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Amp Capture Plugin Shootout (ToneX vs NAM vs STL ToneHub vs Tonocracy )

Today we're looking at capturing the ENGL Fireball 60w Lead Channel.
We're looking at ToneX vs NAM vs Tonocracy vs STL ToneHub Traces.
I've got some blind tests to show off how each of these sound as well as some NULL tests.
I've also got a breakdown of training times, features, prices and a few other things so you can really stack up the options front to back against each other.
Let me know what you think about these, so many great options out there these days!
NAM (Neural Amp Modeler) - www.neuralampm...
STL ToneHub - www.stltones.c...
Tonocracy - tonocracy.com/
ToneX - www.ikmultimed...
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
00:42 - Blind Mix Test
01:24 - Blind Guitar Only
02:44 - Reveal
03:44 - Null Quality Test
04:52 - Feature Compare
13:26 - ToneX Results
14:40 - Final Thoughts
GEAR USED
- Balaguer Woodsman BB Lightbringer
- SOLAR 1.6A Vinter
- Gibson SG 61 Reissue
- LTD EC-1000
- Fishman Fluence Moderns
- Evertune
- RedSeven AmpCentral LoadBox
- STL Amphub
- EBS Patch Cables
- RME UCX II Interface
- Creation Audio Labs MW1 DI/Reamp
- Samson Patchbay
- Shure SM7B
- Rode Wireless Go
- Rode VideoNTG
- TC Electronic Sentry Noise Gate Pedal
If you have any gear or software demos you want me to take a look at just comment or email and I can chuck it on my list.
Thanks for watching!
- Nathan

Пікірлер: 29

  • @89ji76
    @89ji7627 күн бұрын

    Wow, totally thought it had to be E because it was the one different one. So basically all of these sound closer to the real thing than Tone X does… Would not have expected that 😮

  • @Esteebann
    @Esteebann9 күн бұрын

    3:00 Real Amp 3:04 NAM 3:09 Tonocracy 3:14 STL Tonehub

  • @amurphycmu
    @amurphycmuАй бұрын

    Awesome video as always Nate. I picked C or D as the real amp, almost right but couldn't decide. I have a feeling you're going to be making another awesome video very SOON ;)

  • @ampspedalspickups

    @ampspedalspickups

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah they’re super close to each other, crazy good 🤘

  • @enthronedoath8370
    @enthronedoath8370Ай бұрын

    Personally I think nam and tonocracy sounded the best you pretty much can't tell the difference. The stl was good but had a bit too much high end fizz for me. Tone X i think would be great if the levels were correct. I would suggest watching ed s video on levels for the tone x.

  • @ampspedalspickups

    @ampspedalspickups

    Ай бұрын

    I’m well versed in the topic I’ve got two videos about setting levels. Everything here was reamped at the same level and the other 3 can handle this gain and Tonex can’t. I’ve tried various specs and it’s all different versions of the same issue. It’s just a different version of the tech compared to the other 3 and the results are pretty different. If I tamed the gain down then Tonex would handle it a lot better

  • @enthronedoath8370

    @enthronedoath8370

    Ай бұрын

    @@ampspedalspickups ah then there must still be issues. I've not used to tone X since Ed brought his video and I had similar results to your captures so I just put it down to that but there must be still something on there. It's a shame really as the tone X is good when you get good results. Great video though I'd never heard of the tonocracy so I'll be giving that a go. 🤘🏻

  • @djabthrash
    @djabthrashАй бұрын

    Fantastic video

  • @-Tepp-
    @-Tepp-Ай бұрын

    That Fireball is awesome

  • @jcugnoni
    @jcugnoniАй бұрын

    You can get awesome results with any of these including ToneX (for mid gain). But each require a different process and level matching is difficult in some of them. So in my opinion, the process is what makes most difference. As a plugin Tonocracy is certainly the simplest and most productive. NAM is my preferred choice for many reasons.. But I like what I can do with the little ToneX One pedal. By the way, I got quite decent results with ToneX but not consistently...

  • @ampspedalspickups

    @ampspedalspickups

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah I've had some "ok" hits with ToneX, tends to be when I lower the gain down. Like even if I profile the same thing a few times it can be hit and miss. I'll be doing a video on "what I want to see from NAM" soon and the capturing side of things will be a lot of what we see from Tonocracy... Tonocracy gets a lot of things wrong (infant software so it gets a pass), but the one thing it does really well is the capturing side.

  • @StudioAmpCaptures
    @StudioAmpCapturesАй бұрын

    Great video, thank you.

  • @KhaosWarrior6662
    @KhaosWarrior666212 күн бұрын

    Hey bro can u make a video of using real overdrive pedal with amp sim And show the difference between overdrive in the plugin vs the real pedal ❤

  • @ampspedalspickups

    @ampspedalspickups

    11 күн бұрын

    Good idea I’ll chuck it on the list 💪

  • @WholeLottaBulldog
    @WholeLottaBulldogАй бұрын

    Mate, i love your approach. I love your channel, too. Ive had my best luck with tonex by capturing plugins, like ndsp and stl josh middleton. Btw, where you at in Aus? Im in Melbourne.

  • @ampspedalspickups

    @ampspedalspickups

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah I can see it handling digital stuff a bit better and the gain coming out better… the real a,ps definitely have a rawness that it struggles with. Yeah Sydney here 🤜🤛

  • @constantinranis
    @constantinranisАй бұрын

    I love the sound of Engl, it's so throaty, I did a shootout video on my channel not so long ago where I compare a real Engl Savage to some of the most well known amp sim captures on the market, everyone has its character and sound different but you can hear that Engl vibe on all of them. If you are interested I can share the link,I would like to hear your thoughts about them.

  • @ampspedalspickups

    @ampspedalspickups

    Ай бұрын

    Go for it! I’d love to get a real savage mk2 at some point, great amps

  • @constantinranis

    @constantinranis

    Ай бұрын

    @@ampspedalspickups Awesome kzread.info/dash/bejne/hZuLtqOJmdmcZqQ.htmlsi=7OXIbJKgvPBES6e0

  • @thethings4708
    @thethings4708Ай бұрын

    MAN !! i have to admite ; VERY VERY surprise by the quality of Tonocracy...

  • @ampspedalspickups

    @ampspedalspickups

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah the captures are super high quality, very capable

  • @thatguyreiji1045
    @thatguyreiji1045Ай бұрын

    As you mentioned the odd one out is most certainly the ToneX, I think apart from the real amp, the other captures can all be used in a real setting. Think it all comes down to preference. You can try your NAM captures in the Two Notes Genome plugin. It has few parameters you can use to tweak your tone even more. You should give it a look.

  • @ampspedalspickups

    @ampspedalspickups

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah quite a few nam players like genome around. I’ve got it but haven’t used it much honestly, will give it a proper spin

  • @djabthrash

    @djabthrash

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@ampspedalspickupsIn Genome you can change Tonestack types , which is very cool

  • @johndo9648
    @johndo9648Ай бұрын

    Started out with nam but now I use tonocracy. It’s more user friendly to me. One thing that I dislike about captures. There are just to many. I mainly use dialled in tones with a theme like metal or punk, for example. Not those packs containing every gain stage of an amp and the eq on zero. If you get my drift 😊 I still prefer modelling but capture can sound insanely good. Also, how do all these capture software hold up outing a boost, fuzz or distortion in front of it?

  • @ampspedalspickups

    @ampspedalspickups

    Ай бұрын

    They should take boosts and pedals really well. The underlying tech does a good job of probing the amp response. It’s obviously one setting at a time but within that the push and pull response of the amp is pretty good.

  • @johndo9648

    @johndo9648

    Ай бұрын

    Never tried it it. Now I will. Thanks ☺️

  • @drewwebsteraudio
    @drewwebsteraudioАй бұрын

    Tone low X-pectations

  • @ampspedalspickups

    @ampspedalspickups

    Ай бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣