welp, amd dropped the price to 269... So its a good deal now.

8 GB for $299... unless the 7600 won't match toe to toe with a 6700 XT (which it should since we are talking about a next gen leap), $299 will be a hard pass.

@BlackJesus8463

Жыл бұрын

It's an 8GB 6700.

@laszlozsurka8991

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackJesus8463 Crappy price given how a 6700 TX can be bought at $299 and that has 12 GB.

@BlackJesus8463

Жыл бұрын

@@laszlozsurka8991 forealz

@user-od8xs8sf6i

Жыл бұрын

you must not justify what you think how it should be, you have to take account the inflation and also including the new AI accelrator, you must not forget those factors

@laszlozsurka8991

Жыл бұрын

@@user-od8xs8sf6i It's still a bad value though. The 7600 should have at least 10 GB

The cheapest 6600 is for $199 on NewEgg and should offer just slithly lower performance. I can’t see how this new card could win against AMD’s own cards from last gen.

@djchotus1

Жыл бұрын

I don't think this will age well. It'll be much faster

@blahorgaslisk7763

Жыл бұрын

There is a difference between the RX 6600 and the 6600XT. Some claim the later is about 15% faster, some want to say it's more than 20%. I think it's safe to assume about 10%... So that should be kept in mind when looking at prices. The difference between the 6600XT and the 6650XT is a lot smaller, as something like 3% to 4% in Dying Light 2. (the difference between the 6600 and 6650XT is 17% in the same game)

@HardwareAccent

Жыл бұрын

@@djchotus1 I hope you are right, but from what I've heard, this new 7600 should be similar in performance to the 6600XT, which starts from $260 on NewEgg. The 6700 starts from $280, and the 6700XT starts from $320. AMD's last-generation GPUs offer insanely good value that will be very hard to beat.

@wawaweewa9159

Жыл бұрын

50% less for maybe 20-×5% less perf, still capable at 1440p with twekaing

@BootSequence

Жыл бұрын

I think the performance difference between a 6600 (non XT ) and 7600 will be a lot bigger than you expect. Then again, at 199, its a deal. But remember, Encoder is better and RT performance + AI cores could sway some people.

$300 is still a miss for this card. $250-275 would be ideal to make some real noise for an 8gb card. $320 for a 16Gb version would be on point.

@BlackJesus8463

Жыл бұрын

It's going to lose to the 10GB 6700 in performance and price. It's DOA!

@user-od8xs8sf6i

Жыл бұрын

you must not justify what you think how it should be, you have to take account the inflation and also including the new AI accelrator, you must not forget those factors

This needs to be a $250 GPU if they want to sell it (For

@coni7051

Жыл бұрын

200$ actually

Guess it'll be yet another generation spent waiting while holding onto an aging 1060

@BlackJesus8463

Жыл бұрын

What are you waiting for?

@zeldazackman

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackJesus8463 For the most part? I'm waiting for a card that doesn't have a gimped bus or Vram size at a $300 price point range, as the RX 7600 is going to still have a 128 bit bus width compared to the 1060's 192 bit as in real world testing when I tried an RX 6600 for a little bit last year from my cousin I didn't really notice any difference between the two cards save for about 18 extra frames in deeprock

@BlackJesus8463

Жыл бұрын

@@zeldazackman a 6700 would probably double your frames and you can get one for $280 right now.

@zeldazackman

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackJesus8463 Aye I've considered it for a bit especially with how long I've been holding out for an upgrade during the mining craze of 2020+, but for now I'm going to see if I can't stretch this 1060's life out for another generation

@BlackJesus8463

Жыл бұрын

@@zeldazackman The longer you wait the better it gets.

With 12+ GB this would be exiting, but 8GB = no buy, if price is above 200$.

@teardowndan5364

Жыл бұрын

Putting 8GB of VRAM on a GPU under $200 likely isn't economically viable now that a ~200sqmm die costs about $50 instead of the ~$20 it did back in the RX580's days. The profit margin at $200/8GB is mostly gone unless you make a smaller, slower, cheaper GPU die. I doubt something even slower than an RX6600 just to bring 8GB below $200 in an economically viable manner would be particularly popular.

@stylie473joker5

Жыл бұрын

I don't think they'll do 12gb on a 128 bit memory bus

@teardowndan5364

Жыл бұрын

@@stylie473joker5 There are 24Gbits DDR5 chips, there will almost certainly be 24Gbits GDDRx at some point in the future. That would make 12GB on 128bits possible.

@stylie473joker5

Жыл бұрын

@@teardowndan5364 Interesting, but yeah i'm on Rx 6600 and there's no way i'm upgrading to an 8gb Gpu cause it ain't future proof Vram wise for sure, the minimum i'd go for for 1080p high settings is 10gb and 12gb is preferred

I love your concise news videos.

I'm interested in RX 7700xt, 7800, 7800XT.

@BootSequence

Жыл бұрын

same here

It should be $250 as based on the comments on MLID, there's a lot of people willing to buy a 8gb 6700 XT at that price and AMD could use it as a good low end option to gain market share.

hardware Canucks you guys have a nice post process video editing and lightning setup :)

@BootSequence

Жыл бұрын

That's all just me ! Thanks for the compliment!

@MuzdokOfficial

Жыл бұрын

@@BootSequence i know but you know what i mean bro. It's consistent with them :)

@BootSequence

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@MuzdokOfficial

Жыл бұрын

@@BootSequence yezzir mon gars

I need twice the frames, twice the memory and half the price when I upgrade from this vega64

@BlackJesus8463

Жыл бұрын

6800XT is $499 on Newegg right now so you should be happy with double frames and double VRAM because they will sell out before they get that low.

@xnotx2

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackJesus8463 Even if used in a couple of years. Might even get 32GB and cheap 4k monitor. I'm on 1440p right now.

@BlackJesus8463

Жыл бұрын

@@xnotx2 Ok just remember it's not the resolution that makes 4K great. There's more color depth, high dynamic range and variable refresh rate that's really what everyone loves about it. If you're just in it for the pixels you're wasting money on a cheap monitor.

what was the squeak at the outro

1:36 frame generation & text generation

i can play well in 1080p with a rtx 2080. what's the point to replace?

The 7600 is DoA. It's basically an 8gb 6700 (non XT version) with a crippled bus. Considering 12GB 6700 XTs can be bought for the same price while offering better performance I don't know what AMD is thinking considering there's no secret sauce feature that makes the 7000 series special.

I am not much into AAA gaming, I have just little info from what guys in online gaming use. Some have still 1060, one guy had RX 285 I guess(pretty powerhungry old stuff, but he plays casually so he doesn't care almost 300W), some got 1650s 1y ago for casual play too, one has 3070 and a last one, who upgraded got overpriced 1660s just 3mo ago. I got 6650xt 5mo ago for around 280USD (+local VAT). It was best price I could get at that moment. Upgrade of 1050 was phenomenal for me, could max details at 1440p and have still good fps (World of warships). If I upgrade gpu anytime then, it would be something with 2x raster performance to run 4K flawlessly in that game, probably around 4070/ti but its not a must, if I would get such capable display, then I would know there is decently cheap esport fast gpu available(current VRAM use just 4GB+ at 1440p, 6,5+ at 4K, probably would not go for more than 12GB gpu). But given the pricing trends, it looks my upgrade.. again just 5y later, so hopefully in 2027, if Nvidia marketing Moore's Law won't slow down even further. But with some 27-28 inch 4K 144Hz monitors slowly going down in price, who knows what crazy enthusiast-budget gamer gonna buy. I guess it would be Rdna4 or Blackwell for me 1 gen skip is usually wise, for getting good performance boost at similar price point.

Cosidering its fast as a 6950xt its a good price what is bad is the vram but i guess price is reflecting that otherwise it would be 500 ish

Imagine paying more and getting the same VRAM seven years later. - RX 480 8GB owner.

@BootSequence

Жыл бұрын

to be fair, its more than twice the throughput.

Not putting 10gb on this thing was a mistake from amd

While it would be nice to see more VRAM, the TDP on the 7600 is really low.. 120w. This is waaaay lower than the 6700.

still waiting for the 7700 xt

i think amd and nvidia are just gathering data on the use case scenarios of their tech on mobile phones, testing the waters

Or pay $20 more and get a 6700XT. 7600 can't win at $299 because it's going to be an 8GB 6700 and you can get a new Sapphire Pulse 6700 for $280 right now.

@BootSequence

Жыл бұрын

could depend on what the person wants to do. The encoder is better, and the ray tracing performance are likely to sway a few people. I didnt consider this while writing the video, but at this point, the A770 seems like a great choice too.

@BlackJesus8463

Жыл бұрын

@@BootSequence Nobody cares enough about those features to sacrifice VRAM, gaming performance and pay more for doing it. 6700XT is cheaper than an A770 right now so I don't know what you were thinking recommending another more expensive 8GB card. Hardware Unboxed took a poll and 90% of gamers don't care about raytracing and you know streamers make up a very small percentage of GPU buyers. Also if you watch MLIDs new video in the last segment he says Navi33 is going to be relatively weaker RT than N31/32.

Rx 7600 will be pointless gpu if it costs over 250$ because you can get rx 6700 10gb for 280$ and performance of thus two will be similar or something lower from rx 7600

@kapler8550

Жыл бұрын

Yup. And the 6700 wouldnt be discounted to 280 if it was selling well at higher prices. So the 7600 💯 doa at 300.

@lelouchabrilvelda1794

Жыл бұрын

​@@kapler8550 The good things about Rx7000 is they have AV1 and good at Davinci resolve.

@aaronjenkins2135

Жыл бұрын

The rdna3 will make the 7600 perform better on higher settings tho an xt version with 12gb would be a good move by amd. But expect them to pull an amd instead.

@ronalcasid3844

Жыл бұрын

That’s the point they need to get rid of all 6600 stock.

@kapler8550

Жыл бұрын

@@aaronjenkins2135 it will only perform like a 6700xt. Rdna3 really isnt that much better than rdna2. It not faster enough imo to justify the lower ram capacity. But yeah amd will stuff this one too. They seem to be trying really hard not to be relevant

Reviews are in for the RTX 4060 Ti and it's basically a big, steaming turd when you look past features like DLSS3, AI, AV1 encoding and quite impressive performance-per-watt ratios. Essentially Nvidia just re-released the RTX 3060 Ti. But the RX 7600 will not be competing with the RTX 4060 Ti, but with the RTX 4060, which is slated to be released in July. What I'm actually interested in is the RX 7600 XT, which I hope will be priced at ~350 USD and perform on-par with the RX 6700, but offer new features and improved power consumption.

Sorry its DoA just get a 6700XT 12GB your sorted far more than this card because of port PC ports and shit optimisation and VRAM limit issues

this should be a under 250 dollar card. u can get 6700 10gb for 280. it just doesnt make sense to buy it at $299

i doubt it will be an attractive offer, nvidia also is racing to bring the 16gb... 8gb is just meh, in any price class

@ofon2000

Жыл бұрын

you don't understand the hardware then...128 bit bus with 16 gb vram is pretty shit.

Wha-wha-wha--??? AMD isnt going to shoot themselves in the dick with the 7600? Awe man :( Now what am i going to do with all this popcorn i bought ?

Card Better Be More than a 8g Max = Most Games Now Demand 12g Min. on ` Most Recent Game Releases ` !

128 bit memory bus, nvidia and amd must be thinking consumers are stupid, selling low end hardware for midrange prices.

Moisture 🎉

6700xt is about same price, (probably) better performance (its aimed for 2k), better VRam, and wine aged drivers

@user-wq9mw2xz3j

Жыл бұрын

2nd hand yes, but not in store, at least in Europe. 6700xt is almost 100€ more expensive than the rx 7600 will be (now, after AMD adjusted price) However 6700xt is a better card yes. Especially for 1440p/higher res

Yes yes yes, let's goooooooo wooooooohhh

299 isn't too bad for 8gb

@BlackJesus8463

Жыл бұрын

It's $h!t.

Shouldnt be more than 250....

I'll keep my wallet shut a little longer for the 7800xt/7700xt announcements. Otherwise I'd by used current gen.

8gb vram? Junk!

I think $299 is way out of range for a card with just 8 gb of VRAM in 2023 and considering AMD still is the weaker brand in terms of maximum performance, power efficiency, advanced technologies (ray tracing, DLSS, frame generation, streaming encoding, etc) and most importantly after all: *SALES* AMD has *NOT* won enough market share whatsoever in order to *barely compete* with Ngreedia, they should really make true efforts to win customers to their brand. $250 for an 8gb version and maybe $280/$300 for a 16gb version would make things more interesting

@BootSequence

Жыл бұрын

Nvidia released the 3070 with 8gb before the mining craze began and it was 500$. While I do understand that 8GB is bad, I don't think its terrible for a 1080p card.

@Hombremaniac

Жыл бұрын

@@BootSequence Lowerish end GPU can still live with 8GB of VRAM, but price is super improtant obviously. Those 250 USD would really seem as a better option for 7600. More so, when Nvidia´s GPUs can benefit greatly from DLSS, which in this low performance segment is a big bonus.

this will be good. the 6600 is faster 95% of the time than the 5700xt the 7600 should be equal or more in performance than the 6700 xt

@BootSequence

Жыл бұрын

I agree, if they can bring back that price point, it will be good. Thought it might perform a little below the 6700 XT.

@tigerbalm666

Жыл бұрын

5700XT is 15% faster than 6600

@KingSteven77

Жыл бұрын

What are you smoking? The 5700XT is faster 95% of the time than the 6600

@KingSteven77

Жыл бұрын

@@tigerbalm666 Exactly

@Mr11ESSE111

Жыл бұрын

It will be slower then 6700xt for 15-20% probably slower then even rx 6700 which are 280$ so rx 7600 have all chances to be failure at 299$ or more

Mdr, mettre un gpu nvidia dans un cpu mediatek... Ou comment mettre une 4090 avec un fx 8350 mdr😂😂😂

GUYS I CAN GET A RTX 2080 TI IN THE UK FOR £350 AND WILL KILL THE RTX 4060 O MAYBE RTX 4050

12gb should be minimum

@Matthew-vm7qi

Жыл бұрын

How about we don't give game developers our hard-earned money until they take optimization seriously?

@djchotus1

Жыл бұрын

But why. I don't think you know what you need. If you're buying low end. Why. You won't need it. If you're buying high end. You got cash, so you'll be fine. But also. There is more to gpus than ram size.

@riufq

Жыл бұрын

@@djchotus1 you don't know what i need

@jankratochvil9779

Жыл бұрын

No, I want better graphics with new games.. its definitively stupid idea to make situation more difficult for everyone in the market for the sake of saving 10 bucks on manufacturing of gaming gpus and suffer with consequences for years from day one. There is no reason to be arogant it solves nithing

@Humanaut.

Жыл бұрын

@@Matthew-vm7qi No. Wrong take. 8gig has been around since 2016 in 200$ cards. 7, almost 8 years now. Game engines are getting more effects, games are looking better and using higher textures etc. And you really have the audacity to pin it on the devs? Smh.

JUST GAT A RX 6950XT FOR £600 £630 TI WILL KILL THIS 4050 0PS 4060 HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

The ONE thing holding me back from AMD gpus is driver support. Thats it. Nvidia is just way better supporting their old gpus. Otherwise I would be happy to support amd.

@miyagiryota9238

Жыл бұрын

Old news

@daw7563

Жыл бұрын

@@miyagiryota9238 for you maybe

@Raivo_K

Жыл бұрын

How is Nvidia better at supporting their old GPU's?. They even refused to bing ReBAR support to 20 series. Then refused to bring DLSS to 16 and older series etc. DLSS 3 is restricted to 40 series.

@laszlozsurka8991

Жыл бұрын

Do you have an AMD GPU or are you just parroting what people say on the Internet?

@daw7563

Жыл бұрын

@@Raivo_K What I mean is that really old Nvidia gpu still get updated drivers for the latest OS.while AMD can get into "legacy drivers" pretty fast and next OS version youré out of luck.

if the price in Europe is correct than its dead on arivel. you can get a 6700xt for 370€ on mindfactory. withe 16gb of vram and brobably higher performance.

@user-wq9mw2xz3j

Жыл бұрын

it is going to be 300€ Not great, but decent for low end.