American Airlines Says "NO" to Airbus A350! What's Wrong??
American Airlines Says "NO" to Airbus A350! What's Wrong??
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00:00 Intro
00:34 The merger and reason for the order
02:53 Constant delays
04:01 Cancel order
07:17 Boeing 787
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American Airlines Says "NO" to Airbus A350! What's Wrong??
In 20 18, American Airlines announced it had spent 12 billion dollars, ordering 47 Boeing 7 8 7 Dreamliner aircraft. 22 dash 8 and 25 dash 9 aircraft variants are expected to be delivered to the airline for operations in 2020 and 2023 respectively. Along with this billion-dollar order, American Airlines canceled the contract to order the A3 50 Airbus aircraft. So what happened? What is the reason why the A3 50 was turned away by the airline? American Airlines Says "NO" to Airbus A350! What's Wrong??
So when did American Airlines order the Airbus plane? Back in 2005, two struggling airlines, US Airways and America West Airlines, completed merger procedures and became the sixth largest airline in the US. With its mainly A3 20 and A3 30 fleet at that time, US Airways chose the A3 50 as part of its future fleet. The A3 50 was introduced as Airbus's answer to the market demand for medium-capacity long-range wide-body aircraft. A3 50.
American Airlines Says "NO" to Airbus A350! What's Wrong??However, it faces the challenges of high fuel prices and increasing passenger expectations. Regardless, the plane has a completely new 21 Century design with a wider fuselage. promising to bring customers great experiences on the plane with more spacious space and enhanced privacy.
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Forgive me for not watching the vid, but I understand that its all about old news. I saw the chapter headings, and it it seems to make no mention of the latest rumours, which were all over the international press in February 2024, about the likelihood of AA reordering the A350. The history about their cancelled order is just that, history. Its the next 'chapter' which is most relevant, so to produce a vid about history rather than concentrate on today seems pointless to me......
Bad decision given the situation with Boeing now
@FLIGAVIA
25 күн бұрын
Yep
US Airways : "We survived with an Airbus on the Hudson River" AA : "Let's take Boeing !"
@CaliSteve169
25 күн бұрын
Air France 447 - we almost survived flying over the Atlantic, but since on an Airbus, the side controls aren't connected, we didn't.
@iceman9678
10 күн бұрын
@CaliSteve169 Touche!
I wonder how often they have kicked themself for canceling the A350 order, getting a inferior product given the product quality resulting from the lack of quality of production and QA at Boeing.
american airlines has been making shitty choices for 30 years and it just keeps going on !!!!
Why go for Boeing when you can get real airplanes?
Buying Boeing airplanes these days is a risky sport. They might be grounded for months - if not years. I believe there was lot of politics involved when they turned away from Airbus. That might cost America Airlines dearly.
@wadehiggins1114
24 күн бұрын
I agree
Did you not make a video about emirates the other day saying the same, and they just bought A350s? Why should we watch this video? Click bait!
@steveb7429
23 күн бұрын
Yes, this is biased clickbait in favor of Airbus
Typical american company, they'll purchase the inferior domestic product.
@JohnSmith-zi9or
24 күн бұрын
As a world traveler who flies business and first internationally, I **hate** A350. The lack of center overhead bins in first/business is a gigantic mistake. Perhaps Airbus needed to save weight for performance measures? Your highest paying customers now fight to be the first on, first to load their bags in the side bins. I'll take 787 anytime over A350.
@wadehiggins1114
24 күн бұрын
@JohnSmith-zi9or the Airbus A350 hates you too, american
@steveb7429
23 күн бұрын
Inferior? Germans seem to have a problem with having a “superiority” complex . The US, Britain, and Russia showed them just how wrong they were. And before you tell me, that airbus is a European conglomerate based in Toulouse, let’s be real here: the Germans are the main component behind Airbus. So take your little superior/inferior inference, and shove it.
@wadehiggins1114
23 күн бұрын
@@steveb7429 have someone shove it for you, I'm not inclined that way, steve!
@steveb7429
23 күн бұрын
Way to go entirely sidestepping my point. Trying to elicit a salacious comment , are we?
This secures Delta’s place as the best of the large US carriers. In addition to the fact that I can’t stand the pervasive arrogance among a large number of AA’s personnel.
@troll4898
25 күн бұрын
AA was never the best
Terrible decision... Delta has lots of Airbus included A350..
@FLIGAVIA
25 күн бұрын
yep, Delta is turning to Airbus!
@CaliSteve169
25 күн бұрын
Like the one on fire at Seattle Airport last week?
Good luck to all Boeing passengers. You’ll need it.
@MySkyranger
25 күн бұрын
Why have a modern new aircraft when you can have 1950s classics from Boeing.
@FLIGAVIA
25 күн бұрын
hope everyone loves that :))
@CaliSteve169
25 күн бұрын
Statistics disagrees with you.
@r12004rewy
25 күн бұрын
CaliSteve169. Really !
@CaliSteve169
25 күн бұрын
@@r12004rewy absolutely.
This incomprehensible text in a video with conflicting hypotheses and conclusions is something I've never seen before. Just follow the footsteps of Simple flying...
Why would US Air have ordered A350s anyway?? They didn't need that kind of range. Cheaper A330s would've sufficed.
B787 and A350 are excellent aircrafts. Airline pick which will be cost effective for them and how much less they can get if they purchase these aircrafts. Don’t forget, there is also the A330Neo which is also a very good aircraft. With B757 becoming very old, airlines will need to find their replacement. It is all about economics.
American Airlines should’ve taken possession of said Airbus a350s and sold them off to another airline. The delivery slots of those Airbus a350s are very valuable due to the long order backlog. American Airlines just surrendered their spot in line to a competitor airline company. And they went to the back of the line for the Boeing 787 Dreamliner.
I get you have fleet simplicity too when you don't get deliveries from Boeing 😂
Wasn’t there a perfect Delta A-350 spontaneously ignite into flames
AA -no standards -never disappointed -someone has got to buy Boeing so it may as well be AA.
There apparently is nothing wrong here. The American Airlines wide-body fleet plan was decided from the very beginning, to use the Boeing product for the long term. The 777 and the 787 airplanes in the fleet have typically been utilized really well on the long haul flights lately. The A350 on the other hand, is a superb aircraft, but was not needed to be kept after the merger took place with US Airways. The current all Boeing wide-body fleet American has, is what the airline was most comfortable with, despite some issues with the 787 and the 777. It was something that was studied upon with the company headquarters.
Why is something ‘Wrong’? Your title alone exposes your obvious bias.
Would you mind using the past tense to refer to events that happened in the past?
Nothing wrong. AA is completely loyal to Boeing as expected. The A350 is the world most superior airliner on every level. Delta has taken on Airbus A350s and will now gain ground on AA. Just watch. Boeing needs a reset with putting passenger safety before profits.
@mmm0404
24 күн бұрын
The 787 is the best selling widebody at the moment and has close to 800 more orders than the a350. Claims of the a350 superiority is just hot air and cannot be backed up.
@zeondeane2832
24 күн бұрын
@mmm0404 with the greatest respect the 787 has had several years head start, however any pilot or Aero Engineer will tell you the A350 is currently the best airliner on every level from comfort, distance, ecomomy etc. Boeing will eventually build a better plane but not today my friend.
@KlausErmecke
23 күн бұрын
@@mmm0404 If you have missed the info stream of the last ten years: People at Boeing production sites brake mandatory security rules permanently, furthermore mandatory documents are not produced, get mysteriously lost (door plug case) or are outright falsified. And: Whistleblowers are suppressed. In my opinion aircraft produced under such circumstances are not airworthy and need to be grounded. Aircraft grounded are never better than aircraft flying.
Excellent timing AA 😂
Airbus A350 is the best wide body aircraft in the world.
@FLIGAVIA
21 күн бұрын
agree!!
It’s unfortunate that Americans, in any part of the economy, still make choices based on nationality complexes at their own detriment. American could have absorbed those airbuses by operating them until they got out of the pandemic (that came unexpectedly.) Now more issues with Boeing may delay deliveries, Airbus is an all around international synthesis of where parts of each airplane comes from based optimized production line around the world; the engines actually are 2/3 optional American, Rolls-Royce being the foreign of the remainder 1/3 and those engines make quite a significant amount of the sticker price.
I'm just glad I'm not an AA fan and never tried them. I heard their flight crew are quite racist and the company doesn't give a damn if it's hurting them.
They must be in Boeing's pocket.
@FLIGAVIA
25 күн бұрын
thanks for your comment!
Such a bad decision
@earlradius9511
25 күн бұрын
fools will be fools
@angelitolagos3738
25 күн бұрын
Omg worst decision
@CaliSteve169
25 күн бұрын
Quiet! The KZread aviation experts are voicing their opinions.
@r12004rewy
25 күн бұрын
CaliSteve169....your not related to that other Boeing fan Nick O from the UK are you?
@EuropeanRailfanAlt
25 күн бұрын
@@r12004rewyNickly is from the UK?
In all honesty, AA should have stuck with the A350, which had proven to perform BETTER than the B787, but that's a moot point (passenger load is the biggest factor here). The reality of the decision making is that they were looking for a quick deal to get new aircraft in the fleet faster, and that's why Boeing was the logical choice because the planes were manufactured in the United States (before Airbus built their final assembly plant in Alabama). If they -really- wanted to maximize fleet utilization and maintain flexibility, they would have gone with the A330 NEO because of its robust design. Airbus was smart in making the A330 better than the previous generation, and delivering a product that gave it a competitive edge over the 787-8. The A350 seems to be a bit of an oddity because Airbus claimed to have built it to compete against the 787 when in fact it was built to compete against the 777 for seating capacity.
@mmm0404
24 күн бұрын
The 787 is best in its class , it doesn't compete directly with the a350 it competes with the a330neo The are over 1100 787s in service compared to 600 a350s . Claiming the a350 performs better is delusional and shows you are clueless. Many airlines operate both because they fit different roles. Operating 787s alone is more suitable for multi hub airlines like AA and United. United is doing just fine with the 787 .
@hawktb9
23 күн бұрын
@@mmm0404 You've taken my point out of context. I was referring to the AA decision to cancel the US Airways order for the A350 and how they were jockeying for deals for new planes, and the A350 would have made AA wait a lot longer for deliveries, which they didn't want. They wanted new planes and fast. So, scrapping the Airbus order gave them (and Boeing) more leeway to get the 787s into the fleet quicker. My feeling is that the 787s were put into the fleet to replace the 757s and older 767s (along with the older A321s from America West/US Airways), which is the streamlining they were seeking. The A350 would have been too big of a plane for that specific mission type whereas the 787 is "just right" as far as size and performance were concerned. It would be like TWA making an order for the A380 to replace their 747s before they were taken over by AA, and we know *that* order would have been scrapped largely because the A380 is just too darn big for AA's fleet plans.
America West was not "struggling ." HP saved USAir from extinction and took over AA, -- also facing chapter 7 -- not the the other way around.
There's no wrong,the wing is the thing,pilot and passengers can experienced,Air stream hugging can result in comfortable flight and fuel economy,Operators love it.
..... I thought it was AA that was in trouble. And I thought AWA was aquired by USAirways... And I thought that that USAirways decided to keep the AA brand....
If every aircraft that Boeing builds is so bad and if U.S. flag carriers are just dupes for not buying anything but Airbus aircraft, then why does British, French, German, Italian, Dutch, and virtually every European airline operate Boeing aircraft. If the truth be told, it would be a disaster for the airline industry if Boeing would as so many of you wish would just simply disappear. How long would it take Airbus or Boeing for that matter to increase their production capacity to fill all of the order demands of all the world’s airlines. Not to mention what would happen to the cost to airline passengers. And if there were to be no competition for Airbus especially if they were going full bore producing all of the world’s aircraft, what would happen to their, “PERFECT” quality control
United keep deferring their A350s. Initially ordered 35 1000s then converted to 45 900s.
The A350-1000 the most superior wide body on the market today and no doubt into the next decade, passengers love the experience and any airline that decides to cancel orders is making a huge mistake, the updated 777 with folding wing tips is like the 737MAX is a old design and just can't compete with Airbus.
@WorstAviationYouTuber
25 күн бұрын
Airbus's smartest pilot: *brings 13 year old in the cockpit and decides to let the kid fly the plane*
@johnchristmas7522
24 күн бұрын
NO, the reason Boeing aircraft are so risky to fly is because of that management.
I felt that United may cancel their 45 A350s order as well
@johnchristmas7522
24 күн бұрын
to buy more MAX'S!!!!!!!!1
@taylorham4life
24 күн бұрын
It will go to future A321XLRs. The 77W and 787 fleet are extremely young as well as more than capable of flying all missions.
@jerrythemouse28
24 күн бұрын
@@taylorham4life Is 787 more capable than A350?
@taylorham4life
24 күн бұрын
@jerrythemouse28 for United the 787 family fits them perfectly. Every Airline has different missions requiring different Aircraft. The 77W and 787s fit them. I won't be surprised if United and American get great deals for the 777-9 down the road. The A350 is a great aircraft and definitely has a large order list. Not a big deal that 2 Airlines aren't buying it.
A350 is a far superior product
@steveb7429
23 күн бұрын
Germans seem to have a perpetual “superiority” complex. They have learned the hard in the past the fallacy of their their theory. And before you sat Airbus is a European conglomerate, based in Toulouse , let’s be real: it’s German engineering that’s the primary component behind Airbus.
@FLIGAVIA
23 күн бұрын
thanks for your comment!
If you cannot pronounce the aircraft type correctly (a 3 50 instead of A350), you're most likely not an expert on this topic. I suggest you stop producing this kind of video's and leave the topic to the well informed.
@FLIGAVIA
21 күн бұрын
thanks for your feedback, we'll try to improve it
@klaasvanmanen8214
21 күн бұрын
@@FLIGAVIA Which would mean you stop posting AI-generated content at all. The topic of aircraft types is covered way better already by some real people who know what they're talking about. You're not one of them.
lol decision
amercian execs don't have a s88888e wish.
Americans.... :D :D
Are you making moony od this video 🤨
I prefer the Airbus.
@FLIGAVIA
22 күн бұрын
thanks for feedback! same here
@michaelauger8077
22 күн бұрын
@@FLIGAVIA I think they are built better, very quiet. 737 is noisy, wonder what they didn’t tighten.
what a boring video. so repetitive. Could have said what you needed to say in 2 minutes
@FLIGAVIA
25 күн бұрын
thanks for your feedback, we will try harder to bring you better videos
A350 is Complete Curse Livery On American Airlines I feel.
@FLIGAVIA
25 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
F you delta, American airline is the best!
@soundofprice
25 күн бұрын
Safety concerns will be the ultimate decider
@ronparrish6666
20 күн бұрын
You meant America West
Great, it’s a shit airplane especially when the B787 sent the first A350 back to drawing board for redesign to what it is today. This why the a ledge truth is coming out about airbus, paying Boeing employees to become whistleblowers ,speaking untruths . Many people are so gullible ,brainwashed and suffering amnesia. Please people go back and check the history on the A350. I suggest before you make videos on how great the a350 is , look at the history on it , only then you may see how superior is the mighty B787 .
@stephenoverthrow2463
25 күн бұрын
Talking out of your backside mate. Yes, the A350 had a redesign, that was down to operator's requirements.
@DemolitionboyXX
25 күн бұрын
Bye. Dont let the door hit ya when it blows out
@chiad25
25 күн бұрын
augustushenry8276 Let me guess ... you are a Maga supporter.
@xkr510
25 күн бұрын
The A350 is outstanding and very much more comfortable than the 787. Flown it many times (but my favourite is the A220). I avoid airlines that use Boeing now. This from a former Boeing fanboy that now has no trust in Boeing.
@artrandy
25 күн бұрын
The fool on the hill..........