I have a Continental 2 which was a basket case when I got it. That is the one with the hemispherical glass dome over the mech. Total rewiring was needed as the insulation was cracked and flaking off. I did a total restoration of the vacuum tube stereo amp, and overhaul of the mech. A real labor of love, but one shining moment comes to mind. While I was checking inside the main speaker cabinet for wiring replacement, I found over 35 bucks worth of silver coins that had missed the coin box! So that made the renovation well worthwhile. These old AMI boxes will run forever with a little TLC. As you say, though, they have lost a lot of the romance by hiding the mech. Thanks for the video.

I just love Jukeboxes. The wobbly rotating records, the buttons, the record selection mechanism and lets not forget they usually are a treat to the eye.

I've seen a lot of power supplies "crowbar" from overload, but that's the first time I have ever seen the actual crowbar. Lol. Enjoyed the video, thanks Fran.

Very nice machine. I never knew about that raised outer lip on 45's for scratch protection. Neat!

@FranLab

9 жыл бұрын

Applied Science Yea - And the old Mercury 45's from the 50's/60's had a raised ring on the inside, surrounding the label too.

Just as I've discovered myself, some equipment just wants someone to care for it, nothing broken, just a cry for some TLC. Nice vid, thanks Fran.

I swear every time I find a new toy I look for repair videos and Bam there's Fran🤣 I'm subscribed yet I don't pay attention to things I don't own

I did the same to the amp on my rowe ami "jewel" jukebox (1980 vintage) a week or two ago, the sound was getting very "weird" and distorted, so i just took it apart and cleaned all the switches and re-seated all the connectors - did the trick all right. Mine has the same mechanism but it is only supposed to play 160 sides, although if i put records in the unused section of the magazine it'll play them no problem. Only problem is not enough room for 100 tickets in mine. I print the tickets using DTP software and a laser printer. (I also have a selectric II typewriter - used to fix them in the early 80's) I love all your videos, Fran - keep up the good work - they are very informative!

I like the jukebox repair ,had a electronics store and my specialty was repair a lot of this machine in the 80' Rock-ola Rowe Ami, Seeburg, Wurlitzer. Thank for share. 🙂👍

Fran; I love your choices of music that you picked out.

Thanks Fran Very instructive , i have just bought a R86, and this video has taught me how to change the records . Kind Regards Tony

Enjoyed your juxebox Deoxit repair! Jolly song in the end.

great video Fran nice to see it still working

I love jukeboxes. When I was a kid in the 70's, I'd ask Santa every year @ Christmas time for one. Never did get one. Lol. Very Interesting video.

Sounds great on our end. Keep up the great work! You and your videos are awesome!

Nice to see the arm setup and all the rest of the ops in there... and the bass response was superb through headphones :-)

Very interesting to watch :) I totally agree that they shouldn't have hidden the mechanism away. I remember where I grew up we had a village hall (if that's the right word for it. Place you could rent for birthdays, parties and so on) and there was an old Jukebox where the mechanism was visible at the top of the machine.. Every time a song was about to end my friends and I ran to the machine, just to see it change the record :) I forget what type of records it used though.. Even today it's fascinating to watch :D Thanks for sharing!

Surely part of the charm of a jukebox was actually watching the mechanism. Poor mechanical contacts as you thought - experience counts ! I didn't know about that lip on 45s, not that I have any anymore; always bought LPs. Love your channel.

I never knew that about the raised lip, how fascinating. Just uploading my Rowe T1-2 vid this weekend, thanks for this useful video VERY VERY informative, ive learned

Very good and warm sound for a transistor amplified jukebox and of course nice video Fran and hope to see more of this kind of repair video's.

I just found a 1976 Rowe/ami R80 fleetwood for free. It has some problems but I will get it running for it's 40'th Birthday. Your vid will help me a great deal as there is not a lot of info out there on fixing old Jukeboxes. Thanks

Wow ! That was realy cool ! Thanks for sharing, Fran :)

Jukeboxes are so cool aren't they? Love my R-89! And my Seeburg Stereo Showcase!

Hooray for XTC! "Oranges and Lemons" is one of my favourite albums. It would have been nice to see that white disc from The Hives, I kept looking at it in the carousel and hoping you'd show it off. :-)

Well done. I learned a few more things about 45's I did not know. I recently purchased ( practically given?) a Rowe R-84. Took awhile to get it up and running but sure love the thing. And yes....corrosion on the pins is the main problem I found. Not surprising considering the age of the units. But they will probably outlive us by many years....lol. Thanks for you video. I enjoyed it. There are a couple of sights that handle the Rowes and other types and they have been handy from time to time. CD jukes are just not the same. Its records for this cat....lol

Wow the way that sounds! So rich! very cool! Nice fix to!

This video was great. Thanks Fran.

I have a Rowe Ami continental, I restored it Fran,itwa great fun

I'm an instant subscriber. I found your voice to be pleasant, the photography was good (steady camera, good lighting, etc), the information was accurate and your Logo reminds me of the guitar and amplifier maker, Fender. :D I'm currently looking for information about repairing the CCC, or finding one reasonably priced that works - or both!

Loved the video. I wish ya would have pulled that white 45 and showed it on camera. I've never seen a white 45!

Thanx Fran!!!! That was a lot of knowledge there. I have to remark about the crowbar too, that was a big sucker Fran...!!! All kidding aside I learned a lot from this video. I too have always been fascinated by Juke Boxes. I did like the older ones with the changer and records in the viewable window. Juke Boxes always made the record sound better than at home.

I can't tell you how many times I was called out to install and service these Jukeboxes among others. Those amps were made to have extra options. Like add on boards that would allow external audio. Most came with output transformers that allowed for 70 volt speakers and volume match external speakers. The thing that really killed the jukebox was mp3's as they were. Some nostalgic places will still want mechanical media. That is when they went to digital files and touch screens. It was a big time saver because you didn't have to change out Christmas albums in remote locations in June or to keep variety going. But with that came complicated membership and royalty fees to operate these. Some rare ones used beta video players with control interfaces to play music videos. Now that is alot easier with digital servers.

Still a wonderful DIY cleanup repair

A fellow toothbrusharian! Awesome. Thanks Fran.

@sajjadkhan5081

9 жыл бұрын

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Thanks fran that was cool. Ahhh the days of vinyl...i had a thorens table marrantz amp and epi speakers. Not the best but sounded good to my ears. Analog mixed with digital....good stuff !

Love those vids. Always something new, like that record player with the arm on it's "wrong" side and also in the "wrong" direction. That looks so odd, but seems to work fine. Never seen that before.

it is amazing how well this jukebox holds up. Sure - it was not build for getting that old, but it still works when doing a bit o maintenance. Image any modern electronic

@aserta

9 жыл бұрын

Things used to be made to different standards. Think space probes (any mission not on this planet). Designed to work for a certain amount of time, if it happens to work over that designed time frame..well, that's just fine by us. Nowadays...they will go all the way to the end of the world and back to make sure it fails exactly after the time they think you should go back and buy a new one.

Frantastic!

This was A Fun Video,,Thanks Fran!!!!!

I would love to see the white 45! I like different things. I don't think I ever seen a colored record before. I bet its cool looking . kinda like a negative! great video. I love retro tech.

@nilswegner2881

6 жыл бұрын

James stranger colored vinyl is not an uncommon thing, I think I have at least 5 records that are on colored vinyl. It just was not that common with 7 inch singles although I have a red one of those too.

I like making my own title strips too! Very good video, thanks! -- Atco

HI. Thanks for the video. I have one of the blue hybrids. I really like your model and I would like one of these I think.

Fran...1n 1955 the Seeburg jukebox company introduced the model V200, which also introduced a new selection system. This "Tormat" electronic memory system did away with the mechanical selector pin mechanism. Check out how it worked, I think it will fascinate you....it did me.....ingenious use of magnetism on toroidal beads.

smart fran :) well done !

I dig jukeboxes - maybe try some oxgard on the pins and terminals to keep the O2 gremlins away... Thanks for the video

Even the tonearm danced to the music.

Our pizza parlors would use the mic input to call out order ready numbers for the customers. Most restaurants would have a jukebox until into the late 80s here in Oregon. Love your show thanks Fran

I used to work on these half a lifetime ago. I noticed your prop stick holding the lid. We used to cut pieces of PVC pipe with an ID large enough to slip over the gas strut. The length should be as long as the rod at full extension. Disconnect one end of the strut, slip the pipe over it and you have a self stowing lid prop. If you mount the gas strut so the rod end is down, every time you open the lid, the pipe will slide down and automatically hold up your lid.

I am thinking about buying one

I wish everybody would take the care you do making a video!! Professional lighting, positioning of camera and sound. Nothing worse than a camera mounted on someone's head or held in the opposite hand and the movement gives the viewer motion sickness!! You are wonderful with the video production, and on top of that I have learned a ton from you!!Thank you Fran!!

Very informative video, with the exception of the pots the amp in your R88 is nearly identical to the one in my CD51. My jukebox is also in the corner and I plan to use your remote volume switch mod to make a simple wall mounted volume switch. If I wanted to add a cancel button to the wall switch as well, what type of momentary switch would I need?

Love this! In the process of getting and doing a restore on a R83 Disco.. Do not suppose you have any related manuals or guides that could help me would you?

Awesome video, machine and fix. Love those things.

you cannot beat the old tube amps, they are hard to hurt such as the AMI -MM7

Actually the microphone input could be for a restaruant or bar to make announcements like specials, or someone's table is ready, or something over the same speakers.

“ Do you work on pinball machines as well, I love that.”

clever lady, good for you

The paging can be used for bars and restaurants too.

Love Dave Day (The Monks) and the end but wish I could find more info about them and the song "The Right to be Free." Any links I missed in my ggle search?

Would love a juke box :-)

Just a thought, is the central control computer, really a computer? I was thinking about how they named it, does it actually do any calculating, it seems more just like a controller. Unless it calculates revenue etc, perhaps with the most popular selections it does calcs, I don't know seems a bit elaborate calling it a computer!! I suppose it is. Just a light hearted thought!!! I worked on your model Juke as a tech in 80s. Pete, UK

Very cool Fran, What kind is the spray that you use to clean the pot? Best regards!

@FranLab

9 жыл бұрын

DeoxIT.

I've always been fascinated by jukeboxes. Thanks for the video. Would some kind of dielectric grease help preserve the connector pins?

@FranLab

9 жыл бұрын

The contact cleaner also leaves a coating.

Hi. Interesting video. Can I ask how you set the r88 on freeplay. My dad has one and can’t do it nee can’t find a service manual for sale anywhere!! He has to use manual credits each time. Thanks

I was hoping for a bit more teardown but still... thanks for posting! Maybe you can post more details about how the mechanism works, what's in the computer etc. in a future video? Oh and by the way, back in those days, a Watt still meant something... Probably nowadays they'll tell you an opamp with a few power transistors is 130W but back then, 130W would fill a loud bar with music, and have plenty of room to spare on the volume control.

@azzym312

8 жыл бұрын

+Jac Goudsmit You heard of PMPO? I have seen a battery operated ( 6 x D cells) claim a PMPO of 1000W. It is the rate at which the output waveform rises from zero which if it continued unchecked would rise to 100W equivalent. Except that a millisecond later it flattens out. Deceptive ? Sure. It is the marketing guys. I worked for a famous multinational ( I will not name it out of loyalty) as design engineer and had so much trouble with the marketing deptt BS that I quit consumer div and moved out to electromedical.

Have you or anyone you know of ever bypassed a bad jukebox amp and used a car amp or even a home stereo amp in its place. I'm talking about using the jukebox cabinet, guts, speakers etc - only thing different is the amp itself. I could easily use the outputs on my juke and run it to my receiver, but then I'm not using the jukebox speakers - kinda defeats the purpose of having the jukebox in the first place, right? If anyone knows this process - could you please point me in the right direction. My amp blew on my NSM Cosmic Blast and I can't find a replacement r a rebuilder anywhere.

Hi Fran, I wanted to put an extra potentiometer on my Rowe AMI RI3 jewel, like yours. I heard you mention 10k ohms but should it be a log or linear? thanks

Large part of people love 50s-60s jukeboxes (the most expensive on eBay, etc.), but I love late 70s-80s ones, maybe because I was born in 1972. You're very good in electronics (it's rare finding a lady who fiddles with that) and your black disposable gloves make you very cool (maybe I'm a little fetishist). Do you have a degree in Electronic Engineering or Physics or did you learn Electronics by self-teaching. I'm getting my third degree (Computing Engineering, at Politecnico di Bari) next year (I hope...). Kisses.

Great, now I want a jukebox... :D

I could be way off base, but I'm thinking that "PAGING" feature of the amplifier was not so prevalent in offices, but more commonly used in bars, teen hangouts, or pizza joints to allow the people behind the bar or at the counter to page patrons and let them know there is a telephone call for them, or their order is ready to pick up. Unlike today, way back then, a lot of places actually catered to their customers' conveniences (phone calls) more than they would today. ...Then again, with everybody having a cell phone of their own these days, there's really no need for notifying customers of a phone call, is there?

G' Day Fran, I heat the neck of my toothbrushes (Just behind the head) and bend the head back 45°. Keep up the good work Mate,

hay fran i did all that an sound still low and only on upper speakers can you help

Hi! I have an same model jukebox. Theres just one problem. The left channel is just a little quieter and sometimes goes out. Anyone got any tips?

Great piece of technology! Are those all original caps?

@FranLab

9 жыл бұрын

Yes... If it's not broke, I don't fix it.

Fran, what do you think is going on with my r-82? it plays alright but after it puts the record away the carousel keeps spinning

I lot of music I would listen to in your machine. I'll start with Devo's "Satisfaction".

Some great songs on there. By M, Wings, Thompson Twins, Blondie, XTC, Flock of Seagulls, Sparks. No surprises seeing Philadelphia Freedom by Elton John on there. 😉

You should "canabalize" an old receiver that has remote controlled volume (ie a Yamaha, etc) then you would be able to control the volume from across the room. 👍

I'd be willing to bet that the music level during paging could be for a hostess to page someone to their table maybe??

The amp looks to be direct-coupled. (split power supply, no output caps)

would you know how to change out the computers battery and set it to continuous play....I basically got one with a house i just recently purchased. I really need an operators Manuel...Need advise, this is all new to me and i dont wish to damage it by tinkering...any help would be appreciated...thanks

@tomhumphries6606

8 жыл бұрын

If you are going in unexperienced, just take your time, take care, photograph everything BEFORE taking it apart / out, make notes (even record yourself), remember Google is your friend for part number recognition, and manuals / PDFs etc.

I like the power supply :)

This is fantastic! Thank you. And your record selection is impressive. I just purchased an R88 identical to yours. You mentioned that you switched it to free play a while ago. How did you switch it to free play? I have the manual but it doesn't say anything about free; it's mostly concerned about the owner getting paid.

Murphy's Law - Corollary: "Within an otherwise service-friendly device, that device will contain at least one (1) instance of unnecessary hard-wiring between the chassis and main board." - (19:01)

can that computer be installed in a Whurlitzer? I was told my jukebox is from the 60's and is one of the first stereos.

on AMI boxes the amp has a mute relay that causes int. audio input from phono. input problems

Oh it is still 360p :( Need to wait little longer till I can watch this :D

Odd, the way the tone arm is set up.. Is cartridge turned around?? Never seen the 45 being pushed into the needle like that..

Hello Fran! I do own an AMI H 200 It is in need of repair/restor. My question for you is if you are aware of manuals for this type of AMIs, and at the same time where to look for parts! I thank you in advance! :O)

@TheJbh222

7 жыл бұрын

Check out victory glass for manuals...they are in Des Moines, Iowa... usually the hardest parts to get are cabinet related, still plenty of mech bits available on the net..check out Durfee coin-op but be quick as he is closing shop in December, unfortunately as he was not a rip-off merchant. I dealt with him for many years.

@cucuca7281

7 жыл бұрын

TheJbh222 thanks for your reply, truly appreciated!

@TheJbh222

7 жыл бұрын

Y.V.W.

Fran😊 that is an amazing jukebox. Does that thing still takes quarters because I would still pay to hear so I'm off that beautiful piece of audio. I love how you preserve to technology and it's a reminder that new doesn't mean better.

you should have Frank Zappa in there. thanks for the teardown.

Fran you are my hero! I have a r 88 just like yours. The K-1 Relay on the pre amp board has an open coil. I can't for the life of me find the exact part 827-202 wabash. Do you have one I can buy from you? you can check out my restorations on my page. Thanks! LMK

Well done, those pcb s look a nightmare

Fortunately, it's an easy problem.... I find more than not, the problems with aging electronics are connection/oxidation related... then after that 35 year threshold, one starts suspecting capacitors.

do thay make a cd changer kit

@azzym312

8 жыл бұрын

+Randy Geller One can put 4000 MP3s on a DVD No changer is needed.

As always, great video! As far as I can see that record with the yellow label you took out has no raised lip. Styrene (styrene groove is easily damaged) 45’s are not so happy if you put them in a juke box due to the needle pressure, the rather low compliance (most certainly if a ceramic cart is on the tone arm) of the cantilever and the huge side pressure the stylus has on the sides of the groove if the record is slightly off centered. All this due to the high friction the tone arm bearings have. Bear also in mind that only round stylus tips must be used and for styrene records it is utterly important that the pressure of the needle in the groove is just above the lightest pressure allowed for that particular cartridge, so not too light either as otherwise the parts with high modulation will simply break causing terrible distortion of the sound. Vinyl (PVC) 45’s are more flexible (styrene is not) and have the raised lip on the edge and they can take a lot more abuse by a juke box than a styrene 45 can. It was not uncommon back in the days that several copies of a title were held in stock by the operator of the juke box so that he could replace the record if it finally wore out. Depending on the state of the needle that could be the case after just 25 plays….I have restored one that had the same mechanism as the one you have. It has, if I remember correctly, a Shure M44 that is one of the best for use in a juke box. My Rock Ola’s have them as well. Greetings from Holland, Willem.

Hey Fran! I just saw the Letterman clip of the Hives. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pZyW2dGkhZO_j8Y.html Holy Shit. Fantastic. That alone is worth the price of admission. Thank you for great videos. The bit about the anti-skating is intriguing. They seemed to be on their toes. And finally, what was that piece of music at the end? That was very cool.

To stop those connectors tarnishing coat the pins with Vaseline, just a light coat, and they will be good to go for ever.

Paging feature= Skating Rink

Fran Blanche, did you notice the already-leaked-it-all capacitor when cleaning the amplifier? check it. www.flulpycrea.com.ar/why.jpg

I want the right to get high by watching your cool videos. :)