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I remember when I was little watching my Gramma who couldn’t walk for 10 years get up and start dancing during a Pentecostal tent meeting.. she’s been walking ever since.. I remember uncontrollably crying and laughing.. I’ve experienced some unbelievable things and since then I’ve been learning to discern and make sure that my faith is on a solid biblical foundation.. but I chased after those experiences until my faith was absolutely shipwrecked.. we always have to make sure we’re in Gods word so we don’t go wild chasing after the gifts rather than focusing on the gift giver..

@Moniquesworld

Жыл бұрын

Praise God for your grandmothers healing and what that did for your faith and life

@klwheeler1590

Жыл бұрын

Gems all gems. Thank you for sharing and I’m glad your Grandma was healed.

@Janwills415

Жыл бұрын

Amen.. on all accounts.

@jessicamenchaca4970

Жыл бұрын

Same happened to me but God helped me into his solid truth , praise you Lord.

The goal is not to heal everyone. The goal is to SAVE everyone through the blood of Christ.

@danielhensley934

Жыл бұрын

No, that was what Jesus came to do, to find and save the lost. Our goal is to go and disciple nations...saving the lost has never been our assignment. That's been a major issue with us from the begining...so many leaders have taught what they were taught and not what His Word teaches. for the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost.” Luke 19:10 NKJV And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. Matthew 28:18‭-‬20 NKJV

@robertadeakins-figueroa7368

Жыл бұрын

@@danielhensley934 Obvious we can't save anyone. Only Jesus can do that. But we can introduce them to Jesus. We can show them the love that Jesus showed the prostitutes, tax collectors and leppers.

@JudasMaccabeus1

Жыл бұрын

Semantics

@tagladyify

29 күн бұрын

@@danielhensley934 thanks similar to saying corporations are people, too. No it’s the people in the nations and or corporations that matter.

@tagladyify

29 күн бұрын

That’s not thanks

Over the course of the Corona shutdown, I’ve seen so many of my brothers and sisters in Christ fall away from the faith, while my wife and I only drew closer to Him. Thank to apologetics, and channels like this, my foundation has been… reinforced. Thank for you for the work you do.

@joshuanumber727

Жыл бұрын

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It is interesting that the holy laughter manifestation. I would call it "goofy" too if I had not seen it myself. My wife experienced it while at a conference. She experienced it while battling depression and was angry at God for being diagnosed with a chronic health condition. She went forward to the altar and started laughing uncontrollably. She later said it was like experiencing unexpressable joy.

@RS-bs3mj

Жыл бұрын

@stephen wood - thanks for sharing mate. That’s great she experienced joy. Was she healed of the depression after the laughter?

@bigtobacco1098

Ай бұрын

Scripture for holy laughter ??

Ruslan, I recommitted my life in the midst of a move of God and felt an incredible power move through me which did feel like electricity….and it became to heavy for me to stand. It was the most wonderful and edifying experience. I have never turned away and Christ is above all! Please do listen to Bill Johnson preach after his wife died.

@ladyl4147

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Most powerful preaching on losing a loved one. Best yet

First time i truly spoke in tongues, i laughed a ton but it was from an overflow of joy. I felt the presence of God so strongly i was on the ground laughing & praying in tongues, i tried to get up but had a little trouble. Ik some if that stuff can be emotionalism, or even demons manifesting but for me personally it was just an overwhelming feeling of joy, peace, and the presence of God.

Once at summer camp I experienced laughing in the Spirit, I couldn’t stop…and it was a different kind of laughter. It was a beautiful moment and I felt a great joy. I don’t agree with everything, especially with some of the weird stuff that Bethel does, but let’s not put God in a box either. 🙏🏽

I fell into this early on in my salvation journey and it nearly broke me. Expecting the supernatural with no solid foundation in the word/a relationship with God is dangerous. After years of believing for miracles with all my heart and seeing none, I ended up questioning God because I didn’t know what was real and what was sensationalized. At some point, I didn’t even believe if He was real or if we made Him up. I thank God I didn’t complete fall out of faith but I’m still building my relationship with Him after that major blow.

@marinalina6348

Жыл бұрын

Same

@andinda7915

Жыл бұрын

Bro you are basically saying people should hold back in unbelief? We are not of them that draw back to perdition, I came to the faith having witnessed the miraculous healing of my once blind father. Miracles exist, if you do not see one happen ask God what you are missing. But this cope out because of unbelief is not acceptable.

@djhu306

Жыл бұрын

He is God... not a genie. He still heals. He still delivers. He still provides. He still leads us beside still waters and sets a table for us in the presence of our enemies. He still speaks. He still reveals secrets. I don't know why you didn't see even one miracle... is it possible you did but you weren't looking in the right place? Not to be trite. But I talk to people all the time who tell me extraordinary things as if it was just some bizarre coincidence or a humdrum experience... and until I would be astonished and they would realize... oh! That WAS a miracle. Just a thought @Humble_Homie.

@logansales7000

Жыл бұрын

For real fam

@hopeandtruth6108

Жыл бұрын

@@andinda7915 That's amazing that God produced a miracle that led you into faith in him! That's why Jesus and his disciples did healings and miracles, to bring attention and glory to the Father. It was in his will, to have his message spread far and wide. At times, it's also his will to leave a thorn in the flesh, and to say "my grace is sufficient for thee". At times, he lets a righteous man lose his home, children, possessions and health for his ultimate glory (Job). We can ask and believe in faith, but God must also will it. It must be for a good work in his kingdom, and ultimately bringing someone (like you!) to saving faith is certainly a glory to the Father. It's the ultimate miracle! To be saved from death and hell, and to have eternal life with the Father. Miracles can and do happen. But I think the person who posted means (and I've experienced) the idea that it's ALWAYS God's will to heal people, but we do not see that to be true in the Bible. I, for one, grew immensely in my sickness, and have a stronger walk with the Lord than if he'd just removed it right away. We can believe, we may see miracles, but God knows the things we don't and can do a good work in suffering (Paul says we boast in our sufferings!) and so for some, we will get our ultimate healing in eternity. ❤️ The gospel is the most important thing. If God uses miracles to bring faith, that's one of the amazing ways he works. He does have compassion, and he will bring relief at times-- but His will is to refine us spiritually, and that can happen in suffering. He doesn't always take away the pain or sickness; but it's amazing when he does, and it brings him glory!! And, it's just as big of a miracle when I see someone's heart change because the Holy Spirit convicted them out of their life of sin, and brought them to repentance! How amazing that is!!

Struggling to watch this! Who is Ruslan to say that Holy Spirit can’t minister with what feels like bolts of electricity. What would he have said if he heard”what appeared to be flames of fire?”

I lead a charismatic church and i agree. We can walk in power and faith with out it being a freak show.

Definitely looking firearms to this docuseries !

I was a Baptist, didn’t believe that the Holy Spirit was “for today”. This charismatic Pentecostal man prayed for me, that the Holy Spirit would “fill me up” and for the next 4 hours or so I literally felt drunk and couldn’t stop laughing and I swear I’m not making this up. All of a sudden I knew this was more to what I was taught about the Holy Spirit. I’m not saying everything about the charismatic movement is true but I do now believe that the Holy Spirit is active, does deliver gifts of the Spirit and can manifest in ways that are “unnormal” to the American Church

@elidornton1011

Жыл бұрын

Amen. How we do church in the went ISNT NORMAL CHRISTIANITY! Acts is normal Christianity, the gifts of the sprit working laid out in 1 Corinthians is normal Christianity. Walking as Jesus walked on this earth is normal Christianity, with a complete reverence for God and belief in every word in the Bible. God wants to make us into His image more and more every single day. Not to desire gifts for OUR glory but all for the glory of Yeshua!

@bigtobacco1098

Ай бұрын

I'll take any examples of the gifts from church history

It’s possible to laugh in the spirit I’ve seen it at my church and many churches. Nothing whack about it 🙏🏽

@bigtobacco1098

Ай бұрын

Scripture ??

Too many charismatic ministries are focused primarily on the prophetic and signs and wonders while completely butchering the Scriptures with no accountability. The Lord wants His church to have a deep reverence for His Word-His TRUE Word. Not twist it and sacrifice sound doctrine like so many in the American church are doing today.

@tagladyify

29 күн бұрын

Not just America. It’s global. I know for sure in South Africa, UK, Australia, Netherlands, Canada, South America for many years. Even before USA existed. We can find these issues in the early church.

So much food for thought and study. I would really like more from y'all on this topic!!

Personally, God is in the process of healing my childhood trauma wounds, by the renewing of my mind. Realizing not just my sin died with Christ, but also my wounds, has been a game changer for me. And, declaring scripture over my life out loud daily in the secret place, along with prayer and Bible study, laying hold of the promises of God, is delivering me from anxiety day by day. Praise God!

I left a charismatic church after attending for about 15 months. The pastor is amazing, he speaks biblical truth but some of the leaders within the church are the goofy charismatics that give charismatics a bad name. It got so hard to attend because some of the things they were doing was so distracting and a lot of times I left feeling like a failure because I wasn't crying uncontrollably, speaking prophesy, laughing in the spirit, speaking in tongues and so on...But one of the moments that where I finally had enough was when a woman walked by carrying a sword 😳 the next week she was running around with a pole with a ribbon on it. Crazy stuff. The last service we watched, the campus pastors of the main church ( there are 3 campuses) were flailing around laughing uncontrollably and one of them commanded the lead pastor to do impartation on the congregation. So people ran up and he literally just walked past them and touched their heads. It looked like a celebrity on stage walking by shaking hands, just that nonchalantly. My husband and I had enough. But God, He led us back to our home church and it has been the best thing for us. I think maybe we needed to see how things were elsewhere to truly know God has been where we were all along.

@SonOfThineHandmaid

Жыл бұрын

"...a woman walked by carrying a sword" That is some GTA San Andreas level crazy.

I’m very skeptical of this stuff. I will say though when I received my prayer language, I felt a shot of pure unadulterated joy and I couldn’t stop laughing. One of the gifts of the Spirit is joy. I am

Ruslan, I serve and attend a Calvary Chapel and I fully agree with your statement "I'm a charismatic with a seatbelt, that seatbelt is the Word of God." All these charismatic people not every reading their Bible.

@JohnJohn-nh2rl

Жыл бұрын

Amen, charismatic is not the problem

“This is a sickness.” Haaaa I’m here for the channel cross overs! 🎉😂

@DavidElendu

Жыл бұрын

Where in the video does he say this 🤣🤣

@cheto0911

Жыл бұрын

@@DavidElendu It’s one of the sound effects he uses!! 😂

Excited to hear from that new guest 🔥

I am right in line with your thoughts Ruslan

Continuationists believe that gifts have continued to today, but they don’t necessarily practice them or seek to. Charismatics believe the gifts have continued and they actively engage and practice in them. Charismaniacs abuse the gifts in ways they were never meant.

@FromWarWithLove

Жыл бұрын

I’m a continuationist, and I practice the spiritual gifts. Bad definition, brother. Continuationist and charismatic are synonymous with each other.

@Particularly_John_Gill

Жыл бұрын

@@FromWarWithLove No. it just means you’re both. As Ruslan said “All charismatics are continuationists, but not all continuationists are charismatics.” I myself believe in the gifts and that they continued but I do not practice them. So I myself am a continuationist but not a charismatic.

@evangelpaul1027

Жыл бұрын

I’m confused a little bit. How can any Christian regardless of denomination claim to have received the holy spirit but be locked out of that which comes with him? Just seems strange to me.

@bigtobacco1098

Ай бұрын

I'll take any examples of the gifts from church history

I’m 1:44 in but I can tell you if my two year old died I would ask believers to pray for the same thing, my dog got shot by someone in a hunting accident and I prayed that the lord would resurrect her.

To many people never read their Bibles.

@djhu306

Жыл бұрын

Right... no where in scripture does it say that the office of apostle or prophet will be abandoned. No where. 1 Corinthians tells us that prophecy will cease... But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away. I Corinthians 13:10 NKJV. Has the perfect come yet? Nope. Then yall better vibe with the ministry model Christ left us... Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, Pastors and Evangelists for the equipping of the saints. We saints are still here and we still need equipping.

@DavidElendu

Жыл бұрын

@@djhu306 there are no more apostles. Everything else is true

I am at the point of being done with the critical side of this. I don’t care if someone starts doing hand stands and cart wheels. If they get up and are changed (walk away more like Jesus) then I’m going to give God the glory. I’m in the north east of the US. It is dead here. I was around 20 years ago when things were happening. I drove to Toronto airport Christian fellowship for a weekend. It was fun. I don’t think anything special happened to me there but things came from there. Yes, a lot of stuff is wrong. We need Jesus and everyone has a starting point. I wish everyone came into Christianity with full and accurate theology. It isn’t going to happen. Fall in love with Jesus and Lear and grow from there. I believe there is a Revival coming. I hope it happens again. I think this needs to be big tents and fields and people seeking the real Jesus.

The only time I felt bolts of electricity or literal vibrations was when I suffered from sleep paralysis. I found God an hasn’t happened since. ❤

@siddiqsmouse5004

10 ай бұрын

Kenneth Copeland is my sleep paralysis demon

Thank you for this. Especially coming from a charismatic! Looking forward to a full review of the documentary

Just food for thought, on the day of pentecost people thought the disciples were drunk when they were filled with the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:13 "Some, however, made fun of them and said, “They have had too much wine.”

I hate the term slain in the spirit but I understand the sentiment, also isn’t there like a pretty huge precedent for falling out in the presence of God in the Bible? (Gen. 17:3, Joshuah 5:14-15, Ezekiel 1:28 and 3:23, Daniel 8:17 and 10:15, Matthew 17:6, Acts 9:4 and 26:14 and Revelation 1:17) Also being filled with laughter is biblical too, right? (Genesis 21:6, Job 8:21, Psalm 126:2, Ecclesiastes 3:4, Luke 6:21) I agree people get weird and there are definitely a lot of abuses but to say that people who fall out in the presence of God or laugh are weird when there is biblical precedent seems unfair

@lynncollects

Жыл бұрын

Ty for this!

@paulajames6149

Жыл бұрын

The bible mentions laughter but never “being filled with laughter” or that the Spirit manifest in laughter in a believer. The fruit of the Spirit is self control.

@tubbsthabarber4507

Жыл бұрын

@@paulajames6149 I don’t know if you had a chance to look at the references I provided in my initial comment but Job 8:21 literally says He will “He will fill your mouth with laughing, and your lips with rejoicing.” That word “filled” is the Hebrew word “mālā’” which means to fill to fullness or overflow. Also, self control does not follow the definition many people attempt to apply to it. Self control means to allow you’re entire self to be moved or motivated by the Holy Spirit rather then the flesh. If it were to not be weird (as many apply that scripture) you would have to get rid of most of the Bible. There is no “self control” (by that regard) in speaking in tongues, asking a sick man if he wants healing, marrying a prostitute, dying on a cross, putting spit in a blind man’s eyes, breaking open a roof and lowering someone who needed healing through it, covering an altar with water and then calling down fire from heaven.. etc etc.. none of the great stories of faith in the Bible exercised self control as “being reformed” rather their self control was “being conformed into the image of God through faith in Jesus”

There's actually a scene in The chosen that hit me pretty hard the other day. It was Jesus talking to someone ,I don't remember who, but he said not everyone is healed but Jesus could heal everyone. Sometimes your testimony is not being healed but still praising God through the process and the tough times that you have with chronic illness or whatever it is. You're suffering in this world remind you that you there will be no suffering in heaven and for the rest of eternity. I've had young-onset Parkinson's since 2011, when I was forty-two years old. A lot of people have prayed for my healing but I kind of have a feeling that I may be one of those who are not healed but I still praise God and thank him for every blessing I have every day. I am working on starting a podcast to help others with Parkinson's and to educate and mentor people because I was a nurse for almost twenty years in this is a very complicated illness 2 walkthrough. I just remember my favorite scripture Romans 8:28 and God works ALL things together for good. Not just the good things but the hard things too.

@elidornton1011

Жыл бұрын

Ok but show me anywhere in scripture where Jesus actually said that. And show me anywhere in scripture where it WASNT Jesus will to heal someone. There isn’t one time in scripture where Jesus turned down healing someone. Not one. God bless you sister I mean no judgement but just commenting off what you heard in the chosen. Be careful to weigh that with what is said and shown to us in scripture. Everyone who sought Jesus for healing left whole & healed. But I 100% agree with you that we need to praise Him always wherever we see the healing or not. Because whether or not we’re healed in this life doesn’t change the goodness of God and it doesn’t change how worthy He is to be praised. But I just encourage you to seek the scriptures more on Gods will to heal. You will come to find that Jesus will was and always is to heal

I honestly think all these types of believers that we're having (Charismatic, continuous-ists, etc..) are unnecessary. It's starting to sound like more divisions in the body of Christ. I identify as a Christ follower. The church I go to is Biblically sounded and all I am concerned about is the word of God. As long as what is happening is supported by the Word of God I'm for it. If it deviates then I'm not on board with it.

Excited to hear more on all this!

I am curious about this claim about NAR believing that an apostle is NOT accountable. Who says this? Who subscribes to this? Who practices this? Receipts man ... I need receipts.

@djhu306

Жыл бұрын

Still waiting Ruslan... where are the receipts? While you look, don't forget the many reformed leaders, cessationists, evangelicals, baptists ,etc that did not or do not answer to accountability. Show us in scripture where we are prescribed to have boards... not elders and deacons... but boards of democratically elected believers that govern through voting. I will give you a hint... Joshua and Caleb would have been out voted. Same with Jesus... remember when the crowds tried to make Him king or when they shouted Crucify Him. Perhaps you remember when they all left Him after He said unpopular things... maybe even looney things.

Thank you for this video, commenting to help algorithm

I have laughed in the spirit and fell in the spirit for hours. But some of this stuff you showed is over the top.

Ruslan I agreed with some of your sentiments but not all of them thanks for doing this video nonetheless. May God continue to be with you.

I had an experience that felt like electricity was going through my body at home after a prayer

That was compulsive viewing - Thank you so much. I don't know why but I started listening to videos calling our Bethel. At first I thought it was harsh butvthe more I listened the more I realised what theywere going called out about. I listened to Bill and Kris a lot and didn't look too deeply into it. When KC showed up that was the final straw. I began to realise how far I had gone from the basics of the faith. I love this channel , Remnant Radio , Mike Winger and Justin Peiters . I have gone back to reading and meditating on scripture which is the real powerhouse. I will seriously think about supporting ministry. Keep em coming

@brich2542

Жыл бұрын

The Scriptures will always help you more than someone like Peters, who attacks them. His system has to deny a lot of Scripture.

8:00 first hand account. My father was praying for a woman to be healed. AN old gentleman was behind her and praying for her. My father, a minister of the gospel in its entirety, felt what he described as a shock go through him, that “feeling” went through the women and “electrified” the old man and instantly healed his back issues. I understand you haven’t seen it, but don’t discount it because you haven’t. If that were the case I’d have to not believe a lot of things don’t exist or can’t happen because I haven’t seen it first hand. -just my opinion

@elidornton1011

Жыл бұрын

We can’t dumb down the word of God to human experience. At that point what is our trust in? The word or our own experiences 🤔 Beautiful testimony brother. Well said

Make a video about the Asbury “revival” Rus

Part of the cop out I’ve heard in justification for everyone being healed is that everyone is healed but some are healed on the other side of eternity.

"Yikes" is right! God bless you all!

My first church that I got saved at borrowed and adhered to the teachings of Bethel. There were services where we were “falling out” by the “spirit”, but I remember faking so many of my reactions in order to fit in with the church as well as, in my head, honor Christ. We would have some “holy laughter” at times (not very prevalent though). It was a church that taught we were sinners in need of a Savior and that person is Jesus Christ, and evangelism was important, yet we had these fringe beliefs and views that would distract us from the Gospel and care more about “breakthrough” and spiritual giftings. Most of my growth came from studying the Bible by myself or with help of apologists such as Mike Winger and Allen Parr. Both of those men came out of fellowships that were similar to mine and they would describe the same activities that my church would do. Some of the members disliked me because I was not egalitarian and became insistent on interpretation when speaking in tongues. I would even show them the Scriptures, but would excuses after a while, saying “well that’s just cultural” or “that’s not part of the Spirit’s actions that we see here”. After a while, the Spirit was guiding me to a church that wanted to submit to the teachings of Christ and the apostles. Once I did find one, it was unfortunately Calvinistic and didn’t have an immense motivation to evangelize to the world. All this to say: I’ve been part of churches from both ends of the aisle. I know the dangers of ultra-charismatic churches that are willy-nilly with God’s doctrines, yet I also see danger in these hyper-critical reformed churches that preach a gospel that God unilaterally and effectually chooses people for salvation, while others he just passes over them, their deaths being the means in which he receives glory. Both churches have doctrines that dishonor God and we need to be honest about that.

Personally I have been slain in the Spirit at 2 occasions and every after such an encounter my hunger for God increased. Something shifted in me. This doesn’t mean you have to be slain in the spirit for your hunger for God to shift. It’s all by God’s grace. He draws us to Himself. After my recent encounter, I started walking in the gift of word of knowledge. I don’t assume to know much but I recommend we all seek God in person and ask for the spirit of discernment.

@lynncollects

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

I have seen people laugh in the spirit. On multiple occasions. And I have done it a few times myself. So, I don't see it an odd thing at all.

@claudiabailey5302

Жыл бұрын

And being younger in the 90’s I have seen people laugh in the so called spirit and bark like dogs. All of which have no biblical foundation whatsoever. But nobody cares about that because it felt good and we can cover it over with saying joy in the spirit. It is completely odd just to be sitting in church and laughing for no apparent reason at all let alone barking like a dog sorry.

@elidornton1011

Жыл бұрын

The joy of the lord is biblical, people barking like dogs is called being in the flesh. That’s why Paul laid out how the gifts are to be used IN ORDER in 1 Corinthians. I have seen people laughing uncontrollably in the spirit as I haven’t experienced it I know people that have that are true & genuine about their experience. Don’t write something off because you don’t understand it. It’s also important to note that people can be in acting out in the flesh in the same room as someone that’s being moved by the spirit

Great content guys! Thank you for this. Interesting take on the charismatic with a seatbelt piece- curious why the Word of God would be a seatbelt instead of the gas and steering wheel as the main influence?

I may actually, watch this American Gospel. Great video, definitely gotta share this video. I am Charismatic with a seat belt as well brother!

I have the exact same cup that I drink out of. I saw that and missed the fact that I am away from home and can’t drink from that “jar” for the next couple of weeks.

I was in school with Jesse Westwood. I am in the picture us camping in I believe his 2nd episode. We were in the same small group, I think

Man I feel so conflicted over this. I have totally been lost in worship with bethel music. And I have experienced signs and wonders myself. But like Ruslan said, never "goofy" I do know the word says ACCORDING TO YOUR FAITH.... So there's that. Definitely not down with the grave soaking. Lol

@Moresco24

Жыл бұрын

If you’d take the Time to go read my comment I explained pretty well, I get where everyone is coming from but the word is the word I’ve experienced crazy stuff too but never unbiblical like bethel ran off with, but I can’t get away from the fact Jesus healed them all in his human form on earth and then told us we can do the same ( then the only major time the disciples failed that we have recorded is because of unbelief Jesus said, not that it wasn’t gods will. So I think it’s not wrong ti have faith that God will and can do these things through everyone but stay backed up by the word and don’t get weird with it. I’d rather know that I have growing to do still than not believe the words of Jesus and say it wasn’t gods will.

@davidanddaniellerosales9974

Жыл бұрын

@@Moresco24 very true! That's where I stand with it also. I didn't see your original comment

I consider myself a Charismatic Presbyterian, not the most common combination, but we exist.

I think healing looks different in many places. I think God heals all the time, through medical, psychological, and emotional means. Meaning counseling, physical therapy, and medical procedures are all ways God heals us. If we don’t get healed we have to trust it’s his will. Not our call to make because we are not the creator of us.

I agree on the deacons and elders Ruslan!

I relate to the woman saying that she was ready to get slain in the spirit and nothing happened. I went to a Todd White conference and I felt so disappointed and confused afterwards because I just didn’t feel what the people around me were feeling. The Fire tunnel and stuff. I actually think I realized for the first time that something was off and ever since then I have wondered what is truly biblical when it comes to encounters and the movement of the Holy Spirit. Even prophecy seems to be misused. Thank you for sharing these videos.

@Wilshaffner

Жыл бұрын

Just because it didn't happen for you doesn't mean that it didn't happen. I wasn't there so you only know *you're* story, but if you have any questions about what God can do and has done, just look to His Word and study it over and over and read it all the way through (so many Christians have never read the Bible consistently and read the entire thing) and keep doing that every time you finish it. That is the only way you can know God and who He is and when He speaks and moves or not. Do not give up.

i agree bro , Im a charismatic with a seat belt ... love what you are doing on here , blessed be the name of the Lord

Bethel is big business. Bashing Bethel is also big business.

@djhu306

Жыл бұрын

Bro... that's a bar right there

Riiiiiight…. So, were they not exercising the fruit of self-control on the Fay of Pentecost?

At the end of it all, it’s going to come down to whether you truly know Jesus or not. There are those who chase power, and then there are those who the know the word without knowing the God of the Word. Don’t chase miracles and power. Seek the Lord and only Him.

"Charismatic with a seat-belt.. and that seat belts the Word of God." - I'm using that one from now on! :)

Man. I forgot what I watched the other day. But it was about a scholar who went to china to study why Chinese people were converting to Christianity, and something like 90% of them converted because of a miracle claim along the lines of healing or witnessing someone being raised from the dead.

@benschenkenberger9971

Жыл бұрын

Lee Strobel's book and video on "The Case for Miracles" refers to that statistic. Also Remnant radio?

@evanpedri

Жыл бұрын

@Ben Schenkenberger no. I don't think it's remininant. Is strobels book just about Chinese Christians? Because what I am reffering to is specifically about Chinese Christians

@elidornton1011

Жыл бұрын

I heard this too recently. I believe it was a video from either Isaiah Saldivar or Vlad Savchuk

@evanpedri

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@Eli Dornton it was ruslan and he was debating Destiny. The Book is kriegge keeners book. "Miracles the credibility of new testament accounts." That's the first volume. So maybe a different volume focuses on modern day ones.

I went to bethel and listened to bill Johnson. I’ve been a part of the line of people being pushed over in the spirit by him. He wouldn’t touch me, looked me in the eyes, paused and passed over me. I wasn’t going to fall lol.

God can and will do miracles. But only when it’s HIS sovereign will. We cannot hope that God will give us any supernatural abilities to manifest miracles for ourselves.

Wait wait wait, it’s not always Gods will to heal? You don’t think He wants to heal broken hearts, marriages, emotional wounds, etc.? What Scripture says He still heals souls but not body’s? I believe He still wants to heal people even if we don’t see everyone healed. Just like He desires all men to be saved even though not all men get saved. We build theology on that seat belt (!!!) not what we do or don’t experience. Love your content man keep it up!!

Sounds like Dr. Brown endorses Bill Johnson even after all that goofy stuff. One sermon by him doesn’t change what he’s teaching.

You should also review the “clap back” called “come out in Jesus name”

Idk Dr Brown was part of Brownsville revival! 🤯

As far as the so called ‘apostles’ I go with what Lester Sumrall said - he said when someone wants a title it’s usually related to pride. He said he only wanted to be known as a man of faith.

Rusland: read Jonathan Edwards on how to discern the manifestations

I go to a PCA church and they do Tell us to come to the front if you need prayer, that is not a charismatic thing...

I’m a Calvinist with a seat belt

A little history: the Brownsville Revival included manifestations like shaking, laughing, and when people were baptized (in water) they came up passed out. There were fire tunnels. That move had some weird things happening and we were told to get out of our comfort zone and be prepared for God to do unusual things. It was strange and uncomfortable to me, but I was led to feel guilty that I felt that way. I was already walking closely with God at that point in my life so I dismissed it as something that other people maybe needed but now looking back I wish I was more confident to speak up.

Ruslan , would you consider these things that Jesus did weird ? “Mark 7:33 “And taking him aside from the crowd privately, he put his fingers into his ears, and after spitting touched his tongue.” John 9:6-7 “he spit on the ground and made mud with the saliva. Then he anointed the man’s eyes with the mud [7] and said to him, “

The gasps... Haha! All the time!

I definitely know people who have been “slain in the spirit”. So it does happen. But what the mechanics of it are? Idk. I appreciate Dr.Michael Brown for emphasizing being balanced. At the end of the day, if you believe in Jesus, you’re a sibling. And we have a responsibility to protect, listen to & be kind to each other.

Ruslan: "I'm not a big fan of flags." Westboro Baptist: "God hates flags."

@connorobrien3958

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Hahahaha

I had an encounter with God early on that changed my life, the best wAy I can describe it was ‘electricity or power shooting through me. You can’t say that’s not God just cause never felt this,with that being said I think people can go way to far with some of this,,,,,

What l can say is that we will always have extremism an we can always have hyper emotionalism. What to avoid is seeking a manifestation of an experience more than seeking Jesus. If there is an experience expressed through emotions after seeking Jesus then no problem. One day we were watching Rodney and my mother was critical of all the laughter and before long she had to run to her own bedroom because she started feeling some weird sensation from her inner belly rising up on the inside whilst watching Rodney Howard Brown.

I love my church but I am so worried some of this ideology might start to slowly seep in. Was not my favorite Sunday when we hosted a guest pastor from Bethel who basically preached the prosperity gospel.

That "laughing revival" was not from Our Creator. I saw Howard Brown, the first 2 hours was Dad jokes and the last 10 minutes, an altar call - I looked right at him multiple times and he acted like he wasn't going to touch me with a 10 foot pole. I saw right through him and I think he realised it.

The slaying in the spirit and “holy” laughter is pretty prevalent. Growing up charismatic I saw those things at least a couple times in 3/5 of the churches I have attended. And any of the large conferences these churches took us too had LOTS of this stuff.

I think that it is a mix of the Holy Spirit and people acting in their own mind. The Bible does say that there will be joy that surpasses all understanding. I believe in divine healing and have received in but I also now suffer with physical and mental pain from my last tour to Afghanistan. I know that God can heal but it will be in His time. I will serve Him and live a life for Him even if He does not heal me for the rest of my life.

She ‘came to life’ when she came out of the movement. I ‘came to life’ when I found the movement. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

No one is saying charismatically ‘have to’ be involved in anything.

Its Crazy how many names and terminologies there are nowadays. Can't you just be a Christian that follows the bible with good interpretations etc

Catholics would say the institution of the CC is the present day Apostle or fills the office of apostle because it goes right back to Peter

Alistair Begg with the scripture reading! Can we get a PEACE! Sweater merch?

Do you call people pastors? If yes, why don’t you call people apostles? If one of these ministries has ceased all of them have ceased, since they’re all given for the edification of the church until we all come to the unity of faith, ain’t it? We understand there are abuses and deception, should we refute the scriptures because of them?

Honestly I was super skeptical about people breaking down laughing in the spirit until it happened to me. Do I think some manufacturer this sure but I think there’s is authenticity as well

Do they got Dr. Michael brown in that new out in Jesus name documentary?

Calvary Chapel, is a continuationist Church. But, I wouldn't say we're "charismatic." So... You're going to get preaching that is mostly, chapter by chapter, verse by verse. We are extremely careful when it comes to the 'apostolic' gifts. You are basically walking into an Evangelical Church, and sometimes, someone might have a Word of Wisdom, etc... To give to someone. But, it doesn't happen every time.

Can you link to the original content when you make these videos so we can watch it after watching yours

I am cautiously cessationist and humbly admit that I may be wrong in some areas.

You want to hear from God? Read scripture

@djhu306

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But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you. John 14:26 NKJV So Philip ran to him, and heard him reading the prophet Isaiah, and said, “Do you understand what you are reading?” And he said, “How can I, unless someone guides me?” And he asked Philip to come up and sit with him. Acts 8:30‭-‬31 NKJV Is it not the Holy Spirit that helps us understand Scripture? Many have read the holy texts and not heard the voice of God. Many listened to Jesus (God Himself) and never heard God. Absolutely we need to be rooted in the word... but the Word, Himself, does indeed speak... even today.

@ryanadams5719

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@@djhu306…agreed. The Word Himself does indeed speak today…. Do You have some examples of what He is saying,that are outside of scripture? Yes,for sure the Holy Spirit will bring to remembrance the words of Christ……..which the only words of Christ that we have are the words recorded in scripture. John 14:26 Jesus is addressing His followers……not unbelievers. In ACTS 8 The Ethiopian Eunuch was reading Isaiah…..He could not understand because He didn’t have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit……Phillip sat with Him….Phillip was likely to have been one of those followers that Jesus was addressing in John 14:26. Many physically heard the teachings of Jesus(God Himself)…..”but never heard the voice of God”??? If ANYONE heard Christ speak….They ABSOLUTELY heard the voice of God…..whether or not they understood,doesn’t change the fact that they heard from God.

@djhu306

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@@ryanadams5719 I believe you are missing my point. Many heard Jesus speak and NEVER heard the voice of God. They only heard Jesus, the carpenter's son from Nazareth... Mary's boy... can anything good come from Nazareth? For if indeed they heard the voice of God, they would have repented. For God may speak in one way, or in another, Yet man does not perceive it. Job 33:14 NKJV See God certainly speaks through the Bible.. why else would we have it? Is He limited to just 770,430 words though or does He have more to say? Does not Revelation tell us that there are scrolls that have not yet been revealed to us and that one day He will open the scrolls? Do we not expect a personal relationship with our Father? Does a good father never talk to his children? If you asked Him to speak to you, would He deny you? See Matthew 7:11. Would He just say, "Go read that book I gave you," and then never utter another word? I thought the new covenant far exceeded the old one. Why would they be able to talk to Him, meet with Him, inquire of Him and do miracles (before Pentecost and before Jesus) while we would be denied those things? If that were so, I want the old covenant back. But scripture tells that we have moved from glory to even greater glory. Why does this put some of y'all on the offensive? I just don't understand. In my charismatic circles, we love Scripture. I grew up with seminary students, professors and lecturers and learning was rich but the Charismatics that took me in after God spoke to me clearly and told me He had more for me, they would pour over the Scriptures, reciting it, praying through it begging God to do it again for hours upon hours... spending their lives on Christ. They lived the Scriptures (and still do). They taught the Scriptures. They meditated on them day and night. Their pages were tear soaked, worn, highlighted and underlined with notes upon notes popping out of every edge. And nearly everytime they read out some familiar or obscure passage, the words would land hard in our hearts. I loved my seminary church but man... my Charismatic church... they loved God and every word He ever uttered. He still has more to say.

Hey Ruslan! It’s much more prevalent than you may be aware of… Hyper-Charisma is at this point going to lessen the witness of Charismatic or Charismatic leaning churches (just like hyper-Calvinist and etc. do to the Reformed camp). I’d call myself a lightly Reformed lightly Charismatic, and the damage NAR has done is heartbreaking.

I don’t even know what I am anymore 😂😂 guess I’m a reformed charismatic?! I’ve been in so many Christian circles…. This stuff is a little tiring but at the same… we gotta stand on God’s word all day everyday

I was at the Brownsville revival quite a few times and it was very very weird more than you think. Kids in the back dressed goth shaking and flopping on the floor.

The whole problem is the abuse all this so call pastors have done with the Holy Spirit. Slaid by the Holy Spirit or joy in the Spirit is real; however, some camps have taken it as the sole proof that the Holy Spirit is present, which is not biblical. This is when the Kundalini spirit takes over those congregations. So Ruslan, it may sound wacky, but it is real; nevertheless, it should not be the goal of our pursuit; our pursuit has to be and always be Jesus Christ. On another note, in my personal opinion, I would not call the Calvary movement charismatic; they would be more like modern Baptists with great verse-by-verse Bible studies. Cancel Button: Press HERE

“Cessation” = the sign gifts have ceased with the death of the apostles. -> “Continuation” = These gifts of the Spirit continue without cessation and are passively received but not sought. “ -> “Charismatic” = the gifts continue and are actively sought after. -> “Pentecostal” = “the gifts continue, and they must be sought because they, especially tongues, are a sign that one has received what they call “the baptism of the Holy Spirit.”