They should be making them in all sizes like AAA, AA, C, D, and 9v to replace all the other batteries that are rechargeable! This will help to save millions of batteries being thrown away every day!

If I hear the phrase “.. will SHOCK the entire industry…” on KZread one more time I will get seriously ill. Can’t these KZreadrs find another verb to use - any verb!

If Natron Energy was supplying sodium ion batteries, why didn't they make them for everyone including solar power stations and electric cars? Maybe they will wait for the Chinese to put them out of business first.

Lithium ion is the only reason why I haven't purchased an EV at this moment because they are a fire hazard on wheels. Give me the first reasonable priced NaIon cars and I may leave my petrol car.

@2011ppower

10 ай бұрын

non flammable petrol?????

@mikewurlitzer5217

10 ай бұрын

You mean the very petrol cars which on average have 400 fires per day in the USA?

@vsuarezp

10 ай бұрын

Yep, the fires you can easily control with water or extinguishers. @@mikewurlitzer5217

@vsuarezp

10 ай бұрын

@@2011ppower Petrol is flammable, Li-ion is a blasting inferno that no fire-fighting technology can extinguish at the moment.

@SolAce-nw2hf

10 ай бұрын

Same here. It's mostly the NMC generation that has this risk, but a parking lot full of LFP EV's will still burn to the ground if just one faulty NMC car starts the fire. Lithium battery fires are much more dangerous than petrol fires, as they can not be stopped in any way and will burn for days.

How do we invest in this company ? I think it's great that an American company is moving fast in this field.

The world is getting so good at batteries it is so great to know we are getting ahead of the problem of battery energy it is just so important for the future for humanity it is a energy that will just get better with more breakthroughs every day. We can stretch fossil fuels longer and use them in specific places where electric vehicles are not able to work..

2:02 i dont know where it comes from but the fact is that Sodium-Ion Batteries have LOWER energy density compared to li-ion.

@drakemia4079

9 ай бұрын

But we have plenty of stuff to make the batteries with sodium and it is a endless supply that is a big deal.

One of many videos about batteries where we learn almost nothing. The reality is the offer on the market and verified catalog data.

@emilioagudelo5787

10 ай бұрын

It's on a good way . CATL sodium solid battery starts 2 big factories in Tailand

@drakemia4079

10 ай бұрын

@@emilioagudelo5787and we can produce electricity in many ways for ever not so with fossil fuels they get harder to find and cause so much damage and pollution in the water and air and soil .

@emilioagudelo5787

10 ай бұрын

@@drakemia4079 I agree , my project next year will be firstable to install a solar system at home , then to buy a good EV .. I'm currently living in Colombia in a farm nearby preserved nature and I enjoy my autonomy , organic food and energy is a big part to get it

@SteveStowell

9 ай бұрын

Assume English is not your primary language?

@kefasdring6100

9 ай бұрын

Yes, you are right, and I can also appreciate something about this video. It is a perfectly understandable speech.

Lol! Chinese Cars BYD has CATL condensed state sodium- Ion batteries. 🤪🤣 👍

It appears this could be a game changer and finally move us away from petroleum at a faster rate.

This is not new this is something that Chinese announced long time ago will come out next year on electric cars.

Can’t wait to have one!…

Faradion a UK company has been making these batteries for years and was sold to an Indian company. So where do you get "NEW, AMERICAN BATTERY" Problem is weight so no good for cars but great for homes but you cannot find them. Mentioning cheap renewable resources are sold expensive!

Why "a strategic partnership" with Clarios, a LEAD-ACID BATTERY manufacturer? Hardly the best partner for getting into the high voltage EV batteries for powering electric cars? Secondly, while Cobolt is a rare metal, Lithium isn't, it is the most abundant metal on Earth. Checking the stock, their current patents and the last round of financing being entirely private this video sounds a lot like a pump-and-dump scheme.

so if we will be less dependant on fossil fuels then where will the electricity come from to charge them up?

What is the energy density? All you said is that it is more than Li ion. There's a fair range of density in Li ion with some claiming to have hit the 500Whrs per Kg. Your video is more like an advert than actually informative. More details, less BS.

@teodorsalerm8621

10 ай бұрын

Specs from Narton site -> 17.3 Wh/kg. One battery is 75 kg and gets about 1.3kWh. Unfortunately it's a bit far from the 140 Wh/kg sodium battery the chinese HiNa claimed. An usual Li-ion -> 80-120 Wh/ kg.

This video is rubbish. If you go to Natron's site, they quote an energy density of 16.5 Wh/Kg, which is completely inadequate for use in cars. Their website makes it clear that their batteries are intended for stationary storage, not for cars.

Frequency mixed with vibration and the cooling process when making glass salt, allows power transfer and stops batteries blowing up and dendrites.

I hope they hurry, CATL just announced that they will be mass producing a new battery with similar specs by the end of the year and they will be in Tesla EVs starting next year. If the other EV manufacturers are smart they will team up with CATL for their batteries.

Na-Ion... Is the future. Ideal for large installation especially construction machinery, Industrial properties, commercial enterprises, home, large vehicles, trailers.... Basalt fibre is the ideal construction material.

What ever happened to the vaunted polymorphous silicon anode? Just like all other KZread videos - This New & Improved Technology Shocks the Auto Industry 😮🤠

Cheaper to produce = 2-3x higher price… But anyway, internet holds everything and video full of CGI raises many red flags…

Time to mass produce this battery ASAP, and stop the very dangerous lithium ion batteries fires 🔥

My understanding is that sodium-ion battery basic problem is its power density compared with lithium battery. In this vides, the opposite claim is made. From various KZread videos, only a couple of Chinese EV models employ this type of battery (Chinese-made of course) today. If so good as claimed, why no other (tens of models worldwide) EVs employ it today?

Want to see it then ill believe

We will have a cleaner future .

How much lower is the sodium-ion per cell than lithium?

THey have a clip where extreme heat testing in a tesla does this mean they use Natron battery ?

Discovery from CATL, china

Other company's sodium ion battery is in the market.is this video is outdated one?

What about home backup?

@KymPridham

9 ай бұрын

BYD

They quite literally, shocked

I don't buy it. When something is too good to be true, it usually is. It seems as if they want investors, not customers. But I'll be thrilled to be proven wrong.

Other non advertising sites say different Quote: Sodium ion batteries have been at the cutting edge of battery research in recent years, but they degrade quickly when charged and discharged and such short lifespans make them far less practical as a replacement for long-lasting lithium ion batteries. From a German company that is heavily involved in them.

@KymPridham

9 ай бұрын

very old information

@ChrisHPSNZ

8 ай бұрын

Altech Batteries

Still does not explain why they were not known. People still would have pulled these batteries and use them .

Sodium-ion battery: Charging - 15 minutes Range - 120 km or more (enough for 80%people)

@drakemia4079

9 ай бұрын

I agree.

Let's just hope this is not overhyped. Because if Sodium could be better, why have others been going for lithium

@biocaster777

10 ай бұрын

Lithium has better capacity, giving better performance and isn't that hard to find. And batteries aren't expected to be idiotproof so sodium's advantage just doesn't cut it for most. The prominence of electric car fire seems to change that, though.

@mikewurlitzer5217

10 ай бұрын

@@biocaster777 Sodium is vastly more abundant and significantly lower in cost than Lithium. IF and I stress IF sodium only equals the energy density and charge times it would be superior to Lithium. If energy density is greater and or charge times are reduced with sodium, then continuing down the lithium path would be stupid.

@biocaster777

10 ай бұрын

@@mikewurlitzer5217 Of course. But alas, we can't have nice things.

@MichaelClark-uw7ex

10 ай бұрын

@@biocaster777 Not hard to find? Lithium has to be strip mined, the richest ore is less than 2% Lithium and the processing produces tons of very toxic waste which is essentially useless.. Sodium is in every drop of seawater, the only byproduct of extracting Sodium is Chlorine which has literally thousands of industrial uses.

@biocaster777

10 ай бұрын

@@MichaelClark-uw7ex Keyword: That hard. Doesn't mean not hard at all. Here's a thing, it can be found and mined pretty much anywhere. But not many place has the amount that make mining it practical.

What ever company comes up with a sodium ion battery (double the energy density of lithoum ion), every worker there should get millions of dollars and the presidents should get a billion dollar bonus.

@adr2t

10 ай бұрын

Lilly like 10 of them at this point - Na will be the next step - but solid state will be what will carry them forward. That will be for Li and Na. Na still has some draw backs, but it will be good for everyone if they come come out in the long term.

@neilwani1178

10 ай бұрын

@@adr2t Really have not seen a cheap battery with 500 W/kg come out. If they had, there would be no more lithium ion batteries anymore.

@adr2t

10 ай бұрын

@@neilwani1178 I mean it took almost 30 years for the Li battery to come out. Its going to take another 30 years for another method to come out - we're nearing that actully. Solid state Na Sulfur batteries. Granted, Li will also have the abuility to also use these new methods too. Li will hit something like 5-600 while Na will be something like 3-400. Almost double the power dens of the current 150-200 of current Na batteries meaning you should be able to add more or use less depending on the range you want to hit. Cheap isnt the goal - the real goal is manufacturing scale. If you can scale the production then everything else just gets cheaper because of it. Li has a limited supply of mining supply. Na will have the ability to be mine at almost 10x meaning there will be a larger supply and thus allow manufacturing scales to produce enough batteries for all sorts of products - batteries in EV to Grid/Homes.

Natron is not in a rush to supply their batteries to solar homeowners. Wonder what issues they have making this lucrative venture lacking.

@mikewurlitzer5217

10 ай бұрын

Need to supply their target industry first while ramping up for other uses. Unlike government, they cannot just print the money they need to design for other applications.

@bernardaho1913

10 ай бұрын

@@mikewurlitzer5217 if their sodium batteries are so good why not use the same 48 volt server rack ones they use for industry to provide power for solar homeowners? Doesnt look like that would take much of a change.

@adr2t

10 ай бұрын

@@bernardaho1913 Supply? Doesnt matter where they go - if you dont have the supply you are not going to magically make them go some place else. EVs will have first claim on a lot of these new batteries. Grid has other options and most grid options are for the larger grid - not your home. Home requires prices to be cheap and being lots of supply - neither of them are going to be there for another 5-10 years.

Does the Natron battery require a battery management system for charging?

@chillfluencer

10 ай бұрын

Natron isn't Sodium...

Sodium batteries 2023👍 sale date 2123.???🤦‍♂️

lol, The Natron cell costs $0.78 more than the Panasonic 2170 cell. SO HOW IS IT CHEAPER ? it costs $0.78 more 😂

@SolAce-nw2hf

10 ай бұрын

Lasting longer, charging faster saving you time, 100% charge without degradation, not burning down your EV, home and family sound cheaper to me in the end. High volume production will reduce pricing, but prices are also a matter of supply and demand. I think we will pay a premium for a while, even if production cost is much lower.

@Swiv2020

10 ай бұрын

Ok so how many cars will use this technology in 2025 ? Probably less than 1 as it's too expensive and Lithium Ion is down 4.3% this year.@@SolAce-nw2hf

Is that true?

Interesting but cobalt and lithium are not rare earth metals.

What about home batteries?

Wait what are the benefits... I missed them the first three times

CATL salt battery will be in production In late 2023, I do not know who is shocking who 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I like the battery. Note about narration: There is something unpleasant about the narrator's voice.

Less weight? More capacity? BS

I will believe in such a solution if Elon Musk or another well-known manufacturer starts producing such batteries for his products.

@tatradak9781

10 ай бұрын

CATL is producing since 6 months for Tesla China.. This video is at least 2 years out of date.. Watched as hoped for some update but it's factually correct but tells of nothing new other than the newest Na-Ion cells are now 175wh/kg but you have to remember that it's full charge discharge cycle unlike Li-ion 20%/80%.

Everybody and everything is shocking nowadays. Idiots paradise!

China: 🤣🤣🤣

I would like to watch your videos but I find it stressful to try to understand the narrator with the voice frequently drowned by the background music. I fail to see the need for music at all in this type of video at all. Therefore, I regretfully unsubscribe.

@mikewurlitzer5217

10 ай бұрын

Music on KZread videos is obnoxious. We no longer have silent movies and the need to music in the background is totally unneeded and annoying.

🪐👽🛸⚗️🦉🖖

Blah, blah, blah, same old nonsense. Who cares. Where can I buy them? Until I can click a button and have one sent to my doorstep none of this matters.

I must assume the sodium used in these batteries is somehow prevented from coming in contact with humidity/water as I know from experience, if you drop sodium into water, hydrogen and heat are released rapidly and fire/explosion is sure to follow.

@acmefixer1

10 ай бұрын

If what you say is true, then you should explode and burst into flames. About 1% of your body fluids are made of sodium and chlorine ions from the salt that you eat. 🤷

@drakemia4079

10 ай бұрын

Safer than a oil well blow out that destroys the ocean for ever

@mikewurlitzer5217

10 ай бұрын

​@@drakemia4079 There have been quite a few "blowouts" which DID NOT destroy the ocean forever. Even the Exxon Valdez disaster did not destroy anything forever. There is NOTHING the left will refuse to lie about to defend their indefensible ideology. I see you have no problem using a device which REQUIRED a lot of oil to manufacture and possibly to power. I wonder how you manage to eat food which did not require oil/gas to plow, plant, fertilized, harvest the fields and then transport to a processing plant requiring oil/gas for processing and more oil/gas to transport to a store. Please stop eating such foods so we can be spared such dishonesty.

@SolAce-nw2hf

10 ай бұрын

I would not recommend opening any battery, because the same thing will happen. Spliting salt (NaCl) into Na (sodium) and Cl (chloride) takes a lot of energy, just like splitting H2O (water) into H2 (hydrogen) and O2 (oxygen). In their pure form, each element is dangerous to handle because it will react and release it's energy. This is why every battery needs to comply to safety standards and rigorous testing is done. Sodium batteries are now proving to be the safest battery technology. When it does fail, it will first react with other materials in the battery in a more controlled way. I think this is a large improvement in safety over anything else available. And unless you use a chainsaw and a swimming pool, i think you will be fine.

Oh no. Elong Musk. Cry

yes they think they are superior with energy well the battery sounds good cheap low weight very good i like that but there it stops because it is doing the same thing other batterys doing energy storage that is the job from a battery. but now they start thinking about data centers well if he is using 1 Mw you need a storage from at least 1 Mw and a suply from 1Mw to charge them woke believers with no sun and no wind, it is only a backup for a X time. i use a battery only i take 6Kwh from it to create 40 Kwh and we can create a other 6Kwh to charge the battery so it never going empty. so a battery is nothing other then a storage it needs energy to load it. the time to store it play a big role 2 minutes or 2 days. 200 batterys from 20 Kwh is 4000Kwh 200 x 40 Kwh is8000 Kwh and this is not needed in battery power, it is what it is storage for what you need!

But we will continue to make the electricity for EVs by burning fossil fuels.

@mikewurlitzer5217

10 ай бұрын

In Western NY we use Niagara falls. No need to burn water.

@adr2t

10 ай бұрын

Yes and no, there are always charts showing that Solar and Wind make up a good amount of power - the issue mainly comes down to storage - we burn more fossil fuels so make sure we cover the power usage - as we dont know how much power at a given time we need to produce. By allow batteries into the mix - we can stop wasting/buring more fossils fuels than needed and allow the day time sun engery to cover a lot of the night time. Places that have batteries already are showing they can reduce peeker plants by 25% already. Thats amazing. Granted, we still need to keep peeker plants in place to make some power - but we wont need as many as we do now to make that happen. Let alone, the carbon can be capture and put back into deep earth to be return to rock again.

@kerryburns6041

10 ай бұрын

@@adr2t I agree that advances in battery technology can make improvements, but it is still true that there is no "clean" way of making electricity, building a wind turbine or making a solar system. The hoped for rise in the number of EVs will require many new power stations and miles and miles of transmission lines and pylons, to power fast and complex vehicles when we mostly just want to get to work or the shops. Additionally, lack of "cheap" energy is slowing down our ability to plunder the Earth's resources, the more energy we have available to us, the more damage we do -- are you advocating a more rapid decline ?

@adr2t

10 ай бұрын

@@kerryburns6041 Well you have to define what you mean by "clean" because everything will have a carbon foot print, but how much carbon is the real question. I am not fully following your logic - while that might be true, ICE still requires buring more fossil fuels that requires a ton more energy to produce the gas you use. Let alone the transporting of the gas that uses gas. You also wasting a ton of energy just cooling the stuff once you transported to a gas station. Aka, an ICE car will only have about 1-10% of the energy that we could've burn at a power plant for 90-95%. Cables are easy to make and actully dont require that much energy to produce and normally last a whole life time of a human if not longer. RRR - Reuse, reduce, recycle allows you to reuse wire as it gets older and needs to be replace or can be reused in other locations. Cables in general are amazing in terms of low cost resourcse management. So I am not fully following your issues considering its not really a problem if we all switch over to EV/power. Let alone it adds small power plants to the grid in terms of cars and their batteries could off set power transporting around the country. Fun fact, you can use your Tesla during a power outage to power your house. Tell me how you can do that with a ICE power car? I am a big believer in solar than any other power generation only because it can be place anywhere and has the lowest maintenance cost compare to other forms of power generation as its a solid state (no moving parts). As for the toxic waste - they dont produce that much and a lot of that going away over the next few years. While it is true they do generation less power over their life time - its not like they just simply "stop" working either. Meaning they don't have to be replace in their 25 year life span - they can be used in other lower power use cases "used market" for smaller projects. Not going to lie - if we're talking anything that last 25+ years I am going to say you are silly when it comes to carbon foot print/waste - because thats almost 200x better than what we're currently doing in time scales of only a single day. The food you eat produces more waste and carbon than any single EV will produce over its life time.

All I have read about these sodium batteries is that they are safe... but not practical, BECAUSE THEY NEED A BIGGER VOLUME to be same efficient as lithium. And for cars, laptops and smartphones is NOT GOOD ! So, we have to wait...

@user-pq4by2rq9y

10 ай бұрын

It is good for ebikes.

@adr2t

10 ай бұрын

@@user-pq4by2rq9y Worst for ebikes really. Weight and size kind of matters for them. Will be good for home battery storage more than anything. Same for grid. EVs should be fine though. It can only improve from here on.