Wow thanks for all the comments! Just to be clear, while the current reissue Jensen speakers are based on the design and sound of the original U.S. Jensen models, they are currently made by those lovely people in Italy. So when I say 'American' or 'British' speaker, I'm talking about the tone and design of the speaker, not necessarily the location they're currently manufactured in. Thanks!

@Tryggvasson

3 жыл бұрын

the original speakers on the 60s fender amps were jensen, so, regardless of where they are made, they are actually the original "american" speakers. and today's jensen has the actual models still in production.

@gerardoromano3436

Жыл бұрын

Hi the Fender Deluxe Reissue comes factory fitted with a Jensen C12K not the Jensen C12N, as far as I know (I had a lot of FDRRI from early 1990´s to 2015 all came with the Jensen C12K or the "Fender original design" that is hit or miss. The Jensen C12K is a 100W speaker with a heavy magnet, a harsh sound that puts a blanket over the highs so not as good as the Jensen C12N featured in this video witch is a 50W speaker, a bit less efficency (97dB vs almost 100dB from the C12K) . The Jensesn C12N as you said Made In Italy modeled with the original Jensens is the best ceramic speaker you can install in a Fender Deluxe Reverb RI if you want the original 60 and 70 sound but with a smoother trebble (enough to eliminate Ice pick sounds and to make the amp overdrive friendly but retainig the original "surfy" sound of that great amp). I make this remark so people that´s thinking of getting a Deluxe Reverb Reissue knows what to expect. That´s why in this video the difference between the C12N and the Creamback (American vs British) is not so dramatic. In this really well made comparison, the Jensen C12N sounds much better IMHO than the Creamback Clean and Overdriven / Distorted. The Creamback has a huge spike in the high mids (Like the Celestion Vintage 30) that makes overdriven sound "spiky and harsh", The Wharehouse ET65 is a version of the Creamback that eliminates that spike. If you want this amp to sound best with overdriven or distorted sound a good British option is the G12H (Heritage series) It´s a greenback, massive magnet, 30w (Real 30W) full range (not as mid forward as the Greenbacks found in Vox or Marshall) It cost almost as much as the Creamback, It´s a very efficent speaker (100Db) so pleny of volume with 22watt if you need It. Hope This Helps

I wanted to like the Celestion better on the drive/rock samples but I actually prefer the Jensen!

@tiki_trash

Жыл бұрын

I had just the opposite experience. I assumed that I would prefer the Jensen, but I liked the Creamback better in every style.

@ubdejones1

Жыл бұрын

creamback sucks. he should have used the greenback

@thorinbane

10 ай бұрын

@@ubdejones1 They are pretty close, so you must think greenies suck too. The cream is a higher wattage green.

@RocknJazzer

5 ай бұрын

most american spks (especially these new italy C12N) are far too harsh fizzy buzzy bees in jar for rawer overdrive and metal tones, only tolerable w smoother overdrive amps, or smoother pedals such as TS9 etc. Even for fender clean the new C12N is harsh and thin compared to vintage ones. I had one when they first came out...ouch. But vintage amercan spks also sound too bright thin harsh on overdrive type amps like old marshalls. Try them in real life like I did, you cant really judge from YT videos and other peoples gear and playing styles.

The Jensen was a natural sound. The Celestion sounded "musical" like it had a character all it's own.

Clearly the answer is a 4x12 with one Jensen, one cream back, one green back and an alnico blue with 4 mics.. .

@Dildobagginses

2 ай бұрын

Negative ghost rider I'm gonna need 4 4x12s at home

Both sounds killer (probably courtesy of the player), Jensen is to me more "I have pretty much all the sonic space in mix as I want" and Celestion is "no matter what, you will hear me"

@georgefromgreece4119

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@stanislavmigra

2 жыл бұрын

@@swagedelic in this demo, it was the Jensen that sounded to me more compressed. But I dont have real experience with it live. Greenback muddy in live mix? Never noticed that.

Cool! I prefer the Jensen in every style, although the last "rock distortion" with the Les Paul at least gave this Celestion a chance. That particular Jensen model just sings with this amp. Thanks!

@allanflippin2453

7 ай бұрын

Yes, I wanted to like The Celestion but it didn't work for me. Perhaps the Jazz/Clean sample was tied but that's not my style so I disregarded it.

Kudos! One of THE BEST speaker comparisons on the Tube! Truly showed the tonal characters of each speaker with all guitar types. Brilliant work!

The sound difference between the two speakers is MASSIVE! Great demo! I have a preference for the Jensen!

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I liked the Jensen much more for almost any application. Have to get rid of my Creamback 😉

Both sounded great! I’d be happy with either. Considering that an amp can sound different just by moving it around a room, I’m sure most players could coax a usable tone out of either of these.

I absolutely LOVE how tamed and clear the jazz sound is through the creamback!!! I ordered a g10 greenback for my vox vt30 just yesterday, can’t wait to noddle around with an improved clean tone! Thank you for this comparison

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear! Hope you enjoy the G10 Greenback

The best comparison I have seen here. Thank you so much.

Amazing demo and great playing as well. Thank you.

Excellent video. Wide variety of genres, great playing too!!

What suprised me in this clip is that the archtop sounds better to me with the celestion. It seems to me the Jensen is voiced too similar to the archtop - big low end and bright top but misses the mids and the celestion brings the mids out so nicely. Also makes me wonder how these compare in the mix.

@KingKook

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. And I thought the Brit did better with the funky stuff, too. But for blues or rock my impulse is towards the Jensen. Now for country twang on a Tele I'd go either way, even tho they're very different sounds. I like both, in different ways.

@georgefromgreece4119

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

Really clear difference between the two in your video. That is helpful. Thanks!

incredible demo and beautiful guitar playing friend. best regards!

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks!

I got three quarters of the way through this video and then I subscribed! Fantastic demo! Thank you!

Excellent review :) I wanted to pick a winner but....they both sound terrific...maybe a 2x12 cab with 1 of each would be the greatest sound ever !!!

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Good call!

This really helped me make decision on my next amp, thanks!

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

That's brilliant! Enjoy that new amp.

Wow that transition during the rock overdrive segment really summed up the us/uk difference perfectly. Great playing too, solid vid mate👍

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks! It's how I like to hear comparisons done anyway, glad you found it useful!

Absolutely lovely playing dude. Both sound very good when talent flows through them. 👏

Awesome video, man. Thanks for doing this! Such a unique sound to each of the speakers, and they both seemed to coax out a different vibe in the playing. Can't say that I preferred one to the other, just different Well done.

Best demo on these! Thanks!!

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

awesome playing! subbed

Well done! Great comparison and playing! Listening on my Air Pods and with that amp, I preferred the Jensen. Going to have to listen on my studio monitors tomorrow and see if that’s still the case. I’ve actually been considering both of these speakers, so this is perfect!

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Glad it was helpful!

Great vídeo my man

Awesome video!

Best and intelligent speaker demo !! Thanks !!

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks!

Really great video! Your recording technique clearly captured the difference. I thought the Creamback sounded best with the higher gain but for cleans, definitely the C12N

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for commenting! Great to hear your thoughts on the speakers.

Good comparison. They are both good speakers, just different. Excellent playing!

great video and great playing man! Great variety of styles in there for sure! It is an incredibly interesting take that you got on this, because for me when i hear US vs UK sound its Fender vs Marshall in my head =)

Came here to decide which speakers I want but shiieet, now I need both speakers and another amp.

This video is amazing, thanks for putting it together! The Jensen definitely excels at clean tones, but gets kind of harsh with overdriven tones. The Celestion does everything well to my ears.

Interesting how the type of music being played really does suit different styles. Thanks for this.

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it!

Both are nice but I like the Jensen best.

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. It looks like the Jensen is most people’s favourite so far!

Great video bro. Great comparison and some beautiful playing as well. I just ordered a C12N to replace the stock speaker in my Champion 40 😁

Great job, amazing playing. Wow.

That was really good playing!

This is a nice demo!

I liked them both. It would depend on which side of the bed I got up on as to which I liked best. Jensen is brighter and Celestion is a little darker and mellower. Would love to hear them matched in a 2 x 12 cabinet.

thank you. appreciate the samples. sound great

Great demo man ! Sounds and looks awesome !

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks! Did you have a favourite?

@karlsocasau

3 жыл бұрын

Michael Banfield the creamback 💪🏻🔥

Wow. Great Demo. Concise. I LOVE the Creamback. Probably the best single speaker there is. V30's mix well with Greenbacks and T75's, but alone, the Creamback 65 dominates IMO.

great video, very useful. thank you.

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I liked both. If I had to pick just one.............Jensen

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks TJ, yeah the Jensen has a lovely sound. How about that rock distortion sound at the end though? I think I prefer the Celestion for that.

@tjjr1062

4 жыл бұрын

I have to agree with you on that.

@backspin6698

3 жыл бұрын

Same here.

Great video, helped me understand the difference. Prefered the Creamback.

Excellent demo. Clean and the funky the Jensen wins, but with a little durt, the Celestion is my favorite

This was the best accurate video 👌 different styles. But got me to the conclusion of a 2 12 with both would probably be around best worlds! Thanks bud 👍

This is a great comparison, thanks. I have an old Pro Reverb 2x12 with neo creambacks in it at the moment. Might give some Jensens a go as nature intended one day

Wow that Jensen does it for me, great demo and playing, cheers !

Great comparison video thanks for sharing! It’s really all subjective to each listener. However, I prefer the Jensen as it sounds more transparent and open allowing for the tones to ring through.

excelent video!

I have a Deluxe Reverb, Like the American speaker for it. Want it sound the way it intended. I have AC30 and a Plexi for the British voice stuff.

Thanks for the effort of making this comparison! Good, quality video. But it would be good to compare this speakers in the mix, or during a gig ;)

Jensen for sure for this demo. Great pedal platform as well. Having said that I do love my Marshall 4 x 12 with Greenbacks using a Friedman PT22 to rock out.

Interesting! Often with shoot-out videos I find I naturally prefer the first option in every case and whilst I thought the Jensen sounded nice, on every occasion I preferred the Creamback

Great job👍

Epic playing!

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Very kind, thank you!

This is a great video! I have a Marshall club and country and wanting to change out the speakers. Since the club and country is trying to replicate the twin reverb more or less, this is a really difficult choice! Both sound great.

Nice video. And nice playing...Thanks

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Hope it was helpful. Did you have a favourite out of the two speakers?

@dindin3394

4 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar Yes I have, I liked the Jensen a lot, to be exact I ordered the c12q which is a little bit different than the c12n. I think it has less low end and it's a little bit brighter. But in this video I prefered the c12n. I guess this is subjective and it also depends on the amp we use...

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think of the C12q as a slightly lower powered version of the C12n, probably a bit more open and airy sounding I would expect. They use that speaker in the Fender handwired 64' Deluxe Reverb. Hope it works for you, and yes I agree, it is all subjective!

I liked Jensen for clean tones, Celestion for anything with overdrive / distortion. Great video!

I really like Jensens. I use mostly C12k’s and C10q’s. I was surprised that the Celestion caught my ear when you were playing jazz. I think I preferred the cream back for jazz. Thanks for the demo!

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

I know, you're right. I wasn't expecting the cream back to sound that good with a jazz tone either. Thanks for the comment!

An excellent job at accurately (in my opinion and experience anyway) presents the speakers in a realistic and helpful way!

Great comparison, I wanted to prefer the Celestion but I prefer the Jensen in every scenario. I am pretty sure it would work better in a band situation as well.

Nice comparison. Good job playing different styles.

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, thanks!

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Did you have a favourite?

I liked each depending on what was being played. I’ve been wanting a 212 cab for a Friedman head and I’ve been comparing speakers SO…..I’ll get one of each of these put in my cab and that’ll be the fix. Thanks for the demo!!

...nice job fella. Nice sound quality and it shows you know how to mic.

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I did my best, it’s really difficult to get a true sound of a speaker from a recording, I hope this helped you!

Such a stark difference! We spend so much time comparing amps and overdrives and the whole EQ could be changed by the speaker.

Lover Man! Nice rendition!

Thanks for a great video!! With that amp I preferred the Jensen by a long margin. My experience echoes yours too. I was thinking about my own amps... JTM45 through the Celestion Greenbacks? Glorious! Princeton tweed through the American voiced speaker? Great. The latter reminds me of Eric Clapton's Strat tone in the Riding with the King album. Fabulous tone! I was trying today the Princeton with my favourite cabinet, an open back 2x12 cab with Heritage speakers G 12 M and G 12 H and whilst it sounded okay but it wasn't anything to write home about. I plugged the tiny 8 inch American voiced speaker back (Jupiter 8SC), and the tone returned. I guess the JTM45 wouldn't sound its best through American voiced speakers but haven't really tried.

nice comparsion

Nice job Michael!! I play Jazz, Swing, Country, Blues (Chicago, before they put the distortion in) and several other genres, and am trying to figure out what speakers to use. It's almost impossible to find comparisons that are not totally distorted or jangly for cleans! Your video helped a lot, as you actually PLAYED some Jazz and clean stuff, where almost all other folks test equipment with big distortion or with 63 digital pedals thru their tube amps!! THANKYOU!!! And nice Zephyr Regent BTW! I had '51 Zephyr Deluxe Regent & Triumph Regents, among several other NY & Kalamazoo Epi's

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

6 ай бұрын

Glad it helped! I need to get around to getting a new pick guard made for my Epi, but yes I like the old Epiphone arch tops too, very jealous of your collection!

Both great. I actually thought the creamback was holding its own in the jazz example! Great video

Great demo, the differences and similarities are very clearly evident. What ultimately is the dilemma, then, is how does any one particular tone work in the mix of the band? Very often, less range, or less bottom, or less mids work best to not crowd the others, especially vocals. So I suppose the choice comes down to one's willingness to maximally exploit whatever tone it is you've got, to make it work best in whatever situation it's placed. Adapt, improvise, overcome! 😎

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

2 жыл бұрын

Very good point! Thanks for commenting.

these are great I could get layed with either of these.

Great review! I just ordered a pair of the Jensen's for my 62 blonde Bassman restoration. I was going to have the original Oxford's re-coned, but opted for what I think will be a sure thing with the Jensen's. I'll retain the originals in the event I sell the amp.

Great video, thanks for your work. I prefer the Jensen, that’s the vintage Fender sound.

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Good choice, thanks for watching!

Thanks for the comparison. Would you mind sharing your tuning in that end segment? ...Loved it!

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks! I think the tuning is drop D for that one

Awesome, thank you

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

quality video. Just ordered some Celestion v10 Vintage. I have a 2x10 cab (with Jensen C10Qs) and a 71 Bassman head and I'm going to try and do a similar shootout when they come in.

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

Жыл бұрын

Sounds cool. And yes, there's no substitute for hearing the gear through your own rig with your own playing so that you can make an honest comparison and decision, good move. Thanks for commenting

Excellent video, thanks! What was originally in the amp? A C12K? If so, was there much difference between that and the C12N?

History of Jensen® Loudspeakers Peter Jensen Peter L. Jensen dedicated his life to innovation and today's Jensen® musical instrument speakers continue the essence of that innovation. Peter L. Jensen was born in 1886 in Falster, Denmark and came to America in 1909. In 1915, working alongside Edwin Pridham, Peter Jensen developed the "Magnavox", the first loudspeaker. Magnavox speakers were predominantly used for public address systems, famously first used publicly in 1919 to amplify President Woodrow Wilson's speech in San Diego. In 1927, Peter Jensen founded Jensen® Radio Manufacturing Company and began producing speakers for both military use and radios. The company later began to produce commercial loudspeakers for public use. In the mid-1940s Leo Fender developed one of the first guitar amplifiers and chose Jensen® speakers for their excellent tone. Throughout the 1940s, 1950s and most of the 1960s, Fender®, Ampeg®, Gibson® and all the other major amplifier companies used Jensen® musical instrument speakers. Jensen® ceased production of their loudspeakers in the late 1960s. In the late 1990s, under a licensing agreement, SICA Altoparlanti, an Italian speaker manufacturer, commenced production of the legendary Jensen® speakers. These Jensen® "reissues", after intensive research and analysis, are made to the same specifications as the original Jensen® speakers used by Leo Fender and others. Following the success of these reissues, Jensen® has released new speakers utilizing the same quality design as the original Jensen® speakers, but dedicated to modern music, including speakers in the Jensen® Jet Series. The Jensen® name is synonymous with classic vintage tone, and is the pioneer in modern state-of-the-art speakers today. I am just posting for those that might be interested to know the history of Mr. Jensen, the creator of the first loud speaker.

The rock distortion through that celestion was gorgeous

Great playing through either speaker.

Thanks for a very useful video. The Jensen sounds livelier for clean tones, but the highs when distorted become unpleasantly piercing. The Celestion tames the upper harshness much better. I am experimenting with a two amp setup with one of each type of speaker. (Vox Ac 30 w/gb speakers is mostly one half.)

it's amazing how much the speaker impacts the tone, more than actually changing the amp. to me, the jensens sound flatter and more neutral overall, with smoother highs - i love that about them. i prefer the celestions for a clean tone with a little bite, exactly for that midrange, although - or maybe because - they sound a lot more scooped. i don't like it that the scoop isolates the lows and that makes them feel a bit out of control, even though there's less of them, and also that they're a bit harsh, but overall i think the mids make up for that. a combination between them would make for the best speaker. or a 2x12 with one of each. i think the celestions would work better on a 2x12, anyway, where the mid-lows would be filled back in a little more, whereas these jensens were designed to balance a 1x12 just right. a humbucker would also have kind of the same effect on the celestions, plus subduing the treble a little. a subtle hint of chorus would focus the mids a little more on the jensens. for jazz. blues, and rock distortion i prefer the jensens, and the celestion for the rest. but i don't think it depends on the generic genre, as much as on the specific tone you're going for. great comparison, and nice playing!

Celestion Creamback its my favourite xD i have one and i love how it color the sound of everything , but the Italian is a legend and a very sweet speaker too ;) , Happy new year for all you people ! xD

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Good choice. Thanks for sharing!

The rock stuff with the Lespaul and celestion was well defined and chunky love it.

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! Yeah I agree, the Les Paul and Celestions are a great combination.

great video - quite a big difference between them, but I'm not quite sure which one I would choose

Great video. The Jensen spanks the Celestion on clean sounds but the Celestion kicks ass as soon as overdrive is introduced.

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah the Celestion fits so well for those high gain sounds. Thanks for Commenting!

The clean and funk and blues drive through the Jensen sounded sweetest The Celestion for overdriven stuff As everyone would expect

Preferred the Jensen right up until Rock Distortion when the Celestion killed it with that tone. Thank you for showcasing the speakers under different styles.

Fantastic playing, both sound good. I have a carvin vintage 16, and I am trying to find a speaker to brighten up the El84s.

Great Video! I have tried to explain this before; now I'll just provide this link! (and subscribe)

The Celestion cream all day! I was suprised, since I built a 12 in speaker box with a Jensen MOD in it, and the MOD sounds good with a hint of vintage to it.

I love the Jensen for the cleans and the celestion for the dirt.

Dude, high quality video! All around, literally every aspect! Including your riffage, brother!

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the nice comment Brandon that's really kind of you! Did you have a favourite of the two speakers?

@bneum

3 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar Not a problem, man! And i would probably say overall I slightly prefer the jensen to the celestion? it's so hard, I've been swapping back and forth in my own amp between a WGS G12C/S and WGS ET-65, and I like one and then I like the other, and then I play the british and it sounds amazing, and then I find a weird little thing it does that I don't like. I wish there was a combination of both sounds together in one speaker. I found the Celestion A Type and that sounds like it's up my alley, but its 50w and my amp is 65w solid state. I guess overall though, the american sound is what I prefer, although there are elements about the british tone that can't be beat.

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Brandon Neumann I think I get where you’re coming from. I’ve heard very good things about those WGS speakers. How about putting one in a separate cab? Radial do a pedal that can switch between cabs too if you wanted to go all out!

@bneum

3 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelBanfieldGuitar Not a bad idea! never really considered that I guess haha

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Brandon Neumann it might be worth looking into. I think that’s what I’m going to do with my celestion. Hope that you find the tone you’re after anyway.

Thank-you, what a brilliant video to get a ballpark idea of the sound differences between the classic Brit and classic American speaker sound. I liked the different styles of playing you used with and without effects to highlight the difference. In my opinion they are both lovely sounding speakers. If I had to pick one I'd go for the Celestion for the simple reason I use a lot of gain/distortion at times. The Celestion holds up better note definition and clarity when it's being driven harder. And clarity is important to my style of playing. Having said that I do love the warmth and natural character of the Jensen when listening to someone else play through it. But for me the Celestion suits my sound best. Thanks again for clarifying what I couldn't quite ever define in words if someone ever asked the difference between the two or why I chose to use Celestions over other speaker's. I will now redirect them to you.

@MichaelBanfieldGuitar

Жыл бұрын

Glad you found it useful. Yes I agree, the Jensen sounds great but the more gain I seem to use with it the more gritty and 'trashy' it sounds when compared to the smoother, punchier sound of the Celestion. Thanks for commenting!

Your performance is amazing, love the Jazz part. And the funk part was awesome too. What pickups ar in the sunburst Strat ?? It sounds awesome for a neck pickup (with a great compressor, the best in the market IMHO)