Ameritrash game: "haha what a silly and hyperbolic parody of games in that particular genre" Eurogame: "I... I think I've played that game"

@Banjomike97

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah after the first one I thought this is a parody after the second one I have to assume the ameritrash is also just a real game

@ChakiOida

2 жыл бұрын

@@Banjomike97 Oh yeah it is, so many kickstarter boardgames that come out are basically DnD Lite in a way. Lots of dice rolling, lots of minis. If you don't have minis, there's a ton of cards.

@mangamanzx

2 жыл бұрын

I've played that second game as an anime game, like that is literally how you play Heart of Crown

@kerred

2 жыл бұрын

To be exact ProZd uses Suburbia Tiles, Agrciola farmers and vegetable tokens.

@shigerufan1

2 жыл бұрын

Fortress America comes to mind

Ameritrash: play a 10 hour game to lose to a single die roll at the end Euro: play a 10 hour game that you lose in turn 1 because your opponent hate drafted the tile you need to complete a set during final scoring

@Liuhuayue

2 жыл бұрын

*19 hours

@GamingintheAM0801

2 жыл бұрын

I was blown away when my friends and I played Risk the first time. The way it was described to me always had me assume it was some strategy-heavy game for geography nerds, but the reality is that you're essentially calling dibs on countries at random and crossing your fingers that you roll a higher number than the other players. There's no actual tactics involved whatsoever.

@wyn9693

2 жыл бұрын

@@GamingintheAM0801 if you think there's no tactics you've been playing risk wrong my friend. Risk is a game of treaties, shouting matches and yet strangely a stronger friendship afterwards even if you hate their guts at the time

@Makofueled

2 жыл бұрын

@@GamingintheAM0801 meanwhile in Diplomacy

@sammythehamster9093

2 жыл бұрын

I remember first time playing Risk, there was one person who waited till other placd their pieces before shoving his in one area.

Ameritrash: assumes you own additional materials which are not packaged in the game Eurogame: actively condescends to you if you don't know niche trivia

I happen to translate board game rulebooks. This is more accurate than you can imagine. Recently I translated a Euro game that included rules for Menopause and Xenophobia.

@sherbertshortkake6649

Жыл бұрын

What the fridge

@Rynewulf

Жыл бұрын

Are you allowed to say what games? Because they sound wild

@d4n737

Жыл бұрын

You know, historians making board games is more common than you think.... And the thing about historians is they get hung up on EVERY. LITTLE. DETAIL They legit are going to point out that a piece of dirty cloth was found not in a certain town, but in a river that runs right next to it and is currently a part of the town but wasn't 1500 years ago so I'm right and you're wrong.

@GavinG_

Жыл бұрын

@@d4n737 this is 100% accurate. Don’t even get them started on the nuances of people’s clothes and uniforms at the time…

@theautisticguitarist7560

Жыл бұрын

Ah, the genders.

Sounds like someone is afraid of the unrivaled THRILL of having to read the entire history of Europe to trade some fish and lumber for sheep

@seanhennessy3968

2 жыл бұрын

...TRADE FISH?!

@Sky-CladObserver

2 жыл бұрын

@@seanhennessy3968 But only during the Sea Phase

@alexdasliebe5391

2 жыл бұрын

Bro! Can’t trade fish unless you’re aligned with The Brits, or Hessians … or if its the sea-phase.

@alextrollip7707

2 жыл бұрын

Is being colonised by britain good enough to trade fish without being in the sea phase?

@blackknightjack3850

2 жыл бұрын

I trade everything for all the sheep because, if I get enough sheep, then I get the Watame win condition where I did nothing wrong.

"You may trade with wood or iron BUT NOT FISH" for sure sounds like such a legit board game rule

@Sofus.

2 жыл бұрын

I just want to point out, the hessian rule is stupid and should be changed. Here are my new small compact 488 page supplement fix.

@quattrocentobotte

2 жыл бұрын

Brass: Iron can be taken from anywhere on the map when needed by paying the owner at the current iron price. Coal can NEVER teleport. Root: you can move your troops from a place to any adjacent location, provided you control either the origin or the destination. UNLESS you play the Riverfolk, who also define adjacency differently. 18XX: if a company you own goes bankrupt, you are responsible for their debt. UNLESS they are a limited liability company, or they are a partial capitalization company and they have shares available, in which case you may sell them at the current price to cover for their debt. UNLESS selling those shares would cause an illegal price movement across the 2D share price charts, of course. If the company has full capitalization, but owns a minor company as a shell company, and that minor company owns trains of its own, you may exchange trains at a symbolic price between the companies, provided both companies own a legal amount of capital at the beginning of next rounds operating phase. This, of course, provided these trains won't rust at that point, in that case your company will still fail to hold enough trains to operate. Nationalization may ensue at any point in this process, and completely change the value of your property once again. You MAY realize that this is probably more complicated than actual 19th Century finance. You MAY NEVER leave the table.

@sergewind2208

2 жыл бұрын

Actually it's a real rule. In Catan Seafarers expansion, you get fish cards you trade in for bonuses, but never between players.

@malcolm3099

2 жыл бұрын

@@sergewind2208 Fuck I was just gonna say that sounded like a Catan rule lol

@haruhisuzumiya6650

2 жыл бұрын

It's catan

I like how no genre is given the edge in this exchange

@yosefyonin6824

Жыл бұрын

well only one genre has ~victory points~

@MagicMan508

Жыл бұрын

@Yosef Yonin the other genre is board control, and how badly you screwed over/dominated your opponents

@gabeskai

Жыл бұрын

Um, actually, one of them uses a bunch of dice, so I think there a clear winner hear 🤔

@calebklingerman7902

Жыл бұрын

They both sound absolutely terrible

@WolfWalrus

Жыл бұрын

You can tell that Sungwon loves both styles of game

Jamestown components are actually from: Grand Austria Hotel (Game board, Hotel board and white die), Suburbia (tiles), Agicola Revised Edition 2016 (Pumpkin tokens, Wood - not timber - and Stone - not Iron - as well as the blue farmer token) and Wendake (Third board, the one with the British flag). Yes, I'm that nerd.

@serpyllum

11 ай бұрын

Well done.

@aeryellae5837

11 ай бұрын

Also, the 800 page pamphlet included with the game is one of the Berserk Deluxe Edition volumes =P

@fntthesmth423

10 ай бұрын

What about during the Ameritrash section?

@bakaky0

10 ай бұрын

But what about the fish?

@biowiener7825

10 ай бұрын

damn

Ameritrash: Flip a coin to choose who goes first. Eurogame: The player who most resembles a Tsar goes first.

@andrewfsheffield

2 жыл бұрын

I hate when they do cutesy stuff like that, One edition of pandemic had a rule like "The player who most recently missed a day of work because they were sick goes first!" You can tell it's a European game because in America we don't have sick days.

@auberginemanproductions1608

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewfsheffield Alternatively, you could just not adhere to that and do youngest first or something.

@KuroDHero

2 жыл бұрын

in binding of isaac four souls (an american game) the saddest player goes first

@fireaza

2 жыл бұрын

Oh boy! All that in-breeding is finally paying off!

@leahbeah1585

2 жыл бұрын

@@KuroDHero yes, have a half hour discussion before the game about your trauma to see who is the most depressed.

"What happens when you have tie in Jamestown" "You then take the dice.... and place it at a 2 to represent the fact there are two winners

@Spamsgood

2 жыл бұрын

Omg 😳 lmao 🤣 you had me in the first half

@Zyk0th

2 жыл бұрын

You go to war, by playing a game of Risk. There is no dice required in Risk.

@cam4636

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zyk0th You must first tally all of your resources except fish to determine your allies as listed in the 3rd table of the 7th appendix of the pamphlet. You may then determine who declares war first. There will be *no dice.* Victory is determined through V I C T O R Y P O I N T S

@TheErnieforss

2 жыл бұрын

Obvious it goes to the owner who owns the most bigoted fish. Here's a book on why, and an apology of the creators why bigots win.

@felixflauta416

2 жыл бұрын

Cannibalism

War of the War is the average shooting phase for a single squad of Orks

@ElvenSonic

Жыл бұрын

and only three of those dice actually hit, two of them did damage, but the opponent saved on both.

@baronprocrastination1722

Жыл бұрын

@@ElvenSonic aka, a single massive group of Lootas targeting a single target with dense cover. I'm still salty from that game.

@matteorossi1172

Жыл бұрын

War of THE HAMMER OF THE WAR OF 2040000K

@baron2062

Жыл бұрын

@@ElvenSonic clearly you havent actually been faced with a true shoota boys army. That shit is so fuckin fun to play

@wafflestcattash4818

Жыл бұрын

or more accurately… WAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH DAAAKA DAAAKKA DAKKKA DAKKA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH

As a Warhammer player, I appreciate the large quantities of dice being thrown at the board.

@superspecky4eyes

7 ай бұрын

As an Ork player, I feel personally attacked.

@adamn8156

7 ай бұрын

@@superspecky4eyes Same, I play Imperial Guard. I barely have enough dice to roll all my attacks

@wrathofautumn

5 ай бұрын

As a warhammer ork player, I feel attacked. Rolling this amount of dice is important for my Dakka!

Ah yes, Europe's greatest export. Victory points.

@wtr3059

2 жыл бұрын

How do you think we conquered the world?

@knuppel8875

2 жыл бұрын

@@contrapasso1539 Dont forget each war you lose a colony in south africa too.

@Rhidcully

2 жыл бұрын

Well... I am German. 😔

@Madcapredcap

2 жыл бұрын

@@contrapasso1539 Do you ever use dice

@Full_Otto_Bismarck

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget their other great export. The Racist Parts That Nobody Asked For.

I'm going to need to read that 800 page educational pamphlet to figure out why the university is generating pumpkins, aren't I?

@PlayMadness

2 жыл бұрын

That's in a separate pamphlet.

@random-mister912

2 жыл бұрын

@@PlayMadness Yeah, it's in volume 367, unfortunately you can't skip any pages because every page explains why the university generates pumpkins. ..there are 9,638,183 pages in that one.

@freeheeler00

2 жыл бұрын

I feel this is an underrated inquiry.

@alphu5

2 жыл бұрын

hoho silly ameritrash. You need the novel of Limpithicus volume 5 to understand that the University is the election module for the pumpkin recollectors in 1752 only not 1753 or 1751.

@Ultrakilltree

2 жыл бұрын

Let me teach you a secret if you want to figure out how the game properly works in only a 15 page summary turn to page 6,782 of volume 237, *unless* your playing on the 2008 edition.

the second one is specifically a german board game. A british board game would be a highly intricate simulation of the war for north africa fought using 27 seperate boards, a 15 book long rule book detailing weapon profiles, logistics tables and the weather, and the game will last over 7 days.

@EvilDoresh

Жыл бұрын

Are you talking about _The Campaign for North Africa_ here? (Don't forget that the Italians consume more water than other factions because they use pasta for rations, and you can't eat pasta without boiling water.)

@DougsDrone-jv4wf

8 ай бұрын

@@EvilDoresh I mean, you can reuse that water... ARGH OK! NEVERMIND!

@thejuiceking2219

8 ай бұрын

i'm pretty sure the first one was a british board game

@JackgarPrime

8 ай бұрын

Bold of you to assume you can finish a game of Campaign for North Africa in only 7 days.

@impguardwarhamer

7 ай бұрын

@@JackgarPrime you can if you're not a pussy

Traditional Japanese games: You play using these oddly shaped pieces that are both beautifully ornamental and entirely illegible. This barely distinct piece can move in four directions unless it is beyond this line, after which it can move in 3 directions, then 1, and then it becomes Grand Diamond General Demonking and can move in three dimensions as it pleases. This is different for all pieces and you must memorize them all. If you gather two Ox 4 chips, a Summer Chrysanthemum and a 2, 6, 8 red dragon, you can call "Guh!" to double your Fupa. This is but one of 56 hands you can play for the East Wind, not counting the 3x56 other hand combinations that exist depending on what part of the compass you are sitting on at the table. If you Phon'd your Kengo in the second-to-last round, you can play as Fudo Myo'O the central wind and sit on top of the table.

@ArkThePieKing

11 ай бұрын

Underrated comment and it's so frustratingly true lol

@Shenaldrac

11 ай бұрын

Oh is *that* how you play mahjong?!

@Dru_Stephan

11 ай бұрын

@@Shenaldrac Sounds like either mahjong or koi koi, neither of which I understand.

@dragonfan8647

10 ай бұрын

This reminds me too much of my failed attempts to learn shogi and koi-koi

@hazukichanx408

10 ай бұрын

Chinese language: "We're gonna need you to memorize about three thousand individual symbols before you can read or write." Mahjong: "This game is simple, you just need to know these four hundred pages of random shit." I'm beginning to sense a pattern... perhaps these things were invented primarily to export to Japan as a means of trolling...?

American games: WARCRIMES ARE BADASS European games: warcrimes are badass. But we also have an economic gimmick

@Werewolf_Korra

2 жыл бұрын

British Games: Warcrimes are badass, but we also don't credit our artists.

@garyoak317

2 жыл бұрын

Americans: WARCRIMES ARE BADASS AND OUR ECONOMY IS WARCRIMES

@OtakuNoShitpost

2 жыл бұрын

American games: play the warcrime card to do a warcrime Euro games: learn exactly why when and how to do this warcrime

@shawndiaz7528

2 жыл бұрын

First person shooters: warcrimes are badass. But we also have a shooting gimmick

@juice6521

2 жыл бұрын

America: Warcrimes Wooooo USA USA USA Europe: Warcrimes? What Warcrimes?

"You will learn it while playing" -My friends

@spacewargamer4181

2 жыл бұрын

Classic 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@cheesedaemon

2 жыл бұрын

"We will explain it for three hours straight, then we will have pizza, and then it will be time to go home"

@TheDetonadoBR

2 жыл бұрын

@@cheesedaemon "And now that you know how 2 play we'll never play this game again"

@OodldoodlNoodlesocks

2 жыл бұрын

My brother's friend as I played my first Necromunda game where he killed most of my dudes before telling me those deaths carry over into future games and I have to do maths between games to get them back or something.

@Willqer

2 жыл бұрын

*Looks at profile picture.* Now imagine Taker and Malinka trying to play-teach the rest of the house.

"In this expansion to Jamestown, if the player chooses the 'Irish' faction, they cannot go first, cannot promote units, and constantly have a starvation debuff"

@MarioSantos-zx4bj

8 ай бұрын

They also cannot play any card that isn't either 'pub' 'potato plantation' or 'alcohol'

@mrfhd6227

8 ай бұрын

​@@MarioSantos-zx4bjDevestating blight cards are 2.5% as effective against them

@CommandanteRamon

5 ай бұрын

In the "Slavic expansion", you can't build a University, but you have strong "Gopnik" workers... ;-)

@mitchjohnson4714

Ай бұрын

But you get the powerful “population growth” buff.

@CrocvsGator

Ай бұрын

@@mitchjohnson4714 Unless the opponent gets the "Modest Proposal" perk. Then it backfires.

You forgot that for Ameritrash your opponent also uses 5 different command cards that reroll half your dice as well as add a +1 to their saves while having your damage due half because now their survival ability has been doubled for the Mind Phase.

@Mickekzon

Жыл бұрын

The ultimate irony is that Warhammer is an Eurogame.

@Kitsu_Worm

Жыл бұрын

I should really make TTRPG with no dice after seeing this.

@janehrahan5116

11 ай бұрын

@@Mickekzon Catan is american and is the most played "euro game"

@Materialist39

11 ай бұрын

fuckin hate resolving the Mind Phase

@thejuiceking2219

8 ай бұрын

i hate how they removed the diplomacy phase, the roleplaying opportunities were fun

As an avid board game player it hurts how accurate all of this is. The only thing missing is a Kickstarter Board Game with a million plastic minis.

@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852

2 жыл бұрын

WELCOME TO MILLION MINIS! roll your dice move your minis roll your minis move your dice dice your minis move your roll! its as fun as it is asinine!

@dnvnnck

2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to get my game in 3 years !

@Terry_Pie

2 жыл бұрын

@@dnvnnck Three years? You're optimistic.

@dnvnnck

2 жыл бұрын

@@Terry_Pie that's the current date. Should be pushed back again by the end of next quarter, but then they'll launch a new Kickstarter for their other idea.

@jam_plays_games

2 жыл бұрын

Kickstarter... Board Game? Is the board game community actually big enough that it has indie companies and kickstarter campaigns?

Pretty accurate.

@itschef1693

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty accurate.

@georgegoodwin6741

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty accurate.

@Leron...

2 жыл бұрын

Technically there's also separate rules for the solo variant...but I'll leave those for you to discover on your own.

@Gafweebo

2 жыл бұрын

@frostyz8091

2 жыл бұрын

Woah it's watch it played

Somewhere in the distance, Klaus Teuber angrily jots down the idea, along with 9 more expansions for it that costs 100 usd each.

@Gashahn24

Жыл бұрын

RIP btw.

@jesseclark7105

Жыл бұрын

Stefan Feld: "Hey can I copy your homework?"

@dylan8670

5 күн бұрын

Board game designers like to eat, and after their costs, the distributor's cut, and the store's cut, only a fraction the game's sale goes to the designer.

‘There will no dice required for this pamphlet’ made me laugh more than I’d like to admit

I laughed but then I remembered when my dad & uncle played Battle for Stalingrad, over several months, using changes in the stock market for dice rolls

@adamburditt3941

2 жыл бұрын

That actually sounds pretty cool lmao

@alessiobenvenuto5159

2 жыл бұрын

That's Hardcore stuff

@cerberus9711

2 жыл бұрын

Your dad and uncle are hardcore and I respect them

@BeesechurgerProductions

2 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of a game of Diplomacy a group of friends and I played over chat for about a year straight, that only ended when we realized we'd managed to re-negotiate ourselves back to the default starting borders.

@Eldor-117

2 жыл бұрын

Thats an elite pro board gamer move.

as a german, i have played this exact game before and lost my mind over the three hundred over complicated rules and historically accurate scenarios

@Susul-lj2wm

2 жыл бұрын

as a german I declare you WEAK. go read the rulebook 5 more times

@umbranoctis4348

2 жыл бұрын

I don't remember anything about the game, but those PUMPKINS look incredibly familiar

@ephemera...

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha I love this comment

@JW-ws4op

Жыл бұрын

@@umbranoctis4348 Reminds me of the pumpkins (vegetables) from Caverna.

@ManiyaVinas

Жыл бұрын

How can you get not bored of this

Exploding dice is a real mechanic, if anyone wasn't aware. I'm familiar with it from the TTRPG Savage Worlds, where rolling a 6 means you keep that result and reroll the dice. Yes, sometimes dice can explode multiple times. Never when you really need them to, of course.

@emi_is_absent

8 ай бұрын

it's the highest number on the dice in SWADE, not necessarily 6. though i think there was an old version of Deadlands that only used d6

@schattenwind5351

5 ай бұрын

In our last round of Chaos in the old World, some lone warriors repeatedly made 4 hits with a single die...

@kevinschultz6091

5 ай бұрын

@@emi_is_absent - Might have been an Alpha - I owned all the original Deadlands games, and they used the full d4-d12 (plus a d20 for hit location).

@yakobsoulstorm5187

3 ай бұрын

This is a plot point in TTS where a severely underleveled character keeps rolling 20s leading to his sword strike obliterating the boss from the fabric of reality.

After watching this multiple times, I just realised Sungwon only ever recorded 'Victory Points' once, and just replayed it for the other three times.

"Then you roll three dice to see how many dice you roll with" -Ben Wyatt, on the rules of Cones of Dunshire

@bookshelfhoney

2 жыл бұрын

It's all about the cones

@HackWeight

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking of when I saw this

@AutumnWoodham

2 жыл бұрын

If my D&D experiences have taught me anything, it's that when someone roles three dice and then more dice, it's a bad sign.

@c0horst

2 жыл бұрын

Literally warhammer 40k, lol. My squad of Assault Centurions has 10 flamers... roll 10 dice to see how many dice you get to roll for attacks!

@Brabbel93

2 жыл бұрын

@@c0horst seriously? XD

American games: Punch your friends in the FACE and call them ASSHOLES Euro games: Never look your fellow players in the eye, and only interact with them by sometimes taking 1 coin.

@Niko-pd5yh

2 жыл бұрын

It really is cultural ;u;

@L3X1N

2 жыл бұрын

And the Euro games' interactions feel, somehow, *more* personal.

@vayalond7203

Жыл бұрын

@@L3X1N Because it has several turns of preplanning before it, it's not a simple interaction but a full Treason

It has taken me multiple times of watching this to realize... I think ProZD actually says "After 19 real-time *owls* have passed" and that is such an incredibly subtle joke I love it so much.

The best part for me is, he portrayed both styles of games in a hilarious way that I can't even tell if he likes one of them more than the other.

Ameritrash: Secretely teaching maths. Eurogames: Secretely teaching law.

@lsw3364

Жыл бұрын

If only there were games that secretely taught spelling

@neuffatator

Жыл бұрын

Yes but in America we just say "math", not "maths".

@jasonports8517

Жыл бұрын

@@lsw3364 scrabble

@seymourglass26

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonports8517 He was correcting your spelling of "Secretly" in a super-fun, passive-aggressive way.

@thepotatoportal69

Жыл бұрын

@@neuffatator Bro probably isn't American

The way he uses the same sound byte every time he says “Victory Points” was a nice touch

@BeybladeASMRreviews

2 ай бұрын

He umm... he doesnt tho...

I am realizing that 40k is both of these. "For combat, roll 100 dice and count how many are above your ballistic score. Then proceed to the next 3 combat phases, including the psychic phase, the charge phase, and the fight phase. After your combat, proceed to the command phase, where you will tally up victory points based off the location of your models in relation to the objectives, and also to the sub objectives you picked at the begining of the game that relate to the intricate lore of your army(please read the codex for more information). The victor is determined at the end of round 5 by who has the most victory points. One solid way to ensure you have the most points at the end of the game is to WIPE THEM OFF THE BOARD by rolling ONE MILLION DICE in your shooting phase(engages Tau high output burst cannons)"

@mslabo102s2

10 ай бұрын

Now THAT'S how you get a massive audience.

@CyarSkirata

6 ай бұрын

The mere mention of tau always reminds me of the only game of 40k I ever watched, in which a single basic Tau drone killed a Tyranid hive tyrant one-on-one in melee.

@JeepnHeel

5 ай бұрын

Sounds fun, but are Tau aligned with the British or Hessians? I really wanna trade this fish

@thejuiceking2219

Ай бұрын

i mean it's british, britain's basically where europe and america interject

Dude, I died at "You may negotiate using timber und iron. But NOT FISH!!!"

@Mis7erSeven

7 ай бұрын

Fish is only allowed during the sea phase UNLESS you are alligned with the British or Hessian army. There will be NO DICE required for this pamphlet :P

The single "wat" from the dice-lover just made it

@kaderloop785

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Tim! I love your channel!

@FredHMusic-gr7nu

2 жыл бұрын

Sup Tim!

@tarrasquescroll9385

2 жыл бұрын

@@FredHMusic-gr7nu Team soup, for English speakers

@joshbishop

2 жыл бұрын

Ayyyy fancy seeing you on this part of town!

@Galuna

2 жыл бұрын

My favourite part is when his accent slips when he says 'no dice' the third time.

Ashamed to admit how long it took me to realize Jamestown was satire…

@diegotejada55

2 жыл бұрын

You shouldn't be ashamed, it's just that ridiculously accurate

@AvalonRegarnished

2 жыл бұрын

It confused me because I think there is a real game called Jamestown

@K4RN4GE911

2 жыл бұрын

@@AvalonRegarnished Yeah, except the one I'm thinking of was a fun as Hell side scrolling shoot-em-up!

@AllUpOns

2 жыл бұрын

The Suburbia hex tiles didn't give it away?

@irokosalei5133

2 жыл бұрын

Is it ? I'd play this game

I find it ironic that a lot of the mechanics mentioned in the Ameritrash portion are found in Warhammer 40K, a game from the British company Games Workshop.

@8thlvlMage

Жыл бұрын

The answer is Warhammer was made in the 90's (maybe earlier?) where the only gimmick/hook any game designers had thought of was "Roll more dice." The 90's answer to everything was generally "more of that thing." 😄

@Rynewulf

Жыл бұрын

@@8thlvlMage it was the early 80's wasnt it?

@Rynewulf

Жыл бұрын

They learned our ways, again. Sorry about that old chap, the bad habits seem to rub in the family

@vincenturquhart1370

8 ай бұрын

thats because eurogames are actually just german lol

@Jupiter-T

8 ай бұрын

@@8thlvlMage Yeah and now everything is Catan.

Have you already seen the world record attempt for the fastest match of Jamestown? Some madlad was able to finish it and win in just 3 days, 22 hours and 47 minutes of continous playing, and managed to fall asleep only eighteen times! Thats two world records in one games. Pretty impressive stuff.

@davidb7406

10 ай бұрын

But did he do it with the latest expansion? The one that a new phase that involves writing a dissertation on the impact of the Peace of Westphalia on modern international diplomacy? Cause if he didn't, should it even really count?

eurogames: ‘Why would you throw dice? That is so barbaric.’

@Whurlpuul

2 жыл бұрын

*Julius Caesar has left the chat*

@andyb9720

2 жыл бұрын

Games Workshop monopolized all the dice in Europe for use in Warhammer cornering the market on dice production. To survive other games had to adapt to non-dice rolling systems.

@robeseller6530

2 жыл бұрын

@@andyb9720 for real?

@TheDarkChaplain

2 жыл бұрын

@@robeseller6530 No. It's a joke because Warhammer traditionally escalates the dice rolling. Rolling 50 dice in an assault phase for a single unit isn't unusual, and it's slowed games down to an insane degree. ....and then they make something like Apocalypse for 40k, which is basically "put your entire collection on the table and buy more dice" and recommend to take an entire weekend off to actually finish a game. Spoiler alert: It probably won't be enough time anyway.

@fraser1614

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheDarkChaplain honestly it's why I prefer age of sigmar at this point, I don't actively want to shoot myself playing it as the rules are fairly easy and simple to understand. Though some of 40k bloat has started to infect aos

I wasn't expecting to see such an accurate representation of these kinds of tabletop games in under 2 minutes.

@michaellooks8397

2 жыл бұрын

@Lotus *loads report feature with malicious intent*

@Madcapredcap

2 жыл бұрын

The man knows his board games

@pandemicphilly60

Жыл бұрын

IT WAS ONLY 2 MINUTES?!?!?

I love every time he says in the same monotone "Victory Points!"

I love how both games suck in their own unique way, but at the same time... I'd probably play both

Ameritrash: "That's a great plan! Unfortunately, you didn't roll well enough on your Agility test to cross the unstable bridge. Maybe next time." Euro Game: "That's a great plan! Unfortunately, you forgot that the exchange rate for iron is reduced by 25% on the second round after a player triggers the Market Evaluation phase by selling 10 or more total goods during the same round in which another player acquired the Union Contract token. Maybe next time."

@JonathanBarouch

2 жыл бұрын

This is phenomenal

@jackskellingtonsora

2 жыл бұрын

Whoah. I'm pretty sure you just read the real rules for Brass.

@Webhead123

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackskellingtonsora Ah ha! I *knew* there was something about that game that rubbed me the wrong way! ;-)

@epicboxx3838

2 жыл бұрын

India: just roll the dice and move on the board. Get all four, three, or two, or even one of your circles into “home” (yes I’m talking about parcheesi, yes that is he name of it)

@ollih.901

2 жыл бұрын

@@Webhead123 There is a german board game from the 70's, the name is "playboss". The Euro game line could be from the rulebook. In the more complex version of the game you need pen and paper to calculate the taxes and interests you have to pay after each year for credits, loans, union stuff and so on.

Lysanderoth: "King dragon sends his...Victory points"

@derekchristenson5711

2 жыл бұрын

But not his fish!

@whosthisguyagain3153

2 жыл бұрын

There will be no dice required to kill Archibald!

@gwenythice7230

2 жыл бұрын

Ha! I think that enemy got the (victory) point

@The-ix5tb

2 жыл бұрын

My Victory points have been undetected for real 8 hours

@ChrisLeeW00

2 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile Chadicus and Bradicus are rolling fistfuls of dice.

You see, European board games are the theoretical simulation of geopolitics, whilst American board games are just about carrying out quests given to you through fighting in complicated ways .... Wait, I'm beginning to sense a pattern here...

@clipboss8052

8 ай бұрын

Well, Pragmatism is a very American philosophy. And our go-getting attitude is just as responsible for getting us into trouble as it is getting us out of it.

@robinrehlinghaus1944

8 ай бұрын

@@clipboss8052 That may be.

@cheydinal5401

8 ай бұрын

I mean really both are just random mechanics that are *themed* like a "simulation of geopolitics" (which they really do seem to be aiming for) or combat. Like, the dynamics, similar to what happens in say EU4 or other Paradox games (especially EU4 is basically just a board game with tons of bord game mechanics and provinces), are are completely different from anything in the real world, it's just themed in a certain way In board games of course that's inevitable, but for video games tbh I feel like it's unfortunate that basically no game tries to actually have some dynamic from the real world that it tries to truly capture, like how in the negotiation-focused board-game Diplomacy, the negotiation is actually "real" and has similar dynamics to real-world negotiations, or in say World Of Tanks you do actually fight in probably pretty similar ways how squadrons of tanks actually fight against each other (sort of, ish) If you're interested, I and somebody else have been working on an indie economics-centered grand strategy game for 4 years, called War By Other Means. It's still in development but we already have an early, downlodable beta you can theoretically play, you can find us by googling for "War By Other Means discord", where you'll find the server. Eventually we'll also release it on Steam though, so no need to download a sketchy file from a stranger, but you can wait on the server if you like and take a look

The Fact That You Roll 20 D6's and if any 2 dice match you rool 20 more, makes going to the next phase impossible

@joshuashelley9481

8 ай бұрын

Well, you only reroll if different numbers match each time. That means at most 7 rolls total, unless you use one of your ammo caches to call in a supply drop to let you start the whole rolling phase over again from scratch.

What they both have in common: an unreasonable amount of time spent determining what the result of that single move you just made actually is.

@MClilypad

2 жыл бұрын

And after moving 13 pieces from 7 different locations you discover that your move was illegal, so you have to reset everything and find a new move.

@sourwitch2340

2 жыл бұрын

@@MClilypad Better yet: You make the above move and go over it and think it's legal. And then as you check if another thing you did later on was fine, you find that little sentence that topples everything you did ten turns ago.

@SageArdor

2 жыл бұрын

@@sourwitch2340 precisely why I do not believe more complexity makes a game better. if complexity comes at the expense of comprehension, it's just cumbersome

@sourwitch2340

2 жыл бұрын

@@SageArdor eh. I mean complexity doesn't always come at the price of comprehension, and simplicity can come at the price of being boring or at least little engaging. Betrayal on House on the Hill for example is a fairly complicated game but it works because it's well-composed and that fits into the more roleplay-esque premise. Basically, tldr; some games can do complex, some can't. What matters is that your rules work for your game. A quick and fun family game Uno would not be if it had 25 special cards, but if done well that could turn it into a weird party game, even with repeated referencing of rules involved, and especially if the confusion caused by that is effectively intentional.

@lowcostfish

2 жыл бұрын

@@SageArdor Complexity can make a game a bit slower on your first game or two, and can sometimes lead to some misplays when you're still unfamiliar with the rules. Even in those first few games, appropriate complexity makes for such a good experience. And when you're familiar with the game, it's amazing. Complexity can be great in a tabletop game but a side effect is that it takes some learning and referencing the rules.

Looks like no one told EA about the NO Dice rule

@TheJorFour

2 жыл бұрын

Not where I expected to find a wild Patterrz, maybe it's a randomiser 👍

@greenapple9477

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheJorFour I've seen him here before, he's basically all over teh place.

@NathanJ666

2 жыл бұрын

It’s EA not EU

@yourboi5492

2 жыл бұрын

Pay to unlock no dice rule!

@Feral174

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Slugmanuts died for 30$

The first one is simple but incredibly arduous (Usually involves some sort of lottery mechanic too), the second has rules which freeze your brain and make you feel the need to call a professional lawyer before and after every move you make.

I love that the euro game can be beaten by one player getting a slight advantage and just not making a move for the remaining time.

@novozal

Жыл бұрын

"If your turn lasts for longer than 1 minute, your colonists start to eat each other and you lose all your [Victory Points]"

@emblemblade9245

6 ай бұрын

I definitely don’t understand how lol

@kevinschultz6091

5 ай бұрын

@@emblemblade9245 - one of the flaws in a lot of European games is that you are essentially setting up an intricate clockwork machine to generate victory tokens (which is fun and fine - that's the point), but a single decision made early in the game will cause you to loose, but the actual endgame still takes 3 hours to get to, so you're stuck playing a game you know you have no chance of winning. There are some possible ways of addressing this with some game mechanics (ie, catchup game mechanics), but it tends to be a hallmark of the genre.

@NakAlienEd

5 ай бұрын

@@kevinschultz6091 Ah, so Monopoly?

@kevinschultz6091

5 ай бұрын

@@NakAlienEd - yes, in the sense they're in the same genre (vague simulation of a historical or economic principle), as Monopoly was originally created by a socialist to prove a point about capitalism. The point being "getting ahead is really a matter of luck, but once you're there you can use your advantageous position to really screw people over using monopolistic powers, and there's really nothing anyone else can do to stop you." (ie, one of the explicit rules is that once you run out of a resource - such as houses or hotels, you can't get any more: so it makes sense to buy them up as quickly as possible, so others can't get them.)

American table-top games: So I heard you like dice and randomness. European table-top games: So I heard you like power gaming and ruining friendships.

@ChocoHearts

2 жыл бұрын

Monopoly: why not both?

@adrianseanheidmann4559

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChocoHearts I fucking hate monopoly.

@fluffydragon1525

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChocoHearts ah, capitalism

@rainawareness1495

2 жыл бұрын

The fuck is power gaming?

@bigmoe9856

2 жыл бұрын

@@rainawareness1495 doing every little thing to gain an advantage just to win and possibly arguing against any disadvantages or flaws.

Jamestown has the nastiest art you'll ever see on a board game cover, but is mechanic bliss for purists.

@thewhyzer

2 жыл бұрын

What are you talking about, Jamestown is one of the best looking pixelart bullet hell shmups!

"there will be no dice required for this phase" I love that part with the hopeful smile and then the disappointment

The Tchaikovsky Nutcracker music in the second part was just the perfect touch

"Unless you are aligned with the British or Hessian armies" makes me laugh every time

@skuddingomcwinters6119

Жыл бұрын

So is fish is a situational resource? I think after the game ages, all the fish pieces will get lost cause no one wants to read the resources section of the 800 page guide.

@mollusckscramp4124

Жыл бұрын

I was so surprised to hear myself say after the mention of an 800 page manual "Actually... I would like to know why" lmao

@Conorator

Жыл бұрын

@@skuddingomcwinters6119 I would think that the most used pieces would get lost, due to somebody picking it up, dropping it while moving it, it rolling onto the floor and then under a piece of furniture, never to be seen again. The unused pieces would end up just sitting in the box forever.

@DougsDrone-jv4wf

8 ай бұрын

@@Conorator Every avid gamer needs a 3D printer, which are relatively very affordable these days. This goes x10 for avid Warhammer 40K players.

@Conorator

8 ай бұрын

@@DougsDrone-jv4wf Don't the cheaper 3D printers print in less detail? For how detailed Warhammer 40K miniatures are, I'd be surprised if a lower end 3D printer could stand up to that level of quality.

Lysanderoth, quietly playing board games, nervously watching to see if Dennis tracked him to the Board Game Dimension next.

@cristaltophat

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe Dennis can't do it till he rolls higher then a one in James Town

@agentCDE

2 жыл бұрын

"Wait, if the total trade of iron exceeds the number of fish caught, then the victory points go to-" "YES, IT WAS I! MY MACHINATIONS LAY UNDETECTED FOR SEVERAL TURNS, FOR I AM A MASTER OF DECEP-"

@MrAuthor3DS

2 жыл бұрын

Wait, is this a secret timeline where Lysanderoth's voice was less baritone and more Germanic?

@BigBoy257

2 жыл бұрын

@@cristaltophat NO DICE IN JAMESTOWN!!!!

@cristaltophat

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigBoy257 Exactly 😈

Eurogame: The sinews of war is infinite money. We are here to create. Ameritrash: The sinews of money is infinite war. We are here to destroy.

@swissarmyknight4306

Жыл бұрын

I'd like to solve the puzzle: They're two different faces of colonialism.

@willow5945

Жыл бұрын

Talisman: The sinews of war and money is the Crown of Command. We are here to go get it.

I love that clock with the birds. My great aunt had one when I was growing up, and seeing it always brings back tons of memories

@Jupiter-T

7 ай бұрын

Same! Is this a great aunt thing?

@sleepybakura

6 ай бұрын

i had this clock as a kid, was so surprised to see it!

me and my family used to play Carcassonne all the time growing up, and the "now with wheat" joke about expansions is incredibly accurate

@queencyrys6309

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like i must have played carcassonne wrong when i played it because my game lasted 50 minutes and i felt confident in what i was doing, which meant i was definitely fucking up somewhere

@crungus.5427

2 жыл бұрын

@@queencyrys6309 to be fair, I don't think carcassonne is actually that hard to pick up! I've not really played any other "euro games" but I get the impression that it's a lot simpler than most, so there's every chance you were doing fine haha. I mostly just find it funny how the majority of the gameplay is just stuff like placing dudes in fields and it still manages to be consistently really exciting

@somerandomgamer8504

Жыл бұрын

Carcassonne is certainly a lot easier comparatively; still play it on my phone sometimes, and used to play it a lot vs my mother. I remember there was a River expansion pack, so that seems fitting

@erilovegrove1622

Жыл бұрын

I remember crying over Carcassone when I was 8 LMAO. We bought an extension pack with rivers i think.

@ParasiticTruth

Жыл бұрын

@@queencyrys6309 kzread.info/dash/bejne/dn5mtctro82ufrw.html

"There will be no dice required for this pamphlet" was great, because even the dice guy had a look that was kinda like "reading this PROBABLY doesn't take dice, but I do REALLY want to use it..."

@Slasgo

2 жыл бұрын

@@cube4547 I saw no human beings, only the husk of a creature suffering from fatal dice deprivation

@RabidHobbit

2 жыл бұрын

"the dice guy", love it

@RabidHobbit

2 жыл бұрын

@@cube4547 pretty sure Mike is talking about the character (Euro gentleman and Ameritrash dude)

@Slasgo

2 жыл бұрын

@@cube4547 So you're saying you can't praise, for example, the writing in a movie because one person wrote the script and the acting intentionally complimented it?

@majickman

2 жыл бұрын

@@cube4547 You sound fun at parties.

As someone who often plays Catan with 4 expansions 7 rulebooks and around 5 hours of playtime with my family, this is too accurate

American games: Roll to use a spell!!! Euro games: Roll to determine the acidity of the soil on the 100 acres of farmland that you wish to sell to another player. Then barter for the dowry for your Daughter who will be wed to the other player's son on the eve of the town's greatest tragedy and determine if the whole village contracts the plague at the bi-annual celebration before harvesting your crop of barley.

@hoffedemann5370

Жыл бұрын

Wrong. There aren't any dice in a euro game

@revimfadli4666

Жыл бұрын

@@hoffedemann5370 Catan

@Pigmachine2000

3 ай бұрын

catan is american@@revimfadli4666

Euro games do like their economic trade management gameplay. Anyone want to trade to a Brick for 2 wood?

@freakymoejoe2

2 жыл бұрын

A brick for TWO wood? IN THIS ECONOMY?

@frankcastello9320

2 жыл бұрын

Nah I have a settlement on a port, so I'm good. Got any rocks, though?

@cathulu7975

2 жыл бұрын

Three wood and you've got yourself a deal

@zetworp1

2 жыл бұрын

I'm fine on lumber. I'll give you a brick for a sheep though.

@wolfstar1253

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry I only got three copper. Do you know what the exchange rate is?

Keep an eye out for our next expansion, "Jamestown: Decline into Tourism"!

@endel12

2 жыл бұрын

Ouch, gonna need to roll a fortitude save for that burn

@cannotthinkofaname7904

2 жыл бұрын

I still have my copy of "Jamestown: The 4th grade school field trip" which includes the "Unexpectedly enthusiastic cannibalism" pack

@randomsandwichian

2 жыл бұрын

Also the expansion, "Jamestown: Descent into Capitalism"

@merrittanimation7721

2 жыл бұрын

"Jamestown: Get burned down by bacon."

@Blueturtle1

2 жыл бұрын

@@endel12 fortitude?? What are you? A caveman? Constitution is where it’s at

I cannot tell you how many times I have come back to this video; every part of the skit is perfect

I got Jamestown confused with Jonestown at first and was simultaneously relieved and disappointed by what the actual game turned out to be.

@jam_plays_games

Жыл бұрын

The objective of za game iz to obtain “Victory Kool-Aid”

@pineappleTARDIS

Жыл бұрын

Same I was bracing myself for a kool-aid joke 😅

"There will be no dice required for this pamphlet" is perhaps one of the funniest lines I've ever heard

@Bedinsis

11 ай бұрын

He didn't say "pamphlet", he said "part".

@Shenaldrac

11 ай бұрын

@@Bedinsis No, listen again. He says pamphlet at that part.

@Bedinsis

11 ай бұрын

@@Shenaldrac *rewatches*... Huh, you're right at one of the instances he does indeed say "pamphlet". For the rest he says "phase", not "part". My bad.

@Shenaldrac

11 ай бұрын

@@Bedinsis No worries! Thanks for admitting it instead of just doubling down like a lot of people do online. Stay cool!

The German accent completes this at the spiritual level.

@Matzkxmx

2 жыл бұрын

I vould take offense but i love zat game

@MarzipanCat.

2 жыл бұрын

This is not an accurate German accent

@hildegunstvonmythenmetz6095

2 жыл бұрын

Wasn´t he supposed to be *extremely* British?

@rotomfan63

2 жыл бұрын

That and "Victory Points" played in a weird stopping way like it's the same recording each time but for those two words

@shadebinder3599

2 жыл бұрын

@@hildegunstvonmythenmetz6095 no this is definitely a German accent. Or what we perceive as a German accent in the US anyways

Y'know what, checking your opponent's favourite food kinda makes sense for a zombie game.

The European guy sounds like Hans Gruber from Die Hard.

The victory points are essential, how else am I meant to know I’m winning?

@WideMouth

2 жыл бұрын

Checkmate! Wait…

@eldorados_lost_searcher

2 жыл бұрын

I heard that in Werner Herzog's voice.

@BobertJoe

2 жыл бұрын

Thats the trick with Euro games- You dont! Until the very end. Because the victory points only give a very rough approximation of who is in the lead, some of the time.

@ammarlalji5208

2 жыл бұрын

But you forget each player has hidden objetives that change the worth of victory points there for the number you see is meaningless

@a.wosaibi

2 жыл бұрын

with DICE!!!!

Julius Caesar: "the die is cast" Eurogames: we dont do that here.

@jeffreyallers336

2 жыл бұрын

Well, Alea Iacta Est (literally, "the die has been cast") is a Euro-style dice rolling game! As well as Kingsburg, etc.

@matttondr9282

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffreyallers336 Lol I was about to say 😂

@davidwuhrer6704

2 жыл бұрын

That explains why, after crossing the Rubicon, Caesar coundln't find anyone to fight for three days and had to go back.

My favorite thing about this video is that I just used it to explain Warhammer 40k to a friend, and the explanation was, imagine a game that is both of these games.

I find that most of my american boardgames actually take longer than euro games.

@EvilDoresh

Жыл бұрын

It's cause they're more random. Sometimes they're shorter, but you'll usually remember those times they went on forever

“Thank you Jamestown, for sponsoring this video” is what I was expecting.

This makes me want a euro styled zombie game where you are really managing resources and an American styled construction game set up harvesting is done like combat.

@konnosx1213

2 жыл бұрын

Now i imagine a frazetta-like cover of a manly buff dude holding a scythe standing on top of a pile of dead... wheat

@EvilGuacamoleGaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@konnosx1213 love it.

@TheJP100

2 жыл бұрын

A famous man once said: You think you do, but you don't.

@bardofvoid174

2 жыл бұрын

Idk if it's euro-styled, but Rebuild 2 comes to mind (Though it's not a board game)

@Islaras

2 жыл бұрын

Love this.

This is the best made video on the differences between types of board games I've ever seen. It was laugh out loud funny and you've got a great talent for comedy! Many thanks!

I love that in zombiedemic you roll 20 dice and only 3 of the dice he is holding are d20s, which means you would roll additional dice forever.

@emlmm88

Жыл бұрын

Yep lol. Pigeonhole principle

@emlmm88

Жыл бұрын

@@theAstarrr It’s funnier if it’s iterative.

That exasperated "WHAT?" after being told the die is only used as a place maker is absolutely hilarious.

If you combined the games you would have racist zombies and exploding fish. Sounds like a Magic: the Gathering set.

@wisetree8330

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds fun

@MagnusCantRead

2 жыл бұрын

Racist zombie (3)🖤🖤 When racist zombie enters the battlefield all non-zombie creatures gain -1/-1, all zombie creatures gain +1/+1 2/3

@MagnusCantRead

2 жыл бұрын

Exploding fish (1)💙💙 Instant Deal 3 damage divided amongst 3 targets

@GarmrKiDar

2 жыл бұрын

or a Lovecraft story

@OrigamiAhsoka

2 жыл бұрын

Ikr

This is why I like 40k its the perfect mix of both aka eurotrash

@gregoryhayes7569

Жыл бұрын

40K is neither Ameritrash nor a Eurogame. It's a wargame, which has been recognized as distinct from both of those for a very long time.

@CaptainRegular

Жыл бұрын

@@gregoryhayes7569 He was making a joke, dink.

Can we get Jamestown going on kickstarter? I’ll happily pay extra for the “Now with Wheat” and “The Racist Parts that Nobody Asked For” expansions.

"There will be no dice required for this phase" contains the same energy as "I think that enemy got the point"

@W0lfbaneShikaisc00l

2 жыл бұрын

No way too much energy... I think the same energy would be something like: Oh look she's asleep... WAKE UP! Or explaining how many cheese tokens the dairy farm needs... that fits perfectly.

I feel so incredibly attacked. *rolls defense dice*

@tappajaav

2 жыл бұрын

*You rolled unnatural 20*

@DS-tv2fi

2 жыл бұрын

I see your defence dice, and I raise you an Uno Reverse Card.

@DS-tv2fi

2 жыл бұрын

@@contrapasso1539 Not if you reverse the polarity of the neutron flow first.

@davidwuhrer6704

2 жыл бұрын

@@DS-tv2fi You have activated my trap card!

@duraluminiumalloy9248

2 жыл бұрын

I too feel incredibly attacked *assigns one of 5 agents to the builder's hall to collect 2 accumulated victory points and to build a source of cleric-type worker that the other players may use for a turn if they pay me 2 gold pieces, or a single victory point*

All true. To quote famous German football (not soccer!) player Lukas Podolski: "Football is like chess, just without the dice". Have a good day.

@seawind930

Жыл бұрын

Wow, we have a really similar game over here called Soccer, glad Europe is picking things up from our culture

@theharold5948

Жыл бұрын

Football, but not soccer football? So he's a German guy who plays American football?

@dissect123

Жыл бұрын

@@theharold5948 he is a German football player. I meant to indicate that we use the correct term "football" to describe the sport instead of the wrong term "soccer".

@dissect123

Жыл бұрын

@@seawind930 you know the difference between a yogurt and the US? The yogurt has a culture.

@theharold5948

Жыл бұрын

@@dissect123 regional dialects have left the chat

I love that the Euro that you chose......Grand Austria Hotel....actually uses dice extensively throughout the game!! Hilarious stuff

@EvilDoresh

Жыл бұрын

The classic Settlers of Catan also used dice - but not just _any_ dice. It's 2d6 aka a glorious bell curve

I am reminded of a board game about the Russian Civil war, which in the set up phase alone asked the players to place every notable general, leader, and figure in their historically accurate position.

@bf15thairborn

2 жыл бұрын

Any link or name to that game? I love that era of history!

@aciad1703

2 жыл бұрын

@@bf15thairborn it was originally released in a magazine, and is almost certainly out of any form of print but I will check If I remember

@Daniea3

2 жыл бұрын

Please post when you get the name. Thanks.

@ericromano8078

2 жыл бұрын

So 6 feet under?

@ComradeHellas

2 жыл бұрын

amazing

Never been a big fan of Jamestown tbh, really losing the competitive market by not implementing a total dice score. Really gotta keep up with the times by adding 20 more dice.

@hihey229

2 жыл бұрын

found the American

@AnnaMorimoto

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

Fantastic execution! I did find myself wanting to know what actual games those boards were from, as I seem to not have any of them.

@jakemiller1386

Жыл бұрын

The map and pumpkin he used in the Eurogame is from a game called Wendake.

@danielsopel7832

Жыл бұрын

Eurogame boards are from Grand Austria Hotel. You serve cakes to guests.

@Infyra

Жыл бұрын

Tiles for auction are from suberbia, minis look like a version of zombicide and the ameritrash board looks like a stealth game like specter ops.

@jeffwei

Жыл бұрын

The clock is a reference to Wingspan

@skiesbleed

Жыл бұрын

The Ameritrash board looks like Specter Ops to me.

You’re videos are so entertaining and clever. Your comedic brilliance and satiric commentary are excellent. Love the awesome work you do.

Euro games are so allergic to dice, that in order to decide who goes first they usually have some dumb scheme like "Whoever traveled most recently!"

@titanuranus3095

2 жыл бұрын

I remember playing one game where whoever had the largest hands went first.

@WideMouth

2 жыл бұрын

I usually ignore those dumb “whoever did or has such and such goes first” rules and either make the person teaching the game go first or have everyone roll a dice.

@titanuranus3095

2 жыл бұрын

@@WideMouth take it up with Billy Big-Mitts

@spacewargamer4181

2 жыл бұрын

I remember one that was like "the better person goes first" or something like that 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@lace_mononym

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I like that. It's cute when they try and link the first player to the game, e.g. ticket to ride "most recently been on a train" or whatever. I do ignore it and just use the chwazi app, but still

I love how they’re both unecessarily complicated lol

@revimfadli4666

Жыл бұрын

"heavy" games be like:

@rileymcphee9429

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for saying it. Too many good games now are bogged down by six or seven layers of rules and extraneous mechanics.

@revimfadli4666

Жыл бұрын

@@rileymcphee9429 and that gives a bad impression to non-gamers

@rileymcphee9429

Жыл бұрын

@@revimfadli4666 often i go to watch a How To Play video and tune out after the first 3-4 minutes when they go into the third phase with seven win conditions. Modern games seem to lack an elegance that most players will find inaccessible.

@revimfadli4666

Жыл бұрын

@@rileymcphee9429 exactly! And somehow that includes cozy games meant for casual players

I’m going to say “victory points”like that every time I teach my wife a Euro game from now on.

I can't believe it took me this long to realize this, but if you roll 20 six-sided dice, its impossible for there not to be matching dice. Meaning your turn would never progress and you would just keep rolling dice in sets of 20 forever.

@user-qi6pv9jh7o

10 ай бұрын

Let computers roll everything

@tbotalpha8133

8 ай бұрын

@@user-qi6pv9jh7o No, you don't get it. The dice have only 6 sides. You're rolling 20 of them. To avoid re-rolling, every dice you roll would have to have a unique result. But that's impossible - there's only 6 unique results possible. So even if the first 6 dice gave unique rolls, every die after that would have to match one of the first 6.

@webbowser8834

5 ай бұрын

Today on "The Pidgeonhole Principle", aka that one thing you probably figured out in Elementary School but for some reason you'll never hear about in class until you take a college level CS or Statistics class.

Accurate. I love Eurogames for the mechanics, but my god the themes are usually so boring: pig farmer, sheep farmer, wheat farmer. Where are the zombies at?

@marcipsy8152

2 жыл бұрын

Is it so surprising that games revolving around building an economy are thematically based on.. well, economies? Not all eurogames are like this, though. Take Spirit Island, which is highly thematic and has Spirits working with magic. But it's a eurogame gameplay-wise (no dice, only strategy and card/resource management).

@cryochamberlabel

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcipsy8152 I'm half joking. But I think it also has to do with medium-heavy board games being more family oriented in Germany than in the US. You could make games about building up an economy in a war torn space empire after all. Yes Spirit Island is great, I'm glad that euro mechanics has become expanded upon in other themes. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy being a sheep farmer too, but I prefer building space empires. :)

@AegixDrakan

2 жыл бұрын

I dunno if it's european or not, but look up "In The Name Of Odin". It's Viking themed and feels much more eurogame than ameritrash. :P It's also got a LOT of resource finagling and construction going on, but after like 3 turns it all flows super smoothly and I love it.

@cryochamberlabel

2 жыл бұрын

@@AegixDrakan Thanks for the recommendation, will put it on my list right next to Rosenburg's "Feast of Odin" which I've been itching to pick up.

@cadekachelmeier7251

2 жыл бұрын

The zombies are probably farming.

I spent thirty minutes trying to explain this difference to someone and now I can just show them this video. Thanks ProZD!

@MidniteBliss

2 жыл бұрын

After thirty actual, real-time minutes have passed, you may watch one video to learn something educational.

@kennethzeranski2833

2 жыл бұрын

@@MidniteBliss There will be no dice required for this phase.

@yeastofthoughtsmind9623

2 жыл бұрын

@@MidniteBliss still probably won't work. As someone who never plays table top games, both seem equally complicated and exhausting, just in slightly different ways.

@amnongravenmur9024

2 жыл бұрын

@@yeastofthoughtsmind9623 I think you get the idea of board games now…

I want to play both those games more than Lost in Random

@jamesbrice3267

Жыл бұрын

You're missing out, imagine Tim Burton making a video game.

The fact that he used Vs for Ws, means that the person who made the game was either German or Russian (I can't remember), moved to Scotland, made the game, made it so it barely ever needs any dice, and made it super long just to spite everyone. Love it.

@Valtharr

Жыл бұрын

...where do you get the "moved to England" part from?

@wired_badger

Жыл бұрын

@Valtharr Good question, and I had to pull an answer out of my ass for this. You see, the character is speaking English. The only main language on the continent Europe that speaks English is on the British Isles to my knowledge. However, multiple countries speak english there. My mistake came from the location of Jamestown. I thought that Jamestown was in England, which was wrong. Instead, it's in Scotland, being close to Glasgow. In short, always do your research before commenting, because you will look like a dumbass. The original comment has now been edited to undo this error.