The longest "name" so far is: Super Hyper Ultra Ultimate Deluxe Perfect Amazing Shining God 東方不敗 Master Ginga Victory Strong Cute Beautiful Galaxy Baby 無限 無敵 無双 Nenechi

@Mari-Schimmer

6 ай бұрын

But that's not EN

@Genburthing

6 ай бұрын

@@Mari-Schimmeri mean, he didnt specify what section of Hololive

@Genburthing

6 ай бұрын

@@Mari-Schimmerand the longest of HoloEN is Nerissa, here is a comparison between her and Ina Nerissa Ravencroft Ninomae’s Ina’nis

@Genburthing

6 ай бұрын

@@Mari-Schimmerand the longest of HoloEN is Nerissa, here is a comparison with Ina Nerissa Ravencroft= 17 letters Ninomae’s Ina’nis= 13 letters

@Mari-Schimmer

6 ай бұрын

​@@Genburthing0:11 Ame says "in HoloEn" Also, we are talking about syllables here, not letters

We’re so used to Ame, Ina, calli, bae, all shorter than their actual names

@lightning116

6 ай бұрын

Biboo. Rissa.

@Nick_RCC

6 ай бұрын

then there's goobidiba

@tl1326

6 ай бұрын

​@@Nick_RCCgwambus

@camil3545

6 ай бұрын

Wawa

@polaroideternalhaven8671

6 ай бұрын

Well Baelz is still one syllable right?

I don't about other cultures, but in Australia, the shorter the (nick)name, the more we like you. Bae, Ame, Moco, and so on.

@r3b0x91

6 ай бұрын

Moco feels so weird without the -chan attached to it. Most holomems call her Mococo in full

@Xodreev

6 ай бұрын

Y'all ever like each other enough to just call anyone by the first letter of their name?

@ManusiaKagakRusuh

6 ай бұрын

Since when we shorten Fuwawa and/or Mococo ? ... Did I missed something ? ...

@pikapuffin368

6 ай бұрын

a

@LeHarmacist

6 ай бұрын

ngl moco just sounds like another aussie slang just like arvo

Number of syllables for each EN member (if I'm counting right): 7: Ina, Kiara 6: Calli, Ame, Shiori, Nerissa, Fuwawa, Mococo 5: Sana, Mumei, Bijou 4: Fauna, Kronii 3: Gura, Bae 2: Irys So the syllables can get pretty low for HoloEN names, but half of them have 6 or more syllables. I think Amelia is mostly right on this.

@GenghisClaus

6 ай бұрын

7: Mocosanta Abyssgard

@edmg7

6 ай бұрын

@@GenghisClaus?

@zimonzieclown1633

6 ай бұрын

@@edmg7 What, you haven't heard of Mocosanta? Seems like someone's gonna make the naughty list next year...

@nemasisdemarini8339

6 ай бұрын

Ina's would be 6. Since both Ninomae and Ina'nis have 3 syllables.

@NeFlorence

6 ай бұрын

@@nemasisdemarini8339 Lol no It's Ni-no-ma-e I-na-nis You dont pronounce Ninomae as Ni-no-may

And then there's Gura, whose full name is only 3 syllables just to make it easier for our genius of a shark.

@DBT1007

6 ай бұрын

It actually 4. You dont read "Gawr" as one syllable.. 😅. It need a bit of 2 syllables. "gaw-r". There is a need to say the "r". It's like saying "ga-ur gu-ra". So maybe 3,5 syllables? Idk 😅.

@KenEvangelista

6 ай бұрын

​@@DBT1007 its only three. syllables are just an uninterrupted segment of speech forming an indicative unit of measure for words. in this case, you can read the "Gawr" literally as it is in English way. Its like reading the word "Jowl". You don't have to separate them to "Jo-ul", or "Girl" to "Ge-url", or something. Unless, you are not using the English language, of course. lol

@jasonebi7308

6 ай бұрын

​@@KenEvangelistait's just 2 syllables when ame says it.

When it comes to long names, I always like Hyakumantenbara Salome.

@bmo3778

6 ай бұрын

fun fact: Salome is a slang for g@ng b@ng in my country. but, specifically in the city where I once lived, Salome is a food, some type of tapioca meatball😂

@tallesrodrigues5994

6 ай бұрын

​@@bmo3778I wonder if this slang has something to do with the legend of the Jewish princess Salome...

@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger

6 ай бұрын

Maybe I need a name change lmao

FYI, the longest syllables in the whole Hololive is Iofi with 21 syllables. A-i-ra-ni-i-o = 6 + fifteen = 21 🤣🤣🤣

@DBT1007

6 ай бұрын

Fif-teen

@Rizalpahlevi21

6 ай бұрын

​@@DBT1007 U miss the joke, 6 + fifteen= 21

@asukaknightmare8904

6 ай бұрын

@@Rizalpahlevi21 Even while understanding the joke its wrong. It's Ai-ra-ni.

@Rizalpahlevi21

6 ай бұрын

@@asukaknightmare8904 for english viewer they may think Ai as 1 syllable, may read as Ey-ra-ni, but for Indonesia tounge, that A and I read as 2 individual syllable, may read as A-I-Ra-Ni, thats how she said her name.. just like how she said iofifteen, its not io-fif- that i and o read as 2 individual syllable, i-o-fif most of the time she meme it a bit, i-yo-pi, iyopi, or just yopi..

@overgreed.

5 ай бұрын

​@@Rizalpahlevi21 "ai" on "airani" is diphthong and it's 1 syllable, but "io" on "iofifteen" isn't diphthong so it makes 2 syllables. the simple mean of syllable is how you say the word. are u say "airani" with "aa-ii-ra-ni" or "ai-ra-ni"? i think on ur mind "a-i-ra-ni" sounds "ay-yi-ra-ni", right? that's not how syllable work.

its on moments like these that i remember that ame is short for amelia i dont think i had ever heard someone calling her amelia its either ame or watson in guras case

What a coincidence. My name is also Jugemu-jugemu Gokōnosurikire Kaijarisuigyo-no Suigyōmatsu Unraimatsu Fūraimatsu Kūnerutokoroni-sumutokoro Yaburakōjino-burakōji Paipopaipo-paiponoshūringan Shūringanno-gūrindai Gūrindaino-ponpokopīno-ponpokonāno Chōkyūmeino-chōsuke.

That's names in general

@metalsonic8888

6 ай бұрын

Right? Like I only really know English names, but names with four or five syllables are way, way less common than 3. And people with names that long almost always use nicknames instead. Like maybe you know a Maximillian or Alexandria, but you probably know them as Max or Alex

Amelia Watson still has the only real normal English name in hololive.

@andrewli6606

6 ай бұрын

Irys is technically a normally name.

@ZGryphon

6 ай бұрын

"Nerissa Ravencroft" isn't _that_ weird. I mean, Ravencroft is a real, albeit uncommon, English surname.

@azurerider812

6 ай бұрын

And Shiori, and Nerissa. The only actual EN names in EN. ID only has Mooner, Anya, Kaela. JP surprisingly has one. The one and only queen of belly dancing. AkiRose!

@NecromancyForKids

6 ай бұрын

Those other names exist in English speaking countries, but Amelia is the only somewhat common one.

@ginbei711

6 ай бұрын

​@@azurerider812Shiori is japanese word for bookmark

meanwhile bijou 😂

And fun fact: Inanis in Latin means Void

@Nachtflut

6 ай бұрын

And Ninomae is japanese for "Before 2" written as ー (1), so basically a pun.

@HenshinFanatic

6 ай бұрын

We've met Ina'nis but where's Ima'nis? Hint: estuans interius ira vehementi

The lower the syllables the easier it is to remember. Its pretty common when it comes to name branding

if written in japanese, Iofi is the longest with a total of 13 syllables. Edit: a Japanese user below explained that it's only counted as 10.

@Justakatto

6 ай бұрын

wha-

@MichaelRandonLam

6 ай бұрын

La+ be like, did u just forget my full name

@Ludecil

6 ай бұрын

No matter how I look at it, I'm only getting 10 max. A-i-ra-ni I-o-fi-fu-tee-nu

@LARAUJO_0

6 ай бұрын

@@MichaelRandonLam Ra-pu-ra-su Daa-ku-ne-ssu (8, or 4-6 with reduced "u"s)

@vergilthealphaandomega8189

6 ай бұрын

@@Ludecil If you do it in katakana you get アイラニ・イオフィフティーン Edit: I'm a fool who cannot count

There's some kind of magic in 2-syllable names i guess

Another weird thing I noticed is the inconsistency with the naming. You have some girls with western name-surname pattern like Amelia Watson, Nerissa Ravencroft and Shiori Novella, but then more often than not it's the eastern surname-name pattern like Takanashi Kiara, Hakos Baelz and Koseki Bijou.

@skuld8985

6 ай бұрын

They might get to pick their names, I think I remember Calli saying she picked Calliope cuz it was cool but she didn't know which which pronunciation was right lol

@rustedwyvern

6 ай бұрын

Not that weird considering they had themes for each group and character designs, and the talents have input as well. Risu recently talked about how her name could’ve been “Arisu/Alice” but she ended up going with Risu.

@zimonzieclown1633

6 ай бұрын

...but Ame's channel name is Watson Amelia, not Amelia Watson.

@functionatthejunction

6 ай бұрын

@@skuld8985 Calli knew which pronunciation was correct. She used to even correct people about it, but she stopped once it became apparent so many Japanese bros did not pronounce it correctly and she didnt want to hurt their feelings. Which is lame af but hey $$$.

@functionatthejunction

6 ай бұрын

@@rustedwyvern Dang missed a good chance for nabbing the "Alice" name.

My guess is that it's to make the names easy to remember. It's said that dogs can remember their names if they're 2 syllables, 3 at most. So it is possible that we're treated as dogs that need short, easy to remember names. But it's not just Holo. Niji, Vshojo, even all the indies that I can think of do it.

@braveagentg

6 ай бұрын

So, no point in naming our pets Bobby Corwen then, right?

@agsiar

6 ай бұрын

@@braveagentg i'm not an expert on the subject but, according to "what I heard", yes, it is unlikely that your dog will remember that name. Having said that, please do your own research. And if you find something convincing that contradicts what I said, please share it 🙂

@DaftBagels

6 ай бұрын

Not about remembering, it’s easier to say. Imagine them referring to each other in videos if they used their full names

@HenshinFanatic

6 ай бұрын

Props to anyone who's a mad enough lad to use "Jugemu Jugemu Gokō-no Surikire Kaijarisuigyo-no Suigyōmatsu Unraimatsu Fūraimatsu Kuunerutokoro-ni Sumutokoro Yaburakōji-no Burakōji Paipopaipo Paipo-no Shūringan Shūringan-no Gūrindai Gūrindai-no Ponpokopii-no Ponpokonā-no Chōkyūmei-no Chōsuke" as their VTuber name.

From a visibility standpoint, the only thing I could think of is that names with 2 or 3 syllables are easier to remember and thus harder for viewers to forget. The same goes for Holostars members.

To be fair most real-life English names in general have about 2-3 syllables each. I'll say first names are 1-3 syllables and last names are 2-4 syllables.

Can say from experience, picking names that sound nice, as well as carrying a specific meaning, is a hard task; at least for me, since that's what I struggle the most when I'm creating characters, places, spells, items, etc etc Requires research, patience and a ton of try and error, but it's all worth it once you understand how to do it right; still a lot to learn tho

The one's with the longest names I could think of is are just the Myth members : Takanashi Kiara, Calliope Mori and Amelia Watson. But no one talks about the shortest names: Gawr Gura and Hakos Baelz.

@roricaplaza

6 ай бұрын

....Irys

@budiisnadi

6 ай бұрын

Dude, IRyS! if it's JP, then AZKi. If it's staff, then A-chan. Literally just one letter.

@SpoonHurler

6 ай бұрын

​@budiisnadi *_A_*

@zimonzieclown1633

6 ай бұрын

@@budiisnadiWell, technically A-chan's full name is Yujin A (which literally translates to "Friend A" btw).

@khoonkitlim5963

6 ай бұрын

I forgor IRyS. Whoops! Sorry guys! And talking about names both IRyS and AZKi typed so special, my keypad prediction keeps glitching.

Short and sweet, easy to remember.

I think they do it on purpose so the audience gives the talent a shorter nickname and feels more friendly with them. Pretty smart.

KOSEKI BIJOU

"I was wondering if Nerissa has 4 syllables because it has two Ss..." ...Can somebody decipher this breed of Ame logic?

@ManusiaKagakRusuh

6 ай бұрын

Maybe someone pronounce it "Ne Ri Sy Sa" ? ...

I really do miss her

Somewhere out there, the yellow ostrich Tanakisha Karia exists

@azurerider812

6 ай бұрын

Yet another alter timeline

Oh Nyo, she knows, she is gonna be pursued by management XDD

ame got the most syllables since you can adjust it anyway you want ameeeeeeeeeeeeeee-e-e-e-e-e-e

Didn’t sana have the longest name?

@megamcee

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, I was really surprised when they called her Sanananananananana BATMAAAAAN

@RoamingSimp

6 ай бұрын

@@megamceehere your like, you just made my day

@Driahva

6 ай бұрын

Next EN is going to introduce Jugemu Jugemu Goko no Surikire Kaijarisuigyo no Suigyomatsu Unraimatsu Furaimatsu Ku Neru Tokoro ni Suni Tokoro Yabura Koji no Bura Koji Paipo-paipo Paipo no Shuringan Shuringan no Gurindai Gurindai no Ponpokopi no Ponpokona no Chokyumei no Chosuke

@ArcheTelos

6 ай бұрын

@@Driahva That's already Ina's full name

@Driahva

6 ай бұрын

@@ArcheTelos what a coincidence! My name is also Jugemu Jugemu Goko no Surikire Kaijarisuigyo no Suigyomatsu Unraimatsu Furaimatsu Ku Neru Tokoro ni Suni Tokoro Yabura Koji no Bura Koji Paipo-paipo Paipo no Shuringan Shuringan no Gurindai Gurindai no Ponpokopi no Ponpokona no Chokyumei no Chosuke

cute ame!

So do the lengths of names also tie in with each members heights? hmm...

Imagine a vtuber whose name was Dionisus Nebuchadnezzar

@ZGryphon

6 ай бұрын

"Hey what up, it's ya boi Dionysius Nebuchadnezzar..."

Wow!!

3 syllable names are a common choice because they're more likely to be "iconic" and have fewer imitators but also not be so long that they're cumbersome. They also "force" shortening into nicknames, which is a charm point for a talent.

I just noticed that applies to all my American friends

And there’s Gooba

@NeFlorence

6 ай бұрын

More like Irys lol

@MrMarnel

6 ай бұрын

You mean Goobidiba?

I mean, that's just most names in general...

I mean ... most people try to have names under 4 syllables XD

Betting on lottery

sasuga detective

What's that classic anime scene of a guy saying his name to his opponent but it's like 3 sentences long and the opponent 1 ups him

She doesn't even think of her own name, A-me-li-a which has four.

It's not like JP or ID have crazy long names either. Shishiro Botan is 5 syllables total. Same with Minato Aqua. Watame has the same amount of overall syllables as Kiara.

So, if we're going by Japanese phonetics, Ame is actually tied with Ina for the longest name in Myth, which is 8 syllables. I found that pretty funny. But Nerissa is leading easily over all of EN with a whopping 12 syllables.

@ZGryphon

6 ай бұрын

"Ravencroft" must be a helluva tongue twister for native Japanese-speakers. A lot of those phonemes just don't exist in the Japanese syllabary at all.

@user-rx3vm8ym7j

6 ай бұрын

「アメリア・ワトソン」 「にのまえ・いなにす」 「ネリッサ・レイヴンクロフト」

@budiisnadi

6 ай бұрын

@@user-rx3vm8ym7j NeRiTsuSa ReIBeUnKuRoFuTo. Is that right?

@hibilbo4755

6 ай бұрын

This is a bit pedantic but Ame's name in Japanese is 7 syllables long and 8 mora long because the ソン in ワトソン is only one syllable, similarly Nerissa's name in Japanese is 9 syllables long because ッサ, レイ, and ヴェン are each only one syllable long Technically speaking a syllable is a vowel sound with or without surrounding consonants that make part or the whole of a word, whereas a mora in Japanese is more like a unit of sound, so each kana character would be one more long (including っ) and combination sounds like りゅ or フィ would also be one (I think, I'm not an expert lol) and that means that something like ソン in ワトソン is two mora but only one syllable Anyway thanks for coming to my ted talk

Like DOA's/Ninja Gaiden's girls. There's just a few with more than 3 syllables.

Long names are less marketable, duh.

1 being pronounced Ninomae(before two) is the farthest fetched name I've ever seen in my life

it's called marketing 😂

That's true for all holomembers, also notice how all of them have at least one part of their name to be in Japanese, I bet its part for how easy it becomes to pronounce and market

And then theres "Irys"

アメよ、グンバをつれてきてくれ😂

Funny thing about Calli, if you pronounce her name the Greek way "Call-yo-pi," it's just three syllables.

@MrMarnel

6 ай бұрын

Nitpicking, the second L goes in the second syllable but yeah.

and then theres gawr

And there's no one in Promise with the given name first, like Calli, Ame, Nerissa and Shiori.

@mtallmen184

6 ай бұрын

Technically IRyS is first, even if it's also last

Isn't that true of most names? Usually no more than 4 syllables?

Technically mumei has the shortest writen name possible due to the nature of her name itself. Nanashi mumei= nameless no name. Her name can be written/not writen at all by leaving it blank and it would still be correct lol. N/A is a good option too lol.

And then there’s Gawr Gura, with three syllables to her entire name.

@ManusiaKagakRusuh

6 ай бұрын

Hakoz Baelz as well ...

I can never remember if their names are written in Japanese order or English order

@OniGanon

6 ай бұрын

All of EN are officially written in Japanese order except Nerissa and Shiori.

@Gruncival

6 ай бұрын

I believe Fuwawa and Mococo also have Abyssgard after their respective names-the only HoloAdvent in Japanese order is Koseki Bijou.

gawr gombiGambaGoombusGoombsterGoomba gura yep 4 sounds about right

The only thing I noticed is that their names are easy to pronounce in Japanese. Some of them has straight up Japanese first name.

Aleister Crowley famously picked his name because it follows the specific rhythmic pattern it has. 1-2-3 1-2 He claimed that all powerful people in the world took this schema to identify themselves, so when he chose his own name he made sure it fit.

Ninomae Ina'nis, Gawr Gura, Amelia--

Her own name is four syllables lol

Ever had the name Steve before?

I wonder if any of the Holo gals ended up with the thing where the nickname becomes longer than their actual name. I can't think of any.

@evandaengonzalezordonez3559

6 ай бұрын

Gura to goomba

@anewfuture

6 ай бұрын

I don't know if this counts, but most people call Aki Akirose, combing part of her last name.

my name is jeff

Well, to be fair, most English words are either monosyllables or disyllables.

Most syllables in HoloEN is a tie between Ina and Kiara. Edit: autocorrect, go drunk, you’re home.

Meanwhile "Gawr Gura"

Isn't that just names in general? Extra long names would be unnatural.

I know some royalties have more syllables in their names than the entire Latin Alphabet and other than those that work with them, NOBODY else even remembers their full names. The purpose of names is that it could EASILY identify somebody. Making long complicated names is just a way to gatekeep people from knowing it.

Sachi is pretty short. Only 2 syllables

Why would this be weird? Look at the US president for the last 60 years and all are only 2-4 syllables (not counting middle names) except Obama. There are not many people named long names like Pekora Francois Lu Velorite...

Her own name is 4 syllables

don't tell them about nijisanji's Elu

What about Gawr Gura? That's only 1 and 2 syllables.

IRyS.

10 points from the detective for mispronouncing "Calliope".

@Texaboose

6 ай бұрын

But... she pronounced it correctly. Just going off how Calli pronounces it at the start of [Q]

@functionatthejunction

6 ай бұрын

@@Texaboose She mispronounces now and claims "both are correct" because didnt want alienate fans. in her debut stream she pronounces it correctly. I believe she talks about giving up on correcting people on her first Trash Taste appearances, but I could be wrong.

@Texaboose

6 ай бұрын

@@functionatthejunction Ah, ok. It's been a while since I've watched that TT video so can't remember the details, apart from cringing as she still had debut voice 😅

@functionatthejunction

6 ай бұрын

@@Texaboose Yeah double checked myself by watching her debut. That voice makes me want to punch myself in the sac.

@T33K3SS3LCH3N

6 ай бұрын

​@@functionatthejunction it's also not strange at all to have multiple versions of your name for different regions. It's only a few decades since western nationals stopped to straight up translate their names, and people still do minor adjustments like adapting their pronunciation a bit.

It's Ka rio pe