Amiga 500 Desktop Video - Genlocking like it's 1990
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This week on 10 Minute Amiga Retrocast @10MARC I have filmed the entire episode through a Progressive Peripherals ProGen Genlock. Here is what I used:
Amiga 500 with A570 CD-ROM with 2 MB RAM & SCSI interface.
Workbench 1.3, TV*TEXT Professional, DeluxePaint IV.
Canon Rf800 HD Video Camera.
Composite video output connected to Genlock, Genlock connected to Vidbox Composite capture card.
RCA Stereo output connected to Digitnow Stereo Capture on PC.
OBS for recording, Davinci Resolve for post processing and editing.
My goal is to use this Amiga 500 as a fairly period accurate Desktop Video machine for home/small business use.
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I was a Beta-Tester for the A1300 Genlock(™), and used it on the PBS medical video "Headache - The ancient enemy" (1996) and the A1300 was Broadcast Quality (1" Ampex Video recorder) to make the Title, cycle-color graphics(dPaint), and 2D animation (Aegis Animator SW) through out the video. Later, I used it to watch Late-Night TV in the background while I was using Workbench on the Amiga in the foreground. Multi-Video-Tasking = Good Times!
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
That is too cool! I have the A1300 for my Amiga 1000. It is pretty darn good!
this is a great video. I’m so glad you actually did all the titles on the Amiga…. and that TV text program. I must’ve sold at least 10 copies of that at our store!!
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
Thanks, Kevin. I have only been planning on doing a video like this for like two years now! But I finally got a Genlock that I did not want to chuck out the window. It made a big difference!
Our local community broadcasting studio had an Amiga 500 with a genlock and Broadcast Titler and I got roped into teaching titling there even though I had never done it. They had been told I was an Amiga guru by someone my Mom knew so I said I would check it out. It took me a couple of hours to figure out how to use Broadcast Titler so it wasn't really a big deal. Only on an Amiga!
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
How absolutely fantastic! Yes, sometimes as long as we know 10% more than the people around us, we are suddenly the Guru or expert!
Great memories. I worked in a TV station during the early 90s and we used Amiga 2000 with genlock and ScalaMM for titleling in all our programs
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
I really wish there were some good videos online for learning Scala. Guess I have to make one!
Great work Doug thanks
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
Another great job, more Genlock videos please.
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
I certainly have more planned! Next one might be on my Amiga 1000
A genlock is still on my list. this video is inspiring me to get one sooner than later :)
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
Totally worth it, just to experience the fun and challenge of doing videos back in the 80's & 90's.
This is awesome
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
Glad you liked it my friend!
The Chart Show which was a music programme on UK Tv back in the 90's used Genlocked graphics for the infomation about the bands and singers been shown
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
That is awesome! So many local stations in America used Amigas, Genlocks and eventually Toasters. I bet most of them got sold off cheap or dumped in the early 2000's
LOL the dunce cap!!!
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
Tee hee hee!
Very interesting to see this. Thanks for sharing 🥰 ❤️ 🙏
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@HKvalhe
Ай бұрын
@@10MARC I sure did. It was very interesting to see the use of Genlock and the video recording on Amiga. Keep it up, my friend 🥰 ❤️ 🙏
Nice! I am a great fan of old video titling stuff. Have 2 Genlocks here is well. Love it!
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
Which Genlocks do you have? I own about six or seven right now - a few are for the A2000 but I never install them since the A2000 is my Toaster machine
@theEIGHTBitBox
Ай бұрын
@@10MARC I would love to have a 2000 and a Toaster, but very costly, especially here in Germany.
@theEIGHTBitBox
Ай бұрын
@@10MARC I have the "Electronic Design PAL-Genlock !" and the "RocGen"
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
@@theEIGHTBitBox did your Rocgen come with the control software? I can't find it online
@theEIGHTBitBox
Ай бұрын
@@10MARC Yes, it did. I can send you a Disk-Image.
I used a Digital Creations SuperGen back in the early 90s, and the quality always seemed really good (for composite - I didn't have any s-video gear at the time). I used a few character generator programs, as well as Scala, but mostly stuck to TurboTitle.
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
Anything from Digital Creations was quality. Great company! I really need to learn Scala. That is fantastic software!
Well shoot, this was just like watching my old local public access cable station. I always wonder what happened to their Toaster setup they had...
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
I can make a weekly "Amiga Variety Show" with movie reviews, interviews, game shows and the other funny things they had on PAX
@LeftoverBeefcake
Ай бұрын
@@10MARC It wouldn't be complete without some late night infomercials... ;)
I have a GVP Genlock that I used for holiday videos. It was good, but constantly crashed my Amigas. I guess it was faulty, though the person I bought it off said it worked perfectly for him.
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
Was it for the RGB port or one of their ZORRO II devices? GVP always made really good products. Maybe the software could not handle more modern OS's
@necronom
Ай бұрын
@@10MARC It plugs into the RGB port (and the joystick port). I used it on my A500 KS1.2 and my A1200 KS3.0, and I had the same problem on both. GVP were ex-Commodore people I think, so they knew the system well.
If you go in deeper into those titeling programs, you should take Scala into account. When I was doing hobby video projects in the Youth Red Cross, i was always missing a genlock. I had my A500 there anyway :-) We had a source mixer, so every Amiga screen had to be mixed ~30 % with the video, it was always opaque
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
Yes, I need to take a deep dive into Scala. That is cool you had your A500 with you! I bet it impressed your friends!
This is hard to watch, only from the perspective that, like many, I had an A500 back in the day, and it was extremely cutting edge then, but anything Amiga now is very dated and takes away from the memories I have. It sucks that we can't get a new Amiga in 2024. Every other day, some new ultra powerfdul handheld comes out. Here we are living on 40 year old hardware with 320 x 200 x 16 color games.
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
That's certainly your perspective and I respect that, but a lot of us have a really fun time pushing these old machines to their limits and having a blast with them. There are still Amiga's coming out - just not how you might expect. A-Eon just released a new motherboard, and AmigaKit is about to ship an ARM based Amiga called the A-600. Lots of fun still to be had. And those games were 320x200x32 colors. ;)
Doug is not a goofball Doug is not a goofball Doug is not a goofball Doug is not a goofball
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
Yes he is
Doug, have you ever used a SuperGen? I always thought they were pretty good but I never tried anything else. They have two nice dissolve faders on top and a couple of switches--interpretive dissolve and a notch filter. I have never even seen an Amiga A1300 or A2300 , I don't even remember knowing about those although I must have seen ads in magazines.
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
Yes, I own a Supergen but have never used it. I have the ZORRO II version. I don't have the heart to take out my Toaster 2000 to try it out! And the darn thing does not fit in my A3000!
@dannylgriffin
Ай бұрын
@@10MARC I'm assuming you're talking about your Toaster not fitting as the SuperGen is a small desktop box. I have used the SuperGen in real life, broadcasting for General Motors. I was the engineer responsible for the broadcast system in part of the corporation, so I took it to the next level and got Amiga 3000's and Scala. Eventually we transitioned to PC and the PC version of Scala, but that didn't exist way back when. All this was cheap. You should see the expensive video switcher some assh*le salesman convinced GM to purchase before I was hired. I've contemplated the Toaster and was trying to figure out a way to justify it to GM at the time (it was very early 1995). In the end, I couldn't for what we needed. As an engineer I have to justify everything financially, and as an engineer I could do magic with numbers and make 2+2 = 374. But GM wasn't ready to go into the next generation of video at the time so that was the deciding factor and then I moved on within the corporation.
Is the colour fringing effect on the mouse pointer and other bits just in the capture, or is it present in the composite output? It seems noisier than it should be.
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
That appears on all my composite output from my Genlock. I think it may be how it deals with the pointer being a sprite
You could do a revamped genlock with WinUAE, all the rest would be the same but you could use the best video quality available today as ita base
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
Huh. That's interesting. So WinUAE could even see the incoming video source? That would be fun to try!
@vertigoz
Ай бұрын
@@10MARC you have it in hardware>chipset>genlock
Was this shot in “Ham it up” mode? 😂
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
As are most my videos! 🤣
No lie. Please use this production technique for all your videos regardless of the content you’re discussing.
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
That would be kind of cool!!
Video is fine the audio is doing a “flapping” sound thing
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
I suspect that is my Vidbox composite capture device. I have heard it do that on occasion. That capture box is probably 12 to 15 years old. I suppose I could try one of my Composite to HDMI upscalers and use my modern HDMI capture.
Four hundred and eighty pixels
@10MARC
Ай бұрын
I counted every last one of them!