obvious answer because things usually die in x spells casts+wand globals and a 1% damage increase may not impact the number of globals. In practice it tends to be quite obvious while leveling if something is an upgrade

Great video

Best HC priest guide

very good guide.

Hey man, do you reckon when you respec holy at 39 to rush straight down and get 5/5 Spiritual Guidance and then pick up 5/5 Spirit tap and THEN going down the rest of the Disc tree? Or would you pick up Spiritual Guidance later and get Wand Spec talents?

@Calx9

4 ай бұрын

That was my question. Couldn't find an answer so I just went with my gut. I took the disc and shadow talents first for safety.

great guide

anyone know what the addon that displays your shield amount is called? i cant find it on curse forge

@Mrratmain

10 ай бұрын

its a weakaura

Top tier content, liked and sub'd. So basically Horde gets shafted in the Priest department, because they can't roll Dwarf...

Can I ask your opinions on what to focus on/ to consider when wanting to do some dungeons in hardcore? What’s a good safe hybrid for that? Thanks for the guide buddy!

@Calx9

4 ай бұрын

He said holy if you want to do dungeons and level efficiently.

Is fear ward really that useful in PvE? Ive always preferred humans for leveling classic priests for the 5% bonus spirit (also the bonus rep for exalted but thats not relevant to leveling as a priest)

@olaeret123

11 ай бұрын

Lots of raidbosses that fear :) But for levling i dont think its that huge no.

What spec is best to level in if you on era and A LOT of world pvp are going on while leveling ? Also considering how many Undeads are on Horde side with WOTF wouldn't over all Horde be the better side for Priest if you consider world pvp and random bgs ? Since you dont have to face 90% population Undeads with WOTF? Or are Dwarf that much better then the other races so even if undeads are all over it still makes Dwarf better then horde side?

@tekn0de

9 ай бұрын

If you could play dwarf on horde it would be the best pvp race. In terms of solo wpvp which is best, it may be UD just because of DP and the amount of healing it does, but it loses to dwarf in the 1v1 because dwarfs can stone form the DP and DP is an insane amount of mana for what it does.

Can we get more class guides? Druid would be great.

Nice guide the only thing I didn’t agree with that you went over briefly was the PvP racials. If you’re Horde Troll is arguably better than Undead for Spriest in PvP. Blackout + Shadowguard is incredibly strong and helps you against every class and you only need Rank 1 Hex for the 20% MS. As far as Wotf you already shit on warriors and Warlocks are disproportionately unpopular. It does help you vs other Priest though, but so does Shadowguard+Blackout and 20% MS. You don’t actually need the fear break as often as it seems. Devouring Plague can be strong, but being a disease is easily dispelled.

@Spyro-

8 ай бұрын

Shadowguard's pushback is juicy too.

Why no inspiration talents?

I just can't help but get Blackout every time. Those clutch moments in Wpvp.

Dude this was such a huge help! Thank you

Please make a Hunter video. Great video bro.

Maybe a touch late but for an interesting thought experiment, considering the spell damage you gain from spiritual guidance, how mana efficient is star shards for damage to follow up holy fire if you pre-shield to block spell pushback for the channel.

@tekn0de

9 ай бұрын

Starshards scales at 100% but it is very slow to get that 100%. You deal more damage with smites but it's more mana efficient than smite. It also can't crit. You're better off smiting, but it is good kick bait if a mob kicks

for pve is healing power always better than spirit on gear for holy?

@Calx9

4 ай бұрын

A bit of common sense for that question. You probably need the spirit more so for the leveling. That way your regen, dmg, and healing all get a increase. You aren't focusing on healing for dungeon, if you are then go for it.

is disc not viable?

Complete noob to priest and I wanna go holy, but how do I build the holy build you shown here from lvl 10 onwards? For instance do I go wand then spirit tap before I jump into the holy tree?

@emiliomorales9731

10 ай бұрын

i would cause wand/spirit tap is a priests bread and butter

@Lothnar5070

10 ай бұрын

@@emiliomorales9731 Thanks dude :)

Should I bring going for stam/int? Or int/spirit?

@tekn0de

8 ай бұрын

Spirit/spirit

Can I ask what addons you use? I love your UI! would love to know how I can replicate that before servers launch. Great video !

@tekn0de

9 ай бұрын

Shadow UF and Bartender are 90% of that ui

Holy vs. Shadow in the spirit of Hardcore?

I wish you would show what talents should be taken in what order. I want to run holy leveling 40-60, unsure which talents to take first. whether to start by finishing the disc side or doing that last.

@tekn0de

11 ай бұрын

Click on the ppt in the description. Has a link to the talent order

@ItsBarnabyJones

4 ай бұрын

it only shows the talent order from 1-40, not 40-60 from what i can see. Also, why do you not take inspiration? I thought renew wasn't that good.@@tekn0de

While leveling can i still heal in dungeons normally even with shadow spec?

@Calx9

4 ай бұрын

Yes. You're just not gonna be as good as a dic or holy priest though.

Mind blown

should probably include the PWS talent in the disc tree as Key, since that's what lets your mp5 work while levelling

So I’ve read multiple things stating shadowform DOES NOT increase shadow WAND damage - Can anyone please confirm or deny whether shadowform increases shadow wand damage?

@tekn0de

10 ай бұрын

It does. I've verified it on era

@DylanoTheMage

10 ай бұрын

@@tekn0de thank you for the response. Currently leading horde priest NA - can you confirm this? Does SP / Shadow damage increase shadow wand damage or strictly shadow form and weaving?

hey is this still current ? im currently level 31 and struggling to level

@probablywrong8538

9 ай бұрын

Yes bro even at 31 you’re main dmg is wand you probably still have bfd wand