in the United States going to see a sports match is like going to the cinema, it is simply one entertainment among others, in Europe it is an ancestral religion 😅

@foreignreacts

Жыл бұрын

🤯

@BuckledFrame2187

Жыл бұрын

100 percent fax. In America if a team if going bankrupt. Not much will happen but here in England. There have been riots in the streets and riots at the owners home (southend united right now #MartinOut

@WVUFan129

Жыл бұрын

The passion is in college sports

@frokslp2268

Жыл бұрын

​@@BuckledFrame2187 english fans are trash.

@qtipmotha

Жыл бұрын

This isn't true of American football. Especially college football

As a Frankfurt fan, everyone knows what's going on. We stand together and we go down together

@si_erra

Жыл бұрын

Nur die SGE 🖤🤍

@Fvckoffjosh

Жыл бұрын

Ja aber das Video war schwach. Es gibt so brutale Videos der Frankfurter Kurve

@aryyez_2771

Жыл бұрын

Deutsche Fans sind einfach brutal, da ist es schwierig Videos auszusuchen. Man hätte genauso gut noch Sachen von Hansa, Schalke, HSV, Dresden usw. nehmen können

@Schmusbek21898

Жыл бұрын

@@aryyez_2771 Ja Dresden ist generell am arsch

@Sascha1887

Жыл бұрын

Das sah bei euch in der 2. Liga damals etwas anders aus🤨 Ihr vergesst schnell. Langsam habt ihr das dümmste Selbstverständnis für den Club. Anderen die Ambitionen aber absprechen🤣🤣🤣 Eintracht halt....Ihr werdet ja Meister 🤣

I think the difference is that sports in the US is just show, an event. In Europe, your club is your life. You take vacation just to drive across the country to support your club. No matter if you're team is successful or has a losing streak. It's a lifestyle, it's your life. My team plays in the 3rd German division, we have an average of over 12.000 people in our stadium. Enjoyed your reaction. All the best 💪🏻😊

@quila1521

Жыл бұрын

Finde den 1860 Fan 😊

@The19Flo93

Жыл бұрын

@@quila1521 Ich sehe keinen 😅🙈

@christianh736

Жыл бұрын

Nur der msv

@briton3851

Жыл бұрын

yea same in the uk, my local is a league one team we average about 25,000 ppl a match, 30,000 on big games

@arturgallisa3559

Жыл бұрын

South America >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Europe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>USA

The difference is that in Europe you come to support your team no matter what their situation is. As a high school student here in America, when we were losing 1-2 a football (soccer) game and there were 2 minutes left, everyone started to leave. In Europe if your team is losing 10-0 and there are 5 seconds left, you stay there until the last whistle.

@therealbomb_com8774

Жыл бұрын

That isn't true at all, especially for the big leagues.

@gurururuwarararara8164

Жыл бұрын

10-0 is stretching it, but 4-1 or 4-2? I'd never leave, talk about missing the opportunity of watching a glorious comeback They are rare, but they do occur. Football is magic ❤

@j4niik821

Жыл бұрын

​@@therealbomb_com8774not really stretching it, depending on the club, if you are fan of a club that isn't always winning it is true, if you are for example looking at Bayern Munich games (I'm from Germany so Bayern es example) you see people leaving if they are 1 goal behind

@danielsabino211

Жыл бұрын

Nah, people leaves here in Europe also even while tied

@robertorios9285

11 ай бұрын

That is a bunch of BS. My team is losing 3-0 with 10 min to go in the league or champions league, we get the he'll out of the stadium. What nonsense are you talking about.

5:47 The stadium is constructed to bounce and flex to not break.

@foreignreacts

Жыл бұрын

Okay that’s smart

@spyro257

Жыл бұрын

@@foreignreacts take European fans, put them in an American stadium, and that stadium will collapse, before half-time!

@samuelpinder1215

Жыл бұрын

@@spyro257 2026 world cup

@juliencookie8651

Жыл бұрын

@@spyro257 zur wm wird das sicher lustig

@024Nimma

Жыл бұрын

@@spyro257 Facts.

The 12th man who can completely change the outcome of a match. Not to be understimated

@ojarsvitols1641

Жыл бұрын

Well said.

@jacobdautriche9023

11 ай бұрын

true

Europe :" here is your birth certificate & here the chant for your team😂❤"

@foreignreacts

Жыл бұрын

😂

Europe is all about passion

@foreignreacts

Жыл бұрын

Surely hits differently 🔥

@dawid065

Жыл бұрын

Not all

@christophermichaelclarence6003

Жыл бұрын

A bit too much of a passion. Sometimes this could go far

@dawid065

Жыл бұрын

@@christophermichaelclarence6003 decently not

@rulleandersson6739

Жыл бұрын

@@christophermichaelclarence6003 erm no.. its a religion and a life style, if you dont understand it you never gonna understand :)

Here in South America is the same as Europa, same passion and loud chants... it's wild

@kristinishku2225

Жыл бұрын

south amerika support is way mor passioned than europe

@teqyy._5758

11 ай бұрын

as an european ultra: in south america is 5x crazier

@laziojohnny79

7 ай бұрын

Depending on which part of Europe, north and west are very mild, hence their Calvinistic background. South and south west is a bit more passionate, but only the south east and east can compare theirselves to the utter loonatic firms in South America. So once again this shows there is no such thing as 'a (united) Europe' or Europeans acting or feeling as one, we're not the US, gracias Dios.

@Giovi0408

6 ай бұрын

There is even more passion in south America

@strangetimes33

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I really would like to go to a match between River and Boca, that's atmosphere

Sport is all about passion in Europe. Watch USA v Europe basketball supporters for confirmation. The passion/singing goes on throughout the entire match not just before or at half time.

@franciscocanellas4267

Жыл бұрын

Bro if u think europe is passion u should see fans in argentina or brazil, that is just different

@user-jv7se6ft9t

Жыл бұрын

​@@franciscocanellas4267 bruh. Just visit any football match in Turkey. Especially Stamboul derby.

@lukusakazadi-christian8526

Жыл бұрын

@@user-jv7se6ft9t All of europe should go and visit Marocco They are something else, well, grece is definetly special about Pyro shows

@tanjasittel9437

7 ай бұрын

passion is the same, just expressed a little different

In Europe ppl start being fans of certain clubs from as young as they have understanding so they passion is engraved in them

In Europe your Football Club is your religion and the Stadium is the cathedral 💪

@metacarpiano6749

Жыл бұрын

You haven't seen the hooligans of South America...

everyone watches this video but its not good in terms of European atmosphere. There are much better videos

@vth55_

Жыл бұрын

much better

Football is a religion in Europe, it's a lifetime devotion passed on to generations. If your grandpa is a Real Madrid fan 95% of the family is also Real Madrid fans

1 thing to note too is the stadiums in Europe are designed to move like that to act like a cars suspension as the architects and builders know just how much force that many people all jumping at once creates. Its literally swaying with passion!

Remember most of these fans are supporting their club over 90minutes with this power

@foreignreacts

Жыл бұрын

That’s intense

btw at 6:27 theye are singing "Harry Maguire your defence is terrifying" over and over again xD

@dragosmoise7927

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@TranceLife4

Жыл бұрын

And its true 😆

considering football in Europe is a bigger business than in US both money and passion is on European side : P

@foreignreacts

Жыл бұрын

Facts

4:49 It was at this moment, he felt the true energy of a football match

@Effzeh-lo6fv

Жыл бұрын

Yeah 😍❤️🤍u saw right thats the best club world wide❤️🤍

@nachovazquez5969

Жыл бұрын

What song are they singing?

@Effzeh-lo6fv

Жыл бұрын

@@nachovazquez5969 do u need a translation i can give u its the best song

@TheBE730

Жыл бұрын

It is beautiful

@Effzeh-lo6fv

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBE730 yeah

I’m from Barcelona. Over there it’s more than a football club. It’s difficult to explain the love you have for your team. It’s like an extension of yourself or a family member. It’s a strong part of your identity

@jandeklerk871

11 ай бұрын

Mas que un club

@senthayfn

9 ай бұрын

Yes, but in the stadium there is no atmosphere, you have a lot of "citizens"

That part with the Romanian anthem @ 10:18 was FIRE !!!!

@user-nv4lc6yy7o

Жыл бұрын

Im Greek but I get GOOSEBUMPS. Desteapta-te romane, din somnul cel de moarte In care te adancira barbarii de tirani BARBARII DE TIRANI

Before watching this video. I hope they show you the march of Eintracht Frankfurt fans in Barcelona (approximately 20.000 people). The camp nou was conquered by Eintracht Frankfurt fans and that’s how they won against the almighty Barcelona! Fans can make the underdog win against the biggest opponents!

It is also political and historic. It is not only passion. Its life. Sometimes unfortunately hate. A lot of people where killed, because they where for a other club.

@mattiascaccabarozzi

Жыл бұрын

Look at the euros too: every possibile match had its historical precedent 💀

In Europe football is a religion. My club is Sporting Portugal, you wouldn't believe the kind of stuff we do to follow our club, we just gotta go there and support them

A wise man once Said “Some people Think that football is a matter of life and Death. I Can assure you. It is much more serious than that”

4:48 he felt it

The first European chant is BVB Dortmund. This chant is before the fans have got into the stadium. The stand that was shaking was designed to do that.

@X25_Networking

Жыл бұрын

@PLX OneTake Du bist auch Sankt Pauli, die singen doch sogar "BORUSSIA DORTMUND" !

@X25_Networking

Жыл бұрын

@PLX OneTake Sankt Pauli, die Perle von Europa! Hier geht es doch überhaupt nicht darum wer lauter ist, sondern um den Vergleich USA/Europa. Scheissegal welches Team

I live in Europe this is us! Passion + History of the club is important! The People, Community the City is the one who built the team from small to become bigger! For 100 + years! And we don't change the name of the club!

9:08 "FRAMÅT MALMÖ" "HEJA DI BLÅE" "FORWARD MALMÖ" "COME ON THE BLUES" Call and respond chant from the Most Champions of Sweden Malmö FF. That was away in the Uefa Euro League against Chelsea when 3500 Malmö fans were outsinging 36500 Chelsea fans away at Stamford Bridge. Our own home support is electrifying with megasize flags, big tifo displays and flares. We sing for 2 hours straight minus 15 minutes at half time break.

@The_half_danish-sr8ys

Жыл бұрын

Malmö ff 👍

@ddgaxelnilsson7855

Жыл бұрын

4-0

In Dortmund every Matchday 81.000 Fans supportung their Teams. 73.000 for the Home and 8.000 Away Team. And the most fanatics are the Ultras, who jumping and singing most loudly.

7:15 onwards, before big international games we (the french) sing the national anthem that calls up citizens to arm up for the french revolution, so it's not even a football only song it's also a war song

@leftykop

Жыл бұрын

At the end with Romania it was the national anthem and you could see that everyone was proud, even though there is bad shit about the country like corruption everyone is proud to be Romanian

I have to say though, South America probably has the best supporters in the world. Go check some San Lorenzo (Argentina) videos. Every game is a carnival.

@pauldeamer9581

Жыл бұрын

Same with Brasil

@mosovanhe

Жыл бұрын

As a Brazilian, I actually prefer the Europeans these days haha. Been living in The Netherlands for 3 years now, and I got to go to a bunch of matches in England, Spain and France as well. The passion over here is something else entirely, a whole new kind that I didn't even know existed haha. I guess you can't really compare them, even though in a way they're also very similar. But I love them both. Football fans in general are just the best.

4:47 ❤️🤍 "egal was auch passiert die rote Wand steht hinter dir weich nicht von deiner Seite den nur für dich ist sie hier OH FC KÖLLE EIN GANZES LEBEN DEN FÜR DEN VEREIN"❤️🤍

In the United States they are primarily spectators, in Europe, Africa and South America they are primarily supporters. The Americans go to see a show, in Europe they come to see their team win. In America they put the music on loud, cheerleaders, etc... In Europe the ultras put on a show in the stadium. Not the same culture. In Europe a club represents the city, a district, an identity or political ideology, not always racist, I specify. In the United States they are franchises, one day in Oakland, then in Los Angeles and finally in Las Vegas

Fun fact the stadiums have to be designed to support the weight of every single person in the stadium jumping up and down at the same time

That bloke with the mike and the "Seattle Sounders" fight and win routine would be torn to pieces inside fifteen seconds anywhere in Europe, and rightly so, that is just so cringeworthy, it's embarrassing..........

in split croatia whenever Hajduk plays a big game 40.000 people comes. Thats 1/4 of the city in the arena

@gurururuwarararara8164

Жыл бұрын

160K?

@korallrev3497

Жыл бұрын

@@gurururuwarararara8164 well maybe a bit more like 200-250k so lets say 1/5 then still alot

@rich7447

Жыл бұрын

Memorial Stadium (record attendance 91,585) in Lincoln Nebraska becomes the state's 3rd largest city on game day, behind Omaha and Lincoln. It works out to about 1/3 of the population of Lincoln.

@korallrev3497

Жыл бұрын

@@rich7447 has it been so since 1960? One of my relatives middle name is the club hehe

@rich7447

Жыл бұрын

@@korallrev3497 I get it....maybe. Just saying that for the most part we don't care about soccer in the US, so compare to a sport that is popular.

The true passion is seen in South America, friends

Stadium energy: any rugby team playing England at home during the sixth nations... The Scottish national anthem at Murrayfield always gives me chills (and I'm not a Scott)

one passion, one team, one city. whichever team you support, you will defend your city.

That “Sara perche ti amo” in San Siro gave me chills ❤

8:33 by a mile you mean by a universe😂

In german Football, you go into the Stadium for watching the game and to live and celebrate that atmosphere. The fans do all to push there team forward. In the case of my hometown Magdeburg (2. Bundesliga), the whole Stadium is chanting over 90 minutes. The athmosphere of the 1. FC Magdeburg Stadium is called to be a „Hexenkessel“. Perhaps you can translate it with „Witch Boiler“ or with „couldron“. 1. FC Magdeburg is called to be one of the loudest stadiums ever (with just 27000 viewers capacity). Watch some Stadium vlogs of FCM ;)

Kind of interesting that many of the clubs shown in the Europe part are also relatively small clubs. I think most European countries have clubs with extremely passionate fans, even in the lower levels of play.

Hey long time no see. It's been a while since the last time I was on your channel. How you doing ? That topic who shared with us is quite common. The European way is like going to War. That's really an agressive way. The American way is more cheerful and matrioc

@foreignreacts

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for coming back KZread has been slow here ever since the move to Europe I’m hoping to get it back to where it was I genuinely like the European way the American way is way less enthusiastic

we in germany call this "Gänsehaut" = Goosebumps

The off sync clap just shows why America could never compare😂😂😂😂😂😂 love your videos🙏🏻

Ich muss auch als schalke fan sagen, die Dortmunder in den Straßen wissen wie man Deutschland in Europa gut vertritt👍🏾

@X25_Networking

Жыл бұрын

Die "Düsenjet"-Arena unter Volldampf hat aber auch ne Menge Power!

@Effzeh-lo6fv

Жыл бұрын

Junge Respekt das man so über seinen Konkurrenten reden kann. Ich würd kein einziges gutes wort jemals an Gladbach,Leverkusen oder düsseldorf verlieren

As a stade de malherbe de Caen fan (league 2 in France) , it's a hard time, but I will keep watching, and their is a great atmosphere every weekend

Look at german/european Eishockey fans 💪🏼

@arnodobler1096

Жыл бұрын

and Hanball

@dawid065

Жыл бұрын

@@arnodobler1096 handball fans 😂 cute

@arnodobler1096

Жыл бұрын

@@dawid065 love it

@Effzeh-lo6fv

Жыл бұрын

Kölner 🦈❤️🤍

@nestorkurzo7019

Жыл бұрын

Look at Ambri Piotta fans 🤍💙

I believe that we will win???? You really nailed it there with money vs passion! Keep it up, man!

There’s a video comparing basketball crowds from the USA and Europe somewhere. You should check it out. It’s a definite eye opener.

Geh ins Stadion, die Energie spüren, ein Video bringt 10% ,,,man muss es erleben, die Gänsehaut,

@Effzeh-lo6fv

Жыл бұрын

Ich glaub kaum dat der deutsch versteht

Nothing better than 1. FC Köln and it’s fans. 😉 European fan clubs consist of different groups. Some of them create elaborate choreographies for the games.

@samuelpinder1215

Жыл бұрын

I'm English so my Bundesliga knowledge probably isnt as good as yours but eintracht Frankfurt better

@Anton_mff

Жыл бұрын

Allsvenskan > Bundesliga

@Effzeh-lo6fv

Жыл бұрын

@@samuelpinder1215 isn’t

@Effzeh-lo6fv

Жыл бұрын

U say right FC KÖLN IS THE GREATEST ❤️🤍

I have said this on other ppl that have reacted to this video, you can see the budding of a suporter culture, you need to keep in mind that some of the clubs in eruope are from the mid 1800's and rivalires that have been festering sence then both between cities and between different social structures in society some clubs are seen as rich people clubs while other are blue collar workers clubs and all this baked in with that often your love for your club is inherited from family members for generations

There's a baskeball fans us vs eu too. Love to see your reaction to that one.

even those clips were light, no fireworks at all

Have you ever seen like all English chants? From Liverpool to Brighton and all. That is some atmosphere!!

I was half hoping the city ground would have been featured singing before a game especially a video From the Trent bridge to see how loud it is

Just so you know, this PSG crowd is WAY quieter than the one before Qatar came in. I could hear the chants from my balcony, now they are less loudy, so I don't hear them anymore. And look the morrocan and turqish supporters, they top everyone. Except Boca Juniors maybe

I'm a Corinthians' supporter, in Europe one of the fewest club's supporters I admire are those from Borussia Dortmund. They seems to be insane just like us 😂

So proud to hear my country's anthem at 7:10

@LeviMatteo

3 ай бұрын

È meraviglioso l'Inno Rumeno. Insieme al mio inno italiano i più belli del mondo 🇮🇹❤️🇷🇴

From the moment sport clubs in America change cities if the board of directors so choses, just shows it's all a business to you guys. Meanwhile in Europe, clubs are tied to a particular city, and rivalries between cities have existed for centuries, so football club rivalries are just an extension of that, plus its the pride in your own hometown

@TravelwithPavel

11 ай бұрын

Exactly, I can't imagine AC Milan just decided to move to Napoli for example 🤣

Man, you have to react to southamerican football fans, we are in another level, I'm from Paraguay🇵🇾, always with my club Cerro Porteño🔴🔵

To put into context, supposedly the loudest stadium recorded a 142.2 decibels; that was a NFL game at kansas City chiefs, arrowhead stadium with a capacity of 76,416. On the other hand the loudest Europe football game was at 131 decibels at turk telecom arena. Their capacity is at 52,652. That's a difference of 23,764 less people for only 11.2 decibels. The difference is crazy tbf 😂

@jonasgraumans2034

Жыл бұрын

Hate to be the one to say it, but decibels are logarithmic, so ten more means times a factor of ten, so the chiefs stadium was 11.2 times louder.

@HansPeter-io9if

Жыл бұрын

@@jonasgraumans2034 Percieved loudness doubles every 10 dezibels. It's factor 2 not 10. But it's still not "only 11 dezibels". I agree on that

@coreyhaycock4429

Жыл бұрын

@@HansPeter-io9if if it's a factor of 2, would that not mean the equal amount of fans would put the turk telecom arena at 142.5?

@qtipmotha

Жыл бұрын

Alot of that has to do with how the stadium is constructed.

@rayzhang7591

Жыл бұрын

You do realize that decibel is calculated based on logarithm right? Only 11.2 decibels lol. The difference between a normal conversation and a vacuum cleaner is about 10 decibels.

As Roma has the best fans in the world. The coreo and music Is top notch

The original video mixed it up a little bit. For sure there was the French national team playing (and therefore their national anthem) as well as the Romanian team at the end, so you could compere it to the USNS playing and the crowd chanting the Stars and Stripes. I imagine at 10:18 at was the Romanian team playing, but not sure of that. It's a total different vibe when your club team is playing compared to your national team in Europe, even if for many supporters they will be as fanatic for their club as for their national team. Big difference: you'll almost never will see national flags in Europe when your club team is playing, only during games betweens national teams. Rather strange, as a European, to see all those national flags in the NBA, NFL, ... games. In Europe, when your club team is playing, those are the colours you're supporting...

this is how stadiums are built in europa. greetings from the ♥ of the alps.

I swear to god , in Europe , you choose a club and go with this club your all life , I’m a Madrid fan since I’m 6 (2005) and I’m proud of it until I’m gonna die , even if now there is a lot of people only following player instead of teams

In Europe there are groups in the stadium which live since many years. They are organised, they organise fights, chants and many other things. You cannot do as you wish in the stand behind the goal or you will get beaten up

That Seattle's guy here in Brazil is called of "Boça"

Argentina has the best crowd of the world 😎👌

If you want to see a crazy atmosphere look to south Europe red star Belgrad / Partisan Belgrad / Dynamo Zagreb / hajduk Split / panathenaikos Athen …. That’s crazy 😜

Im from Cologne, Germany. 5:08 i am always there. We call lt Südkurve 🎉❤

The difference between franchises and Clubs!

It doesnt matter witch divsion my Team plays...Greetings from Tsv 1860 Munich. You will go down as a team💙🤍

what's the song name by 6:20?

It must be said that at least they put clips from the USA, of fans in football matches, which, although they seem simple and even boring, are, by far, more passionate than those of basketball, baseball or american football.

You should watch more of this...Dortmund is in the Stadium much louder

Those european games are meh, check ultras our way of life... or other derby games these are meh for european standard

there is a cool effect, called "wave"👌🏻 hello from Kiev✌🏻

For a next video, Us commentary vs European commentary (Sorry for my english). An advice, the commentaries for the end of the match Belgium - Japan (World Cup 2018) are beautiful.

In Munich, where the NFL game took place, it is like in the USA, money rules and not passion! Munich is in Bavaria, the country is relatively large but sparsely populated. I live in North Rhine-Westphalia, here are FC Cologne/Schalke/Dortmund and many other clubs that really have less to do with money than with passion, we have 16 million people here in this state and it is the most populated area in Europe .

8:39 they rally like Pippi Longstockings, that was 2nd time we herd them use that melody. ;)

The main difference is more about who are going to the stadium, I am from Europe and I live in USA from only 4 years but here in US, family are going together to the stadium, in Europe they are very mainly band of male going, no kid or family and that make the things very wild, I mean from my personal experience

US: Clap, clap, polite applause. Europe: FULL SEND, GO TO WAR

Frankfurt pulls out the melody from Pippi Longstocking👏👏🇸🇪

Great Video bro. U should react to some european choreography

Here football is like a religion. People live for their team!!

@aleisterlavey9716

Жыл бұрын

Isn't there even a cemetery dedicated to a team in Germany? I think yellow black was the colours.

@smallblueangel

Жыл бұрын

@@aleisterlavey9716 i don’t know

@aleisterlavey9716

Жыл бұрын

@@smallblueangel found it. HSV in Hamburg.

@smallblueangel

Жыл бұрын

@@aleisterlavey9716 so in my city. Since im not into football that much 🙈🙈😂

money and money also in Europe the teams pay players many millions and it is all in the hands of the TV stations. Romantic and genuine football ended in the 1990s

The song they sang from time 7:13 is the French national anthem and from time 10:17 they sang the Romanian national anthem. 🤪

@jeremiostring9117

Жыл бұрын

wasn’t really hard to guess😂

Went to a New England Revs game last month. Was shocked ! Quiet like a library ! Not even booing refs for giving yellow card to home players. Not even a boo when home players get fouled ! Very weird !

In Europe we are an important part of our favorite clubs not just random people going to games watching a show.

The Fans in a football game are like the 12th man on the pitch, watch Liverpool vs Barcelona, Liverpool 3-0 down came back to win 4-0, its tribal here, you only have a young history of sport, so really its no comparison to the European supporters, get some chants together, and make words to a well known song that'll help you on the way

check out the passion on the italians singing the national anthem before games....

8:50 the best fans ever

Stadium has to shake/bend like that or it will crack instead :)

Everybody laugh about that american on microphone " fight and win" BUT in the video , thats the best fan of the american part. If you hear well, they sing from one side to the other side (they respond). A little bit like "aux armes" from Marseille fan. But f course this is nothing comparate to european crowd but

Only if you come to Europe or South America, you will understand why football is the most important secondary thing in the world.

haha ado you get what are they singing? McGuire is on fire, your defense is terrifying, nananananan