Extra rankings since everyone is asking for them: F/E Units: B Tier (classic design, but I still prefer the look of others) GG1: B Tier (another classic design, Amtrak paint looks kinda meh on them) FL9: A Tier (again, classic locomotive design but Amtrak paint actually looks really nice on them) Thanks for watching the video! What do you think of my list and how would you rank all of these locomotives seen here? Also sorry if my commentary sounds a bit repetitive, I'm not the best with unscripted content, but I wanted to try it out here. Hopefully I'll get better with it in the future.

@elevatorfan1559

Жыл бұрын

I agree

@jacksonwong8748

Жыл бұрын

You said the S word

@jacksonwong8748

Жыл бұрын

At 14:15 you said the S word

@Robloxity_News

Жыл бұрын

Did pretty good. Agreed with the decision to make a separate tier for the talgo.

@SomeRamdomAhole

Жыл бұрын

this list is ass imagine rating rolling stock that's not in revenue service and a locomotive that was barely a year on the roster.... and the P30CH in A tier? your opinions are shit

Finally, the Amtrak guy makes an Amtrak tier list. Also, the reason the Avelia Liberty coaches don't align with the coaches is that when they tilt, they align with one of the two sides. They couldn't include the tilting tech in the power cars because it would make them too heavy. It grinds my gears too, but it's a design choice that even the acela 1s have if you look closely.

@Spike-xk3kt

Жыл бұрын

They don’t look the same because the power car is an off the shelf product, it’s the same power car they use on the TGVM’s

@banksrail

Жыл бұрын

As the previous comment said. It’s because the power car is completely off the self. France has a smaller loading gauge than the US, so when the power cars are matched up with American sized cars, they don’t match up. Horrible design choices IMO.

@TheWoblinGoblin

Жыл бұрын

I also want to tell you all the fact that the power cars are off the shelf. aaaahhhhh that felt goooof

@harrisonallen651

Жыл бұрын

His career is complete

@thedemolitionmuniciple

8 ай бұрын

7 months is a good length of time for another person who no one asked to let you know that they were off the shelf Whether it's that or to line up on curves, it still ain't look right.

Man, Amtrakguy went it all out on the Talgo 😂

@veronicaboziere3678

3 ай бұрын

No wonder 😂

This is where the fun begins

@雪者

Жыл бұрын

Very tru

@Keystone1906_Productions

Жыл бұрын

14:09 made me laugh with what he said about the “Talgo series 8 cab car” and called it ugly

I’d bump the Dash 8’s to S (I have a Railking model of one and we had a couple here in Orlando at one point) and the turbocharger to A/B, but that’s about it. All your S tier choices especially make perfect sense. They ARE the locomotives of Amtrak.

@ILikeGod777

Жыл бұрын

I think he doesnt like them i agree with you tho

I totally agree with the SDP40F placement, I too love the little smiles they have.

@adventuresofamtrakcascades301

10 ай бұрын

I find it hilarious that you they still smiled regardless of how many times they derailed

Pretty good tier list of all of these Amtrak locomotives. I think all of them are beautiful. On going. Pretty good engines out there even though it’s a shame some of them are scrapped, mainly the GE P30CH. Happy St. Patrick’s Day, AmtrakGuy365.

I freaking love the F40PH, I've always liked '70s and '80s stuff to begin with, but the F40PH is literally the epitome of that. I even see the "NPCU Cabbage Car" in the Cascades too!

@liamweaver2944

8 ай бұрын

I agree. The NPCU Cabbage car is also used on the Downeaster route running from Boston North Station to Brunswick, Maine.

it's really interesting to see other railfan's opinions in this regard, my list would be completely different and yet I still enjoy seeing your list and hearing your reasons for your placements.

The Talgo part made me laugh so hard 😂 Edit: Guys, stop arguing about words! So what if he used swear words? And so what if someone dislikes the use of swear words? I will say that I did not expect the word 'shit' to be used many times in this video, but that doesn't mean you have to feel entitled to mock those who dislike them! Edit 2: Are you seriously going to stop watching someone's videos just because of a word.. Edit 3: OH MY GOD THEY'RE JUST WORDS STOP FIGHTING

@Apoptart

Жыл бұрын

Same it made me laugh soooooooo hard I almost Choked lmao

@joeykidd8916

Жыл бұрын

@@TWF1003 boo hoo go tell the teacher

@boltobsessedmaniac

Жыл бұрын

It's so accurate It looks like a car.

@confusedshovel1232

Жыл бұрын

@@TWF1003 fuck

@csx8076

Жыл бұрын

@@TWF1003 Shiver Me Timbers

14:10 yep, looks like those Talgo's got hit by the ugly stick a few thousand times.

More tier lists please, this was a great watch

Well done and nearly concur with just about them all! Great little fun video. BTW, not harsh enough on the Talgo and Liberties (those horns; uggh!).

Good video I agree with you about the p30ch and aem-7 Thanks for making this!

I have been waiting for this one.

In Germany we have a joke within the railfan community. The company name is the abbreviation for "Sicher ist eins, man erhält nur Schrott" (English: One for sure - all you get is scrap). Seems it applies to their US products as well.

I love the great Nintendo game songs You add in the background. You are ASS LOADS of awesome!

Well this is the first. This is actually really cool I would like to see more in the future.

AEM7: *retires The Railfan community: “A sad anime death”

I actually really like SC44 chargers, especially with that dark-blue livery. Maybe it's just that so many of my trips behind Genesis engines have been on the Texas Eagle, which is naturally prone to breakdowns, so I've always been eager to see what comes next in efficiency and reliability. Since my region- upper midwest- isn't likely to get high-speeders any decade soon, the charger is basically the only game in town for us other than the genesis. Fingers crossed for the Northern Lights Express.

@LongIslandRailfanner

Жыл бұрын

......... *Are you okay?*

@elisekehle8520

Жыл бұрын

@@LongIslandRailfanner Yes. Why?

@TrainStreet

10 ай бұрын

@@LongIslandRailfanner the sc44 is better than the alc42 though

@LongIslandRailfanner

10 ай бұрын

@@TrainStreet it's still kinda ugly and has the same reliability problems as the ALC 42s

@IronHorsefan1869

6 ай бұрын

@@LongIslandRailfanner The Genesis units are far uglier and the ALC-42s and SC-44s don't have as many issues now as teething issues are being resolved

Right off the bat ranking a loco A-tier because it vaguely looks like it's smiling. This is why I love your stuff.

I respect the F59 placements. I grew up riding behind them on NCDOT so my bias would have put them in S tier. Great video as always

We, and the world, needed this.

As someone who has been a railfan for 50+ years and who has ridden Amtrak for all but one of those years (didn't ride in 1972 or 2020), I enjoyed viewing your video. I agree with most of your ratings, particularly for the Talgo which looks like a toy inspired by a child's cartoon. At first, I did not like the looks of Amtrak's Genesis locomotives, but I eventually warmed up to them and really like the chug-chug sound and enjoy seeing them on the Amtrak's Pennsylvanian train. I evenpurchased an HO-scale model of the 156 in the Phase 1 paint scheme and have ordered the 100 in the Midnight Blue scheme. Thanks for sharing. This was a fun video to watch.

@ahdog8

6 ай бұрын

9 months late, but what happened in 1972!?

alright I must admit I'm excited to see what Amtrak does with the new Charger stuff.

I remember seeing the genesis on there goes a train and I absolutely loved the design.

The video we all needed

You made sure to point out at the beginning that this list would be more subjective, which is great. That being said, I think a follow up video using technical specifications, service history, etc. would be appropriate

14:14 🤣🤣 bro the way you said it was pretty funny 0:53 yep, I always pictured that, especially on steam locomotives when they have the hand rail on their smokebox foot

@adventuresofamtrakcascades301

Жыл бұрын

14:55 this part cracked me up

@bl00migh0st

Жыл бұрын

@@TWF1003 Leave Then.

@adventuresofamtrakcascades301

Жыл бұрын

​@Trimetwes Fan1003 Yes, he did. Don't ever bash my opinions

great train video sir

I’m not gonna get offended, I’m just a train.

@Mrmonkey19888

Жыл бұрын

how are you typing if your a train (sarcasm)

Yay, somebody else who actually remembers _There Goes A Train!_ 😀 Me personally, it's nice to see the newer Charger locomotives against the well-aged Amtrak fleet, but I really only see them shuttling between Pontiac and Detroit. Between Detroit and Chicago still seems to be predominantly Genesis locos...?

I hope Amtrak keeps the Genesis engines on service until the Chargers work properly

@IronHorsefan1869

Жыл бұрын

They are starting to work properly

Have the same thoughts for the F40. There goes a train was a major but also living in Chicago was a plus. I got to see them a few times a month and i always loved them. I had no idea how long they'd been around or that Amtrak had been phasing them out, same with Santa Fe and plenty of other lines I thought we're still around and thier engines. Along with the Big Boy, those powerful long lasting beasts will always be my favorite. Anytime i take a drive into the city or near a line and see them still powering on i smile, knowing they're still here always makes me happy Also had no idea we're the same age. Pretty cool

No offense taken on this at all because i TOTALLY AGREE!! You did the Talgo locomotive so bad lol!! You had me laughing at that part! 🤣 100% agree with you!

The proper video we needed:

@forward__aluminum285

Жыл бұрын

U ACS-64 #637????

The SDP40F better be god tier

NGL the new Charger train set looks cleaner than the actual engine. I particularly like the F59PHi and Avelia since they look like straight aerodynamic BEASTS

"There Goes a Train" is such a core memory - I watched that thing countless times on VHS as a kid and remember finding it on youtube one day to much delight. I came away from that smitten with Santa Fe and also the "new genesis" locomotives, specifically the phase III P40DC. I also spent my early childhood in SoCAL and so the Amtrak Surfliner F59PHIs were my favorites to watch

As a Charger person, Yea...... Other than it dying like every damn winter storm, it looks nice.

Nah, Turbotrain is legit my favorite, I love how doofy it looks, it's so cute

I’m a train 364/365 Michigander, but last summer I spent some time on the east coast. The Acela train sets are showing age, they really rattle and don’t ride as nice as they should for the cost. Still worth “at least once” status. I also came to respect the ALC-42, they’re solid workhorses and they’re underrated here. Also gotta say I do miss the Genesis on the blue water😢

The saddest day in railroad history: Amtrak retires the P40s

That’s awesome what you created today

The UA Turbos were great to ride in the dome car, they were loud and had issues but were fun to ride

4:30 couldn't agree w/ you more. they're my favorite loco of all time, *mainly Septa's for the extremely custom tuned horn* but also bc I saw em a good amount of times during my childhood ( i live a mile from the keystone corridor) so yeah, my favorite.

Interesting on how Amtrak Chargers break down during the winter or now fall while Via Rail Chargers are working fine this winter season, two train sets running every Tuesday since November.

14:14 “it’s an ugly piece of shit” bro had enough with the Taglo Cab car

Have you ever considered working for amtrak? I just started a few months ago and as a mechanically minded, diet foamer, and Im having a great time. regarding the chargers sucking in snow. I previously interviewed with siemens and we discussed that. The person interviewing me figured out that issue and the solution. the specifics is there is an air duct running through the rear of the locomotive, from the ground up to the resister arrays. usually it pushes air up and away. however if it detects that there is snow or ice blocking the entrance down at the bottom it should reverse the fan direction so it blows hot air on the ice and snow, melting them. however the computer still warns you if you are operating it in conditions below 50f, which frankly is a ridiculous minimum temperature.

The talgo and turbo look very awesome imo. Then again I have a thing for unique and odd designs

My first mainline cabride was in SDP40F #603. Charleston to Huntington, WV October 1975. I recall running over a tv antenna lying on the track.

Can I just say how you incorporated welcome to the city from dr is just genius? Like as an underground railfan, when I saw the playthru of deltarune in cyber city, I thought oh yeah this is some nice music when trains basically or... when that one npc said "public transit" i connected it all together!

Can’t wait for the Urbanists to rage about how the Chargers aren’t number one

@therailfanman2078

Жыл бұрын

"BuT wHY iS iTT nOT ToP TEAr!!¿?!?!?!?? ÆÆÆÆÆÆĄÆÆ"

@fuzzyhead878

Жыл бұрын

Based comment. Gotta love those types of “Railfans” that refuse to acknowledge anything older than their Iphones.

11:33 Its a similar story with the Hitachi AT300s (Classes 800 to 803) here in the UK From Leaking Air Conditioning Units, Overheating Engines, Software Issues, Problematic Power Changeover Sequences to Cracks in the Lifting Brackets and now Fatigue and Cracks in the Body Shells, The list goes on...

@LongIslandRailfanner

Жыл бұрын

Same Here with the EMD DM/DE30AC here on the Long Island Railroad hey mainly suffer from Electrical problems but thats about it

3:28, “so um, *moves to S tier*, this engine is pretty cool and…” got me cracking up!

I have a second Buick Terraza painted like SDP40F #644, the only one left, in Amtrak's phase III color scheme.

When ever i hear Amtrak, i think of the P42, the F40PH and and the F59PHI.

F40HP is one of my favorite Amtrak trains to :)

What about the GG1 or E and F units?

Ngl the Talgo 8 cab car really does look like a road vehicle on rails😂 LMAO

I honestly feel the same way for the VIA rail f40ph's, lots of nostalgia related to them being a kid in the 2000's. Also, HARD disagree on the D-tier placements. The turbotrain is by far one of my favorite trainsets, though CN's was a lot better looking when compared to gen 1 amtrak paint. The genset is nice because it's unique, and it looks like a proper shunting and utility loco, making it look well suited for its position.

That's right man! You better put that Genny up in S tier man! That thang is a legend!

This Is Great

Nahh AmtrakGuy365 Defied the laws of physics or computer gravity to make Talgo tier and it makes it even funnier...

I love the via charger/venture when I went to quebec city I made sure that I was exclusively on them (mostly because the interiors are nicer)

When I think of Amtrak, the Genesis is exactly what pops up in my mind.

I remember when Amtrak had F40PH as there primary power

ive been Trainmaxxing so hard recently and its all because i rewatched this guy's trainz 12 crashing video

I mostly agree with your opinions but I think the dash 8 should be in a tier but also I saw a alc-42 charger for the first time not to long ago

In my opinion is the SC-44 alright looking. I warmed up to it a long time ago since railfan in California and there's lots of them but I think you will warm up to the ALC-42 since they have the same style cab as the ACS-64

Amtrak guy imma get some of your stickers cuz I love them

Amtrakguy on the talgos: im about to end this engines whole career

The reveal of Charger Tier was great

I grew up with the AEM-7s. When they started replacing them, I was heartbroken. But, like you said, I warmed to them eventually. I still like the AEM-7 more though.

Amazing

I'd move the turbo from A to S. Perhaps the most comfortable ride on the rails. I'd also sink the Acela due to how badly it rides. The vibrations are nuts even on refurbished newer track at higher speeds. I didn't like it when I worked on Amtrak even deadheading between Newark and New York Penn. Real rough ride. Other than that, I loved this list! Pretty much have my own rankings that are very similar to this one!

@isaacsmith1874

Жыл бұрын

Rtl?

Love the F-40ph's, and have tons of love for those old school P-30ph's "POOCHES".....

The only changes I would make on my tier list would be to bump the Dash 8 up to A (always had a weird love for them, not sure why), and to put the Acela in S. I know it’s childhood bias from growing up on the east coast in the late 90s and early 2000s, but that is the first train I ever remember vividly, and I’m glad I got to take a ride on one as a kid from DC up the NEC

Love the metroliner and the pooch

“There goes the train” shout out 🙌🏼

I would've thrown the E60 into the S Teir cause that Big Bulky strong look is what caught your eye

@davidawalkerjr2905

Жыл бұрын

While the E-60s had shorter Noses, the Profiles were very close to the P30-CHs.

I'm proud to have personally worked with the F40PH locomotives in the GCRY fleet, especially No. 237

14:14 I kinda agree there. I don't think it's the worst one ever but still ugly 14:28 14:58

One thing Abt the SDP40F's, I hate how there's no front hand rails, it looks incomplete without them

and what do you say about Vossloh BR286 in paint scheme amtrak? what score can you give him?

I have an opinion on the charger so probably do fine on corridor, especially when referencing the Lincoln service and maybe some of your shorter distance/eastern overnight route, but yeah anything that’s going through the Rockies keep the genny’s

@nolantherailfan5048

Жыл бұрын

Brightlines chargers operate just fine

@IronHorsefan1869

6 ай бұрын

I want the Gennys gone! they're old and don't last forever, keeping them is only gonna worsen delays over time due to worsening mechanical failures.

the talgo looks like a scania 146l or 124h

Because of Metra, The F40PH is a Coolio locomotive to me

You can then put the Genter in the b tear because it’s the same thing as the dash eight

damn.. took that f59ph rating to heart. they did amazing for go transit for years, i understand this is an amtrak perspective, but they used to push and pull 10 bi levels no problem, with beautiful k5LA’s.

Funny that the Chargers are having issues with snow in the air intakes. The Pennsy had the same issues with the GG1s sucking in snow and having issues. Not sure how they addressed that…

@IronHorsefan1869

6 ай бұрын

It was called teething issues, All locos from the earliest steamers had them, and just like Pennsy Amtrak has worked out the charger issues

I realized something a little recently. The "Flyer" Acelas have the same problem as the "Liberty" Acelas with the cars not matching the profile of the power cars. It isn't as noticeable on the former because the power cars are a bit wider than the trailers, so the slant isn't as noticeable.

Pog!

Me at the beginning of this video. If the Genesis isn't S class I'm rioting 😂

Suddenly the TF2 theme starts, haha nice.

I fucking lost it at the Charger and Talgo parts. The Talgo does look like a car/truck hybrid. I absolutely hate both of those locomotives, and I couldn't agree more. The fact you created entire bad catagories for them is perfect, and you put the F40PH (my favorite locomotive) in S tier makes this even more awesome than it is. Thank you, AmtrakGuy!

@adventuresofamtrakcascades301

Жыл бұрын

The Talgo part is not a locomotive, it's a cab car

@rutilethefallen765

4 ай бұрын

I can't 😂😂 that part got me so bad

Atleast Amtrak won’t need to worry about their GE’s blowing turbochargers anymore they’re completely phased out. I do hope they work out the charger kinks. But your charger attitude makes me wander how they could have better luck with long range adapted EMD F125’s or MPI MP54AC’s.

@adventuresofamtrakcascades301

Жыл бұрын

The MP54AC would be so off for long-distance trains to me

The F40 in S tier is something i can agree with being Canadian. VIAs units are of a newer updated model from 1987 but that only accentuates it's greatness. Reliable, rugged, sturdy, dependable are words i'd use to describe these units. There's a very good reason why they rebuilt each unit with better everything. The units are showing no sign of slowing down any time soon and there's talks of another major overhaul coming for them so they'll get trundling down the tracks with long distance and remote region trains for many years to come. Also they're F units and i think part of that plays into their appeal. I also somewhat agree with you on the charger aesthetic. Personally i don't like any of the variants out there. I think VIAs nose design looks unfinished.

HHP-8 is the Curséd dollar store Acela, deserves D-tier

I get what you're saying about the charger yeah I'm not a big fan of that notched nose too but 42s do look a bit better in my eyes I say would probably prefer via rail's or brightline versions though so but I think of the day I'm still Keen to see what they'll do for Amtrak in the end