It is really smart for the air force to make large missile for fourth gen and smaller missile for 5 the gen. It can take advantage of both systems strengths while covering their weaknesses when working together

@Cyrribrae

Жыл бұрын

Also, if you can deploy more unmanned drones for 6th gen, you're maybe working with more options for loadouts anyway.

@BravoCheesecake

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Good point.

@CB-vt3mx

Жыл бұрын

yup...stealth to find the targets, 4.5 gen fighters to carry missiles, 6th gen to exploit the chaos.

@ameritoast5174

Жыл бұрын

The newest version of the Eagle is basically a missile platform. Slap on several of these long range missiles and they can target whatever the newer stealth planes/drones find and take them out even before they get in range of the eagle.

@invertedv12powerhouse77

Жыл бұрын

​@@Cyrribrae drones flying around confusing enemy radars while the stealth jet is about to launch a barrage at you... terrifying

The sidewinders are pretty cool, they went from accidentally locking on to the sun in Vietnam to being able to take down frontal aspect targets (meaning coming in from the front or the enemy craft)

@gregoryschmitz2131

Жыл бұрын

Actually the sidewinder dates back to the 50s and was used by the Taiwanese against the Commies over the Straights in 1958.

@z3iro383

Жыл бұрын

One day we'll have a missile that actually can take out the sun

@graham1034

Жыл бұрын

@@z3iro383 Stupid sun, always glaring down at us like it's better or something.

@ViceCoin

Жыл бұрын

F22 needed 4 Sidewinder 9X shots to kill 1 non-manuvering balloon.

@cugamer8862

Жыл бұрын

@@z3iro383 A sentient thermostellar bomb perhaps.

The Aim9x and AMRAAM are already somewhat behind newer models like the the IRIS-T or Meteor. Not because US engineers are bad, but because the newer designs have newer technology, whereas the US had the technology first - but must now retrofit and upgrade.

@petersouthernboy6327

Жыл бұрын

Well, the latest Block variants of AIM-9X and AMRAAM are still very good missiles

@lilMungo

Жыл бұрын

Amraam is much better then meteor

@petersouthernboy6327

Жыл бұрын

@@lilMungo well, F-35 and F-22 would certainly be able to get much closer to an adversary than, let’s say, Eurofighter Typhoon

@johnsilver9338

Жыл бұрын

Yes, US did researched ramjet technology first. However they didn't use it for their next gen BVRAAM. If I'm not wrong, they wanted instantaneous acceleration, hence why AIM-260 uses dual pulse propulsion similar to PL-15. But they did use a solid rocket-ramjet hybrid propulsion for their their next gen AARGM-ER.

@leftycosta1899

Жыл бұрын

@@johnsilver9338 AARGM-ER is rocket no ramjet

The smaller missiles with medium range capabilities are very interesting idea. The fact that you can double or triple the capacity of the jet is absolutely mindblowing. Maybe there would be some kind of a hybrid design when one bay would have 2 AIM-260s and the other would have 4 or more smaller missiles.

@a.e.richardson218

25 күн бұрын

its kinda like how the r-60 replaced the k-13 and doubled capacity on many fighters

The Cuda missile looks small enough to be used in the Army's Avenger anti-air unit, which would be a huge improvement over the Stinger they currently carry.

@koekiejam18

Жыл бұрын

That is a good observation! Although i wouldnt be suprised if with the continuous development of systems like the Patriot or other CIWS’s it might disapear all together. The doctrine might no longer require it!

@dfjab

11 ай бұрын

might be better to just license starstreak or something similar; the stinger is old and that missile I recon is still too big for a manpad. Though it is hard to judge the dimensions from that photo

@Elthenar

10 ай бұрын

Hell, those Peregrine missiles and their small size could theoretically be equipped on attack helicopters, like the Apache. At that size, it could be carried into battle on Humvees.

@looseygoosey1349

9 ай бұрын

@@Elthenar jltvs* The humvees are being replaced

@truko5039

8 ай бұрын

U suppose to avenge, after the aircraft has already bomb the target and is egressing. You shoot it in the ass. Lol no but that’s pretty much all it can do to fix wings. It’s suppose to take out helos and other slow aircraft that patriot sams can’t see.

I think a lot of this is top-secret because we don’t want them to know how far we can reach out and touch them

The little dots on the frontal section of the peregrine look like attitude control motors (ACM), reminiscent of the patriot PAC-3, which would make sense since it is also a hit-to-kill missile. So peregrine might be a mini air launched patriot pac-3

@WinkelmanSM-3

Жыл бұрын

Where do you go to learn about military affairs?

@texasranger24

Жыл бұрын

You seem to be talking about the Cuda by Lockheed, and not the Peregrine.

@PW060284

Жыл бұрын

@@texasranger24 You're right. Cuda is the HTK missile. Though @12:46 shows Peregrine with ACMs too

@angusmatheson8906

Жыл бұрын

That's almost certainly simply a fragmentation sheath.

@dizzyizzie6354

Жыл бұрын

​@@WinkelmanSM-3 war thunder..

Ukrainian MiG-29s have poor RWR, which also gives them some issues with the R-37. I would imagine Iraqi losses to the AIM-54 were similar.

@jasonrhodes9726

Жыл бұрын

Its funny, they whine about hypersonic missiles, but the Phoenix goes mach 5+ and was designed in the late 1960s.

@jamesturner9651

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonrhodes9726 hypersonic missile is just a buzzword now and most people don’t really understand. To me it’s just more a scare tactic.

@Big_Red_Dork

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's like, we already have ballistic missiles that go at sub orbital speeds. A hypersonic cruise missile is still an impressive weapon but it doesn't fundamentally alter the state of play

@WinkelmanSM-3

Жыл бұрын

​@@Big_Red_Dork theres also hypersonic glide vehicles which make mid course interception much harder

@Big_Red_Dork

Жыл бұрын

@@WinkelmanSM-3 yea, but interception of MIRV's in ballistic missiles (with conventional or nuclear payloads) is basically useless as well.

With smaller missiles like these, we might eventually reach the stage when the sci-fi concept of a mirv-like AA missile is doable, with a long-range booster carrying several smaller missiles to the fight from afar, which separate and engage single or multiple targets as a swarm, significantly reducing evasion options.

@HahaHaha-gq8ft

5 ай бұрын

Raytheon and loockheed are developing a ramjet artillery shell that's tiny. A missile will always need length until they can figure out how to miniaturize a ramjet engine that's able to produce big boy thrust and distance . May not be possible .

@topiasr628

3 ай бұрын

That's the kind of thing we need to be thinking about and that their product managers should have their teams exploring. From there, such a platform could carry multiple AA missiles or a a mix off AA, AtG, and/or anti-radiation loadouts for example

Fascinating! I can see the F-35 or NGAD out front finding targets, legacy fighters firing off these long range missiles, the missiles getting targeting data en route from the F-35s or NGADs, and switching to in board guidance for the last leg.

@vaccuumrolls7243

Жыл бұрын

@Phillip Banes can’t get as high or fast as an F-15, severely limiting the missile’s kinetic energy and therefore range.

@VeeAreSixed1

Жыл бұрын

@@phillipbanes5484 All missiles are greatly affected by deployment altitude and speed of the aircraft launching them.

@vaccuumrolls7243

Жыл бұрын

@Phillip Banes missiles are VERY much affected by launch altitude and speed. Flying through thinner air, not having to fight gravity, and adding more initial speed to a usually constant DeltaV all can over triple the range of, say, an AIM-120, when launched stationary on the ground (Ex. SLAMRAAM ~30-50km) compared to a high altitude high speed launch (Ex. 120C-7 range of ~100km) despite being almost the exact same missile.

@wedgeantilles8575

Жыл бұрын

@Phillip Banes That statement hardly seems possible? How can the altitude and speed of the launching platform NOT be a deciding factor in the speed and range of the rocket? The faster your launching platform, the faster the thing you launch is, no? (As long as we are not talking about laser weapons with the speed of light being a constant.)

@wedgeantilles8575

Жыл бұрын

@Phillip Banes I don't get it. But doesn't matter, since you do not seem to be inclined to point out our supposed mistakes. Maybe we are not getting why physical principials do not apply in this situation, but since you do not enlighten us, I stay with physical principals.

Awesome video. Love seeing the future weapon systems that are being fielded. Keep it up.

Good video, but i have just one small correction: the F-35 actually cant carry the Aim-9 internally, only the 120's. The Aim-9 can only be carried on the outboard wing stations. What Lockheed is developing is the so called "Sidekick" system, allowing the F-35A and C to go from carrying 4 AMRAAMS internally, to 6.

The F-35's also has a sidekick rack that extends its internal missile count to six that wasn't mentioned in this video.

@CMDR_Birb

Жыл бұрын

It was

Great video, as always. But just one correction: currently the F-35 can carry 4 AIM-120 internally, which will be increased to 6 in the block 4 upgrade. Moreover, the AIM-9s can only be carried externally by the F-35 (at least for the moment, maybe in a future version of the missile it will be able to be carried internally)

You really deserve these nomination's for your out standing work in a aviation. Fingers crossed for you and good luck with everything you do in the future.

The peregrine and CUDA missiles seem very likely as the amraam successors, with the other long range missiles being likely more for initial engagements or area denial

@user-vt2cr8qd1b

Жыл бұрын

I think a cool new possible armament option for fighters would be carrying the amraam sized long range missiles while also carrying smaller than amraam sized medium range missiles with similar to amraam capability. Having a lot more missiles can be a game changer in BVR since as long as neither side wanders into the MAR, a lot of missiles can lobbed with none hitting.

@saltyfloridaman7163

Жыл бұрын

CUDA missiles are a dogfight missile that stands for cylindrically fired depleted uranium dart armament. Basically it explodes and sends small depleted uranium darts 360 degrees against enemy aircraft. They're designed to be stored internally with up to 12 taking up half of one Aim 120 rail, which in block 4 can carry 6. Standard loadout will be 4 AIM 260s and 4 CUDAs after block 4

Alex, it sounds like the DOD is getting smart and finally giving the F35 some weapons to actually do its job. Very intelligent and cheaper than building a bigger weapons bay.

Thank you Alex. Very interesting and well done. I have been away from military aviation (Navy) since 1990. So, to see up to date information like this is something I can watch all day long. Thank you again and be safe.

This was the best episode of Sandboxx in the last year.

I’ll have to watch again… I thought you said 6 but listed 5. Multitasking. I knew of 3 of them great to know there are more. Great job as always.

Hi Alex! Once again another super interesting and well-written video. I’ve been looking forward to something on the LRAAM! I’d love to see a full video on the upcoming F-35 upgrades and the upgrades they are preparing for if you can! And maybe some elaboration on the Lightning’s enhanced dogfighting capabilities that have been reported in more recent years?

@markoconnell804

Жыл бұрын

He already put out a video on the new upgrades to the F-35 block 4 with tech enhancement for block 4.

I've watched a few of your videos and found all to be factual and informative. As a result, I just subscribed. Please continue doing what you're doing.

I didn't think F-35 could carry Sidewinder internally.

Putin pulling out his binoculars to watch the missile has me cracking up xD

The AIM -260 is gonna be crucial for us

@petersouthernboy6327

Жыл бұрын

It's being fielded right now - and its a beast

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

AIM 260 currently will not fit in/on the F35s and F18s and F16s. The F22 can carry em on the wings but not inside the fighter.

@kameronjones7139

Жыл бұрын

​​@@nexpro6118 literally no one has said that

You cracked me up with your pronunciation of the Peregrine missile the first few times you talked about it. I am glad to “hear” that you got it correct on the last try. But keep of the good work. I have always enjoyed your research into the new AirPower tech that is coming out in the near future.

Great episode, so much information I had to watch it twice. May again a third. Keep up the great work!!!

Not only was Desert Storm over 2 decades ago, it was over 3 decades ago. BTW, how long before they deploy long-range Air-to-Air Missiles on cargo aircraft in a program called "Rapid Fraggin'"?

@Cyrribrae

Жыл бұрын

Rapid Dragon?

@j.benjamin3782

Жыл бұрын

@@Cyrribrae Rapid Dragon is an air-to-surface concept.

@Rob_F8F

Жыл бұрын

Your humor may be a little too subtle. But, Bravo! I applaud you!

The Sidewinder began development in the late 40s - it went into service in 1956, but it's history goes back almost another decade. One of it's first victories was when an early F-100 accidentally launched one at a hard-to-miss B-52. Ouch.

@LeonAust

7 ай бұрын

Totally different weapons between a 1960s sidewinder and 2020 missiles

Peregrine sounds like hit-to-kill akin to Cuda. It's all about the "rocket equation." With modern miniaturized electronics, no warhead means the missile is practically all rocket motor. It makes a much bigger difference than just cutting out the part of the missile that's filled with the HE and fragmentation or continuous rod casing because there's no longer that dead weight that needs to be accelerated so the missile just has to accelerate the fuel it's going to need for the rest of the flight plus the electronics of the guidance package.

@taylorc2542

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the AMRAAM has doubled it's range by shrinking the battery and electronics. The first AMRAAM was only 1/3 rocket motor, now it's about half.

I’ve been waiting for you to make this video, thanks Alex! 🍻

Alex! I love your videos. Please keep up the good work.

I love the channel. Thanks for making these videos!

You can put Sidewinder on just about anything that flies. It doesn’t require a separate onboard FCS (Fire Control System) because it’s built into the missile itself.

Thank you for covering this topic, I specifically requested it, especially regarding the peregrine, the best air to air missile in my opinion

Great video, but one small correction: missiles don't run low on fuel by the time they get close to their target. Any non-ramjet missile will burn through its fuel in seconds. It will speed up and climb to a high altitude using the trust from the engine and when it runs out of fuel it will 'coast' to its target using that speed and altitude to get where it needs to go. Because a regular rocket engine burns through all its fuel in one quick go a missile that uses this type of propulsion will have a finite amount of energy. This is why you can evade such a missile by making it turn as this will bleed energy quickly. Ramjets or dual pulse missiles are much harder to evade because they can use their engine to keep their energy high so they can still maneuver in the terminal phase

Great information as always Alex !

Alex, your videos and commentary are the best on the web for sure, thank you for such exceptional work. Have our military planners ever considered that we may be spending way too much on these systems and that our enemies could be focusing on cheaper and more numerous drone and other systems that could nullify these costly planes and missiles? Is there something we should focus more on? It seems like we are just reacting to what our enemies create.

@WinkelmanSM-3

Жыл бұрын

Theres always an offense defense contest and everyone is always reacting, the US is also working on cheap ways to counter cheap drones with things like electronic warfare.

@albertofernandez4100

Жыл бұрын

@@WinkelmanSM-3 m no k ko

@mariatorres5563

Жыл бұрын

I also be thinking about that. Irán has swarms of drones that will be very costly for the US if they try to kill them, just imagine the swarms going in on a aircraft carrier & the destruyers fireing off lots of misiles That each one costs a million or close to that, thats going to be real costly....🤣🤣🤣

@user-f5xt2op9t

Жыл бұрын

@@mariatorres5563 The Iranian drones currently in production have proven to be not very "smart" hence the low cost, and therefore would be used more as a saturation attack rather than acting as a "swarm". Drones may even be too small of a target for a missile lock; I believe the counter for a drone saturation attack would be electronic warfare (potentially dropping them right out of the sky) and the CWIZ and deck guns as a last line of defense. Keep in mind that dumb drones would need to be guided all the way in, so the enemy would have to have a radar lock on the US fleet. Drones would also need to pass the defenses of at least 4 other ships before getting close to a carrier. Overall, the chances of a US carrier being in the range of a drone saturation attack is extremely unlikely outside of very specific scenarios like the straight of Hormuz or South China Sea.

@koekiejam18

Жыл бұрын

Its a really simple answer, cheap drones wont fly that fast and will easily be taken out using CIWS. Some western CIWS’s have no difficulty shooting down mortar shells. (Mortar shells are very cheap hence why CIWS has been employed for this.)

You get extra points for the abundance and variety of footage you present.

Great topic Alex, thanks mate.

the Sidewinder lineage goes back to at least 1946, which is roughly when the tech development/testing started. But the AIM-9X is still one of the best missiles available today.

@LeonAust

7 ай бұрын

No linage just in name

@SoloRenegade

7 ай бұрын

@@LeonAustwrong. the seeker head was developed in 1946, and the missiles was designed shortly after. been slowly upgraded ever since. feel free to try to disprove that.

@LeonAust

7 ай бұрын

easy ...not one part of the AIM-9A or 9B resides in a AIM-9X totally new design. If that's ok by a bullshit token linage then I would call it a guided 5 inch Zuni rocket because that's where they got the main body rocket from to develop the original Sidewinder 1. ..........read its history@@SoloRenegade

The LRAAM with a modular design looks like it has potential to replace all misses in theory. A short range middle would be set up (front to back) as seeker/computer/guidance pod, then stack as many fuel pods as you need, then finish up with the fin/nozzle/datalink pod in the rear. You may need the front fin pod in there somewhere but you get the idea. If you want longer ranges, stack more fuel pods. At that point, the range would be dictated by the effective range of the seeker or datalink, but not fuel. Sort of a “select-a-size”… like my paper towels.

Correction: the F-35 can currently carry 4 AMRAAM’s. With the Block 4 upgrade, it will be able to carry 6 AMRAAM’s or 12 Peregrine missiles just like the F-22 can

Calling modern AIM120 the same weapon than the AIM120 used in desert storm (technically, the no fly zone post desert storm) is like saying that the AIM9B is the same sidewinder than the AIM9X.

These missiles have been in development for sometime, for a decade on some cases. The Air Force has been waiting for adversaries to catch up to justify the expenditure; these systems just don't pop-up out of thin air...

The Peregrine Missile might be one of the most important developments for 5th Gen Fighters as being able increase combat endurance while in full stealth loadout. The Biggest Handicap of the 5th Gen fighters is that they carry much smaller loadouts of AA missiles, meaning that the 4th gen fighters now mainly have an endurance advantage over the 5th gens in terms of payload carried, so if the 5th gen runs out of missiles before they run out of targets they need to run, since it is no longer a fight in their advantage, even with stealth is not a wise fight to take if the enemy still outnumbers you. Payloads that match those 4th gens payload would help make the 5th gen fighters much deadlier as at the end of the day, the enemy might defeat your missile and you will need to fire again, which means you need to expend more of your valuable few missile, the biggest thing is that you might be engaging an enemy flight and then another flight comes in to hunt you down, you might see them but with little ammo they can just run you off, the biggest advantage is carrying more missile internally for the 5th gens, and for the 4th gens getting that range advantage is the best way to stay alive, obviously if you can have more and longer range for a 5th gen fighter it makes it the most deadly in the airspace, but if you have to settle for one of them, depending on the enemy you think you are going to fight you will have to pick one of those two. In a fight against China I feel like a higher total payload is more effective for the 5th Gen platforms, while in a fight against Russia I would bet on range as the Russian Air Force is not really capable of operating in the numbers required to be a threat, while the Chinese have a very large Air Force it is mostly made up of 4th gen fighters and a very small fleet of 5th gens like the J-20 with only handful of squadrons operating the Fighter, one of which is always stationed around Beijing to protect the Capital's Airspace

@DefaultProphet

Жыл бұрын

Russian/Chinese extended range doesn’t matter when it can’t use it at those ranges because it can’t detect F-35/F-22 at those ranges

@jbc-3975

11 ай бұрын

might want to wait for there to be actual 'developments' rather that just Raytheon's announcement of its new wonder weapon that's magically smaller, stealthier, faster, cheaper and farther flying that everything else .. alchemy has always been a great idea as well - same with batteries that re-charge in seconds and mini-fusion reactors that magically power cities safely, cleanly and cheaply .. The problem is always in proof of concept. Thinking there's a reason why we've heard NOTHING from Raytheow since the 2019 announcement of the Peregrine's magical properties. Not a single announcement or article detailing a prototype let alone anything confirming that this thing might be real ..

@LeonAust

7 ай бұрын

5th gen can carry the same as fourth gen if stealth is slightly negated.

the Peregrine is my favorite of these too!

Wow, quite the impressive set of new options coming out, especially to arm both 4th and 5th gen fighters in the US fleet. Those smaller and long-range options would be a huge boost for the F-35.

The thing I am curious about is wouldn't these missiles and redfor's alternatives, not be as effective because against other stealth fighters you aren't seeing anything on radar until you are fairly close?

@Rob_F8F

Жыл бұрын

You have a point. That said, the US military has embraced the concept of networked warfare. For example, a F-35 can passively acquire a flight of hostile stealth fighters, communicate their bearing, range, and altitude to F-15 missile trucks over a hundred miles away. Then those F15s can launch the new missiles with the targeting information from the F-35. Once close enough, the missiles can activate their own sensors to terminal attack phase targeting.

@BoraHorzaGobuchul

Жыл бұрын

This is also why these smaller missiles look very promising. In a stealth-on-stealth fight, the ranges will be usually much shorter, so having a larger number of smaller missiles, even if they are not as long-ranged, will be the way to go. At the same time, older-generation planes could sit back and deploy longer-ranged weapons initially guided by datalink from AWACS or the same forward-operating stealth planes.

Long range missiles on F-15EX with NGAD painting targets up front is what they’re planning, from what I understand.

Alex my brother i'am bingeing on your vids. Keep them coming & thank you so much

Dad and I are so impressed with your videos! Keep up the great work!

Everybody gangsta till Raytheon comes out with their OpenGL missile

People paying attention to the block 4 f35, especially the A model, know how nuts the plane is beginning to turn. The A model is getting a new adaptive engine, brand new tech that has already been flying. The block 4s computerization package is also flying. The A as far as i know still hasnt selected wether the adaptive engine will be GE's model or P&W, and its based off the f135

@ameritoast5174

Жыл бұрын

Ya that is the question. I think the problem with the GE engine is that they dont have one for the B model. So the A and C would have different engines than the B. Frankly I think they should go with the adaptive engines. One of the criticisms of the F-35 from teh navy was its range. I think they said the adaptive engines can get them %15 more range of something like that. I think the Adaptive Engines provide too many benefits to not use it but it always comes down to cost. An article I read a few months back said they would have to slow production of the F-35s to be able to start getting the GE engines for them. So if they are okay with a slower production rate it might be better. The p&w design is an upgrade to the already existing engine. So there are cost saving measures there. I do think they will go with this option. It would save money and make upgrading the F-35s we and are allies already have easier. One thing I am wondering is they could go with the GE adaptive engines if they plan on using them for the new NGAD planes. Having all their fighters using the same engine(excluding the B) could save money in the end and make logistics easier.

@angelicaflanagan3483

Жыл бұрын

I don't know 100% but I'm pretty sure Canada just order 88 and they're getting the most advanced version of the F-35

@angelicaflanagan3483

Жыл бұрын

@AmeriToast that's the only problem I have with Canada getting the F-35 is the range . We are the second biggest country in the world with a very small population under 40 million people. For American can understand you could go for like the size of Texas and not one person lives there ,not one Airfield.

@invertedv12powerhouse77

Жыл бұрын

@@ameritoast5174 the C model has a variant designed with materials for naval operation and corrosion

@invertedv12powerhouse77

Жыл бұрын

@@angelicaflanagan3483 we are getting the block 4.

Love your content, thanks for all your vids.

Can u please do chapters. Makes videos much easier to watch your favourite bits a second time. Great video.

How old is the Sidewinder? My Dad was an electrical engineer, he worked with a guy who was on the development team for the first generation version. He described it as using the tiniest little vacuum tubes you ever saw in its electronics.

@bighands69

Жыл бұрын

The name is old but the actual missile has had several versions. If they changed the name on each new variant people would not be complaining.

@trolleriffic

7 ай бұрын

Development of the Sidewinder began in 1946 and the missile performed its first intercept in 1953 and entered service in 1956. Given that the transistor had only been invented in 1947, I think your dad was correct in identifying that it used tiny vacuum tubes.

Stealth cross section shape missiles could have greater fuel volume and range, as speed is less important if stealth

Thanks Alex, for keeping us up to date. I hate war, but I like to believe that, if my country has to go get the bad guys, we can kick ass like our enemies never dreamed of. Happy Birthday.

Hi Alex, have you done a piece dedicated to the new adaptive cycle engines and what exactly they are? I would be interested in learning more about them.

Making smaller missiles for stealth fighters is huge. I was always left wondering how just four was enough for the F-35 even with stealth

@kdrapertrucker

Жыл бұрын

Actually only the F-35C will depend on stealth since it is the only current low observable aircraft the Navy has. The Air Force having several stealthy options elected to make their version less stealthy, and the V/STOL B model, the least stealthy of the family since it is designed for supporting troops.

@Utubesuperstar

Жыл бұрын

The 35 is meant to spot for gen 4 missile trucks like the f18 and 15 while also using its weapons

@ChucksSEADnDEAD

Жыл бұрын

Non-stealth aircraft have to fire missiles at each other to force a defensive posture. Without the need to fire spoiler shots, 4 missiles in a stealth aircraft is better than 6-8 on a 4th gen.

@Utubesuperstar

Жыл бұрын

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD true even more so when you consider the 35 can guide in missiles from other aircraft Sam’s ships etc that fire from a safe distance which keeps them defensive while not compromising the attackers stealth or using their ammo, it’s quite brilliant and honestly completely changes the game again

@looseygoosey1349

9 ай бұрын

Thats where Laser weapons come into play. but 12 missiles on top of laser weapons on top of a gun. Overkill. Not to mention that in the future the F-35 and NGAD will fly with drone wingmen that will have thier own missiles. It will get ugly.

What happened to the SARH AIM-7 Sparrow? Aren’t they still using these, albeit phasing out?

@Just_A_Random_Desk

Жыл бұрын

they're probably retired now, fox-1's aren't useful anymore

@Rob_F8F

Жыл бұрын

Using up existing stock No new development on the AIM-7 Sparrow. The Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile (ESSM) is derived from the AIM-7, but decades of branched development means that it is a separate and different missile.

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

AIM 7 went away at sometime in the late 80s to early 90s.

@WhenindoubtFox-3

Жыл бұрын

Who tf uses SARH’s today for air to air lmfao

Alex!!! " used in Desert Storm two decades ago" That was THREE decades ago my guy!

Lotsa good info, thanks !

With advances in IRST and Data Link, along with Lock On After Launch technology, I wonder how effective a BVR IR missile might be. A missile launched while in TWS, using Data Link to get the missile within pitbull, and that doesn't give off emissions for the enemy's RWR, could be seriously dangerous. The enemy wouldn't know it was launched, and wouldn't know they're being targeted, even in pitbull.

@jasonklein4376

Жыл бұрын

It’s likely that future missiles will have both ir and radar capability to do exactly that. No need for an amraam and sidewinder when one missile can do both jobs.

@Whiskey11Gaming

Жыл бұрын

​@@jasonklein4376 except that missiles like that are not very well optimized for either engagement and are this pretty average overall. That's why the AIM120D is not replacing the AIM9X for close in. It's not as maneuverable due to weight and length.

@LondonSteveLee

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, I hope Europe come up with an IR version of METEOR.

@koekiejam18

Жыл бұрын

Well stealth does sorta nullify the need for this. Getting a warning that an AIM-120C is coming for you when it is 40 miles away is very different compared to getting the warning when it is 15 miles away. Especially utilising the TWS on something like the f-16, you will see the lock from the plane but won’t get a missile warning until the missile turns on its own seeker. (Usually ca 4 miles away) at which point it becomes impossible to outmanouver the missile and almost impossible to jam its guidance...

I strongly wonder what datalink will do with these newer missiles - all this talk of semi-active guidance means handoff from one jet to another would be very doable, perhaps with a stealth jet staying dark with no launch signature being able to guide in a missile from another fighter further out. Obviously, this is tech that the NGAD seeks to replicate with drones, but I still wonder what the implications could be when combining the greater capability of human pilots.

@Whiskey11Gaming

Жыл бұрын

It's probably more likely the other way around. Stealth is important enough you wouldn't want to have a radar on to guide a missile and missile kinematics are generally worse at range. You'd want a fighter further away doing the guiding for a fighter much closer and stealthy. That way the missile is unexpected and can come from a different attack axis than the tracking aircraft.

@koekiejam18

Жыл бұрын

@@Whiskey11Gaming this concept already exists, it is called AEW&Cs (or AEWAC’s) And if you are launching missiles at close range, an IR missile might just do the trick too which won’t require radar.

its not just our missiles, most of our airforce altogether is from the desert storm era . the f15 and f16 c and e models are from the 90s thats the bulk of our fighters and the E2 c5 and others are as well. the f22 is only in small numbers and the f35 barely ever stays in the air constantly being grounded for various problems

Well done, Alex!

wasn't the aim 260 announced as 2 stage? and i think its coming out this year

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

The F15 is the only fighter that can carry and use the AIM 260 because of its size. The F22 can technically carry em but only under the wings and ONLY on the most inner pylon closest to the fuselage. Again, because of size and weight. Using F22s with the AIM 260 kinda defeats the purpose of using the F22.

@lilMungo

Жыл бұрын

​@@nexpro6118 f16 and f22 and f15 can carry it lol its only 8% bigger than aim120

@trumptookthevaccine1679

Жыл бұрын

@@nexpro6118 what?

@nexpro6118

Жыл бұрын

@@lilMungo .....my god.....I don't care if its only 2% bigger. The pylons themselves are not designed to carry/attach a missile and or bombs that are any larger than whats currently used. and the software and hardware systems would need to be upgraded or changed and also wouldn't be able to carry multiple missiles (260) even when you change all of this.....yes, by size and weight alone, those fingers can in theory support to carry the size and weight but not in practical use.....I know....research is hard for some people to do....

@lilMungo

Жыл бұрын

@@nexpro6118 if a f16 can carry a 2000lb bomb on its inner pylons I'm sure f22 and f35 wouldn't have a problem carrying a 400lb missles

Consider doing the new F-15 EX. A notional design at this point, as are these missiles. Much larger wing. Many hardpoints. Great lifting capacity. Either a smart bomber, or a netcentric missile barge to add weight behind the stealth jets. And, naturally, and pure blood F-15.

One point that keeps coming up, planning and effective use of the tools are the most effective tactics. But it doesn’t hurt to have the best tools

Possibly the best channel on the subject

The music was a really nice touch in the opening, I approve

@mugbeer9440

Жыл бұрын

i love neffex

@sdericmonty

Жыл бұрын

Got me all jacked up!

@alfredchurchill2328

Жыл бұрын

Rage against the machine, right?

I wonder if the AIM-9 will get an upgrade with more thrust vectoring and maybe some features to make it a...*Growling* sidewinder =P The peregrine is really intriguing. How is Raytheon managing to make it that tiny? An F-22 armed with 12 of those things sounds like an absolutely terrifying thing.

@trolleriffic

7 ай бұрын

That kind of performance jump in such a small platform, along with the fact that it's described as having a "new, high performance propulsion system" makes me suspect it's an air-breather. Some kind of small rocket-ramjet similar to that used by the Meteor missile. The mockup shown so far doesn't appear to have any features that would indicate ramjet operation such as visible (if covered) intakes, but the program hasn't been shown off yet so Raytheon may simply be avoiding telling the rest of the world how they did it. Ramjet propulsion has the advantage of being able to operate longer, which improves terminal kinematics enormously and also greatly increases range. The efficiency of a jet or rocket engine can be given by its specific impulse (ISP) which is measured in seconds and represents the total impulse available from a given mass of propellant or fuel. Impulse is force x time so a motor that produced 10,000 lbs thrust for 20s would have a total impulse of 200,000 lbs-s, and if it used 800 lbs of propellant in the process, its specific impulse would be 250s which is fairly typical for a low-smoke solid propellant motor. By using a rocket-ramjet design, the rocket accelerates the missile to a speed where the ramjet can ignite and because ramjets get oxygen to burn their fuel from the air, they can deliver much more impulse than a rocket which has to carry both fuel and an oxidiser. The Meteor's ramjet engine has a specific impulse 3x higher than an equivalent rocket motor so it gets a lot more out of a given mass and volume of fuel, which is why it seems the obvious choice to use a similar system for Peregrine.

The sidewinder shot we see several times, clearly aimed at something behind the jet,,,,, damn that thing do a 180 in no time flat. 😎

Very good program I really learned a lot. Thanks!

AIM-260 has a larger diamiter than that of the AIM-130 alowing it to carry more propelant in its rocket motor. I beleve the Parigrine does away with a warhead and uses its kinetic energy to smash targets.

@Ilyak1986

Жыл бұрын

Then it needs that much better maneuverability. Imagine trying to smack a thrust-vectoring Su-57 by ramming the missile directly into it rather than just getting a proximity fuse kill.

@trumptookthevaccine1679

Жыл бұрын

@@Ilyak1986 I don’t think anyone cares about the 57 at this point 😅

@Ilyak1986

Жыл бұрын

@@trumptookthevaccine1679 yeahhhhh with all the sanctions on Russia, that jet is one step above "vaporware" at this point. Still, same logic may apply to the J-20 and J-31 in China?

@trumptookthevaccine1679

Жыл бұрын

@@Ilyak1986 nope. J-20 are a more of a threat and China can produce more than a few for air shows 😅 It’s kind of sad if anyone really thinks Russia can do anything these days besides cyber crime and sit on unstable nukes 😂

@trolleriffic

7 ай бұрын

Peregrine seems to use a blast fragmentation warhead. My guess is that it achieves such remarkable range and performance despite its small size by using an air-breathing engine - some sort of rocket-ramjet similar to Meteor. None of the mockup images seem to show anything like air intakes but they might not be the actual design to keep sensitive details under wrap.

Lmao do NOT say that what we use today is similar to what we used in desert storm. AIM-9Ls and and AIM-7Ms are NOT AIM-9Xs and AIM-120Ds

@cattledog901

Жыл бұрын

Do you understand the definition of similar you clown? Its "Resembling without being identical". So yes the AIM-9Xand AIM-120 are similar to the AIM-9L and AIM-7 because they were developed from them. They are upgraded versions of old systems so fall under the defintion fine. Try to know what you are talking about before trying to be a smartass.

@GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze

Жыл бұрын

@@cattledog901 What in any way besides appearance are the missiles similar. Seriously what a stupid fucking comment for being so arrogant. An AIM-120D has 4 times the effective range of the 7M, with every single system inside the shell of the missile being different, and being a Fox-3 not a Fox-1. And the AIM-9X has double the range of the 9L with way more flare resistance and G load, Thrust vectoring motors, and can be integrated with modern datalink systems. Seriously everything you just said is thoughtless, and you want to call me a clown? What point AT ALL would there be in saying that we field the same missile because it exists in a similar looking shell, when NOTHING else about the missile is remotely similar. They are not the same fucking missiles and the fact that you are trying to argue that is funny to me. It’s such a pointless argument. Compare based on capability not looks idiot. Arguing your point doesn’t have a purpose

One of your best videos! Super cool information! Thank You!

When you say, “Russia claims…”, I take it as propaganda.

@AllTradesGeorge

Жыл бұрын

It also begs the question, just how many of them has Russia actually managed to produce? Are they like the Su-57, which is a major threat on paper and basically a non-factor in reality, as the number of operational 57s is in single-digit numbers? The T-14, which is only slightly better in terms of actual operational units? How good your weapon is only helps if you have them in sufficient quantities to actually use them...

@ferrous3262

Жыл бұрын

russia claims the earth is round is that propaganda

@peterlangan1181

11 ай бұрын

That is American brainwashing at its best. The Russian long range missiles are taking down targets over record distances. Fact! So they are real, in production and they work. What does the US have? We are developing…..That phrase means the US is behind. In fact in all missile technology the U.S. is well behind. So your comment could be better levelled at America. Fact is the U.S. has lost the arms race. Tsirkon has made the US carrier fleets obsolete at a stroke. Tiny Russian corvettes could take out far larger opponents, even carriers in safety, outside of the air cover radius. I mention that just to make you think a bit. Russia also has a layered air defence, the U.S. has ……Patriot ….a not very good system! It’s stand alone too. This idea that the US is just naturally way ahead with all tech is dangerous. Those days are long gone. You have been overtaken because the MICC got fat, corrupt and very lazy.

is it fair to call the f35 a 5.5 gen? i mean no other gen of plane can do what it does? not even an f22

@bonedoc4556

Жыл бұрын

I think you'd have a good argument. I guess we won't know how to Guage it until 6th gen comes out.

@marrqi7wini54

Жыл бұрын

​@@bonedoc4556 I do think this is a valid question. On one hand we don't exactly know what difference a gen 5 and gen 6 would have until they're put into service. On the other hand the lightning 2 does have capabilites that other jets don't currently have. I'd say if some of the F-35s aren't 5.5 gen now, they can be in the future. Maybe a new future variant could be considered 6th gen as well. But who knows.

@ferrous3262

Жыл бұрын

f-35 cant even supercruise

@bonedoc4556

Жыл бұрын

@@ferrous3262 so what, supercruise is a requirement for 5th gen now? If so, what would you call the B2 and B21?

@trolleriffic

7 ай бұрын

@@ferrous3262 Turns out that even the capability for supersonic flight is hardly ever needed in combat. During the Gulf War, the maximum speed attained by any US fighter was just mach 1.04 and even that was only for a short duration.

This was fantastic! Thank you!

My guess on the Peregrine is a pulse doppler, millimeter wave (to defeat "notching") and IR seekers.

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“What basically amounts to the same load out as Desert Storm” basically is doing so much heavy lifting you’ve broken its back. Especially since the AIM-120 didn’t come out till a year after the war let alone new variants.

Keep making these and firepower. This is good stuff.

Great video I had no idea about these missiles besides the AIM-260

This is the best video about air superiority that I have seen in 5yr ! The narrator is correct, it is not the plane that gets a kill, it's the missle ! But to be frank, I have been quite worried about the American air defence because of a lack of a good Long range missle I have in fact been talking to pilots about this problem ! But I must keep this info to myself ! DML

Alex, another superb piece of information and a comforting presentation! Thanks Go USA

I’m surprised we haven’t made smart chaff type countermeasures that can track and knock out missiles inbound to our aircraft and ground based equipment

Biggest problem with ramjet missiles is maintenance and storage, since it must be liquid fueled and cannot be treated like a "wooden" round.

The F-35 cannot carry sidewinders internally, it carrys 4 amraams internally

I think every missile needs to have some kind of ram jet ability where they could make a small missile that used air pressure to combust a small amount of fuel for fuel mileage.

The half sized amraam might be a good candidate for the f35 as it would eliminate any need for the external sidewinder.

At 10 minutes the engine and spinning propeller of the disintegrating target is wonderful. 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 Who was the photographer ? 😊😊

Love it, I have been waiting for a video like this. I would also love to hear about the capabilities development in the surface-to-air category.

Alex,your work is top notch.

Hi Alex. I really enjoy your channel mate 😉

Ngad's drone needs big massive wings like the u2 for high altitude loitering so we can launch them way ahead of time, maybe with a smaller diesel propeller engine at front that once used up or no longer needed can detach ( and hopefully not drop onto a house below !!) the big wings will also detach when ready to penetrate into enemy air area using the jet engine

@user-by6ul7di4b

7 ай бұрын

I have one concern for the allies that I wont put down on writing here, we may already have lost the future battle.

Don't shit on the Sidewinder! That family has come a long way.